In a message dated 9/13/0 2:10:22 PM, normed@theofficenet.com wrote: <<And might I add, the ancestors are there, listen, they are calling you. Tari>> Tari, you're absolutely right sister, they are still here, their spirits are all over this land. They are the keepers of the land & they are here for us, they are our spirit guides, if we'd only give them a chance to assist us. As Tari said, "Listen." Listening is the key & patience is your tool to all means you seek. blessings, Turtle/