In a message dated 9/12/00 12:47:23 PM Central Daylight Time, Tsalagi02@aol.com writes: << In a message dated 9/12/0 2:55:53 AM, REDSKI9136@aol.com wrote: <<You do not have to have German ancestry to be Black Dutch. The real Dutch are from Holland. And many German folks, believe that the Dutch are in fact , from their own country.But the truth of the matter is, there was no Germany yet, when the Dutch arrived in America. During the war in Germany, many countries were swallowed up by Germany. When the Germans started their killing of Jews in Germany, there were many other country's peoples killed as well. The poles from Poland and many more.That is not to say that many Black Dutch are not German.>> Your absolutely right Bright Star! We had this topic/issue long ago on the BD list. In my eyes, this all started here in the USA. People may have come here and mixed, but it did not start in other lands and land here, it happened in AMERICA. Indigenous bloods are mixed in with those who claim the term "BLACK DUTCH", INDIGENOUS ones from this land now known as the United States Of America............ What do you all think? Turtle/ >> My thoughts aer with you I fell that it was started hear in ths land to protect the people what I would like to know is was it in a meeting or was it like the underground rail road or was it a pass word does any one have any thoughts on this ? May your Waters Run Gentle, With Love Care And Concern, Alece, Little Hawk,