Little Hawk and other list members, I have been using a phrase used from my childhood by my kinfolks when I asked about my bloodline. I am afraid that some of the younger generation has picked up on it. Now I understand that this term is offencive to some folks and it certainly was never ment to be when I said it. The term Heinz pup was only in reference to 57 different kinds which was refering to the fact that we had many different blood lines. I will not use that term again on any list. Again, I am sorry if this has offende anyone : - ( Grandma