Hi, Chatters: Don't forget to read the chat transcripts if you missed them or didn't get to stay the whole time. Monday's chat will be up later today (sorry, I got sick!): http://huntsville.about.com/blrecords.htm Here's what on for today: Tuesday Chats: http://huntsville.about.com/mpchat.htm (subtract 1 hr. for Central; 2 hrs. for Mt.; 3 hrs. for Pacific) 8 pm Eastern--CEMETERIES chat -- how to research in the cemetery, what to take, how to read the inscriptions, plus specific cemetery resources BTW--if you're interested, you can attend a chat on Tuesday that is NOT genealogy related--on HERBS--a professional herbalist will be sharing information and answering questions, RainBear from Alternatives from Nature. It starts at 9 pm Eastern time--if you're not interested, please remember that it's NOT genealogy related, so wait until Wednesday to come back to the chat room. Wednesday's Chat Schedule: http://huntsville.about.com/mpchat.htm Subtract 1 hr. for Central time; 2 hrs. for Mt., 3 hrs. for Pacific time) 1-3 pm Eastern Time--WESTERN/PACIFIC STATES genealogy....... 7 pm Eastern Time--NORTH CAROLINA genealogy...... 8 pm Eastern Time--CANADA genealogy....... 9-11 pm Eastern--MORGAN Surname chat...... Tuesday is a good day to set aside for ready and posting in the forum. Be sure and get ALL your surnames posted on the forum--and check to read what others have listed (over 470 messages now!)....We've had 27 new members REGISTER for the forum in the last 2 1/2 days....345 guest visitors and 81 member visits...so don't miss your chance to find someone who knows something about your most wanted ancestor! Post their names on the forum so the rest of us can see--don't keep your SURNAMES a secret! http://about.delphi.com/ab-huntsville If you know of anyone who might be interested in joining us in the chat room--please have them write to me for the instructions and schedule--or send me their address and I'll be happy to send it to them. If you're receiving these updates & reminders and don't want to, just let me know and I'll remove your name. Here's the ladder and we're all holding it for you--now climb over your brick wall! Jean Brandau About Guide to Huntsville AL http://huntsville.about.com email: huntsville.guide@about.com forum: http://forums.about.com/ab-huntsville chat: http://huntsville.about.com/mpchat.htm

--part1_2f.ab1f7ab.26f8c552_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 9/18/00 10:44:18 PM Central Daylight UPDATE FROM DEAH << Thank you all my friends for your prayers. Things have settled down now. The fire is not completely out, and will likely burn for several days back in that timber. They set a backfire east of our house, then went in to the southwest and set one. They ended up not having to set one right around the house, so we didn't have to move vehicles and animals. Boy, and I'm telling you, to move all my animals would have been some kind of job! We are still keeping one eye out just to be safe, but things are looking much better right now. Love to you all, Deah >> May your Waters Run Gentle, With Love Care And Concern, Alece, Little Hawk, --part1_2f.ab1f7ab.26f8c552_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <GRANNYS-NA-PANTRY-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-zb04.mx.aol.com (rly-zb04.mail.aol.com [172.31.41.4]) by air-zb02.mail.aol.com (v75_b4.3) with ESMTP; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 23:44:18 -0400 Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by rly-zb04.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 23:44:08 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e8J3dvv01406; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 20:39:57 -0700 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 20:39:57 -0700 X-Original-Sender: funyfarm@hit.net Mon Sep 18 20:39:57 2000 Message-ID: <01e801c021fb$e5422880$70a7fcce@oemcomputer> Reply-To: "Downburst" <funyfarm@horizon.hit.net> From: "Downburst" <funyfarm@horizon.hit.net> Old-To: "Granny's NA Pantry" <GRANNYS-NA-PANTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 22:38:50 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Subject: [GRANNYS-NA-PANTRY] Thank You Resent-Message-ID: <DiTv4B.A.yV.NAux5@lists5.rootsweb.com> To: GRANNYS-NA-PANTRY-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: GRANNYS-NA-PANTRY-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <GRANNYS-NA-PANTRY-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/1671 X-Loop: GRANNYS-NA-PANTRY-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: GRANNYS-NA-PANTRY-L-request@rootsweb.com Thank you all my friends for your prayers. Things have settled down now. The fire is not completely out, and will likely burn for several days back in that timber. They set a backfire east of our house, then went in to the southwest and set one. They ended up not having to set one right around the house, so we didn't have to move vehicles and animals. Boy, and I'm telling you, to move all my animals would have been some kind of job! We are still keeping one eye out just to be safe, but things are looking much better right now. Love to you all, Deah ==== GRANNYS-NA-PANTRY Mailing List ==== Interested in the term BLACK DUTCH? If so, just go the RootsWeb.com website below, to find out more about this great mystery! http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic/BLACK-DUTCH-AMERICA.html --part1_2f.ab1f7ab.26f8c552_boundary--

Subj: [GRANNYS-NA-PANTRY] Update Date: 9/18/00 8:59:02 PM Central Daylight Time From: funyfarm@horizon.hit.net (Downburst) Reply-to: funyfarm@horizon.hit.net (Downburst) To: GRANNYS-NA-PANTRY-L@rootsweb.com The fire continues to burn. I took water for the firefighters. Checked on our neighbors. They have had to move all vehicles away from their house. They are now starting a backfire to try to stop it on this side. It has burned through part of the timber and canyons. A backfire is now burning near our house, they want to start one around our house. I have so many animals I worry for. Just popped in to get a drink and update. Am waiting for the fire trucks. Love, Deah May your Waters Run Gentle, With Love Care And Concern, Alece, Little Hawk,

A Navajo shepherd was herding his flocks in a remote piece of land when suddenly a brand new Jeep Cherokee advanced out of a dust cloud towards him. The driver, a young man in a Brioni suit, Gucci shoes, Ray Ban sunglasses and a YSL tie leaned out of the window and asked the shepherd: "If I tell you exactly how many sheep you have in your flock, will you give me one?" The Indian shepherd looks at the yuppie, then at his peacefully grazing flock and calmly answers "sure!" The yuppie parked the car, whipped out his notebook, connected it to a cell-phone, surfed to a NASA page on the Internet where he called up a GPS [Global Positioning Satellite] navigation system, scanned the area, opened up a database and 60 Excel spreadsheets with complex formulas. Finally he printed out a 150 page report on his hi-tech miniaturized printer, turned round to the shepherd and said: "you have exactly 497 sheep!" Unexcitedly, the Navajo said, "You're right. Go ahead and take one of the sheep." He watched the young man select an animal and bundle it in his Cherokee. Then the Indian shepherd said: "If I can tell you exactly what your business is, will you give me my sheep back?" "Okay. Why not?" answered the young man. "You are a consultant" says the Navajo. "You're correct!" shouted the yuppie, "How did you guess that?" "Easy" answered the shepherd. "You turn up here although nobody called you. You want to be paid for the answer to a question I already knew. And you don't know squat about MY business because you took my durn dog."

TEXAS, LOUISIANA, AND KANSAS, 1763-1802 To view this map, go to http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/reference/maps/freeimages.asp?ImageID=2 44.

MILTON, MASSACHUSETTS DIRECTORY, 1890 Located in eastern Massachusetts, the city of Milton was formed in 1662 and is part of Norfolk County. This database is a transcription of a city directory originally published in 1890. In addition to providing the residents' names, it provides their addresses and occupational information. The database includes more than 1,100 names, mostly heads of household. Source Information: Ancestry.com. "Milton, Massachusetts Directory, 1890." [database online] Provo, UT: Ancestry.com, 2000. Original Data: "Milton, MA, 1890." Milton, MA: Sampson, Murdock & Co., 1890. To search this database, go to http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/5047.htm. This database is also included in the 1890 Census Reconstruction Project and can be searched through its main page at http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/census/1890sub/main.htm. MASSACHUSETTS TOWN VITAL RECORDS (Update adding Bradford) Originally published by the New England Historic Genealogical Society, the Massachusetts Town Vital Records Collection is one of the most valuable tools available in finding ancestors who lived in the colony and state prior to 1850. This update adds Bradford to records from the towns of Abington, Acton, Andover, Ashburnham, Ashfield, Bellingham, Billerica, Brewster, Brimfield, Brockton, Burlington, Carver, Chelmsford, Concord, Dartmouth, Dover, Dracut, Dudley, Essex, Framingham, Gill, Granville, Heath, Holden, Holliston, Hummards, Ipswich, Lawrence, Lynn, Medford, Medway, Middlefield, New Ashford, Palmer, Rutland, Shirley, Shrewsbury, Sturbridge, Taunton, Templeton, Tisbury, Waltham, Washington, Westford, West Springfield, and Windsor. It provides the names of about 250,000 persons. Source Information: Ancestry.com. "Massachusetts Town Vital Records." [database online] Provo, UT: Ancestry.com, 1998-. Original Data: "Vital Records of Bradford Massachusetts to the Year 1850." Boston: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1904 To search this database, go to http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/vital/massrecords/main.htm. BERKS COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA SERVICE ROSTER, 1917-18 Derived from a publication "containing the names of those who served their Nation in time of Great Need," this database lists the name, status, and camp (town) for 1,240 servicemen in Berks County, Pennsylvania, which is located in the eastern part of the state. Of the 1,240 who served (who were between the ages if 18 and 31), 28 were killed in action and nine died in training camps. Source Information: Cuccinello, Karen, comp. "Berks County, Pennsylvania Service Roster 1917-18." Provo, UT: Ancestry.com, 2000. Original Data: Weidner, J Morgan, comp. "The Patriotic Order Sons of the Berks County, in the World War, 1917-1918" (Berks County, PA), Washington Camp #230, Esterly, PA, Reading Eagle Press, 542 Penn Street, Reading PA, 1920. To search this database, go to http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/5065.htm. MALDEN TOWNSHIP, ONTARIO CENSUS, 1901 This database contains more than 1,400 entries of residents in the census subdistrict of Malden (J) in the census district of Essex South (#60) in 1901. It lists each person’s full name, relationship to the head of the household, full date of birth, and birthplace, as well as the year of immigration to Canada (if not Canadian by birth). The database also includes the National Archives film number, division number, page, and family number to help researchers obtain a copy of the actual record, if desired. Source Information: Hewitt, Doneen, comp. "Malden Township, Essex South District, Ontario, Canada Census, 1901." [database online] Provo, UT: Ancestry.com, 2000-. Original Data: Government of Canada. "1901 Canada National Census." Canada: Canada National Archives, 1901. To search this database, go to http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/5067.htm. BUSINESS WIRE NAME INDEX, 1999 Source Information: Bell and Howell Information and Learning Company. "Business Wire Name Index, 1999." [database online] Provo, UT: Ancestry.com, 2000. Original Data: Electronic newspaper newsfeed service of the Bell and Howell Information and Learning Company. To search this database, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/4344.htm. MILTON, MASSACHUSETTS DIRECTORY, 1890 Located in eastern Massachusetts, the city of Milton was formed in 1662 and is part of Norfolk County. This database is a transcription of a city directory originally published in 1890. In addition to providing the residents' names, it provides their addresses and occupational information. The database includes more than 1,100 names, mostly heads of household. Source Information: Ancestry.com. "Milton, Massachusetts Directory, 1890." [database online] Provo, UT: Ancestry.com, 2000. Original Data: "Milton, MA, 1890." Milton, MA: Sampson, Murdock & Co., 1890. To search this database, go to http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/5047.htm. This database is also included in the 1890 Census Reconstruction Project and can be searched through its main page at http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/census/1890sub/main.htm. MASSACHUSETTS TOWN VITAL RECORDS (Update adding Bradford) Originally published by the New England Historic Genealogical Society, the Massachusetts Town Vital Records Collection is one of the most valuable tools available in finding ancestors who lived in the colony and state prior to 1850. This update adds Bradford to records from the towns of Abington, Acton, Andover, Ashburnham, Ashfield, Bellingham, Billerica, Brewster, Brimfield, Brockton, Burlington, Carver, Chelmsford, Concord, Dartmouth, Dover, Dracut, Dudley, Essex, Framingham, Gill, Granville, Heath, Holden, Holliston, Hummards, Ipswich, Lawrence, Lynn, Medford, Medway, Middlefield, New Ashford, Palmer, Rutland, Shirley, Shrewsbury, Sturbridge, Taunton, Templeton, Tisbury, Waltham, Washington, Westford, West Springfield, and Windsor. It provides the names of about 250,000 persons. Source Information: Ancestry.com. "Massachusetts Town Vital Records." [database online] Provo, UT: Ancestry.com, 1998-. Original Data: "Vital Records of Bradford Massachusetts to the Year 1850." Boston: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1904 To search this database, go to http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/vital/massrecords/main.htm. BERKS COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA SERVICE ROSTER, 1917-18 Derived from a publication "containing the names of those who served their Nation in time of Great Need," this database lists the name, status, and camp (town) for 1,240 servicemen in Berks County, Pennsylvania, which is located in the eastern part of the state. Of the 1,240 who served (who were between the ages if 18 and 31), 28 were killed in action and nine died in training camps. Source Information: Cuccinello, Karen, comp. "Berks County, Pennsylvania Service Roster 1917-18." Provo, UT: Ancestry.com, 2000. Original Data: Weidner, J Morgan, comp. "The Patriotic Order Sons of the Berks County, in the World War, 1917-1918" (Berks County, PA), Washington Camp #230, Esterly, PA, Reading Eagle Press, 542 Penn Street, Reading PA, 1920. To search this database, go to http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/5065.htm. MALDEN TOWNSHIP, ONTARIO CENSUS, 1901 This database contains more than 1,400 entries of residents in the census subdistrict of Malden (J) in the census district of Essex South (#60) in 1901. It lists each person’s full name, relationship to the head of the household, full date of birth, and birthplace, as well as the year of immigration to Canada (if not Canadian by birth). The database also includes the National Archives film number, division number, page, and family number to help researchers obtain a copy of the actual record, if desired. Source Information: Hewitt, Doneen, comp. "Malden Township, Essex South District, Ontario, Canada Census, 1901." [database online] Provo, UT: Ancestry.com, 2000-. Original Data: Government of Canada. "1901 Canada National Census." Canada: Canada National Archives, 1901. To search this database, go to http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/5067.htm. BUSINESS WIRE NAME INDEX, 1999 Source Information: Bell and Howell Information and Learning Company. "Business Wire Name Index, 1999." [database online] Provo, UT: Ancestry.com, 2000. Original Data: Electronic newspaper newsfeed service of the Bell and Howell Information and Learning Company. To search this database, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/4344.htm.

In a message dated 9/18/0 11:21:14 PM, HAWKL35 wrote: <<Prayers are on the way >> Thank you so much Alece~ May Creator shine brightly upon you always~! Sali (Turtle)

From: Robert "Many Hawks" Foy (Lakota, born Pine Ridge) 501-337-0770, asaria@ipa.net A gathering of the Caddo on their home land is happening in Malvern AR on Sept 23, 2000. According to their historian Stacy Half Moon this will be the first time in over 106 yrs. There will be an all night Pow Wow. When asked why it has been so long, Shirley Howery said "We weren't invited" Many Hawks, backed by the local Civitan group, invited them. There is a feature article in today's Arkansas Democrat Gazette. See: http://www.ardemgaz.com/search_today/ark/b9xindians17.html This is part of an ongoing mission to find a resting place for many Caddo bones, starting with public awareness. There is also a desire to create a local reservation (currently all Caddo are exiled to Oklahoma) and cultural center. === [from Lona. Thanks!] http://www.ardemgaz.com/today/ark/B9xindians17.html The Caddo to powwow in Malvern RODNEY BOWERS ARKANSAS DEMOCRAT-GAZETTE MALVERN -- It took nearly two centuries, but the Caddo Indians are finally returning home -- at least for a visit. Shirley Howery of the Caddo Tribe of Binger, Okla., said 75 members, "if not more," plan to return to Malvern for a powwow from Saturday to Sept. 24 at the Hot Spring County Fairgrounds off U.S. 270. "We've never been invited," she said of the reason the group has waited so long to return to western Arkansas. "We were run off from there. We had to be invited back." Robert Many Hawks owns Many Hawks Trading Co. in nearby Rockport. A half Lakota Sioux who grew up on a reservation at Pine Ridge, S.D., he said he recently spoke to the Malvern Civitan Club and historical society and mentioned his desire to have the Caddo return for a powwow in a couple of years. "They said, 'Could we do it this year?' " Many Hawks said. "They gave me two weeks to put it together." Many Hawks said he wanted the Caddo to return because "this is their home" and he had grown tired of reading and hearing about other groups, to the exclusion of his people. And, he said, "I just want people to wake up to the fact that Native Americans are out here, too." The Caddo were a loose confederation of Indian groups joined by a common language and way of life, according to a history compiled by the Museum of the Red River in Idabel, Okla. Their distinctive cultural traits have been identified at sites dating to about A.D. 900, when they occupied an area that includes present-day western Arkansas, eastern Oklahoma, northeast Texas and northwest Louisiana. By the year 1000 the Caddo were settled farmers living in small groups, probably made up of extended families, according to the museum history. Their house clusters were scattered along low terraces bordering watercourses and their dwellings were constructed of grass or reed thatch over a framework of sticks and poles, surrounded by patches of corn, beans, squash and other vegetables. They supplemented their diet by hunting a variety of game, including birds and deer. Their population continued to grow and by the time of European contact in 1542 with during Hernando De Soto's expedition there was estimated to have been close to 20,000. After the United States purchased the Louisiana Territory in 1803, the Caddo became victims of U.S. politics and the interests of Spanish Mexico and the Texas independence movement, according to museum literature. Many Hawks, however, blames the American president at the time. "They were taken out of here by Andy Jackson," he said. After moving to Louisiana, the Caddo relocated to the Brazos River area of Texas, the museum stated in its history of the tribe. However, in 1837, one year after Texas won its independence, they were sent to live with distant relations (the Wichita) in Oklahoma Indian Territory. Today, about 4,000 Caddo still reside in western Oklahoma between Oklahoma City and Fort Sill. Many Hawks said the tribe was first settled on 40 acres, noting, "There wasn't much left of Oklahoma." Today, they share about 160 acres with two other tribes. Howery said she and the other tribe members are excited about returning to Arkansas, noting that they have been returning for several years to Louisiana. The group plans to perform traditional dances throughout the night and into the next morning, concluding with the sunrise dance. She said dancers will wear authentic costumes, and the public will be invited to participate. Festivities begin at noon with arts and crafts displays. Dancing starts at 6 p.m. Many Hawks said admission will be charged: $25 per family, or $10 for adults and $3 for children younger than 13. Proceeds will go to the Civitan Club. He, too, said he's excited about the return of the Caddo. "It's like a homecoming," he said. "Next year I'd like to get it for three or four days." --- This article was published on Sunday, September 17, 2000 [In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit research and educational purposes only.]

From: Vicki Lockard <Garnet1654@aol.com> Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 14:07:20 EDT Subject: Protecting US Native Languages Protecting US Native Languages Native Americans are invited to join Kidlink's Who-Am-I? educational program in their languages. Out of 176 living languages listed, most are endangered, and spoken by less than 2 million American Indians, Eskimos, and Aleuts. The list includes well known names like Apache, Blackfoot, Cherokee, Comanche, Cree, Inuktitut, Mohawk, and Navaho. Jointly with Canku Ota (Many Paths) (http://www.turtletrack.org), Kidlink (http://kidlink.org) proposes its eight-month, multilingual Who-Am-I? as a vehicle to protect United States' indigenous heritage. Key is the program's record of motivating children and youth to read and write in their own language. "To indigenous communities, it is a means to increase their youth's knowledge and appreciation of their area, people, language, culture, the way the society works, history," says Odd de Presno, Kidlink's executive director. "It is also a means to communicate their culture to outsiders using their students as agents, supported by teachers." Kidlink is a non-profit grassroots organization providing free educational services to children and youth through the secondary school. Our work is supported by 79 public mailing lists for conferencing, a private network for Real-Time Interactions (like chats), an online art exhibition site, and some 500 volunteers living throughout the world. Most volunteers are teachers and parents. Since the start 10 years ago, over 175,000 kids from 137 countries on all continents have participated in our activities. Who-Am-I? challenges students to collect and document elements of the communities' culture that may be about to get lost. Their works may be used as learning material in each community's language. Currently, the program runs in parallel in English, Spanish, Portuguese, Norwegian, Chinese, Danish, French, German, Icelandic, Italian, and Saami. Romanian and Catalan are scheduled to be added soon. To teachers, it is a means to classroom instruction within writing, research, social studies, history, geography, foreign languages, economics, mathematics, science, the arts, current awareness, as well as personal development, Internet networking skills, information and communications technology skills. When students have a purpose (to get friends) and an audience, they want to read and write. They demand knowledge to realize their purpose. Thus, it gives otherwise "boring" classroom tasks meaning for students. For More Information visit these sites: Kidlink http://www.kidlink.org Canku Ota http://www.turtletrack.org The Invitation http://www.kidlink.org/kie/america/usa/index.html Article about Canku Ota, an e-zine for and about Native America http://www.digitaldividenetwork.org/vickie.adp Odd de Presno http://www.kidlink.org/english/general/press/presno.html Garnet1654@aol.com Vicki Lockard Editor "CankuOta" <A HREF="http://www.turtletrack.org">CankuOta</A> http://www.turtletrack.org

In a message dated 9/18/00 6:05:47 PM Central Daylight Time, Tsalagi02@aol.com writes: << A/C! Please send prayers out for us, we are looking at a BLACK OUT soon...........Prayers needed >> Prayers are on the way May your Waters Run Gentle, With Love Care And Concern, Alece, Little Hawk,

Alece, It's okay! Great quote anyway!~ thanks for sharing...... Our energy supply is being threatened in CA right now, we are experiencing a heatwave and Silicon Valley computer high techs are using up all the juice , plus the heatwave is causing so many to use fans & A/C! Please send prayers out for us, we are looking at a BLACK OUT soon...........Prayers needed badly....Everyones prayers are appreciated! Luvya All....... blessings, Sali (Turtle)

"The bridges you cross before you come to them are over rivers that aren't there." --Gene Brown "The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams." Eleanor Roosevelt "I would sort out all the arguments and see which belonged to fear and which to creativeness. Other things being equal, I would make the decision which had the largest number of creative reasons on its side." --Katharine Butler Hathaway

Good to have you home Deah! Thanks for informing us of what happened, glad your ok! blessings, Sali (Turtle)

<http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20000914/us/massacre_memorial_1.html> Thursday September 14 6:07 PM ET Senator Releases Massacre Letters By MATT KELLEY, Associated Press Writer - WASHINGTON (AP) - Nearly 136 years after Colorado Militia troops ambushed and massacred more than 150 American Indians on the banks of Sand Creek, a senator related to a survivor of the attack is sponsoring a plan to create a memorial at the site. At a hearing on the proposal Thursday, Sen. Ben Nighthorse Campbell read from two recently discovered letters written by soldiers who objected to the 1864 atrocity. One, Capt. Silas Soule, detailed the gruesome scene where troops slaughtered Cheyenne and Arapaho women, children and elderly men. ``It was hard to see little children on their knees have their brains beat out by men professing to be civilized,'' wrote Soule, who was murdered in Denver shortly after testifying at a congressional inquiry. Campbell, a Northern Cheyenne whose great-grandfather's second wife survived the attack, said the descriptions brought tears to his eyes. The Colorado Republican is backing a bill to create a national historic site on more than 12,000 acres of ``killing fields'' on the plains of southeastern Colorado. ``Can you imagine cutting open a pregnant woman and taking out the baby and then scalping the baby? My God!'' Campbell said. ``It's the worst atrocity I've ever heard of.'' The National Park Service supports Campbell's proposal to create the Sand Creek historic site, which would help protect the area from artifact poachers and allow Cheyenne and Arapaho tribal members to create a burial ground there for the remains of victims. Rancher Bill Dawson, on whose land much of the killing ground lies, and other area landowners are willing to sell their property to create the memorial. Campbell said he guessed the bill had a ''50-50'' chance of passing Congress before lawmakers adjourn for the year, which is scheduled for early October. Steve Brady, president of the Northern Cheyenne Sand Creek Descendants, said the historic site would commemorate ``the unspeakable horrors of ethnic cleansing.'' The massacre began at dawn on Nov. 29, 1864, when nearly 1,000 men under the command of Col. John M. Chivington surrounded hundreds of Indians camped on the banks of the creek. Soule and other witnesses said Chivington wanted to kill Indians and did not care that this group was peaceful and had been promised by other U.S. troops that they would be left alone if they flew an American flag. The troops opened fire on the mostly unarmed Indians with guns and howitzers, then chased down many who tried to flee. The soldiers mutilated the bodies, taking away scalps, ears, fingers and genitals as trophies. Although the congressional probe sparked by Soule and Lt. Joe Cramer condemned the massacre, those involved were never punished and the reparations promised in a treaty were never paid. Chivington has a town in the area named after him. Brady and other Cheyenne and Arapaho leaders said they are still trying to get remains of Sand Creek victims returned to tribes. The Colorado Historical Society has at least one scalp from a Sand Creek victim, and the University of Nebraska at Lincoln has the cranium of another, they said. Having a final resting place for those remains is important to the descendants of massacre victims, said Joe Big Medicine, who works to reclaim remains for the Southern Cheyenne tribe. ``It's important for us to have it remembered by the American people,'' Big Medicine said. ``It's important to remember what they did to our people. They killed our people.'' --- On the Net: Some of the testimony at the congressional inquiry is reprinted at: <http://www.pbs.org/weta/thewest/wpages/wpgs640/sandcrk.htm> [In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit research and educational purposes only.]

For more information on the controversial telescope project, please visit: <http://users.skynet.be/kola/mtgrah.htm> Online petition against the Mt. Graham telescopes at: <http://kola-hq.hypermart.net/actmtg.htm> San Carlos Apache Moccasin, Globe AZ Wed. Sep 13, 2000 MT. GRAHAM RUN DRAWS FROM AROUND THE WORLD The Mt. Graham Sacred Run has become a yearly event, drawing people from across the United States and around the world to participate and bring their blessings to the mountain. This year's run added nine runners who covered the entire distance from San Carlos to Mt. Graham in three days. The purpose was to gather the Sacred water which surfaces at the very top of Mt. Graham. This holy water was used by Apache ancestors and recognized by other tribes within the Southwest. It was obtained for illness, ceremonies and blessings. Apaches as well as others were forbidden to continue their religious practices between 1850 and 1954. The runners were very honored and blessed to continue the religious practice without fear of hostility which they featured during the conquest of the white Americans. At 4:30 a.m. on Saturday, Aug. 12, the Sacred Run started. The run crossed the railroad tracks, went through San Carlos, Peridot, and then toward Bylas. This year's race had runners from Cibecue, San Carlos, Bylas, Tucson, Oklahoma, Phoenix, North Carolina, Pasqua Yaqui, France, Italy and Nicaragua. The runners covered 100 miles in 13 hours, reaching the summit at 5:30 p.m. The run coordinator, Ernest Victor, stated, "This run was different from other runs. Just seeing them in the rain was moving spiritually. No one gave up. The more it rained, they kept getting up and running. When they reache the end and stood in the circle, you could see the glow on everyone's face. They weren't feeling any pain from the long distance run." The Pasqua Yaqui group blessed the mountain and the runners that evening with their traditional deer dancne. Ernest Victor reflected, "To see Pasqua Yaqui was spiritual, letting their mentor go into the spirit world was something to wonder. They released his spirit into the spirit world. It was like telling him that down here we will keep working." He added, "Every year, for as long as it takes, we will bring more young kids. They will experience it. Apaches for Cultural Preservation did a good job of bringing everyone together." Other coordinators such as Carlos Nosie, Ray Apodaca, Lamont Hoffman, Caty Carmen of Pasqua Yaqui and Anthony Hoffman of Cibecue all agreed, "You have to be here to witness and believe in what each of us as well as our children have experienced." Wendsler Nosie, organizer of the three-day run recalled, "My daughter asked why all these people pass by in their cars without looking, with a straight face like we aren't here, why?" "I told her, You see the young child in the back of the car turn and look? They are asking their parents, why are those people running? The parents have to say that Mt. Graham is holy and they used to live here." Apaches for Cultural Preservation is thankful for Mr. Raleigh Thompson, who participated by praying, singing and told the people of the blessed gift God placed on Mt. Graham. His moving speech brought tears to the eyes of all in attendance. Elder Elvera Nosie spoke about the history and their religious ways, as children surrounded her. Wendsler Nosie concluded, "I would like to thank everyone who was involved from the cooks to the support groups. The spirit of Mt. Graham has touched many people throughout the world and it will take all of us through prayer to remove the telescopes from the Holy Mountain. We are facing a struggle that involves millions and millions of dollars with investors seeking prestige and disregard the rights of our religious ways. "There must be a balance between spirituality and science. If we fail as a person, we face the same consequences as those who are destroying Mother Earth," he added. [In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit research and educational purposes only.]

[source: NativeNews; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 17:31:53 -0400] From: "Elsbeth Vocat" <evocat@nextron.ch> September 11, 2000 Dr. Andrés Pastrana Arango President of the Republic of Colombia Casa de Nariño Bogotá D.C. Dear Mr. President: We are profoundly concerned about recent news we have received from the U'wa community in Cubará (Boyacá, Colombia). We are aware that the anti-riot police arrived in the area on September 7. According to the U'wa , the police stated that they have an order direct from the Colombian Presidency to evict all civilians present in a 500 meter radius surrounding the exploratory well site of Gibraltar. According to the U'wa, a member of the anti-riot police said: "There must be no civilians inside a 500 meter radius of the well." Neither indigenous nor campesino leaders have yet received a written judicial or administrative eviction order. However, according to what the anti-riot police communicated to the U'wa, the purpose of the eviction is to bring in Occidental Petroleum's machinery from Saravena to the drill site. We believe that this eviction would constitute an open violation of the recent ruling of the honorable Superior Court of Norte de Santander, which authorized Occidental Petroleum's use of only the land previously set aside for such activity in a judicial order Additionally, we have learned that on September 11, the executive board of Incora created a Petroleum Reserve Zone around the the Gibaltar well site. This constitutes a new attempt to disregard the rights of the U'wa people to their traditional territory and to their communal ownership of farms to which they have legitimate, written, and duly registered titles. Considering: that Article 63 of the Colombian Constitution states that communal territory of ethnic groups is inalienable; that the land slated for petroleum exploration forms part of the immemorial patrimony of the U'wa people and of their traditional territory; and that the U'wa people were not consulted with regarding the work that is currently being carried out by Occidental Petroleum; We implore you to take action to protect the rights of the U'wa and to take action to prevent a turn of events like that which occurred on June 25th and 26th, on February 11th, and on January 25th of this year, when actions of the public forces against the U'wa resulted in the drownings of three indigenous children and caused multiple injuries to indigenous people and campesinos. We believe that the conflict between the U'wa and Occidental Petroleum must be resolved through nonviolent means, especially through consultation under the terms of Convention 169 of the International Labour Organization, which was signed and ratified by Colombia and through consideration of the terms of Article 330 and Articles 63 and 93 of the Colombian Constitution. Under no circumstances can we individuals and organizations actively defending human rights accept continued violence against the U'wa and against the people who are in solidarity with them. Sincerely: === [source: NativeNews; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 13:32:26 -0400] From: "Elsbeth Vocat" <evocat@nextron.ch> Solidarity for UWA people Please send letters, fax or email to: Dr. ANDRÉS PASTRANA, President of the Republic of Colombia, Palace of Nariño, Bogotá. Fax 00571 334 19 40. +57 1 5616580. mailto:pastrana@presidencia.gov.co -=<+>=- Tell them you support the U'was in their struggle to maintain the integrity of their ancestral lands against big oil compnay invasion and resource exploitation.. for background Search: http://ishgooda.nativeweb.org/natnews2.htm Search U'wa Ish

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Hello friends, I just got home from an appointment in a nearby town. As I left this town I could see great columns of smoke on the horizon. This town is a little over 30 miles from my home. The farther I drove, the more worried I got, and the heavier my foot got on the gas pedal. As I got closer I could see that the fire must not be far from where I live. There is a great grass fire burning out of control. It is so dry here, everything is like a tenderbox. This fire is only a couple of miles from us as the crow flies. It is now getting into an area of timber and ravines, which makes it very difficult to fight. If it stays on present course and continues to burn northward, it should pass to our east. Please say a prayer for those out fighting this fire, and also a prayer that we will receive some much needed rain. Wado Deah May your Waters Run Gentle, With Love Care And Concern, Alece, Little Hawk,

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Looking for information on the family of John Nicholson,Sr. and John Nicholson,Jr.Both were ministers in the German Baptist Brethern Church.John ,Sr. was born about 1799 and John,Jr was born 15 May 1824,Fayette County,Pa.,and he died in La Verne,Ca..John,Jr. married Charlotte Louise Pullen on 1Apr 1849. Any information on these families would be appreciated. Bright Star This is the first time I have ever heard of German Baptist Have you ever heard of it, ??? May your Waters Run Gentle, With Love Care And Concern, Alece, Little Hawk,