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WEST COAST OF AFRICA, 1832 To view this map, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/reference/maps/freeimages.asp?ImageID=7 16

MIDDLEBORO, MASSACHUSETTS DIRECTORY, 1890 Located in southern Massachusetts, the city of Middleboro forms part of Plymouth County. This database is a transcription of a city directory originally published in 1890. In addition to providing the residents' names, it provides their addresses and occupational information. The database includes more than 3,100 names, mostly heads of household. Source Information: Ancestry.com. "Middleboro, Massachusetts Directories, 1890-92." [database online] Provo, UT: Ancestry.com, 2000. Original Data: "Middleboro, MA, 1890." Middleboro, MA: Sampson, Murdock & Co., 1890. To search this database, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/5043.htm This database is also included in the 1890 Census Reconstruction Project and can be searched through its main page at: http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/census/1890sub/main.htm PORTLAND, OREGON DEATHS, 1915-24 One of the principal cities of Oregon, Portland lies along the Columbia River in the western section of the state. This database is an index of people who died in the city between 1915 and 1924. Originally compiled by the Oregon State Vital Statistics Department, it contains the decedent's name, date of death, and death certificate number. Newly updated, it now contains the first two of three parts and provides the names of more than 8,000 persons. Source Information: Nelson, Jodi L., ed. "Portland Oregon Death Index, 1915-24, Part One." [database online] Orem, UT: Ancestry, Inc., 2000. Nelson, Jodi L., ed. "Portland Oregon Death Index, 1915-24, Part Two." [database online] Orem, UT: Ancestry, Inc., 2000. Original Data: Taken from a microfilm copy of "Oregon Death Index, Portland, 1915-1924, A-Z" at the Oregon State Archives in Salem, Reel #297, Film #5000001. The Oregon State Vital Statistics Department compiled the original death index. To search this database, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/4479.htm ESSEX TOWN AND PELEE ISLAND, ESSEX DISTRICT, ONTARIO, CANADA CENSUS 1901 This database contains more than 1,400 entries of residents in the census subdistrict of Essex Town (E) and more than 600 entries of residents in the census subdistrict of Pelee Island (L) in the census district of Essex South (#60) in 1901. It includes the following information for each person: full name, relationship to the head of the household, full date of birth, and birthplace, as well as the year of immigration to Canada (if not Canadian by birth). The database also includes the National Archives film number, division number, page, and family number to aid researchers in obtaining a copy of the actual record, if desired. Source Information: Hewitt, Doneen, comp. "Essex Town and Pelee Island, Essex District, Ontario, Canada Census, 1901." [database online] Provo, UT: Ancestry.com, 2000-. Original Data: Government of Canada. "1901 Canada National Census." Canada: Canada National Archives, 1901. To search this database, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/5035.htm BALTIMORE SUN (MD) OBITUARIES, 1998-99 Source Information: Bell and Howell Information and Learning Company. "Baltimore Sun (Maryland) Obituaries, 1998-99." [database online] Provo, UT: Ancestry.com, 2000. Original Data: Electronic newspaper newsfeed service of the Bell and Howell Information and Learning Company. To search this database, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/4058.htm

"Hold on; hold fast; hold out. Patience is genius." --Georges de Buffon "The worth of every conviction consists precisely in the steadfastness with which it is held." --Jane Addams "Life is worth being lived, but not worth being discussed all the time." --Isabelle Adfani

Grandmother I have never Known you to Offend Any one on any list that I am connected with however if you admit that you have then surly you are forgiven, your a sweetie, and would not hurt any one knowingly love always, May your Waters Run Gentle, With Love Care And Concern, Alece, Little Hawk,

Grandma Tsi Tsi, No need to apologize to me, I am not offended for I know your use of such things isn't to hurt or disrespect anyone here or anywheres for that fact of the matter. You are a beautiful enlightening humanbeing in my book & I'm quite sure in the many others whom know you or of you my Elisi (Grandma) Tsa la gi word......... vv (peace) Turtle/

Little Hawk and other list members, I have been using a phrase used from my childhood by my kinfolks when I asked about my bloodline. I am afraid that some of the younger generation has picked up on it. Now I understand that this term is offencive to some folks and it certainly was never ment to be when I said it. The term Heinz pup was only in reference to 57 different kinds which was refering to the fact that we had many different blood lines. I will not use that term again on any list. Again, I am sorry if this has offende anyone : - ( Grandma

I don't know how I got on the mailing list for BLACK-DUTCH-AMERICA. I certainly did not do it intentionally. PLEASE TAKE ME OFF THE LIST. Thanks, John Givens

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JACKSON, MICHIGAN DIRECTORIES, 1887-88, 1890 Located in southern Michigan, the city of Jackson is the county seat of Jackson County. This database is a transcription of city directories originally published in 1887, 1888, and 1890. In addition to providing the residents' names, it provides their addresses and occupational information. The database includes more than 35,400 names, mostly heads of household. Source Information: Ancestry.com. "Jackson, Michigan Directories, 1890-92." [database online] Provo, UT: Ancestry.com, 2000. Original Data: "Jackson, MI, 1887." Jackson, MI: J. E. Williams, 1887. "Jackson, MI, 1888." Jackson, MI: J. E. Williams, 1888. "Jackson, MI, 1890." Jackson, MI: J. E. Williams, 1890. To search this database, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/5042.htm This database is also included in the 1890 Census Reconstruction Project and can be searched through its main page at: http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/census/1890sub/main.htm INDIANA MARRIAGES, 1845-1920 (W.P.A.) The Indiana Marriage Index is one of the most complete collections of marriages created by the Works Progress Administration. The WPA began to index vital records county-by-county for the entire state, but the agency was abolished before the indexing was completed. This database indexes marriages for 71 of the counties. Taken from copies of the original works from the WPA, these records will prove useful for those seeking ancestors in Indiana. Source Information: Ancestry.com. "Indiana Marriage Records Index, 1845-1920." Provo, UT: Ancestry.com, 2000. Original Data: Works Progress Administration. "Index to Marriage Records." Indiana: Indiana Works Progress Administration, 1938-40. To search this database, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/5059.htm GOSFIELD TOWN, ESSEX DISTRICT, ONTARIO, CANADA CENSUS, 1901 Gosfield Township is in Essex County and was named after Gosfield, England. In 1887, the township was split into Gosfield North and Gosfield South. This database contains more than 2,400 entries of residents in the census subdistrict of Gosfield South (G) and more than 1,900 entries of residents in the census subdistrict of Gosfield North (F) in the census district of Essex South (#60) in 1901. It contains the following information for each person listed: full name, relationship to the head of the household, full date of birth, and birthplace, as well as the year of immigration to Canada (if not Canadian by birth). The database also includes the National Archives film number, division number, page number, and family number to help researchers obtain a copy of the actual record, if desired. Source Information: Hewitt, Doneen, comp. "Gosfield Town, Essex District, Ontario, Canada Census, 1901." [database online] Provo, UT: Ancestry.com, 2000-. Original Data: Government of Canada. "1901 Canada National Census." Canada: Canada National Archives, 1901. To search this database, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/5034.htm PRESS DEMOCRAT (SANTA ROSA, CA) OBITUARIES, 1998-99 Source Information: Bell and Howell Information and Learning Company. "Press Democrat (Santa Rosa, CA) Obituaries, 1998-99." [database online] Provo, UT: Ancestry.com, 2000. Original Data: Electronic newspaper newsfeed service of the Bell and Howell Information and Learning Company. To search this database, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/3823.htm

In a message dated 9/12/0 3:19:14 PM, normed@theofficenet.com wrote: <<"Yigaguu osaniyu adanvto nigohilvi nasquv utloyasdi nihi" May the Great Spirit's blessings always be with you. Thanks, Wado, Tari >> Thank you for subscribing to the list Tari! So nice to have you here. Your information has been officially archived!~ By listing your surnames and family info, you've made a difference. The odds are much better when we contribute our family lineage/information. blessings & vv o gi na li ! Wa do dohiya Turtle/

In a message dated 9/12/00 12:47:23 PM Central Daylight Time, Tsalagi02@aol.com writes: << In a message dated 9/12/0 2:55:53 AM, REDSKI9136@aol.com wrote: <<You do not have to have German ancestry to be Black Dutch. The real Dutch are from Holland. And many German folks, believe that the Dutch are in fact , from their own country.But the truth of the matter is, there was no Germany yet, when the Dutch arrived in America. During the war in Germany, many countries were swallowed up by Germany. When the Germans started their killing of Jews in Germany, there were many other country's peoples killed as well. The poles from Poland and many more.That is not to say that many Black Dutch are not German.>> Your absolutely right Bright Star! We had this topic/issue long ago on the BD list. In my eyes, this all started here in the USA. People may have come here and mixed, but it did not start in other lands and land here, it happened in AMERICA. Indigenous bloods are mixed in with those who claim the term "BLACK DUTCH", INDIGENOUS ones from this land now known as the United States Of America............ What do you all think? Turtle/ >> My thoughts aer with you I fell that it was started hear in ths land to protect the people what I would like to know is was it in a meeting or was it like the underground rail road or was it a pass word does any one have any thoughts on this ? May your Waters Run Gentle, With Love Care And Concern, Alece, Little Hawk,

Dear Chatters: Remember that we have a scaled down genealogy chat schedule on Tuesdays--only one night-time chat--but it's a popular one: CEMETERIES. Please don't come into the chat room after 9 pm Eastern; 8 pm Central looking for genealogy. We do a herbs chat and then a women's business owners chat later in the evening. You're welcome to come to the herbal chat at 9-10 pm Eastern if you like..... Tuesday Chats: http://huntsville.about.com/mpchat.htm (Subtract 1 hr. for Central time; 2 hrs. for Mt., 3 hrs. for Pacific time) 10-11 am Eastern--NATIVE AMERICAN...AFRICAN AMERICAN...MELUNGEON genealogy 1-3 pm Eastern--NEW ENGLAND/MID-ATLANTIC STATES genealogy 8-9 pm Eastern--CEMETERIES research & tips chat Make sure your family tree has sprouted on our forum--lots of ancestor "pickers" combing the site: http://forums.about.com/ab-huntsville If you need instructions, let me know! Jean Brandau About Guide to Huntsville AL http://huntsville.about.com email: huntsville.guide@about.com forum: http://forums.about.com/ab-huntsville chat: http://huntsville.about.com/mpchat.htm

Hi everyone, ROLL CALL is a wonderful idea! here goes mine: George Washington GUNTER Sr. - My GGGG Grandpa b abt 1800 - TN d abt 1850 - Greene Co. AR Sp: Elizabeth "Betsy" HUTCHINS - My GGGG Grandma b 19 Jul 1803/04 - GA m abt 1826 - Hatley, Monroe, MS d 18 Nov 1875 - Fannin Co. TX Wiley G. GUNTER - My GGG Grandpa b 12 Nov 1826 - Hatley, Monroe, MS d 1 Apr 1877 - Jacksboro, Jack, TX sp: Barbara "Barbary" GAGE - My GGG Grandma b 1835 - Greene Co. AR m 1856 d 30 Sept 1918 -Jacksboro, Jack, TX George Washington GUNTER - My GG Grandpa b Nov 1859 - Loss Creek Community, Jack, TX d 14 Jan 1930 - McCurtain Co. OK sp: Martha "Maggie" A. WOODS - My GG Grandma b Jun 1867 - Parker Co. TX m 11 Jul 1886 - Jacksboro, Jack, TX d. 31 Dec 1929 - Chico, Wise, TX Crowley Cleve GUNTER - My Grandpa b 22 Feb 1904 - Jacksboro, Jack, TX d 24 Feb 1980 - Taft, Kern, CA sp: Delphia PARSONS - My Grandma b. 6 Feb 1912 - Ringold (formerly Burwell) McCurtain, OK m 4 Oct 1929 - Slim, McCurtain, OK d 31 Mar 1985 - Paris, Lamar, TX Wilburn Paul GUNTER - My Father b 29 Dec 1937 - Ringold (formerly Burwell) McCurtain, OK d 11 Sept 1986 - OK My Mother's surnames: SPITERI, BONNICCI, GRECH <Island of MALTA> Carmelo Joseph SPITERI - Grandpa Born: 1902 Feb - MALTA Phillipa "Pina" BONNICCI - Grandma - Spelling of first name could have only 1 "L" Born: 1899 Apr - MALTA Grandfather's parents & so on, don't have. Grandmother's Mother was Rosa GRECH , don't know her maiden name.

Good reply Bright Star! Yes in deed WELCOME TO OUR FAMILY~ Curtis, We are all in this thing together brother~ Patience is the key to learning why & what.....It's been difficult for many of us , but we are learning~ We all shall make a difference for others to understand ........... Turtle/

In a message dated 9/12/0 2:55:53 AM, REDSKI9136@aol.com wrote: <<You do not have to have German ancestry to be Black Dutch. The real Dutch are from Holland. And many German folks, believe that the Dutch are in fact , from their own country.But the truth of the matter is, there was no Germany yet, when the Dutch arrived in America. During the war in Germany, many countries were swallowed up by Germany. When the Germans started their killing of Jews in Germany, there were many other country's peoples killed as well. The poles from Poland and many more.That is not to say that many Black Dutch are not German.>> Your absolutely right Bright Star! We had this topic/issue long ago on the BD list. In my eyes, this all started here in the USA. People may have come here and mixed, but it did not start in other lands and land here, it happened in AMERICA. Indigenous bloods are mixed in with those who claim the term "BLACK DUTCH", INDIGENOUS ones from this land now known as the United States Of America............ What do you all think? Turtle/

Great Post Curtis! I have to say I understand & agree with your points! Thank you for sharing and expressing your views. This is what many of us believe in. It's the close minded ones who lose Curtis, they don't want to accept or absorb the TRUTH of what really was. But some suffered these trials & tribulations and wish to forget them, so they choose not to discuss or express. I have to say I've experienced much when I asked older family members. It hurts them to speak about it or to even explain what happened to my grandparents and the ancestors who were forced off the lands due to the INDIAN RE-LOCATION ACTS. It's up to us the new generations to teach & express to those who wish to learn of their heritage & ancestry to do this! We will keep the TRUTH prevailing by passing the TRUTH onto each generation of children who come from this mystery called BLACK DUTCH or MELUNGEON and so on. We have a choice, We know the TRUTH, We can make a difference for our CHILDREN! Good job Curtis. You have a big heart & beautiful spirit brother, keep up the good work, it will pay off in the long run. blessings, Turtle/

Many have used this term, for it was passed on from ancestors to future generations irregardless if to our true ancestral identities. It's an option .......What do you feel comfortable with? I tell you I use the term and I have to go into an long explanation (people don't know what the heck I'm talking about) unless they lived in the south..hehehe I use the term, but have learned to say it was a term used for those mixed of color whether it be NA or AA or both with other races to avoid persecutions of the past. People find interest and usually want to learn more or are very intrigued with it. Let's sum this up to being a personal preference for those who come from the ancestrys of those folks who used this term. Just 1 turtle's opinion / view.....hehehe blessings, Turtle/

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