To J P Gilliver If every person had only one marriage, then I would put Marriage above Died. That would be easy. In BK6 I made the design decision to show one spouse at a time and one set of family events at a time. So I put the Marriage events at the bottom - for a few reasons. One reason is that back in BK 5 I had two separate grids. Each individual had a grid of events, and the marriage had a separate grid for the family events. To see how that looked in BK5, you can from the BK6 Edit screen pick from the top menu View, Family Edit. In BK6, when you click to show a different spouse, it shows the same Individual events for the person and only the Marriage events at the bottom change. The program keeps track of the Individual order of events and puts them in order from 1 to 5 or whatever. Then it keeps track of the Family events for each family (spouse) and puts those family events below the individual events. So Family events 1-3 go below the individual events. If you click the Spouse button, it shows the Spouse's events as the Individual events and those might be 1 to 8 and then it shows the same family events 1-3 below those. So no matter which person is showing, it knows where to put the Individual events and the Family events. If you want me to mix the Family events into the Indivual events, then I need a different system of keeping track, because the Family events will go into different places for each different spouse of the person. (The first marriage might be before the first occupation event, but the second marriage might be after the first occupation). So you would need to put the events in order for each different spouse. So instead of the current system where I keep track of the order of Indivual events for each person and the order of Family events for each family, I would need a different system to keep track of a different order of events for each family for each person. In other words the order of Family events can be different for the Husband and the Wife instead of the current system where the Family events are in the same place for the Husband and Wife. Then when you make a change, like you add an Occupation to a person, the program has to figure out if that Occupation goes before or after the Family events for each of the marriages of that person. In other words, when you add an Occupation, does that go before or after the first marriage? Before or after the second marriage? Before or after the third marriage? I probably would need to show ALL the marriages of the person on one large grid to keep it all correct. I would need to show all spouses and all marriages at the same time to keep the events in the correct order. So that is a very different system from what I have now. It would require a lot of changes and a lot of testing and because some people do not like change, so I would need to keep an option to either do it the current way or do it the new way. So you see, it is not a simple change that I can make. I realize that it bothers some people to have Married below Died on the Edit screen. Perhaps in some new version, I can find a way to change the order to make everyone happy. Remember, it does not Print the marraige after died on the printed reports, it is just for the Edit screen. John Steed ----- Original Message ----- From: "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG@soft255.demon.co.uk> To: <bk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 10:02 PM Subject: Re: [BK] Edit Page > In message <F9EDC203D55C4CF99B4FE44426644211@DavidHP>, David Youse > <dhyouse@comcast.net> writes: >>Is there a way to globally change the order of the “Event/Fact” >>fields as they appear on the Edit page? I would find it very helpful >>to be able to view several pages in succession with all the listings in >>the same order, to avoid having to search each page for what I’m >>looking for. I have over 11,000 persons so doing this one page at a >>time is not a viable option. > > I’d like the option for both the non-family and the family listings. > > Can I ask in the same vein for a revision of the "individual events must > precede family events" rule? I find it rather unnatural to have to show > > born > christened > died > buried > married > > rather than > > born > christened > married > died > buried > > I think I may have asked this before, or maybe was just thinking about > it, but – Is there a way to globally delete “Event/Fact”s that > have no entries? That is, the field was selected but there is no Date; > no in,at,etc; no Location/Description; no Note; no Source AND no Witness > entries. > > Yes, I'd like that too (-:! > > Also, John, is there a way to change the field name “Social Security > num” to just “SSN”? > > At a guess, there's a file with it in. I've just had a look, and on my > system there's a file english.bkw, where it is on line 2996. > [] > -- > J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf > > Easy reading is damned hard writing. -Nathaniel Hawthorne, writer > (1804-1864) > > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

In message <1861CF54D32B452AB2FA6E1DE2DA25F8@Dell4600>, John Steed <brothers_keeper@msn.com> writes: >To J P Gilliver > >If every person had only one marriage, then I would put Marriage above >Died. That would be easy. [detailed explanation snipped! Much appreciated.] >way or do it the new way. So you see, it is not a simple change that >I can make. > >I realize that it bothers some people to have Married below Died on the >Edit screen. Perhaps in some new version, I can find a way to change >the order to make everyone happy. (John Kirk for one, as well as me.) Perhaps an _option_ to list events by date. Though I realise that would only be a partial solution, because you'd need to sort out how events with a date _range_ fit in (do you take start date, end date, or mid-range?), and events with no date, and events with a partial date. (While I'm at it, can I repeat a request for another type of ranged event: at present we have "event occurred between date 1 and date 2", and "event lasted from date 1 to date 2". It's be useful to have "event included the period date 1 to date 2" - for example, resided, where you might know someone lived somewhere on two dates, but not that they were the start and end date of the residence. In fact that's _usually_ the case for my residence info., since it mostly comes from censuses.) > >Remember, it does not Print the marraige after died on the printed >reports, it is just for the Edit screen. I'd forgotten (or not realised) that. > >John Steed [] -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf "The people here are more educated and intelligent. Even stupid people in Britain are smarter than Americans." Madonna, in RT 30 June-6July 2001 (page 32)