If I know someone was married before, but have no details of their first spouse, is there any way of indicating that the spouse I am entering is the second one, without having to make up a dummy person? (I seem to remember *UNKNOWN*, or something like that, being valid as a placeholder of this sort, but can't now find it in the help.) -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf 782.55 - The Number of The Beast (including VAT)
Yes, UNKNOWN can be used. However, don't forget to add another UNKNOWN when that kind of situation comes up, again. It may be strange to have 20 different UNKNOWNs, but it is necessary. Don't use an UNKNOWN a second time, unless you are certain that it is the exact same person in both cases. Also UNKNOWN can be used when the lady's first name is known (and you use the name), but the maiden surname is not known. Thus, you could have a Jane UNKNOWN, or an Unknown (Mr.) BROWN, or an UNKNOWN. Don't forget the gender; only in this day and age could it be confusing, like Mr. Mom. I have made errors on gender, male & female, I mean. The correction can be made, although it takes several steps. I like to make surnames in all capitals. It makes scanning easier and faster. Kay C. ----- Original Message ----- From: J. P. Gilliver (John) To: bk@rootsweb.com Sent: 2012-07-08 02:39 Subject: [BK] can I enter second spouse without first? If I know someone was married before, but have no details of their first spouse, is there any way of indicating that the spouse I am entering is the second one, without having to make up a dummy person? (I seem to remember *UNKNOWN*, or something like that, being valid as a placeholder of this sort, but can't now find it in the help.) -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf 782.55 - The Number of The Beast (including VAT) Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Just leave the unknown as not entered by clicking on cancel when after entering the known parent, that way you don't have 100 UNKNOWNs. Jim -----Original Message----- From: bk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of N & K Chestnut Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 6:11 PM To: G6JPG@soft255.demon.co.uk; bk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BK] can I enter second spouse without first? Yes, UNKNOWN can be used. However, don't forget to add another UNKNOWN when that kind of situation comes up, again. It may be strange to have 20 different UNKNOWNs, but it is necessary. Don't use an UNKNOWN a second time, unless you are certain that it is the exact same person in both cases. Also UNKNOWN can be used when the lady's first name is known (and you use the name), but the maiden surname is not known. Thus, you could have a Jane UNKNOWN, or an Unknown (Mr.) BROWN, or an UNKNOWN. Don't forget the gender; only in this day and age could it be confusing, like Mr. Mom. I have made errors on gender, male & female, I mean. The correction can be made, although it takes several steps. I like to make surnames in all capitals. It makes scanning easier and faster. Kay C. ----- Original Message ----- From: J. P. Gilliver (John) To: bk@rootsweb.com Sent: 2012-07-08 02:39 Subject: [BK] can I enter second spouse without first? If I know someone was married before, but have no details of their first spouse, is there any way of indicating that the spouse I am entering is the second one, without having to make up a dummy person? (I seem to remember *UNKNOWN*, or something like that, being valid as a placeholder of this sort, but can't now find it in the help.) -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf 782.55 - The Number of The Beast (including VAT) Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
If there are no known children I record it as such in notes. Where I don't know the maiden name I use the married name in brackets. So my entry for your example below would be Jane (BROWN). If I know there are children and don't know her first name or maiden I would enter her as UnknownF (BROWN). Fid it handy to locate them this way for when I'm doing some trawling through place such as cncestry.com Bill L -----Original Message----- From: bk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of N & K Chestnut Sent: Monday, 9 July 2012 6:11 AM To: G6JPG@soft255.demon.co.uk; bk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BK] can I enter second spouse without first? Yes, UNKNOWN can be used. However, don't forget to add another UNKNOWN when that kind of situation comes up, again. It may be strange to have 20 different UNKNOWNs, but it is necessary. Don't use an UNKNOWN a second time, unless you are certain that it is the exact same person in both cases. Also UNKNOWN can be used when the lady's first name is known (and you use the name), but the maiden surname is not known. Thus, you could have a Jane UNKNOWN, or an Unknown (Mr.) BROWN, or an UNKNOWN. Don't forget the gender; only in this day and age could it be confusing, like Mr. Mom. I have made errors on gender, male & female, I mean. The correction can be made, although it takes several steps. I like to make surnames in all capitals. It makes scanning easier and faster. Kay C. ----- Original Message ----- From: J. P. Gilliver (John) To: bk@rootsweb.com Sent: 2012-07-08 02:39 Subject: [BK] can I enter second spouse without first? If I know someone was married before, but have no details of their first spouse, is there any way of indicating that the spouse I am entering is the second one, without having to make up a dummy person? (I seem to remember *UNKNOWN*, or something like that, being valid as a placeholder of this sort, but can't now find it in the help.) -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf 782.55 - The Number of The Beast (including VAT) Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
BK has the option to add "secondary" names - aka, nicknames, etc. - in the "names" tab. It doesn't appear as though that information exports in a gedcom, and I also can't find a way to create a report showing who has other names attached. Can anyone tell me how to do so, please? Even better, is there a way to include that information in a gedcom when exporting? Thank you, Greg Martin greg@bryan-martin.net
To Greg Martin All the alternate names are exported to the gedcom file. However, other programs might not be able to read the other names. All of the names except Nickname are given a special tag starting with _ "NICK" ' Nickname" "_SHON" ' Short name (for reports)" "_ADPN" ' Adopted name" "_HEBN" ' Hebrew name" "_CENN" ' Census name" "_MARN" ' Married name" "_RUFNAME" ' German name" "_FARN" ' Farm name" "_BIRN" ' Birth name" "_INDN" ' Indian name" "_FKAN" ' Formal name "_CURN" ' Current name" "_SLDN" ' Soldier name "_FRKA" ' formerly known as "_RELN" ' religious name "_CALL" ' called "_INDG" ' indigenous "_OTHN" ' Other name" You can start WordPad and open the gedcom file to verify the names are in the gedcom file As for reports, the Group sheet will print one alternate name and the Book reports can print All alternate names (turn on the option to print alternate names on Register Book, Indented Book, or Ahnentafel Book) John Steed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Martin" <greg@bryan-martin.net> To: <G6JPG@soft255.demon.co.uk>; <bk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 5:55 PM Subject: [BK] Secondary names > BK has the option to add "secondary" names - aka, nicknames, etc. - in the > "names" tab. It doesn't appear as though that information exports in a > gedcom, and I also can't find a way to create a report showing who has > other > names attached. Can anyone tell me how to do so, please? Even better, is > there a way to include that information in a gedcom when exporting? > > Thank you, > Greg Martin > greg@bryan-martin.net > > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >
On Sun, 8 Jul 2012 17:55:38 -0400, "Greg Martin" <greg@bryan-martin.net> wrote: >BK has the option to add "secondary" names - aka, nicknames, etc. - in the >"names" tab. It doesn't appear as though that information exports in a >gedcom, and I also can't find a way to create a report showing who has other >names attached. Can anyone tell me how to do so, please? Even better, is >there a way to include that information in a gedcom when exporting? > as far as I can see, all alternatives names are exported. Using last version? -- Otto Jørgensen http://www.bkwin.info/ All email is checked by NORTON
On Sun, 8 Jul 2012 17:55:38 -0400, "Greg Martin" <greg@bryan-martin.net> wrote: >BK has the option to add "secondary" names - aka, nicknames, etc. - in the >"names" tab. It doesn't appear as though that information exports in a >gedcom, and I also can't find a way to create a report showing who has other >names attached. Can anyone tell me how to do so, please? Even better, is >there a way to include that information in a gedcom when exporting? I believe a report to onlys list person who has only alternatives names are not present yet -- Otto Jørgensen http://www.bkwin.info/ All email is checked by NORTON
To J. P. Gilliver Yes, it is possible to have the first spouse be "not entered" and then have the second spouse be a person. If there are children, I can give you one way to do it. If there are no children to attach to the first spouse, then you can add a spouse called UNKNOWN. After you attach the spouse, then show UNKNOWN at the top and click Delete, Person. That will delete UNKNOWN and leave the person with a spouse of (Not Entered) with no number. Then click Add Spouse to add the second spouse. It will ask if you want to enter the not entered spouse, so answer no and add the second spouse instead. John Steed ----- Original Message ----- From: "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG@soft255.demon.co.uk> To: <bk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 5:39 PM Subject: [BK] can I enter second spouse without first? > If I know someone was married before, but have no details of their first > spouse, is there any way of indicating that the spouse I am entering is > the second one, without having to make up a dummy person? > > (I seem to remember *UNKNOWN*, or something like that, being valid as a > placeholder of this sort, but can't now find it in the help.) > -- > J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf > > 782.55 - The Number of The Beast (including VAT) > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >