These notes reminds me of questions I've had for some time. Is there an archive of discussions regarding privacy issues? Or a link? I don't want to rehash it all if that's available. Standard policies that I should be aware of? Surely, genealogists must deal with privacy frequently, especially with respect to dates. I'm an amateur and only have a few hundred names, so far, and have not yet taken the step of making the database available on-line. I've run into relatives who are clearly reluctant to provide *any* information beyond name, rank & serial number, and I know I'd be in trouble if they discovered I published personal information beyond that (either paper or digital). As a result, I've become much more careful than I was when starting this project. For example, now I would not make a data base available on-line anywhere which included significant details for people under age 100, living or not. Perhaps even that's not good enough. How do genealogists deal with this? In my case, I'd sure like to stay on speaking terms with all my relatives. //jack On 7/2/2012 12:46 PM, Jim Dell wrote: > Rootsweb is still there and FREE and is owned by Ancestry. > > If you only want non-paying customers of Ancestry NOT to see your data post > it there. > > But if you want the new genealogist and casual lookers to see it, put it on > Rootsweb. > > Mine is on Rootsweb. > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: bk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > Robert Kirk > Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 3:10 PM > To: bk@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BK] GEDCOM to the Internet > > This is somewhat off topic, so skip if uninterested. > > I have a reasonably extensive BK database of some 4600 names, some of whom > are only relatives of relatives and not at all blood kin to me - but they > were fun to track down. I keep the database to myself and have given extract > reports& trees to those relatives who expressed interest. Not too many, > unfortunately; I wish more were interested. > > I'm thanking of generating a GEDCOM of all people in my database and > uploading it to the Internet. I hope someone may be interested. But a > couple of questions arise. > > 1. I don't want the hassle of asking every relative's permission before I do > it. Is this a problem? BK has a feature of naming everyone under 100 years > of age as "Living" or some such. Is this sufficient to avoid hurt feelings? > I think the web sites do something like this automatically, so I may not > need to generate the anonymous GEDCOM. > > 2. I'm pretty lax with my sourcing, and even some of my formal sources are > shown as "SSDI" or "1900 CENSUS" or Knight's Ferry Cemetery Book" Is this an > acceptable way to upload. I don't feel like going back and doing correctly > formatted sources. Also, many of my sources are contained in the Notes as, > "Granny Hull told me this" or "birth year selected from averaging > 4 census reports" The Notes section also contains a lot of family gossip, my > prejudices, and other things I'd as soon as not publicize. So I assume BK > will let me keep the notes out of the GEDCOM? > > 3. Where to? The new Family Search - Family Tree of the LDS Family Search > website, and Ancestry.com's web site strike me as most appropriate.Is > Rootsweb dead? Should I do one or the other or, perhaps, both? That could > lead to synchronization problems, I expect. > > Bob Kirk > > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- One of the traditional methods of imposing statism or socialism on a people has been by way of medicine. -- Ronald Reagan
Is my name in a computer? In my genealogy travels I have met people that said they didn't want their name in a computer. Well I am sorry to say that regardless if they are in my computer here, there are other computers in which their name might appear 1 Birth Your birth record is in the county's and state's computer. Also depending on the state you were born in it may be online since some states sold their birth indexes. 2 Social Security Card Do you have a social security card? If you do, your name in their computers & the IRS. 3 School Did you go to school? Each school will have a computerized record of you attending. And the Alumni Associations probably have you in their computers. 4 Work Do you have a job? Your name is in the company's payroll system. 5 Resumes How many resumes have you sent out? Each of those was probably scanned and added to the companies computers. Did you post it on the internet? If yes add another 100 computers. 5 401K Have a 401K? You name is in their computers. 6 Married Your name is in the marriage records at the county & state level. 7 Children Have any children? Your name is on their birth record see #1 above. 8 Divorced Your name is in the divorce records computers and possibly in online divorce indexes Military The Air Force, Army, Navy, or Marines (Coast Guard is here) has your name in their computer. 9 Own a car Your name is in the automobile title system. 10 Own a house Your name is in the real estate records of the county. 11 Have a bank account Your name is in their computers 12 Got a credit card Your name is in their computers Buy any stocks? Your name is in their computers 13 Get junk mail Your name is in their computers 14 Taxes Multiple computers here City, State & Federal. 15 Got a ticket or arrested? Your name is in their computers 16 Belong to a club or association? Your name is in their computers 17 Been in a hospital? Your name is in their computers 18 Been to a doctor? Your name is in their computers 19 Been to a dentist? Your name is in their computers 20 Ordered a pizza for delivery Your name is in their computers 21 Ordered anything online or over the phone Your name is in their computers 22 Got a passport? Your name is in their computers 23 Traveled commercially (airplane, train, bus) Your name is in their computers Have a lawn service? Your name is in their computers Have any utility bills? Your name is in their computers Ever voted? Your name is in their computers Has the government ever counted you in a census? Your name is in their computers Anybody ever done your family tree on a computer? You are in their computer and possibly the LDS's in Salt Lake. Jim -----Original Message----- From: bk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jack Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 5:27 PM To: bk@rootsweb.com Subject: [BK] Genealogy & Privacy These notes reminds me of questions I've had for some time. Is there an archive of discussions regarding privacy issues? Or a link? I don't want to rehash it all if that's available. Standard policies that I should be aware of? Surely, genealogists must deal with privacy frequently, especially with respect to dates. I'm an amateur and only have a few hundred names, so far, and have not yet taken the step of making the database available on-line. I've run into relatives who are clearly reluctant to provide *any* information beyond name, rank & serial number, and I know I'd be in trouble if they discovered I published personal information beyond that (either paper or digital). As a result, I've become much more careful than I was when starting this project. For example, now I would not make a data base available on-line anywhere which included significant details for people under age 100, living or not. Perhaps even that's not good enough. How do genealogists deal with this? In my case, I'd sure like to stay on speaking terms with all my relatives. //jack On 7/2/2012 12:46 PM, Jim Dell wrote: > Rootsweb is still there and FREE and is owned by Ancestry. > > If you only want non-paying customers of Ancestry NOT to see your data > post it there. > > But if you want the new genealogist and casual lookers to see it, put > it on Rootsweb. > > Mine is on Rootsweb. > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: bk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Robert Kirk > Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 3:10 PM > To: bk@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BK] GEDCOM to the Internet > > This is somewhat off topic, so skip if uninterested. > > I have a reasonably extensive BK database of some 4600 names, some of > whom are only relatives of relatives and not at all blood kin to me - > but they were fun to track down. I keep the database to myself and > have given extract reports& trees to those relatives who expressed > interest. Not too many, unfortunately; I wish more were interested. > > I'm thanking of generating a GEDCOM of all people in my database and > uploading it to the Internet. I hope someone may be interested. But a > couple of questions arise. > > 1. I don't want the hassle of asking every relative's permission > before I do it. Is this a problem? BK has a feature of naming everyone > under 100 years of age as "Living" or some such. Is this sufficient to avoid hurt feelings? > I think the web sites do something like this automatically, so I may > not need to generate the anonymous GEDCOM. > > 2. I'm pretty lax with my sourcing, and even some of my formal sources > are shown as "SSDI" or "1900 CENSUS" or Knight's Ferry Cemetery Book" > Is this an acceptable way to upload. I don't feel like going back and > doing correctly formatted sources. Also, many of my sources are > contained in the Notes as, "Granny Hull told me this" or "birth year > selected from averaging > 4 census reports" The Notes section also contains a lot of family > gossip, my prejudices, and other things I'd as soon as not publicize. > So I assume BK will let me keep the notes out of the GEDCOM? > > 3. Where to? The new Family Search - Family Tree of the LDS Family > Search website, and Ancestry.com's web site strike me as most > appropriate.Is Rootsweb dead? Should I do one or the other or, > perhaps, both? That could lead to synchronization problems, I expect. > > Bob Kirk > > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- One of the traditional methods of imposing statism or socialism on a people has been by way of medicine. -- Ronald Reagan Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
In message <000601cd58a8$a6e79fc0$f4b6df40$@yahoo.com>, Jim Dell <dellji@yahoo.com> writes: >Is my name in a computer? > >In my genealogy travels I have met people that said they didn't want their >name in a computer. Well I am sorry to say that regardless if they are in >my computer here, there are other computers in which their name might appear [snip long list of computers] It's not just being "in computers": some genealogists don't want their work to be made widely available. Although I don't feel that way - if only because I feel propagating _correct_ information will reduce the amount of incorrect doing the rounds - I would like to obey their request because: (a) I generally try to respect other's beliefs, even if I don't agree with them, and (b) I'd receive a lot less information if I got known as a sieve. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf We shall never - never! - allow foreigners to run our economy. They might cure it. (George Mikes, "How to be Decadent" [1977].)
On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 14:27:00 -0700, Jack <john.cook58@verizon.net> wrote: >These notes reminds me of questions I've had for some time. Is there an >archive of discussions regarding privacy issues? Or a link? I don't >want to rehash it all if that's available. Standard policies that I >should be aware of? > It is not easy, You can serach, but will have many links. One of the large problem is that we users are not clever to make good subjects on our problem. And we do not start a new subject with a cllean and new email. Now all is mixed up and you have to read a lot to find the "good one" -- Otto Jørgensen http://www.bkwin.info/ All email is checked by NORTON