Max, I do not have the latest version, but It is very easy to see if it is a problem with BK. 1. Choose any person with two sets of persons; say it is person #1. 2. In the Gedcom export dialog box, click "Selected People" 3. In the number of generations, put 2. 4. In the "Select the people to copy to the Gedcom file", click "Ancestors of a person" 5. In the Select person" box, put the number of the person with two sets of parents: in my example, #1 6. If both sets of parents were actually selected, the next screen (actually the "Select the people..." again) would show 5 people selected -- the person with 2 parents and both sets of parents (if they are all distinct). In the version I am using, only 3 people are selected. You have brought up a serious question. Jim R Gettysburg, PA ----- Original Message ----- From: Max van Dam To: bk@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 4:16 PM Subject: Re: [BK] Natural parents and foster parents Dear Otto, I work with BK 6.5.6 I did indeed the steps as you mentioned. I have made a gedcom starting by myself and a gedcom starting with my mother. In these gedcoms I miss my fosterparents. If I make a gedcom starting with my foster-parents than I miss my natural parents. I had hoped to see something like two marriages. I'm not sure that it is not a problem in BK. With my best regards, Max van Dam Rechovot Israel http://www.maxvandam.info/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Otto Jørgensen To: bk@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:57 PM Subject: Re: [BK] Natural parents and foster parents On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 21:35:11 +0200, "Max van Dam" <vandam@actcom.co.il> wrote: >I need your help. > >After WO II I was an orphan. After WO II I have had foster parents. >They have treated me as their own son, but did not adopt me >afficially. > >I have now the following problem. > >It is no problem in BK to connect both parents families to me, but if I make >a gedcom and bring that to the program to the program which I use to >publish my database, I see than only the connection between my >foster-parents and me. > >For this moment I do not know in which program is the problem either BK > or HUMO-gen that I use for my site. > >Can somebody tell me is there an official gedcom code for foster parents? > I believe you use latest versikon of BK I believe you have added you as foster to Your Fosterparents and that you also have marked the bilogical parents as BK tells you. You can then make a short gedcom from BK and open if in Notepad and see that you have "all parents" in the Gedcom file. I believe the problem is in the program you use to present the result, not BK. You can see a report in BK where it says who is your bilogical parents and who are your fosterparents -- Otto Jørgensen http://www.bkwin.info/ All email is checked by NORTON Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Thanks Jim. For this moment I think also that there is a problem in BK. With my best regards, Max van Dam Rechovot Israel http://www.maxvandam.info/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Ramaley To: bk@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 12:52 AM Subject: Re: [BK] Natural parents and foster parents Max, I do not have the latest version, but It is very easy to see if it is a problem with BK. 1. Choose any person with two sets of persons; say it is person #1. 2. In the Gedcom export dialog box, click "Selected People" 3. In the number of generations, put 2. 4. In the "Select the people to copy to the Gedcom file", click "Ancestors of a person" 5. In the Select person" box, put the number of the person with two sets of parents: in my example, #1 6. If both sets of parents were actually selected, the next screen (actually the "Select the people..." again) would show 5 people selected -- the person with 2 parents and both sets of parents (if they are all distinct). In the version I am using, only 3 people are selected. You have brought up a serious question. Jim R Gettysburg, PA ----- Original Message ----- From: Max van Dam To: bk@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 4:16 PM Subject: Re: [BK] Natural parents and foster parents Dear Otto, I work with BK 6.5.6 I did indeed the steps as you mentioned. I have made a gedcom starting by myself and a gedcom starting with my mother. In these gedcoms I miss my fosterparents. If I make a gedcom starting with my foster-parents than I miss my natural parents. I had hoped to see something like two marriages. I'm not sure that it is not a problem in BK. With my best regards, Max van Dam Rechovot Israel http://www.maxvandam.info/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Otto Jørgensen To: bk@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:57 PM Subject: Re: [BK] Natural parents and foster parents On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 21:35:11 +0200, "Max van Dam" <vandam@actcom.co.il> wrote: >I need your help. > >After WO II I was an orphan. After WO II I have had foster parents. >They have treated me as their own son, but did not adopt me >afficially. > >I have now the following problem. > >It is no problem in BK to connect both parents families to me, but if I make >a gedcom and bring that to the program to the program which I use to >publish my database, I see than only the connection between my >foster-parents and me. > >For this moment I do not know in which program is the problem either BK > or HUMO-gen that I use for my site. > >Can somebody tell me is there an official gedcom code for foster parents? > I believe you use latest versikon of BK I believe you have added you as foster to Your Fosterparents and that you also have marked the bilogical parents as BK tells you. You can then make a short gedcom from BK and open if in Notepad and see that you have "all parents" in the Gedcom file. I believe the problem is in the program you use to present the result, not BK. You can see a report in BK where it says who is your bilogical parents and who are your fosterparents -- Otto Jørgensen http://www.bkwin.info/ All email is checked by NORTON Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Max, I hate to disagree in my BK 6.5.6 version of BK the following is generated 0 @I2245@ INDI Items deleted and not necessary for this discussion 1 FAMC @F699@ 1 FAMC @F613@ 1 ADOP 2 FAMC @F699@ As you can see he is assigned to two different families. If you search the GEDCOM for @F613@ you'll find 0 @F613@ FAM 1 HUSB @I1732@ 1 WIFE @I1750@ 1 CHIL @I2245@ 1 CHIL @I2246@ 1 CHIL @I2247@ If you search of @F699@ you'll find 0 @F699@ FAM 1 HUSB @I2244@ 1 WIFE @I1728@ 1 CHIL @I2245@ 2 _FREL Adopted 2 _MREL Adopted 1 CHIL @I2246@ 2 _FREL Adopted 2 _MREL Adopted 1 CHIL @I2247@ 2 _FREL Adopted 2 _MREL Adopted So I am saying, at least with my copy of BK it's doing it correctly. And I just checked it imports both sets of parents into FTM 2012. Jim -----Original Message----- From: bk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Max van Dam Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 7:08 PM To: bk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BK] Natural parents and foster parents Thanks Jim. For this moment I think also that there is a problem in BK. With my best regards, Max van Dam Rechovot Israel http://www.maxvandam.info/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Ramaley To: bk@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 12:52 AM Subject: Re: [BK] Natural parents and foster parents Max, I do not have the latest version, but It is very easy to see if it is a problem with BK. 1. Choose any person with two sets of persons; say it is person #1. 2. In the Gedcom export dialog box, click "Selected People" 3. In the number of generations, put 2. 4. In the "Select the people to copy to the Gedcom file", click "Ancestors of a person" 5. In the Select person" box, put the number of the person with two sets of parents: in my example, #1 6. If both sets of parents were actually selected, the next screen (actually the "Select the people..." again) would show 5 people selected -- the person with 2 parents and both sets of parents (if they are all distinct). In the version I am using, only 3 people are selected. You have brought up a serious question. Jim R Gettysburg, PA ----- Original Message ----- From: Max van Dam To: bk@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 4:16 PM Subject: Re: [BK] Natural parents and foster parents Dear Otto, I work with BK 6.5.6 I did indeed the steps as you mentioned. I have made a gedcom starting by myself and a gedcom starting with my mother. In these gedcoms I miss my fosterparents. If I make a gedcom starting with my foster-parents than I miss my natural parents. I had hoped to see something like two marriages. I'm not sure that it is not a problem in BK. With my best regards, Max van Dam Rechovot Israel http://www.maxvandam.info/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Otto Jørgensen To: bk@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:57 PM Subject: Re: [BK] Natural parents and foster parents On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 21:35:11 +0200, "Max van Dam" <vandam@actcom.co.il> wrote: >I need your help. > >After WO II I was an orphan. After WO II I have had foster parents. >They have treated me as their own son, but did not adopt me >afficially. > >I have now the following problem. > >It is no problem in BK to connect both parents families to me, but if I make >a gedcom and bring that to the program to the program which I use to >publish my database, I see than only the connection between my >foster-parents and me. > >For this moment I do not know in which program is the problem either BK > or HUMO-gen that I use for my site. > >Can somebody tell me is there an official gedcom code for foster parents? > I believe you use latest versikon of BK I believe you have added you as foster to Your Fosterparents and that you also have marked the bilogical parents as BK tells you. You can then make a short gedcom from BK and open if in Notepad and see that you have "all parents" in the Gedcom file. I believe the problem is in the program you use to present the result, not BK. You can see a report in BK where it says who is your bilogical parents and who are your fosterparents -- Otto Jørgensen http://www.bkwin.info/ All email is checked by NORTON Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Dear Jim, Thanks for your mail, but I have a question. If I understood you very well, you show the case of adopted children. Do you have of them also the natural parents in the database? That is the case in my situation natural parents and foster parents (not adopted). I could not see that in your example. Fine that you try to help me. With my best regards, Max van Dam Rechovot Israel http://www.maxvandam.info/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Dell To: bk@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 2:46 AM Subject: Re: [BK] Natural parents and foster parents Max, I hate to disagree in my BK 6.5.6 version of BK the following is generated 0 @I2245@ INDI Items deleted and not necessary for this discussion 1 FAMC @F699@ 1 FAMC @F613@ 1 ADOP 2 FAMC @F699@ As you can see he is assigned to two different families. If you search the GEDCOM for @F613@ you'll find 0 @F613@ FAM 1 HUSB @I1732@ 1 WIFE @I1750@ 1 CHIL @I2245@ 1 CHIL @I2246@ 1 CHIL @I2247@ If you search of @F699@ you'll find 0 @F699@ FAM 1 HUSB @I2244@ 1 WIFE @I1728@ 1 CHIL @I2245@ 2 _FREL Adopted 2 _MREL Adopted 1 CHIL @I2246@ 2 _FREL Adopted 2 _MREL Adopted 1 CHIL @I2247@ 2 _FREL Adopted 2 _MREL Adopted So I am saying, at least with my copy of BK it's doing it correctly. And I just checked it imports both sets of parents into FTM 2012. Jim -----Original Message----- From: bk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Max van Dam Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 7:08 PM To: bk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BK] Natural parents and foster parents Thanks Jim. For this moment I think also that there is a problem in BK. With my best regards, Max van Dam Rechovot Israel http://www.maxvandam.info/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Ramaley To: bk@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 12:52 AM Subject: Re: [BK] Natural parents and foster parents Max, I do not have the latest version, but It is very easy to see if it is a problem with BK. 1. Choose any person with two sets of persons; say it is person #1. 2. In the Gedcom export dialog box, click "Selected People" 3. In the number of generations, put 2. 4. In the "Select the people to copy to the Gedcom file", click "Ancestors of a person" 5. In the Select person" box, put the number of the person with two sets of parents: in my example, #1 6. If both sets of parents were actually selected, the next screen (actually the "Select the people..." again) would show 5 people selected -- the person with 2 parents and both sets of parents (if they are all distinct). In the version I am using, only 3 people are selected. You have brought up a serious question. Jim R Gettysburg, PA ----- Original Message ----- From: Max van Dam To: bk@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 4:16 PM Subject: Re: [BK] Natural parents and foster parents Dear Otto, I work with BK 6.5.6 I did indeed the steps as you mentioned. I have made a gedcom starting by myself and a gedcom starting with my mother. In these gedcoms I miss my fosterparents. If I make a gedcom starting with my foster-parents than I miss my natural parents. I had hoped to see something like two marriages. I'm not sure that it is not a problem in BK. With my best regards, Max van Dam Rechovot Israel http://www.maxvandam.info/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Otto Jørgensen To: bk@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:57 PM Subject: Re: [BK] Natural parents and foster parents On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 21:35:11 +0200, "Max van Dam" <vandam@actcom.co.il> wrote: >I need your help. > >After WO II I was an orphan. After WO II I have had foster parents. >They have treated me as their own son, but did not adopt me >afficially. > >I have now the following problem. > >It is no problem in BK to connect both parents families to me, but if I make >a gedcom and bring that to the program to the program which I use to >publish my database, I see than only the connection between my >foster-parents and me. > >For this moment I do not know in which program is the problem either BK > or HUMO-gen that I use for my site. > >Can somebody tell me is there an official gedcom code for foster parents? > I believe you use latest versikon of BK I believe you have added you as foster to Your Fosterparents and that you also have marked the bilogical parents as BK tells you. You can then make a short gedcom from BK and open if in Notepad and see that you have "all parents" in the Gedcom file. I believe the problem is in the program you use to present the result, not BK. You can see a report in BK where it says who is your bilogical parents and who are your fosterparents -- Otto Jørgensen http://www.bkwin.info/ All email is checked by NORTON Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 02:08:24 +0200, "Max van Dam" <vandam@actcom.co.il> wrote: >Thanks Jim. > >For this moment I think also that there is a problem in BK. > >With my best regards, There us one very missing subject on this regarding Step, foster, biological children If a couple have several children to take care of, e.g. on adopted child and a biological child the Descendant Tree Chart The result makes no different and all children are presented in the same way AS biological children It should be a way to make a differency. E.g. the line from "parents" to childrent should be different a line from parents to biological child a "dotted" line from "foster parent" to "foster childe" -- Otto Jørgensen http://www.bkwin.info/ All email is checked by NORTON
Dear Otto, I agree with you. A dotted line or other difference in the lining would be fine. Max van Dam ----- Original Message ----- From: Otto Jørgensen To: bk@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 9:43 AM Subject: Re: [BK] Natural parents and foster parents On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 02:08:24 +0200, "Max van Dam" <vandam@actcom.co.il> wrote: >Thanks Jim. > >For this moment I think also that there is a problem in BK. > >With my best regards, There us one very missing subject on this regarding Step, foster, biological children If a couple have several children to take care of, e.g. on adopted child and a biological child the Descendant Tree Chart The result makes no different and all children are presented in the same way AS biological children It should be a way to make a differency. E.g. the line from "parents" to childrent should be different a line from parents to biological child a "dotted" line from "foster parent" to "foster childe" -- Otto Jørgensen http://www.bkwin.info/ All email is checked by NORTON Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message