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    1. [BK] Re: Ancestry Gedcom problems
    2. Frances LaChance
    3. I uninstalled BK completely - reinstalled full BK and  it's now working. Still not sure where the glitch came from though. Thanks John & Barry for all your help. Fran On 02/07/2019 8:31 p.m., Barry PYCROFT wrote: > > Fran, > > First up... > > The Gedcom File opened well in my GenViewer.  {There are no sources, > notes or anything in this app, just relationships of families, dates & > Locations.) > >  The Gedcom File opened well in my Validator  ( telling of these > errors below.). > > There are 1589 persons in your file. > > The fie has over 2500 errors of the Gedcom standard. Or best practice. > > The individuals [ I ] are identified as [ P ] for person. > > Sources are missing from the file -  See pic. > > There are 10110 [ _APID ... ] = Ancestry Person Id? > >  =-=-=-=-=-=-=-==- > > The file opened  OK in My BroKeep. > > The media files appear to have imported well. > > Some sources and references are OK, Others in error. > >   The images are not  downloaded. > > On reading through your posts, Fran,  you have a verification to make. > > * 1).- That BK runs ok on other databases.. > > ** 2).- The new folder name for this imported gedcom file is > acceptable (unprintable or improper characters, like, [Tab], [Comma], > [wrong type of [ slash] [\ or /] are not included. > > < My British Roots.ged > appears to  be a proper file, though highly > weighted for Ancestry.com. > > 3).- The Importing of the gedcom tells of these Ancestry peculiarities > and makes a Ged.lst. > >  I open the gedcom and the <ged.lst > with notepad hem copy all to  > tabs in Excel.  (makes for fascinating reading). > > ** 4). I suspect you are making an unacceptable folder name on your > hard-drive.  (If I am wrong, then I know not otherwise). >                 {BK cannot use Dropbox for its database or import from > a gedcom there.} > > Fran, I know it is a long way around, but try EXPORTING a small group > of people from an existing BK database  then import that into a new > folder / database , say "Temp" for Temporary, or < Britishfolk >. > > The errors and missing data and information is just that, ignored & lost. > > Other than that, the Gedcom file you sent me imports into BK well enough. > > I downloaded  my own tree as a Gedcom file from Ancestry and that had > no problems, but I have a simpler set of data,  so the Ancestry > ""Push"" was not so apparent as errors. > > I suspect then, Fran, that your Open database process and creating a > new folder is letting you down. > > Ignore the errors as the Gedfile is imported.  As per the image > attached above.  But read the Ged.List that is produced. > >  Best ... > >                 Barry P. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Frances LaChance [mailto:singer.35@hotmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, 3 July 2019 9:44 AM > To: barry@pycroft.co.nz > Subject: Re: [BK] Re: Ancestry Gedcom problems > > thanks Barry;   I think so too as it opened in Roots Magic.  I've > attached the gedcom - not as large as the last one :-) > > On 02/07/2019 5:20 p.m., Barry PYCROFT wrote: > > > Frances > > >   Hello From Christchurch. > > > > > >   I wonder if I can help? > > > > > > **       Firstly, does Bro Keep run OK? > > > > > > **       Secondly:- Can you send me your Gedcom, as you did recently? > > > > > > I think there is a particular part of Ancestry.com  Gedcom file that > needs > > > changing.  But I need to see it. > > > > > >    Barry P. > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Frances LaChance [mailto:singer.35@hotmail.com] > > > Sent: Wednesday, 3 July 2019 5:02 AM > > > To: John Steed <brothers_keeper@msn.com > <mailto:brothers_keeper@msn.com>>; bk@rootsweb.com > <mailto:bk@rootsweb.com> > > > Subject: [BK] Re: Ancestry Gedcom problems > > > > > > Uninstalled everything BK (except Databases) - Reinstalled full > version and > > > got it to "Run as Administrator" but nothing changes. > > > > > > Might it be something in the Gedcom heading that BK doesn't like? > > > > > > Fran > > > > > > > > > > > > On 02/07/2019 10:40 a.m., Fran L wrote: > > >> Strangely there is no Compatibility on the Properties screen. However, > > >> on right click Delete and Rename have the Blue/Gold shield [if that > > >> means anything].   Properties screen shot below. > > >> > > >> > > >> I just realized that this problem started when I got my new laptop. > > >> Techs installed everything so perhaps missed something in installing > > >> BK.   I am tempted to uninstall BK totally and start from scratch.  My > > >> data files are all separate from the BK program so are safe, but will > > >> await your suggestions. > > >> > > >> > > >> Thanks, John > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> PROPERTIES: > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> On 02/07/2019 10:19 a.m., John Steed wrote: > > >>> Hi > > >>> > > >>> Try this before starting BK > > >>> > > >>> Right click the BK icon and pick Properties, Compatibility tab, Run > > >>> as administrator, and click OK. > > >>> > > >>> Then start BK and answer Yes if it ask if BK can make changes. > > >>> > > >>> Then try the Gedcom import again. > > >>> > > >>> John Steed > > >>> > > >>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >>> *From:* Frances LaChance <singer.35@hotmail.com > <mailto:singer.35@hotmail.com>> > > >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 2, 2019 2:01 PM > > >>> *To:* John Steed > > >>> *Subject:* Re: [BK] Re: Ancestry Gedcom problems > > >>> Still the same - on the white screen the error message says: Error 52 > > >>> Bad file name or number > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Is there a way to check permission for BK in Windows 10? > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Fran > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> On 02/07/2019 7:51 a.m., John Steed wrote: > > >>>> Hi > > >>>> > > >>>> It might be that Windows has protected some folders and BK is > having a > > >>>> problem writing to them. > > >>>> > > >>>> Try this > > >>>> > > >>>> In BK pick File, Open Database. > > >>>> > > >>>> In the Create box type > > >>>> > > >>>> C:\BK7\Britscompare > > >>>> > > >>>> Then click Create > > >>>> > > >>>> After you create that folder, then do the Gedcom import. > > >>>> > > >>>> If that works, then BK may only be having problems with your C:\Users > > >>>>   folder   (Windows not giving BK permission.) > > >>>> > > >>>> John Steed > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >>>> *From:* Frances LaChance <singer.35@hotmail.com > <mailto:singer.35@hotmail.com>> > > >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 2, 2019 2:00 AM > > >>>> *To:* John Steed > > >>>> *Subject:* Re: [BK] Re: Ancestry Gedcom problems > > >>>> John; > > >>>> > > >>>> That didn't work. first error is: "can not create that note folder: 0 > > >>>> ",  then the white close screen. then the Location 3 error. > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> I tried making a gedcom from Roots Magic and BK won't accept that > > >>> either. > > >>>> > > >>>> I've shut down my computer before trying but it's not that.    I had > > >>>> almost this same problem with a BK gedcom not being accepted on World > > >>>> Connect so wonder if it's my BK program.  Maybe need to install a > > >>> clean > > >>>> full version? > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> Fran > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> On 01/07/2019 7:31 p.m., John Steed wrote: > > >>>>> Hi > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Yes, Dropbox might be a problem while running a Gedcom import. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Try making the new database somewhere else.  You can still > > >>> compare it > > >>>>> no matter where it is. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> John Steed > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >>>>> *From:* Frances LaChance <singer.35@hotmail.com > <mailto:singer.35@hotmail.com>> > > >>>>> *Sent:* Monday, July 1, 2019 9:30 PM > > >>>>> *To:* John Steed > > >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [BK] Re: Ancestry Gedcom problems > > >>>>> HI John; > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Yes I opened a new database: > > >>>> C:\USERS\FRANCES\DROPBOX\BK-DATA\BRITSCOMPARE > > >>>>> Might Dropbox be the problem although it opened fine in Roots Magic. > > >>>>> But I want to compare it to my BK database. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Fran > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On 01/07/2019 5:08 p.m., John Steed wrote: > > >>>>>> To Frances LaChance > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Location 3 is a "program" location that only I can use. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Do NOT open your BK database with NotePad because that can damage > > >>>>> the database. > > >>>>>> OK, did you have a blank empty BK database before you did the > > >>> GEDCOM > > >>>>> import? > > >>>>>> What is the exact name of the empty BK database folder that > > >>> shows at > > >>>>> the bottom of the main BK screen above "0 names" > > >>>>>> John Steed > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> ________________________________ > > >>>>>> From: Frances LaChance <singer.35@hotmail.com > <mailto:singer.35@hotmail.com>> > > >>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 5:00 PM > > >>>>>> To: bk@rootsweb.com <mailto:bk@rootsweb.com> > > >>>>>> Subject: [BK] Ancestry Gedcom problems > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> BK 7.4.3  - Registered user > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> hi All; > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> I d/l my tree from Ancestry as a gedcom and am getting this error > > >>>> when I > > >>>>>> try to enter it into a new database in BK: "Bad File Name" error > > >>>>>> occurred at program location 3   I opened BK in Notepad but can't > > >>>> figure > > >>>>>> out which is location 3, nor what it should be. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Any help appreciated, > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Fran > > >>>>>> >

    07/03/2019 09:05:20
    1. [BK] Re: Ancestry Gedcom problems
    2. Frances LaChance
    3. Thanks Barry; as I said it ow works;  however checking the Ged.lst there were many many _APID entries so I went looking for Ancestry's explanation and thought you might be interested.  It wouldn't have helped me but you're more tech savvy then I am - and may already know this. Fran * Thank you for posting your question about APID tags to our Community Forums. The APID tag is an internal value used by Family Tree Maker and Ancestry.com <http://Ancestry.com>. It is basically a database id number for a source. So the tag 3 _APID 1,7857::52344 is specific to your Family Tree GEDCOM, and references particular sources that are linked to individuals in your tree. Hope that helps answer your question. Sincerely, Ancestry Support Community Team * Tom Pears <https://support.ancestry.com/s/profile/00515000006gX2PAAU>(Customer) 6 years ago Hello Alan, Good chance we can dope this out, or at least get a little further. Warning, don't try this at home. 3 _APID 1,7857::52344 looks like we are dealing with 4 fields. The first of course is 3 _APID. I'm pretty sure the 3 refers to a Citation Structure and if it was 1 _APID 1,2442::0 the 1 would mean it refers to a Source Record. I assume citation is to a Ancestry tree created by a user and Source record is a public doc like census. I have not seen a 2 _APID 1,xxx yet I assume the 1 following the APID and before the , refers to the tree in your account, tree 1, tree 2 etc Note that the 1 _APID 1 only has one number and the 3 _APID 1,7857::52344 has 2 separated by the :: Lets assume the 1 _APID 1,2442::0 is a link to the Source record. The 3 _APID 1,7857::52344 is referring to a particular tree and then an individual in that tree? The obvious way to reverse engineer this is to create a VERY simple tree. Export the GED. Attach one citation to the tree and export the GED again. Feel free to contact me at tpearsATaol.com <http://tpearsATaol.com>if you want to play this game. If you don't like playing with computer code, just ignore this. And as the moderator has said, this is about internal numbers and could change in any way any time. It is just a fun exercise to peek behind the curtain.

    07/03/2019 09:12:19