As described in my previous thread, I'd entered someone's Occupation, but as Ordination, in error. I changed the event type no problem - but (and not until quitting the person or doing certain other actions), I got a pop-up saying something like "event type has been changed from X to Y - link to source will be discarded", with options of only Cancel and OK; if Cancel is selected, the type change is also cancelled. Why does this happen? Surely entering the wrong event type isn't an uncommon action (especially events starting with the same letter, such as in English Ordination/Occupation, or Born/Baptised/Buried); I can't think why correcting the event type should make me want to discard the source. (In the meantime, here's how I've found to achieve such a change without having to retype the source, in case it helps others: if you get the popup, select cancel; click on the S for source, then View selected source [Alt-W], which puts it into the top of the recent sources list. Now change the event type, and click S again; you can then add recent source and page [Alt-N] or just recent source [Alt-V]. S then Alt-W is a good way in general of copying an existing source, as it copies it to the top of the "recent sources" list [complete with Page if any].) It would be worse if I'd entered multiple sources. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf A. Top-posters. Q. What's the most irritating thing on Usenet?
To J P Gilliver It is complicated to program a way to move the source and event notes, from an Event to a Fact. The source needs to be changed to point to a different record number in a different file, and some other things need to be changed also. Yes, I can program it if you give me enough time. I try to think of how common the problem is for users, and if it is a common problem, I spend the time to make a solution. If it is a rare problem for users, then I spend my time working on other things. I get lots of requests for new features, new reports, or ways to make things better. Most of those requests do not come from this BK mailing list, so you only see a few of them. I appreciate the suggestions, it helps make the program better. Your suggestion is on my list. John Steed ________________________________ From: J. P. Gilliver (John) <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 12:05 PM To: bk@rootsweb.com Subject: [BK] changing event type loses source: why? As described in my previous thread, I'd entered someone's Occupation, but as Ordination, in error. I changed the event type no problem - but (and not until quitting the person or doing certain other actions), I got a pop-up saying something like "event type has been changed from X to Y - link to source will be discarded", with options of only Cancel and OK; if Cancel is selected, the type change is also cancelled. Why does this happen? Surely entering the wrong event type isn't an uncommon action (especially events starting with the same letter, such as in English Ordination/Occupation, or Born/Baptised/Buried); I can't think why correcting the event type should make me want to discard the source. (In the meantime, here's how I've found to achieve such a change without having to retype the source, in case it helps others: if you get the popup, select cancel; click on the S for source, then View selected source [Alt-W], which puts it into the top of the recent sources list. Now change the event type, and click S again; you can then add recent source and page [Alt-N] or just recent source [Alt-V]. S then Alt-W is a good way in general of copying an existing source, as it copies it to the top of the "recent sources" list [complete with Page if any].) It would be worse if I'd entered multiple sources. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf A. Top-posters. Q. What's the most irritating thing on Usenet? _______________________________________________ Remember - Use the Archives at https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Farchiver.rootsweb.com%2Fcgi-bin%2Fsearch&data=02%7C01%7C%7C2aacbe20e7344f83a78508d67ae1dc65%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636831507810587969&sdata=E9bDzY7rQN0B4xNdRtDnlCU%2BJF5I6T1pimBKJrn8zGQ%3D&reserved=0 _______________________________________________ Email preferences: https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fbit.ly%2Frootswebpref&data=02%7C01%7C%7C2aacbe20e7344f83a78508d67ae1dc65%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636831507810587969&sdata=V2yqIoESwUYQbZYp%2BJMLXSb1OcEziseiuyW2orrXQYc%3D&reserved=0 Unsubscribe https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.rootsweb.com%2Fpostorius%2Flists%2Fbk%40rootsweb.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C2aacbe20e7344f83a78508d67ae1dc65%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636831507810587969&sdata=WTtQyCQAKzeo9V5n%2FjaLCy63PSMxdYcjGAfZqL0A69U%3D&reserved=0 Privacy Statement: https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fancstry.me%2F2JWBOdY&data=02%7C01%7C%7C2aacbe20e7344f83a78508d67ae1dc65%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636831507810587969&sdata=D8RBjMyRIyO%2Bv6aylAGXbIS6R9ZKoLU1JMMk83CMqnM%3D&reserved=0 Terms and Conditions: https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fancstry.me%2F2HDBym9&data=02%7C01%7C%7C2aacbe20e7344f83a78508d67ae1dc65%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636831507810587969&sdata=sIMXj5mCixDyH0NgvuajzWr11fXuyLHlkiiXLvfxY14%3D&reserved=0 Rootsweb Blog: https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frootsweb.blog&data=02%7C01%7C%7C2aacbe20e7344f83a78508d67ae1dc65%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636831507810587969&sdata=F282RkIFPRLLM2xBI0XFo6ZbJ1dqR12V0RAN%2BfMkAbE%3D&reserved=0 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
In message <BN7PR02MB5092100EF987843D4A256C3791810@BN7PR02MB5092.namprd02.prod.outlo ok.com>, John Steed <brothers_keeper@msn.com> writes: >To J P Gilliver > >It is complicated to program a way to move the source and event notes, >from an Event to a Fact. I hadn't realised it only occurred for that transition - such as, as I had, from Ordination to Occupation. Presumably changing between born/baptised/buried wouldn't invoke that popup. > >The source needs to be changed to point to a different record number in >a different file, and some other things need to be changed also. > >Yes, I can program it if you give me enough time. > >I try to think of how common the problem is for users, and if it is a >common problem, I spend the time to make a solution. If it is a rare >problem for users, then I spend my time working on other things. I get I can't say. I don't think I encounter it _that_ often. Perhaps (a) if the popup said something like "save your source first" rather than "the source IS going to be lost", and (b) it were to pop up as soon as you change an Event to a Fact, rather than just when you quit the person (or ...), it might be better - but I can see that even programming in those changes would take time. >lots of requests for new features, new reports, or ways to make things >better. Most of those requests do not come from this BK mailing list, >so you only see a few of them. It would be interesting to see here the list of requests! > >I appreciate the suggestions, it helps make the program better. Your >suggestion is on my list. (-: > >John Steed > John G. [] -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf The early worm gets the bird.
The biggest request I bet he gets is for DWIT. Jim -----Original Message----- From: J. P. Gilliver (John) [mailto:G6JPG-255@255soft.uk] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 10:10 AM To: bk@rootsweb.com Subject: [BK] Re: changing event type loses source: why? In message <BN7PR02MB5092100EF987843D4A256C3791810@BN7PR02MB5092.namprd02.prod.outlo ok.com>, John Steed <brothers_keeper@msn.com> writes: >To J P Gilliver > >It is complicated to program a way to move the source and event notes, >from an Event to a Fact. I hadn't realised it only occurred for that transition - such as, as I had, from Ordination to Occupation. Presumably changing between born/baptised/buried wouldn't invoke that popup. > >The source needs to be changed to point to a different record number in >a different file, and some other things need to be changed also. > >Yes, I can program it if you give me enough time. > >I try to think of how common the problem is for users, and if it is a >common problem, I spend the time to make a solution. If it is a rare >problem for users, then I spend my time working on other things. I get I can't say. I don't think I encounter it _that_ often. Perhaps (a) if the popup said something like "save your source first" rather than "the source IS going to be lost", and (b) it were to pop up as soon as you change an Event to a Fact, rather than just when you quit the person (or ..), it might be better - but I can see that even programming in those changes would take time. >lots of requests for new features, new reports, or ways to make things >better. Most of those requests do not come from this BK mailing list, >so you only see a few of them. It would be interesting to see here the list of requests! > >I appreciate the suggestions, it helps make the program better. Your >suggestion is on my list. (-: > >John Steed > John G. [] -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf The early worm gets the bird. _______________________________________________ Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/bk@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
In message <000001d4ace6$292baa10$7b82fe30$@yahoo.com>, Jim Dell2 via BK <bk@rootsweb.com> writes: >The biggest request I bet he gets is for DWIT. > >Jim What's DWIT? > >-----Original Message----- >From: J. P. Gilliver (John) [mailto:G6JPG-255@255soft.uk] >Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 10:10 AM >To: bk@rootsweb.com >Subject: [BK] Re: changing event type loses source: why? > >In message ><BN7PR02MB5092100EF987843D4A256C3791810@BN7PR02MB5092.namprd02.prod.outlo >ok.com>, John Steed <brothers_keeper@msn.com> writes: >>To J P Gilliver >> >>It is complicated to program a way to move the source and event notes, >>from an Event to a Fact. > >I hadn't realised it only occurred for that transition - such as, as I >had, from Ordination to Occupation. Presumably changing between >born/baptised/buried wouldn't invoke that popup. >> >>The source needs to be changed to point to a different record number in >>a different file, and some other things need to be changed also. >> >>Yes, I can program it if you give me enough time. >> >>I try to think of how common the problem is for users, and if it is a >>common problem, I spend the time to make a solution. If it is a rare >>problem for users, then I spend my time working on other things. I get > >I can't say. I don't think I encounter it _that_ often. Perhaps (a) if >the popup said something like "save your source first" rather than "the >source IS going to be lost", and (b) it were to pop up as soon as you >change an Event to a Fact, rather than just when you quit the person (or >..), it might be better - but I can see that even programming in those >changes would take time. > >>lots of requests for new features, new reports, or ways to make things >>better. Most of those requests do not come from this BK mailing list, >>so you only see a few of them. > >It would be interesting to see here the list of requests! >> >>I appreciate the suggestions, it helps make the program better. Your >>suggestion is on my list. > >(-: >> >>John Steed >> >John G. >[] How about a three-way referendum, allowing second choices? -- Are petitions unfair? See 255soft.uk (YOUR VOTE COUNTS)! [Pass it on.] -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf (please reply to group - they also serve who only look and lurk) (William Allen, 1999 - after Milton, of course)
Do What I Think In other words ESP;-) -----Original Message----- From: J. P. Gilliver (John) [mailto:G6JPG-255@255soft.uk] Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2019 10:16 AM To: bk@rootsweb.com Subject: [BK] Re: changing event type loses source: why? In message <000001d4ace6$292baa10$7b82fe30$@yahoo.com>, Jim Dell2 via BK <bk@rootsweb.com> writes: >The biggest request I bet he gets is for DWIT. > >Jim What's DWIT? > >-----Original Message----- >From: J. P. Gilliver (John) [mailto:G6JPG-255@255soft.uk] >Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 10:10 AM >To: bk@rootsweb.com >Subject: [BK] Re: changing event type loses source: why? > >In message ><BN7PR02MB5092100EF987843D4A256C3791810@BN7PR02MB5092.namprd02.prod.outlo >ok.com>, John Steed <brothers_keeper@msn.com> writes: >>To J P Gilliver >> >>It is complicated to program a way to move the source and event notes, >>from an Event to a Fact. > >I hadn't realised it only occurred for that transition - such as, as I >had, from Ordination to Occupation. Presumably changing between >born/baptised/buried wouldn't invoke that popup. >> >>The source needs to be changed to point to a different record number in >>a different file, and some other things need to be changed also. >> >>Yes, I can program it if you give me enough time. >> >>I try to think of how common the problem is for users, and if it is a >>common problem, I spend the time to make a solution. If it is a rare >>problem for users, then I spend my time working on other things. I get > >I can't say. I don't think I encounter it _that_ often. Perhaps (a) if >the popup said something like "save your source first" rather than "the >source IS going to be lost", and (b) it were to pop up as soon as you >change an Event to a Fact, rather than just when you quit the person (or >..), it might be better - but I can see that even programming in those >changes would take time. > >>lots of requests for new features, new reports, or ways to make things >>better. Most of those requests do not come from this BK mailing list, >>so you only see a few of them. > >It would be interesting to see here the list of requests! >> >>I appreciate the suggestions, it helps make the program better. Your >>suggestion is on my list. > >(-: >> >>John Steed >> >John G. >[] How about a three-way referendum, allowing second choices? -- Are petitions unfair? See 255soft.uk (YOUR VOTE COUNTS)! [Pass it on.] -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf (please reply to group - they also serve who only look and lurk) (William Allen, 1999 - after Milton, of course) _______________________________________________ Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/bk@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community