For Proxy marriage laws in the US: Double Proxy Marriages - Montana is the only state where Double Proxy Marriages can be performed, and while there are no residency requirements, Montana law demands that one member of the couple must be active in the military. Two designated proxies attend the ceremony to stand in for the bride and groom and the official marriage certificates are then mailed to the married couple. Single Proxy Marriages - In a proxy marriage ceremony, one member of the couple attends while a proxy stands in for the absent party. There are only a handful of US states where proxy ceremonies can be legally performed – though once obtained, the marriage certificate will be honored in all states. While there are no residency requirements, one member of the couple must travel to the state to appear in front of a civil authority. Only four states allow for proxy marriages - California, Colorado, Texas, and Montana. The majority of them are either military marriages (while one of the couple is deployed or stationed overseas) or "foreign" marriages (where a US Citizen marries someone from another country - given that the country doesn't ban such marriages). As a "for instance", Israeli couples who marry by proxy are marrying through mail-in marriages in Paraguay! Whodathunkit?!?!?! Because not all states allow Same-sex marriages, the only alternative is Single Proxy, performed in a state where such marriages are legal. One partner must attend in a state where such marriages are allowed. >From a quick googling... Jared > In message <[email protected]>, Roy Marriott via > <[email protected]> writes: >>"not uncommon"??? Really? I would think it would actually be _rare_ for >>a marriage to be performed without the two participants/betrothed being >>together. It seems like that would be good reason for a note in your >>database explaining the situation. >>Regards, >>Roy Marriott >> >> >>On 5/4/2015 5:42 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) via wrote: >>> I gather it is not uncommon these days for marriages to be performed >>> over the internet; even before the internet, I believe they were >>> sometimes carried out over the telephone or similar, though that was >>> much rarer. > [] > OK, I was guilty of using a colloquialism; obviously it is still very > much the exception. What I meant was, it's now known, and commoner > (since the advent of Skype and similar) than it once was (I have vague > memories of hearing of it done by radio, or similar, when one party is > on something like an Antarctic base or something). > > Someone in soc.genealogy.britain where I also asked (I would have > crossposted but I don't think you can with a mailing list) says "No > jurisdiction in the UK allows proxy marriages but will recognise a > foreign one if it was valid in the jurisdiction(s) in which it occurred > and the parties were not otherwise disqualified under ENG, SCT or NIR > law." > > I've seen it done in USA, but only in TV drama, which may not be > correct. > -- > J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)[email protected]+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf > > All that glitters has a high refractive index. > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------ Jared "Jed" Handspicker Usque Saeculis Vigilem

In message <[email protected]>, Jared Handspicker <[email protected]> writes: >For Proxy marriage laws in the US: > >Double Proxy Marriages - Montana is the only state where Double Proxy [] >Single Proxy Marriages - In a proxy marriage ceremony, one member of the >couple attends while a proxy stands in for the absent party. > >There are only a handful of US states where proxy ceremonies can be [] >Only four states allow for proxy marriages - California, Colorado, Texas, >and Montana. The majority of them are either military marriages (while one [] I didn't mean a proxy where someone "stands in" for one (or both! that hadn't occurred to me!) party/ies; I meant one where the remote party is in audio - and, these days, video - contact, so there is no need for a proxy to say the "I do" for them; and where both ends are in a room (rooms) where there are sufficient local dignitaries present that any reasonable suspicion of either subterfuge or coercion can be discounted. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)[email protected]+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf All that glitters has a high refractive index.