For non Genealogist it is always a problem. For people that have been doing genealogy for while I have never had a problem. For the non-genealogist, if they ask I tell them it means before or in the case of AFT after. Jim -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Roy Marriott via Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 9:27 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [BK] How do you (discussion, not enquiry) express dates with the BEF(ore) tag? When using "CIR," "BEF," "AFT" I try to be as precise as the information in my source(s), which is what I think you are saying in your comment. Sometimes I can deduce something from a combination of sources, though I can't think of an example right now, and try to document my reasoning. Unfortunately, I may not have always been as careful. I understand and share your concern that there can be a potential for the reader to infer a false accuracy with such precise dates. In some cases the source information can help explain how the specificity of the date came about. For example the obituary of person "A" can provide an "AFT" date for the death of person "B" who survived person "A", but there is no way from that source to determine by how _much_ after. It could be a day after (hence the reason to include the known precision), or it could be several years after. I try not to make assumptions, even though I'm sure that I have done so in the past. Do you (or do other BKers) use the "Note square" to identify limitations, qualifying information, or reasoning to support the "BEF"? Roy Marriott On 3/26/2015 7:47 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) via wrote: > There are times when I know something happened before a date: I > sometimes wonder how precise I should be with the date. For example, > say someone is known, on a specific date, to be a widow(er): > obviously, the DOD of the spouse is BEF(ore) that date. But do I say BEF ddmmyyyy? > That's strictly _correct_, and on the whole is what I do, but some > people seeing it might think it means they died quite close to it. > > I was just wondering how others express the date when they use BEEF. > > (Side idle thought: when the husband dies first, the wife is widowed, > becoming a widow. When the wife dies first, the husband becomes a > widower - so is he widowed, or widowered?) Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message