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    1. Re: [BK] New Event - Transit?
    2. Roy Marriott via
    3. For my two cents I would vote with Max. A note could be specific and flexible. If you prefer a named event, I would consider Jared's suggestion for "visited." If the place-to-place movement was because of military orders, you could use "stationed," but if the person was accompanied by family... well... I'll go back to Max's suggestion. In that case the person is "stationed" by virtue of military orders, but other members of the family are not "stationed" somewhere, and neither are they "visiting." If you are tracking a person or family's movement(s) as part of their history, a note seems to be the most flexible. Otherwise you might need these and more: "Visited" "Stationed" "Stationed (family)" "Vacationed" "Transit" I'm not familiar with gedcom conversions. Does a gedcom export turn a custom event into an event named "Event" or does it keep the custom name? Regards, Roy Marriott On 3/20/2015 6:20 AM, Max van Dam via wrote: > I follow a little bit the discussion about transit/visits/traveling and so > on. > > To my opinion is the best solution to make a note for that person and not a > new event. > In a note you can write what you found about that person. That gives a > maximum on flexibility. > > With my best regards, > > Max van Dam > Rechovoth > Israel > > http://www.maxvandam.info/ > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > J. P. Gilliver (John) via > Sent: 20 March 2015 09:10 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [BK] New Event - Transit? > > In message <[email protected]>, Bill Webster > via <[email protected]> writes: > [] >> I remain convinced that this shipping is an EVENT or fact. I could >> name the event "Shipping", but if they were crossing the Canada/US >> border by train or carriage or, more recently, travelling by air, >> Shipping sort-of applies but not accurately. In all cases, these > (For what it's worth, "shipping" has for some time covered transport by > assorted means - certainly more than just ships - for many years, at least > for goods; "shipping charges" equates to "postage" [or "P&P"] or > "carriage".) > >> people were "in transit". Sometimes they were emigrating and other >> times not. > [] >> I still don't quite like the term "Transit" but for the time being it >> is the best I can think of. > [] > Travel(ling)? Journey? [Where appropriate] leaving or arriving? > Visiting? > -- > J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)[email protected]+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf > > I hate people who quote Shakespeare at you but are proud that they can't add > up. Stupid People. - Carol Vorderman (Radio Times, 1-7 March 2003) Remember > - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    03/20/2015 03:23:49
    1. Re: [BK] New Event - Transit?
    2. Jared Handspicker via
    3. Roy, et al, Rather than "Stationed" there is already a "Military" event that I sometimes use for that purpose. I use Event far less often than I probably should, as I prefer to use the individual notes. Flows better as a narrative when I generate reports, and if not in the notes, and only listed as Event, I have to remember to select all used Events when I AM generating a report. Just my "style," I suppose. :-) Jared > > For my two cents I would vote with Max. A note could be specific and > flexible. If you prefer a named event, I would consider Jared's > suggestion for "visited." If the place-to-place movement was because of > military orders, you could use "stationed," but if the person was > accompanied by family... well... I'll go back to Max's suggestion. In > that case the person is "stationed" by virtue of military orders, but > other members of the family are not "stationed" somewhere, and neither > are they "visiting." If you are tracking a person or family's > movement(s) as part of their history, a note seems to be the most > flexible. Otherwise you might need these and more: > "Visited" > "Stationed" > "Stationed (family)" > "Vacationed" > "Transit" > > I'm not familiar with gedcom conversions. Does a gedcom export turn a > custom event into an event named "Event" or does it keep the custom name? > > Regards, > Roy Marriott > > > > > On 3/20/2015 6:20 AM, Max van Dam via wrote: >> I follow a little bit the discussion about transit/visits/traveling and >> so >> on. >> >> To my opinion is the best solution to make a note for that person and >> not a >> new event. >> In a note you can write what you found about that person. That gives a >> maximum on flexibility. >> >> With my best regards, >> >> Max van Dam >> Rechovoth >> Israel >> >> http://www.maxvandam.info/ >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >> Of >> J. P. Gilliver (John) via >> Sent: 20 March 2015 09:10 >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [BK] New Event - Transit? >> >> In message <[email protected]>, Bill >> Webster >> via <[email protected]> writes: >> [] >>> I remain convinced that this shipping is an EVENT or fact. I could >>> name the event "Shipping", but if they were crossing the Canada/US >>> border by train or carriage or, more recently, travelling by air, >>> Shipping sort-of applies but not accurately. In all cases, these >> (For what it's worth, "shipping" has for some time covered transport by >> assorted means - certainly more than just ships - for many years, at >> least >> for goods; "shipping charges" equates to "postage" [or "P&P"] or >> "carriage".) >> >>> people were "in transit". Sometimes they were emigrating and other >>> times not. >> [] >>> I still don't quite like the term "Transit" but for the time being it >>> is the best I can think of. >> [] >> Travel(ling)? Journey? [Where appropriate] leaving or arriving? >> Visiting? >> -- >> J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)[email protected]+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf >> >> I hate people who quote Shakespeare at you but are proud that they can't >> add >> up. Stupid People. - Carol Vorderman (Radio Times, 1-7 March 2003) >> Remember >> - Use the Archives at >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in >> the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> Remember - Use the Archives at >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------ Jared "Jed" Handspicker Usque Saeculis Vigilem

    03/20/2015 03:51:39
    1. Re: [BK] New Event - Transit?
    2. Bill Webster via
    3. I am appreciating everyone's responses on how they use BK and in particular the Events vs Notes debate. Also I had not considered the Gedcom implications; thanks Roy. Does anyone have a response about Gedcom and the creation of custom events? But generally, do the respondents advocating making notes also do that for census findings? "Census" is an accepted Event/Fact. Also in Gedcom? If you are lucky enough to be able to show a sequence of census recordings, these can paint a picture of a family's births and removals over time, ages, professions, where born, how many children, how long married and the like. Where you have people living or stationed in the countries I have listed, where we cannot always cite census information, this shipping information acts, as I have said, as a sort of census substitute - a person or family at a moment in time. For example, I have been recording passenger information into England. In the pro forma, recorded are name, age, intended place of residence in the UK, nationality, intended future place of permanent residence. It also records if the person is travelling with husband or wife, or as an individual. Also of course it records where embarked and disembarked (the ship may have sailed from Melbourne but the passenger embarked en route at, say, Colombo). If it is a family travelling, it either names the children or lists the number of children by sex. In the absence of census information, the above shipping information is gold. Bill -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Roy Marriott via Sent: Saturday, 21 March 2015 12:24 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BK] New Event - Transit? For my two cents I would vote with Max. A note could be specific and flexible. If you prefer a named event, I would consider Jared's suggestion for "visited." If the place-to-place movement was because of military orders, you could use "stationed," but if the person was accompanied by family... well... I'll go back to Max's suggestion. In that case the person is "stationed" by virtue of military orders, but other members of the family are not "stationed" somewhere, and neither are they "visiting." If you are tracking a person or family's movement(s) as part of their history, a note seems to be the most flexible. Otherwise you might need these and more: "Visited" "Stationed" "Stationed (family)" "Vacationed" "Transit" I'm not familiar with gedcom conversions. Does a gedcom export turn a custom event into an event named "Event" or does it keep the custom name? Regards, Roy Marriott On 3/20/2015 6:20 AM, Max van Dam via wrote: > I follow a little bit the discussion about transit/visits/traveling > and so on. > > To my opinion is the best solution to make a note for that person and > not a new event. > In a note you can write what you found about that person. That gives a > maximum on flexibility. > > With my best regards, > > Max van Dam > Rechovoth > Israel > > http://www.maxvandam.info/ > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of J. P. Gilliver (John) via > Sent: 20 March 2015 09:10 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [BK] New Event - Transit? > > In message <[email protected]>, Bill > Webster via <[email protected]> writes: > [] >> I remain convinced that this shipping is an EVENT or fact. I could >> name the event "Shipping", but if they were crossing the Canada/US >> border by train or carriage or, more recently, travelling by air, >> Shipping sort-of applies but not accurately. In all cases, these > (For what it's worth, "shipping" has for some time covered transport > by assorted means - certainly more than just ships - for many years, > at least for goods; "shipping charges" equates to "postage" [or "P&P"] > or > "carriage".) > >> people were "in transit". Sometimes they were emigrating and other >> times not. > [] >> I still don't quite like the term "Transit" but for the time being it >> is the best I can think of. > [] > Travel(ling)? Journey? [Where appropriate] leaving or arriving? > Visiting? > -- > J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 > MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)[email protected]+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf > > I hate people who quote Shakespeare at you but are proud that they > can't add up. Stupid People. - Carol Vorderman (Radio Times, 1-7 March > 2003) Remember > - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    03/21/2015 12:51:13