Hi list, I don't think the discussion was about the definition of BEF. I thought the thread was begun to have a brief discussion of the precision of the dates used with BEF, AFT, etc. My input was that I use the precision that is directly provided by my source(s). Perhaps my response was a bit too wordy. :-( Regards, Roy On 3/26/2015 9:47 PM, Jim Dell wrote: > For non Genealogist it is always a problem. For people that have been doing > genealogy for while I have never had a problem. > For the non-genealogist, if they ask I tell them it means before or in the > case of AFT after. > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Roy Marriott via > Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 9:27 PM > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [BK] How do you (discussion, not enquiry) express dates with > the BEF(ore) tag? > > > When using "CIR," "BEF," "AFT" I try to be as precise as the information in > my source(s), which is what I think you are saying in your comment. > Sometimes I can deduce something from a combination of sources, though I > can't think of an example right now, and try to document my reasoning. > Unfortunately, I may not have always been as careful. > > I understand and share your concern that there can be a potential for the > reader to infer a false accuracy with such precise dates. In some cases the > source information can help explain how the specificity of the date came > about. For example the obituary of person "A" can provide an "AFT" date for > the death of person "B" who survived person "A", but there is no way from > that source to determine by how _much_ after. It could be a day after (hence > the reason to include the known precision), or it could be several years > after. I try not to make assumptions, even though I'm sure that I have done > so in the past. > > Do you (or do other BKers) use the "Note square" to identify limitations, > qualifying information, or reasoning to support the "BEF"? > > Roy Marriott > > > On 3/26/2015 7:47 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) via wrote: >> There are times when I know something happened before a date: I >> sometimes wonder how precise I should be with the date. For example, >> say someone is known, on a specific date, to be a widow(er): >> obviously, the DOD of the spouse is BEF(ore) that date. But do I say BEF > ddmmyyyy? >> That's strictly _correct_, and on the whole is what I do, but some >> people seeing it might think it means they died quite close to it. >> >> I was just wondering how others express the date when they use BEEF. >> >> (Side idle thought: when the husband dies first, the wife is widowed, >> becoming a widow. When the wife dies first, the husband becomes a >> widower - so is he widowed, or widowered?) > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > >