Have any readers here uploaded a BK gedcom to WikiTree? I'd be interested in your opinion of WikiTree and your experience of uploading and editing that upload - and how much information you decided to upload, or not. I have been to a couple of lectures recently where very experienced genealogists have uploaded just names, dates of bdms, and places of those bdms. Some have uploaded just their direct lines, no cousins etc. Others with strong interests in DNA have supplied more names, I think. Bill

I manually entered a couple of entries to try it out, after reading their goals and site information, I definitely got the feeling that they strongly discourage anyone from adding more than a handful of very carefully documented entries by any one person with that person taking very proactive position regarding the people they enter. We oldtimers have always considered the concept of an "absolutely true" and non-conflicting database as some kind of "gold standard", and the wiki model does seem appropriate to try to construct it. Several decades ago, there was also feeling that the LDS model could be used. But the existing "comparison of conflicting information" method that most systems use today is probably more useful in the long run. Perhaps I'm a bit too cynical. but I can't help but believe that the only person who comes close to "absolute genealogical truth" is the mother, and even when she is not trying to intentionally hide anything, even she has to guess every so often! Paul J. Lareau On 7/24/2015 2:42 AM, Bill Webster via wrote: > Have any readers here uploaded a BK gedcom to WikiTree? > > I'd be interested in your opinion of WikiTree and your experience of uploading and editing that upload - and how much information you decided to upload, or not. > > I have been to a couple of lectures recently where very experienced genealogists have uploaded just names, dates of bdms, and places of those bdms. > > Some have uploaded just their direct lines, no cousins etc. Others with strong interests in DNA have supplied more names, I think. > > Bill > > > Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

On Fri, 24 Jul 2015 17:42:01 +1000, Bill Webster via <[email protected]> wrote: >Have any readers here uploaded a BK gedcom to WikiTree? > >I'd be interested in your opinion of WikiTree and your experience of uploading and editing that upload - and how much information you decided to upload, or not. > >I have been to a couple of lectures recently where very experienced genealogists have uploaded just names, dates of bdms, and places of those bdms. > >Some have uploaded just their direct lines, no cousins etc. Others with strong interests in DNA have supplied more names, I think. > I believe most Norwegian use http://www.norwaydna.no/en/ -- Otto Jørgensen http://home.online.no/~otjoerge/ All email is checked by NIS2014

I've uploaded several batches. I don't like the way they display the results. WorldConnect at www.rootsweb.com does a much better job with the same input. I really dislike the way they insist on exact birth and death dates for every individual - the import strips out any other date format that was in the gedcom. I restrict the information I provide to birth, marriage/divorce, death, and census. Most "matches" are spurious. They propose that my Jane Anne Doe, born in Illinois to named parents, is a match for Jane Marie Doe, born in New Zealand to completely different parents... But for some reason, it's the currently popular place for people new to genealogy to hunt for relatives. I've had several inquiries. Posts are permanent. You can't reload a gedcom a year later to reflect additions to your work - have to re-do each indiviual. Marsha L. Ensminger [email protected] ________________________________ From: Bill Webster via <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 12:42 AM Subject: [BK] WikiTree gedcom Have any readers here uploaded a BK gedcom to WikiTree? I'd be interested in your opinion of WikiTree and your experience of uploading and editing that upload - and how much information you decided to upload, or not. I have been to a couple of lectures recently where very experienced genealogists have uploaded just names, dates of bdms, and places of those bdms. Some have uploaded just their direct lines, no cousins etc. Others with strong interests in DNA have supplied more names, I think. Bill Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I agree with Marsha...too cumbersome and lack of control. Rootsweb World Connect much better. Fran L Sent from my iPad > On Jul 24, 2015, at 11:56 AM, Marsha Ensminger via <[email protected]> wrote: > > I've uploaded several batches. > > I don't like the way they display the results. WorldConnect at www.rootsweb.com does a much better job with the same input. > > I really dislike the way they insist on exact birth and death dates for every individual - the import strips out any other date format that was in the gedcom. I restrict the information I provide to birth, marriage/divorce, death, and census. > > Most "matches" are spurious. They propose that my Jane Anne Doe, born in Illinois to named parents, is a match for Jane Marie Doe, born in New Zealand to completely different parents... > > But for some reason, it's the currently popular place for people new to genealogy to hunt for relatives. I've had several inquiries. > > Posts are permanent. You can't reload a gedcom a year later to reflect additions to your work - have to re-do each indiviual. > > > Marsha L. Ensminger > [email protected] > > > > ________________________________ > From: Bill Webster via <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 12:42 AM > Subject: [BK] WikiTree gedcom > > > Have any readers here uploaded a BK gedcom to WikiTree? > > I'd be interested in your opinion of WikiTree and your experience of uploading and editing that upload - and how much information you decided to upload, or not. > > I have been to a couple of lectures recently where very experienced genealogists have uploaded just names, dates of bdms, and places of those bdms. > > Some have uploaded just their direct lines, no cousins etc. Others with strong interests in DNA have supplied more names, I think. > > Bill > > > Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Fran, Cumbersome yes but what control are you lacking? Andreas > On 25 Jul 2015, at 01:08, Frances LaChance via <[email protected]> wrote: > > I agree with Marsha...too cumbersome and lack of control. Rootsweb World Connect much better. > > Fran L > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Jul 24, 2015, at 11:56 AM, Marsha Ensminger via <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I've uploaded several batches. >> >> I don't like the way they display the results. WorldConnect at www.rootsweb.com does a much better job with the same input. >> >> I really dislike the way they insist on exact birth and death dates for every individual - the import strips out any other date format that was in the gedcom. I restrict the information I provide to birth, marriage/divorce, death, and census. >> >> Most "matches" are spurious. They propose that my Jane Anne Doe, born in Illinois to named parents, is a match for Jane Marie Doe, born in New Zealand to completely different parents... >> >> But for some reason, it's the currently popular place for people new to genealogy to hunt for relatives. I've had several inquiries. >> >> Posts are permanent. You can't reload a gedcom a year later to reflect additions to your work - have to re-do each indiviual. >> >> >> Marsha L. Ensminger >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Bill Webster via <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 12:42 AM >> Subject: [BK] WikiTree gedcom >> >> >> Have any readers here uploaded a BK gedcom to WikiTree? >> >> I'd be interested in your opinion of WikiTree and your experience of uploading and editing that upload - and how much information you decided to upload, or not. >> >> I have been to a couple of lectures recently where very experienced genealogists have uploaded just names, dates of bdms, and places of those bdms. >> >> Some have uploaded just their direct lines, no cousins etc. Others with strong interests in DNA have supplied more names, I think. >> >> Bill >> >> >> Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Marsha, Those things you don't like are necessary to keep the principle of one person = one profile and avoid duplicates all over the database. I agree with you on the DOB part but the matching algorithm needs to check on one date field for birth/baptism and an algorithm needs to be precise to create a match. It usually doesn't work fuzzy like Google and Siri can understand. Hence your Ms Doe is a match. Irregardless of her second Christian name. As to representation it comes to personal taste but remember that World Connect isn't a database where you connect with others and Ancestry has closed down a lot of Rootsweb projects already that didn't bring in money. WorldConnecf might be next to be killed and your tree is gone. Andreas > On 24 Jul 2015, at 22:48, Marsha Ensminger via <[email protected]> wrote: > > I've uploaded several batches. > > I don't like the way they display the results. WorldConnect at www.rootsweb.com does a much better job with the same input. > > I really dislike the way they insist on exact birth and death dates for every individual - the import strips out any other date format that was in the gedcom. I restrict the information I provide to birth, marriage/divorce, death, and census. > > Most "matches" are spurious. They propose that my Jane Anne Doe, born in Illinois to named parents, is a match for Jane Marie Doe, born in New Zealand to completely different parents... > > But for some reason, it's the currently popular place for people new to genealogy to hunt for relatives. I've had several inquiries. > > Posts are permanent. You can't reload a gedcom a year later to reflect additions to your work - have to re-do each indiviual. > > > Marsha L. Ensminger > [email protected] > > > > ________________________________ > From: Bill Webster via <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 12:42 AM > Subject: [BK] WikiTree gedcom > > > Have any readers here uploaded a BK gedcom to WikiTree? > > I'd be interested in your opinion of WikiTree and your experience of uploading and editing that upload - and how much information you decided to upload, or not. > > I have been to a couple of lectures recently where very experienced genealogists have uploaded just names, dates of bdms, and places of those bdms. > > Some have uploaded just their direct lines, no cousins etc. Others with strong interests in DNA have supplied more names, I think. > > Bill > > > Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message