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    1. Re: [BK] Names
    2. Andrew Jackett via

    3. To John Steed and Sue Horsman To go into more detail, I am wondering whether Prefix, First name, Birth or Maiden name, Married name and Suffix could be fields that could be possible to record in for all listed people. This would make for a lot of wastage in fields I know, but it would format details for birthday and anniversary lists a lot better. You could have a rule set up Yes or No to having wife's Married name assumed from husband's Last name in which case if you answered Yes to this it would assume the Last name when there was only one principal husband without a Married name being recorded. Another rule could be Yes or No to display formatted last names for women in Book Reports. Another rule could be show Married name for males (Y/N) where their married name might be different from their Birth name. A set of options might be offered for the treatment of the Last name for married women so that special local customs can be catered for. I know that the more options you have, the boggier the list of rules and exceptions needs to be and the slower the overall searching of names and indexing becomes. I can understand why BK has stuck with a simpler method of recording that aspect up until now. What do other people think about such things? Andrew. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Jackett via" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; "S Horsman" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 09, 2015 4:35 AM Subject: [BK] Names > To John Steed and Sue Horsman > > I like Sue's idea as it has a lot of relevance in genealogy hierarchy many > countries use but instead of just having a list of possible names for > Prefix, First name, Last name, Suffix, have a set of fields for women (and > possibly men could have a split option too) for Prefix, First name, Maiden > name, Married name, Suffix. In New Zealand and in similar countries, > Maiden name seems to stay the same throughout life but Married name > (including former Married name and last used Married name) can go through > a number of changes in a lifetime and would be different to Maiden name in > many instances (what would normally go in the Last name field). Food for > thought perhaps. > > Andrew Jackett of New Zealand > [email protected] > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

    02/08/2015 11:00:32
    1. Re: [BK] Names

    3. I don't have a problem with the current way. For women, I usually use only the maiden name, if I know it. If I don't know it, I use First Name, Married name, nee ---. That way she does have a surname, and I can easily find her if I eventually discover her maiden name. Sometimes I will use First Name, Married Name, Married Name, nee Maiden Name -- adding as many married names as needed. But since her husbands are listed on her Edit page, I can easily find all the married names. Mona [email protected] Our Family -- http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monajo/ My Database – http://wc.rootsweb.com/~monahouser On 02/08/2015 11:00 AM, Andrew Jackett via wrote: > To John Steed and Sue Horsman > > To go into more detail, I am wondering whether Prefix, First name, Birth or > Maiden name, Married name and Suffix could be fields that could be possible > to record in for all listed people. This would make for a lot of wastage in > fields I know, but it would format details for birthday and anniversary > lists a lot better. You could have a rule set up Yes or No to having wife's > Married name assumed from husband's Last name in which case if you answered > Yes to this it would assume the Last name when there was only one principal > husband without a Married name being recorded. Another rule could be Yes or > No to display formatted last names for women in Book Reports. Another rule > could be show Married name for males (Y/N) where their married name might be > different from their Birth name. A set of options might be offered for the > treatment of the Last name for married women so that special local customs > can be catered for. > > I know that the more options you have, the boggier the list of rules and > exceptions needs to be and the slower the overall searching of names and > indexing becomes. I can understand why BK has stuck with a simpler method > of recording that aspect up until now. What do other people think about > such things? > > Andrew. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andrew Jackett via" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>; "S Horsman" <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, February 09, 2015 4:35 AM > Subject: [BK] Names > > >> To John Steed and Sue Horsman >> >> I like Sue's idea as it has a lot of relevance in genealogy hierarchy many >> countries use but instead of just having a list of possible names for >> Prefix, First name, Last name, Suffix, have a set of fields for women (and >> possibly men could have a split option too) for Prefix, First name, Maiden >> name, Married name, Suffix. In New Zealand and in similar countries, >> Maiden name seems to stay the same throughout life but Married name >> (including former Married name and last used Married name) can go through >> a number of changes in a lifetime and would be different to Maiden name in >> many instances (what would normally go in the Last name field). Food for >> thought perhaps. >> >> Andrew Jackett of New Zealand >> [email protected] >> Remember - Use the Archives at >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message > > Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    02/08/2015 06:25:50
    1. Re: [BK] Names
    2. John Steed via

    3. To Andrew Jackett If most women keep there maiden names, then set that option under File, Options, Other. So you can set up the majority to compute automatically the way you want. For those that do not follow your normal rule, go to Names and enter their Married Name. I like to keep it simple. John Steed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Jackett via" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; "S Horsman" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [BK] Names > To John Steed and Sue Horsman > > To go into more detail, I am wondering whether Prefix, First name, Birth > or > Maiden name, Married name and Suffix could be fields that could be > possible > to record in for all listed people. This would make for a lot of wastage > in > fields I know, but it would format details for birthday and anniversary > lists a lot better. You could have a rule set up Yes or No to having > wife's > Married name assumed from husband's Last name in which case if you > answered > Yes to this it would assume the Last name when there was only one > principal > husband without a Married name being recorded. Another rule could be Yes > or > No to display formatted last names for women in Book Reports. Another > rule > could be show Married name for males (Y/N) where their married name might > be > different from their Birth name. A set of options might be offered for > the > treatment of the Last name for married women so that special local customs > can be catered for. > > I know that the more options you have, the boggier the list of rules and > exceptions needs to be and the slower the overall searching of names and > indexing becomes. I can understand why BK has stuck with a simpler method > of recording that aspect up until now. What do other people think about > such things? > > Andrew. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andrew Jackett via" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>; "S Horsman" <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, February 09, 2015 4:35 AM > Subject: [BK] Names > > >> To John Steed and Sue Horsman >> >> I like Sue's idea as it has a lot of relevance in genealogy hierarchy >> many >> countries use but instead of just having a list of possible names for >> Prefix, First name, Last name, Suffix, have a set of fields for women >> (and >> possibly men could have a split option too) for Prefix, First name, >> Maiden >> name, Married name, Suffix. In New Zealand and in similar countries, >> Maiden name seems to stay the same throughout life but Married name >> (including former Married name and last used Married name) can go through >> a number of changes in a lifetime and would be different to Maiden name >> in >> many instances (what would normally go in the Last name field). Food for >> thought perhaps. >> >> Andrew Jackett of New Zealand >> [email protected] >> Remember - Use the Archives at >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message > > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >

    02/11/2015 12:31:14