I would enter the name as it was at the time of the event, and then make note of any subsequent name changes in the Place's Note field . David Youse -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 3:00 AM To: [email protected] Subject: BK Digest, Vol 10, Issue 128 To all Digest receivers: There are two forms of the "Digest" differing in appearance. The default is "Plain" and the other choice is "MIME" - if you would like to try the other view send a private message to me at [email protected] Today's Topics: 1. I can dream: something for BK version 10 ... place histories (J. P. Gilliver (John)) 2. Re: I can dream: something for BK version 10 ... place histories (Otto J?rgensen) 3. Re: I can dream: something for BK version 10 ... place histories (Heiko Ahlers) 4. Re: I can dream: something for BK version 10 ... place histories (Otto J?rgensen) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 11:55:24 +0100 From: "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <[email protected]> Subject: [BK] I can dream: something for BK version 10 ... place histories To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed Would need the ability to enter place histories, though. A huge change! I'm using BK in the year 2045. I enter someone born say in 1950; I start to enter Newc, and select "Newcastle, Northumberland, England" from the choices that pop up. I enter their death in 2010. I select "same as above" for the location, and "Newcastle, Tyne & Wear, England" appears ... Similarly for places that change name rather than county (or country!): wasn't Brighton called Brighthelmstone at one point? And Aachen used to be Aix-la-chapelle, of course. It would avoid all the angst about how to enter placenames that have different names and details over history, but are the same place, if the prog. itself could be told about the changes (what and when), and automatically show the correct one for the event being entered. Well, I can dream, can't I - it won't be our concern (-:! -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)[email protected]+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf It's an artist's duty to bite the hand that feeds him... but not too hard. Grayson Perry, interviewed in Radio Times 12-18 October 2013 ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 19:50:20 +0200 From: Otto J?rgensen <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [BK] I can dream: something for BK version 10 ... place histories To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sat, 20 Jun 2015 11:55:24 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John) via" <[email protected]> wrote: >Would need the ability to enter place histories, though. A huge change! > >I'm using BK in the year 2045. I enter someone born say in 1950; I start >to enter Newc, and select "Newcastle, Northumberland, England" from the >choices that pop up. > >I enter their death in 2010. I select "same as above" for the location, >and "Newcastle, Tyne & Wear, England" appears ... > >Similarly for places that change name rather than county (or country!): >wasn't Brighton called Brighthelmstone at one point? And Aachen used to >be Aix-la-chapelle, of course. > >It would avoid all the angst about how to enter placenames that have >different names and details over history, but are the same place, if the >prog. itself could be told about the changes (what and when), and >automatically show the correct one for the event being entered. > >Well, I can dream, can't I - it won't be our concern (-:! Change of name and history to the location has been asked for , in a long time. You can add history f a lolcatikon at the present vesion of BK7, but it does not handle the fact the border of countries and smal and large area are merged during the time of livin.g The capital of Norway, Oslo was previous a litke place and then becomes Kristiania, before it then was renamed Oslo, and the naibouring area become a part of the new Oslo -- Otto J?rgensen http://home.online.no/~otjoerge/ All email is checked by NIS2014 ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 21:29:41 +0200 From: Heiko Ahlers <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [BK] I can dream: something for BK version 10 ... place histories To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Hello all, this might be easily possible if BK could link to some geographical database like GOV. And Aachen never "was" Aix-la-Chapelle, this still is just it's French name, just like Aken is it's Dutch name. The same goes for e.g. Liege which in Dutch is Luik and L?ttich in German. A good place name database could keep track of this. Yours Heiko Am 20.06.2015 um 12:55 schrieb J. P. Gilliver (John) via: > Would need the ability to enter place histories, though. A huge change! > > I'm using BK in the year 2045. I enter someone born say in 1950; I start > to enter Newc, and select "Newcastle, Northumberland, England" from the > choices that pop up. > > I enter their death in 2010. I select "same as above" for the location, > and "Newcastle, Tyne & Wear, England" appears ... > > Similarly for places that change name rather than county (or country!): > wasn't Brighton called Brighthelmstone at one point? And Aachen used to > be Aix-la-chapelle, of course. > > It would avoid all the angst about how to enter placenames that have > different names and details over history, but are the same place, if the > prog. itself could be told about the changes (what and when), and > automatically show the correct one for the event being entered. > > Well, I can dream, can't I - it won't be our concern (-:! ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 21:46:56 +0200 From: Otto J?rgensen <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [BK] I can dream: something for BK version 10 ... place histories To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sat, 20 Jun 2015 21:29:41 +0200, Heiko Ahlers via <[email protected]> wrote: >Hello all, > >this might be easily possible if BK could link to some geographical >database like GOV. > >And Aachen never "was" Aix-la-Chapelle, this still is just it's French >name, just like Aken is it's Dutch name. The same goes for e.g. Liege >which in Dutch is Luik and L?ttich in German. A good place name database >could keep track of this. If one do doujbleclick to the field of location, there are many otion to add more information, I'm not happy with it total, but it is a step forward to what we want her. -- Otto J?rgensen http://home.online.no/~otjoerge/ All email is checked by NIS2014 ------------------------------ To contact the BK list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the BK mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of BK Digest, Vol 10, Issue 128 ***********************************

In message <[email protected]>, David Youse via <[email protected]> writes: >I would enter the name as it was at the time of the event, and then make >note of any subsequent name changes in the Place's Note field . One of the disadvantages of doing that sort of thing is that, if you have events in the same place but at times when it had different names, if you then use the "list places and the events that happened there" function, they will appear in different parts of the list. Less of a problem if you don't use that function and never intend to. [] -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)[email protected]+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Science isn't about being right every time, or even most of the time. It is about being more right over time and fixing what it got wrong. - Scott Adams, 2015-2-2