On possibly a related problem which I have recently encountered (BK 6.5.3): A woman has a child by a "not entered" partner, then later marries a husband and has more children with him. All well and good so far. I then discover a second child from her and the first partner. If I try to add that child to her while the "not entered" partner is showing on the edit screen, then BK in fact adds him to the other family (i.e. gives him the wrong father). There's an easy workaround, which is to add him as a sibling of the first child, but it's annoying that the obvious method fails. Howard On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 10:16:58 -0600 Paul J. Lareau wrote: > This might be related to a similar situation that I have encountered, albeit > very rarely. Apparently, when adding a second marriage to a person who is > already in the database with a different marriage, and coming to the add via > the added spouse, the added marriage data (only very rarely) is duplicated > on both marriages of the "receiving" spouse. > > I have never reported this because I have never actually seen it occur, and > only guessing that this is when it does. All I have ever encountered is > the result where a person with multiple marriages has both marriage dates > and places on one of the marriages, and the one correct marriage date& > place for the other, during some later access. > > If this doesn't make any sense, John, chalk it up to my not being really > sure about what I'm trying to describe, and whether it consistantly occurs. > It could just be the fault of my fat fingers! > > -- > Paul J. Lareau

There has been a problem with NOT ENTERED spouses for a long time. Although I haven't encountered the specific result described below, I have had to use a workaround for as long as I can remember to avoid problems later appearing on Register Reports. Whenever a person has children by multiple spouses, the name of at least one of which is unknown/not entered, I always create the NOT ENTERED spouse as a dummy entry (e.g., I use "_____ _____" ). That way the children will actually be listed in the correct coupling on the printed listings. Actually, that was the way I always did all spouses with unknown names even at the beginning (back in the BK5 years), long before I found out that you could add children to an individual without designating a spouse. Even after I learned you could do that, it seemed a bit illogical to me (kids don't result from individuals, only couples), and was a very late adaptor to that method, and still prefer specifying a dummy name if multiple spouses are indicated. It's easier to keep my head straight especially with the increasing number of his-hers-ours families, even though it is a bit more work. -- Paul J. Lareau Freedom for Imprisoned Books! Don't Chain them to a Dusty Bookshelf. Visit: http://www.bookcrossing.com and my bookshelf at: http://www.bookcrossing.com/mybookshelf/pjlareau - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 135 E. Viking Dr. #301, Little Canada MN 55117 USA - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Howard Slatter" <haslatter@ntlworld.com> To: <bk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 3:01 AM Subject: Re: [BK] Compare two databases possible problem > On possibly a related problem which I have recently encountered (BK > 6.5.3): > > A woman has a child by a "not entered" partner, then later marries a > husband and has more children with him. All well and good so far. I > then discover a second child from her and the first partner. If I try > to add that child to her while the "not entered" partner is showing on > the edit screen, then BK in fact adds him to the other family (i.e. > gives him the wrong father). There's an easy workaround, which is to > add him as a sibling of the first child, but it's annoying that the > obvious method fails. > > Howard > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >

On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 08:36:15 -0600, "Paul J. Lareau" <paul@lareau.org> wrote: >There has been a problem with NOT ENTERED spouses for a long time. >Although I haven't encountered the specific result described below, I have >had to use a workaround for as long as I can remember to avoid problems >later appearing on Register Reports. > >Whenever a person has children by multiple spouses, the name of at least one >of which is unknown/not entered, I always create the NOT ENTERED spouse as a >dummy entry (e.g., I use "_____ _____" ). That way the children will >actually be listed in the correct coupling on the printed listings. > >Actually, that was the way I always did all spouses with unknown names even >at the beginning (back in the BK5 years), long before I found out that you >could add children to an individual without designating a spouse. Even >after I learned you could do that, it seemed a bit illogical to me (kids >don't result from individuals, only couples), and was a very late adaptor to >that method, and still prefer specifying a dummy name if multiple spouses >are indicated. It's easier to keep my head straight especially with the >increasing number of his-hers-ours families, even though it is a bit more >work. If your don't know the partnerpart of parents to a child, you go to the child tab and then you have the father/mother and miss the other part. But when you select add child, this works perfect and the father/mother is added as the correct partner and given the name (not entrered) and there is not generated any nbew BK_number. If you use "N N" or similar each "unknown is given a new BK_number in the database and you will have a lot of "N N" persons. -- Otto Jørgensen http://www.bkwin.info/ All email is checked by NORTON