In message <38C9C724759D49EC8E5952B8B6AAFD0F@adminrujb2nkp7>, Nancy Wright <wright4766@bellsouth.net> writes: >I want to make a copy of my database to make some changes to see how they >look and how I like them. How can I make a copy? I have backed up the >database and hoped I could use that feature and just change the name to >something other than the name of the current database, but I did not see an >option to change the name of the database. > >Nancy W. [] Make a new directory (folder) with a copy of the databases in it, then from BK main menu, either: use File | Open Database (or just Ctrl+O) and type the new folder name in (may have to give full path), or: File | Open list of databases (Alt-f, p), where you can also type in the path to the new folder, or you can (create and) edit a list of such folders. There is also an automatic search for such folders: File | Utilities > Find BK6 database, but that just crashed for me: I have mine on D:, which I pointed it to; it found my database, and carried on searching as one might expect, then popped up a little box that said Path not found, OK, but when I OKd it, BK went back to its main menu and popped up another little box File not found, OK, which when clicked kept reappearing, and I eventually had to crash BK from Task Manager; fortunately it seems not to have damaged the database. So I'd stick to one of the first two methods. Of course, once you have duplicated your database, the two will not be linked. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf If you like making stuff there's always somebody ready to say that its ridiculous. But, actually, I don't think it is. In fact, enthusiasms are good. Hobbies are healthy. They don't harm anybody. - James May in RT, 6-12 November 2010.

Also, you can make another Backup in a different folder and do the same thing. Fran The Future is as Bright as the Promises of God On 15/11/2011 9:48 PM, Nancy Wright wrote: > I want to make a copy of my database to make some changes to see how they > look and how I like them. How can I make a copy? I have backed up the > database and hoped I could use that feature and just change the name to > something other than the name of the current database, but I did not see an > option to change the name of the database. > > Nancy W. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

On your computer, go to where the copy is, right click on it and go to "rename" give it a new name and open in BK. Fran The Future is as Bright as the Promises of God On 15/11/2011 9:48 PM, Nancy Wright wrote: > I want to make a copy of my database to make some changes to see how they > look and how I like them. How can I make a copy? I have backed up the > database and hoped I could use that feature and just change the name to > something other than the name of the current database, but I did not see an > option to change the name of the database. > > Nancy W. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Kay I routinely backup BK to a (1) seperate partition on the BK host computer (same physical hard drive but looks to the computer as a seperate hard drive), (2) to an external hard drive connected to the host computer and to (3) a hard drive on another computer via a network. All seem to work well. I have not had to restore to recover from a failure but I do use the different locations (most typically the external hard drive on the host computer) to place a copy of my data for experimental purposes. I should be that rigorous with all the rest of my data. ----- Original Message ----- From: "N & K Chestnut" <nkopportunity@gorge.net> Subject: Re: [BK] Backup not possible > Could an external hard drive be an acceptable place to send Backups? > > Kay C. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John Steed > To: bk@rootsweb.com > Sent: 2011-11-15 03:04 > Subject: Re: [BK] Backup not possible > > > To Gilles Paquette > > It is possible that the drive is so large, that BK is getting back a > false > number when it checks the free space. (Like an overflow error) > > Have him try making a new backup folder, or else have him backup to a USB > flash drive if possible. > > It is better to make an external backup to a flash drive or CD in case > the > entire hard drive ever fails. > > John Steed > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gilles de C. Paquette" <paquette.gdec@videotron.ca> > To: "BK - RootsWeb" <bk@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 12:35 PM > Subject: [BK] Backup not possible > > > Hi > > A few days ago, a friend started getting an error message when backing > up: the size of the file exceeds th capacity of the disk, file size: > 643578. Free space: 217088. Insert new backup disk or Cancel. > > He is using a registered version of BK6.5.3 on an XP Pro PC with an > internal 1Tb hard hard disk where he stores his backups. Would the fact > that he is writing over the previous backup be significant? > > Any idea? > > Thanks. > > Gilles Paquette > > > > ----- > Aucun virus trouvi dans ce message. > Analyse effectuie par AVG - www.avg.fr > Version: 2012.0.1869 / Base de donnies virale: 2092/4618 - Date: > 15/11/2011 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

I want to make a copy of my database to make some changes to see how they look and how I like them. How can I make a copy? I have backed up the database and hoped I could use that feature and just change the name to something other than the name of the current database, but I did not see an option to change the name of the database. Nancy W.

Could an external hard drive be an acceptable place to send Backups? Kay C. ----- Original Message ----- From: John Steed To: bk@rootsweb.com Sent: 2011-11-15 03:04 Subject: Re: [BK] Backup not possible To Gilles Paquette It is possible that the drive is so large, that BK is getting back a false number when it checks the free space. (Like an overflow error) Have him try making a new backup folder, or else have him backup to a USB flash drive if possible. It is better to make an external backup to a flash drive or CD in case the entire hard drive ever fails. John Steed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gilles de C. Paquette" <paquette.gdec@videotron.ca> To: "BK - RootsWeb" <bk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 12:35 PM Subject: [BK] Backup not possible Hi A few days ago, a friend started getting an error message when backing up: the size of the file exceeds th capacity of the disk, file size: 643578. Free space: 217088. Insert new backup disk or Cancel. He is using a registered version of BK6.5.3 on an XP Pro PC with an internal 1Tb hard hard disk where he stores his backups. Would the fact that he is writing over the previous backup be significant? Any idea? Thanks. Gilles Paquette ----- Aucun virus trouvi dans ce message. Analyse effectuie par AVG - www.avg.fr Version: 2012.0.1869 / Base de donnies virale: 2092/4618 - Date: 15/11/2011 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

To Gilles Paquette It is possible that the drive is so large, that BK is getting back a false number when it checks the free space. (Like an overflow error) Have him try making a new backup folder, or else have him backup to a USB flash drive if possible. It is better to make an external backup to a flash drive or CD in case the entire hard drive ever fails. John Steed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gilles de C. Paquette" <paquette.gdec@videotron.ca> To: "BK - RootsWeb" <bk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 12:35 PM Subject: [BK] Backup not possible Hi A few days ago, a friend started getting an error message when backing up: the size of the file exceeds th capacity of the disk, file size: 643578. Free space: 217088. Insert new backup disk or Cancel. He is using a registered version of BK6.5.3 on an XP Pro PC with an internal 1Tb hard hard disk where he stores his backups. Would the fact that he is writing over the previous backup be significant? Any idea? Thanks. Gilles Paquette ----- Aucun virus trouvé dans ce message. Analyse effectuée par AVG - www.avg.fr Version: 2012.0.1869 / Base de données virale: 2092/4618 - Date: 15/11/2011 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Gilles, Have them reboot, don’t load any programs. Then have them double click on My Computer, then select the c: hard drive and right click, then select properties. Look at the graph and the information, used and free space. I don't think their problem is with BK, but with being out of space for some reason. Have them empty their recycle bin and check again. Also storing you backup on the same hard drive as your live files is a bad practice. What happens if their hard drive goes bad? They lose everything including backups. Jim -----Original Message----- From: bk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Gilles de C. Paquette Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 12:35 PM To: BK - RootsWeb Subject: [BK] Backup not possible Hi A few days ago, a friend started getting an error message when backing up: the size of the file exceeds th capacity of the disk, file size: 643578. Free space: 217088. Insert new backup disk or Cancel. He is using a registered version of BK6.5.3 on an XP Pro PC with an internal 1Tb hard hard disk where he stores his backups. Would the fact that he is writing over the previous backup be significant? Any idea? Thanks. Gilles Paquette ----- Aucun virus trouvé dans ce message. Analyse effectuée par AVG - www.avg.fr Version: 2012.0.1869 / Base de données virale: 2092/4618 - Date: 15/11/2011 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Is he using the full C: portion of the disk or a partition of the disk with some other letter? He may have set the partition size too small. Effectus bonus addo bonus On Nov 15, 2011, at 12:35 PM, "Gilles de C. Paquette" <paquette.gdec@videotron.ca> wrote: > Hi > > A few days ago, a friend started getting an error message when backing > up: the size of the file exceeds th capacity of the disk, file size: > 643578. Free space: 217088. Insert new backup disk or Cancel. > > He is using a registered version of BK6.5.3 on an XP Pro PC with an > internal 1Tb hard hard disk where he stores his backups. Would the fact > that he is writing over the previous backup be significant? > > Any idea? > > Thanks. > > Gilles Paquette > > > > ----- > Aucun virus trouvé dans ce message. > Analyse effectuée par AVG - www.avg.fr > Version: 2012.0.1869 / Base de données virale: 2092/4618 - Date: 15/11/2011 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi A few days ago, a friend started getting an error message when backing up: the size of the file exceeds th capacity of the disk, file size: 643578. Free space: 217088. Insert new backup disk or Cancel. He is using a registered version of BK6.5.3 on an XP Pro PC with an internal 1Tb hard hard disk where he stores his backups. Would the fact that he is writing over the previous backup be significant? Any idea? Thanks. Gilles Paquette ----- Aucun virus trouvé dans ce message. Analyse effectuée par AVG - www.avg.fr Version: 2012.0.1869 / Base de données virale: 2092/4618 - Date: 15/11/2011

Thanks for your thoughts on this. I think the idea of a spreadsheet is quite a useful one particularly for something like an elusive baptism where you might search many parishes and cover a range of dates for each, or if you are looking for all occurrences of a specific surname. The things I am conscious of not recording are things like online probate indexes and WW1 medal cards where I occasionally have a browse for names of interest - I don't always log that I looked at these indexes and did not find Joseph Bloggs. As I said, I use 'to do' where I am filling in some information and think "Next time I'm in xxx I'll check for yyyy". I must start adding some 'to do's as I'm doing them! Ruth On 13/11/2011 15:20, Diane Scannell wrote: > Ruth, I created an Internet Research Log which you can do in your word > processor, or a spreadsheet, or a database. The Log contains columns > for Date, URL, Seeking, Success, and Zip (Dud). You can keep this > log/file open while you are searching and easily copy/paste the URL into > the appropriate space and make your notes on what you found, or didn't > find. I just put an X in the Zip column if I didn't find anything. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks John. It is clear for me. With my best regards, Max van Dam Rechovot Israel http://www.maxvandam.info/ ----- Original Message ----- From: J. P. Gilliver (John) To: bk@rootsweb.com ; BK-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [BK] How to use option "Media" In message <7135EBF0349B4531AB441DBD9A537CD2@BerthaPC>, Max van Dam <vandam@actcom.co.il> writes: [] >1. If I put a media-file to a person in BK about a file situated on an >external disc (WD) can I see that file also if I have put my >BK-database on an other computer? It's the same as a picture file: if both computers can see the external disc, _and_ both of them refer to it by the same drive letter (such as G:), then yes, otherwise no. > >2. How do you use the option "add Email" If you mean how do you add a person's email, it's under "Address". [] -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf "Everyone has always regarded any usage but his own as either barbarous or pedantic." - Evelyn Waugh, quoted by Lynne Truss in "Eats, shoots & Leaves" 2003 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear members on the list, I work already for many years with BK. I have now version 6.5.3 I did never use the option of Media. A little bit lazy of me to learn it. By the recent discussion on the list I was a little bit curious about the opportunities of Media for me. My working system is: 1. All the research, documents and so on I save it in my desktop computer. 2. All the changes is my database (BK) I bring it in on my laptop. 3. On daily base I bring a copy of my BK-database from my laptop to my desktop. 4. Weekly I send a copy of my database from my desktop to my son in an other place in the country. This is the way I'm working. My database is almost 75.000 names. Now to the option Media: Questions: 1. If I put a media-file to a person in BK about a file situated on an external disc (WD) can I see that file also if I have put my BK-database on an other computer? 2. How do you use the option "add Email" With my best regards, Max van Dam Rechovot Israel http://www.maxvandam.info/

In message <7135EBF0349B4531AB441DBD9A537CD2@BerthaPC>, Max van Dam <vandam@actcom.co.il> writes: [] >1. If I put a media-file to a person in BK about a file situated on an >external disc (WD) can I see that file also if I have put my >BK-database on an other computer? It's the same as a picture file: if both computers can see the external disc, _and_ both of them refer to it by the same drive letter (such as G:), then yes, otherwise no. > >2. How do you use the option "add Email" If you mean how do you add a person's email, it's under "Address". [] -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf "Everyone has always regarded any usage but his own as either barbarous or pedantic." - Evelyn Waugh, quoted by Lynne Truss in "Eats, shoots & Leaves" 2003

In message <4EBFE028.2020208@satx.rr.com>, Diane Scannell <dscannell@satx.rr.com> writes: >Ruth, I created an Internet Research Log which you can do in your word >processor, or a spreadsheet, or a database. The Log contains columns [] >I have never tried to connect it to BK via the Media tab, but that might >work, too. [] You'd only be able to connect it to one person's record (or, several, but one at a time). -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf "Everyone has always regarded any usage but his own as either barbarous or pedantic." - Evelyn Waugh, quoted by Lynne Truss in "Eats, shoots & Leaves" 2003

In message <BLU0-SMTP40239E49D8C1B03A8D15996E3C30@phx.gbl>, Fran LaChance <singer.35@hotmail.com> writes: >For online and microfilm items I make copies of the images and keep >them on my computer, >DVD, or thumb-drive. That way I can always go back and look again to >see if I missed >them. Then in my genealogy program I attached that image to the event >with source >information. > >Fran [] Including negative ones (where it turns out to be an unrelated person)? I do that (I suspect most of us do) for items that _do_ relate to my ancestors/relatives. I do have a "!duds" directory, but that tends only to contain results from blind alleys where I have been under the impression that they were right and have subsequently determined otherwise; I don't, though I imagine I should, keep ones that I can see straight away aren't relevant. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf "Everyone has always regarded any usage but his own as either barbarous or pedantic." - Evelyn Waugh, quoted by Lynne Truss in "Eats, shoots & Leaves" 2003

In message <4EBF98F8.8060807@ntlworld.com>, Ruth Wilson <ruth.wilson7@ntlworld.com> writes: >How do others record their research, especially your 'negative' research? >Years ago when it was all paper based and in record offices, I listed >what I had searched and with what result. It occurred to me that there >is so much now online (hooray!) that I'm not very good at doing this >anymore - it's so easy just to flick through a record set and move on. Very true! >There isn't anywhere dedicated to doing this in BK although I am >wondering if I ought to make the To do list work for me this way - as I >look through a record set, add it as a 'To do' and make a note what I >have looked at and with what result. (at the moment, I use 'To do' as an >aide-memoire for things to look for when I have the chance to get to a >particular record office or archive). >What do you do? >Ruth [] I tend to be very lax about recording negative results - just relying on memory, and we all know how reliable that can be (-:! I think if I record them anywhere, I put them in notes - "the Fred Bloggs shown in xyz parish register is not this person; see such-and-such where he's shown as being born to different parents", or something like that; sometimes in general notes, where relevant in event-specific notes. But it's definitely the exception rather than the rule. I tend to think of the To Do area as for things I know about but haven't done - for example I record there a link to a webpage that shows the spouse/children/whatever of a side branch of the family which I might enter sometime, but which are not of much interest to me at the moment. But everyone uses the To Do area - and the two sorts of note area! - in their own slightly-different way: I'm not saying your use is wrong in any way. Some people use To Do to remind them of things like "if I ever visit abc record office again, check ...". -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf "Everyone has always regarded any usage but his own as either barbarous or pedantic." - Evelyn Waugh, quoted by Lynne Truss in "Eats, shoots & Leaves" 2003

How do others record their research, especially your 'negative' research? Years ago when it was all paper based and in record offices, I listed what I had searched and with what result. It occurred to me that there is so much now online (hooray!) that I'm not very good at doing this anymore - it's so easy just to flick through a record set and move on. There isn't anywhere dedicated to doing this in BK although I am wondering if I ought to make the To do list work for me this way - as I look through a record set, add it as a 'To do' and make a note what I have looked at and with what result. (at the moment, I use 'To do' as an aide-memoire for things to look for when I have the chance to get to a particular record office or archive). What do you do? Ruth

Ruth, I created an Internet Research Log which you can do in your word processor, or a spreadsheet, or a database. The Log contains columns for Date, URL, Seeking, Success, and Zip (Dud). You can keep this log/file open while you are searching and easily copy/paste the URL into the appropriate space and make your notes on what you found, or didn't find. I just put an X in the Zip column if I didn't find anything. That said, I am not very good at keeping it up, but when I do, it helps. I have never tried to connect it to BK via the Media tab, but that might work, too. Good Luck, Diane On 11/13/2011 4:16 AM, Ruth Wilson wrote: > How do others record their research, especially your 'negative' research? > Years ago when it was all paper based and in record offices, I listed > what I had searched and with what result. It occurred to me that there > is so much now online (hooray!) that I'm not very good at doing this > anymore - it's so easy just to flick through a record set and move on. > There isn't anywhere dedicated to doing this in BK although I am > wondering if I ought to make the To do list work for me this way - as I > look through a record set, add it as a 'To do' and make a note what I > have looked at and with what result. (at the moment, I use 'To do' as an > aide-memoire for things to look for when I have the chance to get to a > particular record office or archive). > What do you do? > Ruth > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

For online and microfilm items I make copies of the images and keep them on my computer, DVD, or thumb-drive. That way I can always go back and look again to see if I missed them. Then in my genealogy program I attached that image to the event with source information. Fran The Future is as Bright as the Promises of God On 13/11/2011 5:16 AM, Ruth Wilson wrote: > How do others record their research, especially your 'negative' research? > Years ago when it was all paper based and in record offices, I listed > what I had searched and with what result. It occurred to me that there > is so much now online (hooray!) that I'm not very good at doing this > anymore - it's so easy just to flick through a record set and move on. > There isn't anywhere dedicated to doing this in BK although I am > wondering if I ought to make the To do list work for me this way - as I > look through a record set, add it as a 'To do' and make a note what I > have looked at and with what result. (at the moment, I use 'To do' as an > aide-memoire for things to look for when I have the chance to get to a > particular record office or archive). > What do you do? > Ruth > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >