To J P Gilliver Yes, there are sometimes situations that the Relationship Box Chart has trouble with. If you would like me to try to fix the problem, could you make a Compressed Backup and send me Private email with just the BK7DATA.ZIP file and I will try to find the problem and get it fixed. John Steed ________________________________ From: J. P. Gilliver (John) <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 1:59 PM To: bk@rootsweb.com Subject: [BK] Re: complex relationships In message <HIdh1MfSkQEcFwqT@255soft.uk>, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> writes: >In message ><BN7PR02MB5092F1B8FA41E063445014FA91A60@BN7PR02MB5092.namprd02.prod.outl>o >ok.com>, John Steed <brothers_keeper@msn.com> writes: >>To J P Gilliver >> >>Have you tried the report Other, Relationship Box Chart. >> >>It is just below Other, All Relatives (on the menu) >> >>It shows the links between two people. > >Thanks - that worked eventually! I thought I'd describe my experience >though: I spoke too soon. [] >I was a little surprised that I needed more than 30 in the box, for a >relationship of "third cousin, once removed of wife of the first >cousin, thrice removed": is there a way of knowing, from that, what >number _is_ needed? (Or, is there any disadvantage in leaving it at the >maximum?) [] When using "Display Chart", there were two anomalies: 1. I couldn't scroll down to the bottom of the chart; 2. The image shown for 6 Mary Haley M.B.E. was not the "Primary" one (I think it was the first one). I wouldn't have worried _too_ much about those, but (apart from the image for #6 - that came out as the right one on printing!) the chart was the same as the one produced by "Print Chart": https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2F255soft.uk%2Ftemp%2F3-4558.pdf&data=02%7C01%7C%7C97d0cc27d45a4c78f73f08d6603a3fa8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636802200628346901&sdata=3VmTCG8B%2FWeQiyYrqVIRIcHAkirfNeohbwtLywnEZ4o%3D&reserved=0 . As you can see, (a) it _doesn't_ show any link between 3 (bottom left) and 4558 (bottom right) - it actually contains two charts, between which you can trace a white zigzag; and (b), something's gone very odd near the top right of the chart. Regards, John G. - Visit 255soft.uk if you find petitions unfair (and please *pass it on*, too). -- J. P. Gilliver _______________________________________________ Remember - Use the Archives at https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Farchiver.rootsweb.com%2Fcgi-bin%2Fsearch&data=02%7C01%7C%7C97d0cc27d45a4c78f73f08d6603a3fa8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636802200628346901&sdata=%2B07Mqs4%2FzrhNh9rpETKg9j7AKLA1B2RWdihZ8EE5sjY%3D&reserved=0 _______________________________________________ Email preferences: https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fbit.ly%2Frootswebpref&data=02%7C01%7C%7C97d0cc27d45a4c78f73f08d6603a3fa8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636802200628346901&sdata=wbziYLp2M%2BPjjAEdLPExfBk1OhUHyQpCZBD6MUwrGCs%3D&reserved=0 Unsubscribe https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.rootsweb.com%2Fpostorius%2Flists%2Fbk%40rootsweb.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C97d0cc27d45a4c78f73f08d6603a3fa8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636802200628346901&sdata=IQ3KShClDeiZko8De76dVXtU5j%2FgcWTrdO7CJ8SZf5A%3D&reserved=0 Privacy Statement: https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fancstry.me%2F2JWBOdY&data=02%7C01%7C%7C97d0cc27d45a4c78f73f08d6603a3fa8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636802200628346901&sdata=rOCcComkePc%2Bpmacl%2FMqhl%2BJfzrnW2QLf2bhNHTrBtM%3D&reserved=0 Terms and Conditions: https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fancstry.me%2F2HDBym9&data=02%7C01%7C%7C97d0cc27d45a4c78f73f08d6603a3fa8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636802200628346901&sdata=9Frh5Pwhng0Wwo2hzC4h%2BU0WtdTiwxUi3%2BqWjiRsawQ%3D&reserved=0 Rootsweb Blog: https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frootsweb.blog&data=02%7C01%7C%7C97d0cc27d45a4c78f73f08d6603a3fa8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636802200628346901&sdata=8Grt9rSKdhuS8nvV9k4v3asl06z6A5RxXKZcHLfx%2Bp0%3D&reserved=0 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
In message <000901d49265$e92ab770$bb802650$@internode.on.net>, Bill Webster <wbwebster@internode.on.net> writes: >Thanks John Gilliver >You know, I looked at that list of options and somehow my eyes glazed over >that one. A clear sign I had been at it too long for one day. >Bill You're welcome. I noticed when looking there, there's also one which I think will avoid you having to enter "? Surname", and will let you enter just Surname. (I have the five-character one selected too - saves me a lot of typing.) JPG > >-----Original Message----- >From: J. P. Gilliver (John) [mailto:G6JPG-255@255soft.uk] >Sent: Thursday, 13 December 2018 1:07 AM >To: bk@rootsweb.com >Subject: [BK] Re: Sort "Find" by birth date? > >In message <001c01d491da$0b4ed200$21ec7600$@internode.on.net>, Bill >Webster <wbwebster@internode.on.net> writes: >>If I did a general "Find" by "? [Surname]", I would like the option to >>sort the results by birth. The default sort is by alphabetical first >>name. >>This way I would be able to see individuals against their contemporaries. >>Bill >>NSW Australia >[] >In the "Select Person" window (where you can type "? Surna" in the top >box), note the "Options" button. Inside that - third tickbox from the >bottom - you will find a tickbox for "Make the Select Person list show >in birth year order". [This - and I think all the other options - is >remembered.] > >It will show those with no recorded birth date first, then the rest in >order of birthdate (which it shows on the left, before the names - don't >confuse it with the BK number which is shown after the names). [] JPG - UK only: Visit 255soft.uk if you find petitions unfair (and please *pass it on*, too). -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Play dirty. If a fellow contestant asks the audience if they've got any requests for what he or she should play, reply, "Yeah... Monopoly."
Thanks John Gilliver You know, I looked at that list of options and somehow my eyes glazed over that one. A clear sign I had been at it too long for one day. Bill -----Original Message----- From: J. P. Gilliver (John) [mailto:G6JPG-255@255soft.uk] Sent: Thursday, 13 December 2018 1:07 AM To: bk@rootsweb.com Subject: [BK] Re: Sort "Find" by birth date? In message <001c01d491da$0b4ed200$21ec7600$@internode.on.net>, Bill Webster <wbwebster@internode.on.net> writes: >If I did a general "Find" by "? [Surname]", I would like the option to >sort the results by birth. The default sort is by alphabetical first >name. >This way I would be able to see individuals against their contemporaries. >Bill >NSW Australia [] In the "Select Person" window (where you can type "? Surna" in the top box), note the "Options" button. Inside that - third tickbox from the bottom - you will find a tickbox for "Make the Select Person list show in birth year order". [This - and I think all the other options - is remembered.] It will show those with no recorded birth date first, then the rest in order of birthdate (which it shows on the left, before the names - don't confuse it with the BK number which is shown after the names). Hope that's what you're looking for (-:! JPG - Visit 255soft.uk if you find petitions unfair (and please *pass it on*, too). -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Personally, I don't like the Senate idea, I don't like the idea of having to elect another bunch of overpaid incompetents. I don't like the idea of having wholesale appointments by the PM of the day for domination of the second chamber. I like anachronism. I like the idea of a bunch of unelected congenital idiots getting in the way of a bunch of conmen. - Charles F. Hankel, 1998-3-19. _______________________________________________ Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/bk@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
In message <001c01d491da$0b4ed200$21ec7600$@internode.on.net>, Bill Webster <wbwebster@internode.on.net> writes: >If I did a general "Find" by "? [Surname]", I would like the option to >sort the results by birth. The default sort is by alphabetical first >name. >This way I would be able to see individuals against their contemporaries. >Bill >NSW Australia [] In the "Select Person" window (where you can type "? Surna" in the top box), note the "Options" button. Inside that - third tickbox from the bottom - you will find a tickbox for "Make the Select Person list show in birth year order". [This - and I think all the other options - is remembered.] It will show those with no recorded birth date first, then the rest in order of birthdate (which it shows on the left, before the names - don't confuse it with the BK number which is shown after the names). Hope that's what you're looking for (-:! JPG - Visit 255soft.uk if you find petitions unfair (and please *pass it on*, too). -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Personally, I don't like the Senate idea, I don't like the idea of having to elect another bunch of overpaid incompetents. I don't like the idea of having wholesale appointments by the PM of the day for domination of the second chamber. I like anachronism. I like the idea of a bunch of unelected congenital idiots getting in the way of a bunch of conmen. - Charles F. Hankel, 1998-3-19.
In message <HIdh1MfSkQEcFwqT@255soft.uk>, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> writes: >In message ><BN7PR02MB5092F1B8FA41E063445014FA91A60@BN7PR02MB5092.namprd02.prod.outl>o >ok.com>, John Steed <brothers_keeper@msn.com> writes: >>To J P Gilliver >> >>Have you tried the report Other, Relationship Box Chart. >> >>It is just below Other, All Relatives (on the menu) >> >>It shows the links between two people. > >Thanks - that worked eventually! I thought I'd describe my experience >though: I spoke too soon. [] >I was a little surprised that I needed more than 30 in the box, for a >relationship of "third cousin, once removed of wife of the first >cousin, thrice removed": is there a way of knowing, from that, what >number _is_ needed? (Or, is there any disadvantage in leaving it at the >maximum?) [] When using "Display Chart", there were two anomalies: 1. I couldn't scroll down to the bottom of the chart; 2. The image shown for 6 Mary Haley M.B.E. was not the "Primary" one (I think it was the first one). I wouldn't have worried _too_ much about those, but (apart from the image for #6 - that came out as the right one on printing!) the chart was the same as the one produced by "Print Chart": http://255soft.uk/temp/3-4558.pdf . As you can see, (a) it _doesn't_ show any link between 3 (bottom left) and 4558 (bottom right) - it actually contains two charts, between which you can trace a white zigzag; and (b), something's gone very odd near the top right of the chart. Regards, John G. - Visit 255soft.uk if you find petitions unfair (and please *pass it on*, too). -- J. P. Gilliver
In message <BN7PR02MB5092F1B8FA41E063445014FA91A60@BN7PR02MB5092.namprd02.prod.outlo ok.com>, John Steed <brothers_keeper@msn.com> writes: >To J P Gilliver > >Have you tried the report Other, Relationship Box Chart. > >It is just below Other, All Relatives (on the menu) > >It shows the links between two people. Thanks - that worked eventually! I thought I'd describe my experience though: I'd forgotten about that one, so I fired it up, entering #4558 and #3 (me). I clicked "Display Chart", and got a box saying "The existing relationship file is for: ...#3 If you want to start with:... #4558 Then you will need to click Start to make a new relationship file. Click Options from the top menu, then start. [OK]". So I OK'd - it gave me a chart with just me in it. So I closed that (which put me back to the edit screen), then fired up Relationship Box Chart, with the two numbers now round the other way, and clicked Display Chart again. I now get a box saying "4558 not found. You might need to set it for more generations, then click Start to make a new relationship file." So I change "Number of generations or sideways links" from 10 to 30 and click Start. (At first I thought nothing was happening, then I saw "Please Wait" and some figures changing, in dark grey on light grey. A more visible colour - such as red - might help here ....) Then I got a couple of progress bars, then back to the start screen. I clicked Display Chart again. I got the "#4558 not found ..." box again. I've put the "Number ..." up to 60 (which seems to be the maximum). I'm clicking Start - Make Relationship File again. After 62 seconds, I got the two "Sorting" progress bars again, and then back to the main screen. I clicked "Display Chart" again, and got a chart! I was a little surprised that I needed more than 30 in the box, for a relationship of "third cousin, once removed of wife of the first cousin, thrice removed": is there a way of knowing, from that, what number _is_ needed? (Or, is there any disadvantage in leaving it at the maximum?) > >John Steed > John Gilliver [] Visit 255soft.uk if you find petitions unfair (and please *pass it on*, too). -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf A biochemist walks into a student bar and says to the barman: "I'd like a pint of adenosine triphosphate, please." "Certainly," says the barman, "that'll be ATP." (Quoted in) The Independent, 2013-7-13
In message <001801d4910c$8f27c3d0$ad774b70$@pycroft.co.nz>, Barry PYCROFT <barry@pycroft.co.nz> writes: >The Relationship report should show the two lineages; Yes? Only if there is a common ancestor. Not if the "chain" from one to other person involves at least one marriage. > >Once you have the most recent common ancestor (MRCA), their Descendant tree >should show that. > >Does the "all relatives" report, show the MRCA? No (not even when there is one). > > Barry P. > >-----Original Message----- >From: J. P. Gilliver (John) [mailto:G6JPG-255@255soft.uk] >Sent: Tuesday, 11 December 2018 3:46 PM >To: bk@rootsweb.com >Subject: [BK] complex relationships > >In an "all relatives" report, it tells me that person #4558 is "third >cousin, once removed of wife of the first cousin, thrice removed" to me. > >If I want to visualise the track from me to her or vice versa, is there any >easy way to find who the married couple in the link are? (I tried searching >for just "first cousin, thrice removed", but I seem to have hundreds of >those!) [] Visit 255soft.uk if you find petitions unfair (and please *pass it on*, too). -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf A biochemist walks into a student bar and says to the barman: "I'd like a pint of adenosine triphosphate, please." "Certainly," says the barman, "that'll be ATP." (Quoted in) The Independent, 2013-7-13
In message <001701d4910a$e87c7cc0$b9757640$@pycroft.co.nz>, Barry PYCROFT <barry@pycroft.co.nz> writes: >John Steed. > PASTING to a Location Field. > > It would appear from my experiments just now, using UniversalViewer that >John Gilliver's pasting problem is the result of having a ['line feed' and >'carriage return'] characters {0A and 0D} included inside the text string. >Pasting that string to Notes appears to be acceptable and shows the {0A and >0D} characters included inside the multi-line text string. Removal of same >to make a single line of text makes the problem go away. Sorry, as I've said both in my original post and to you in email, even reducing the pasted text to two words - _not_ including any newline - _still_ gave the ding. JPG > > Barry P. >Christchurch > New Zealand. > >-----Original Message----- >From: John Steed [mailto:brothers_keeper@msn.com] >Sent: Tuesday, 11 December 2018 12:51 PM >To: bk@rootsweb.com >Subject: [BK] Re: Still having difficulties pasting, especially (perhaps >only?) into Location/Description column. > >To J P Gilliver > >While viewing the Event grid, click the Options button at the bottom right. > > <... all prior deleted ... > [] Visit 255soft.uk if you find petitions unfair (and please *pass it on*, too). -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf As Groucho Marx said, "I cannot say that I do not disagree with you."
BillProduce the same report by selecting the same fields and then under create a cvs file and read into excel and sortJim Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad On Wednesday, December 12, 2018, 12:17 AM, Bill Webster <wbwebster@internode.on.net> wrote: If I did a general "Find" by "? [Surname]", I would like the option to sort the results by birth. The default sort is by alphabetical first name. This way I would be able to see individuals against their contemporaries. Bill NSW Australia _______________________________________________ Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/bk@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
If I did a general "Find" by "? [Surname]", I would like the option to sort the results by birth. The default sort is by alphabetical first name. This way I would be able to see individuals against their contemporaries. Bill NSW Australia
To J P Gilliver Have you tried the report Other, Relationship Box Chart. It is just below Other, All Relatives (on the menu) It shows the links between two people. John Steed ________________________________ From: J. P. Gilliver (John) <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2018 2:46 AM To: bk@rootsweb.com Subject: [BK] complex relationships In an "all relatives" report, it tells me that person #4558 is "third cousin, once removed of wife of the first cousin, thrice removed" to me. If I want to visualise the track from me to her or vice versa, is there any easy way to find who the married couple in the link are? (I tried searching for just "first cousin, thrice removed", but I seem to have hundreds of those!) -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf That's how he [Dr. Who] seems to me. He's always been someone who gets the /Guardian/. There are some parts of the universe where it's harder to get hold of. - Peter Capaldi (current incumbent Doctor), RT 2016/11/26-12/2 _______________________________________________ Remember - Use the Archives at https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Farchiver.rootsweb.com%2Fcgi-bin%2Fsearch&data=02%7C01%7C%7C69b58334b9ce4a663cf408d65f12fb5a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636800932471265949&sdata=t0JamyTsBQi%2FcOzHCdfRlfbGy6s4j%2BWe62nKcblea5o%3D&reserved=0 _______________________________________________ Email preferences: https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fbit.ly%2Frootswebpref&data=02%7C01%7C%7C69b58334b9ce4a663cf408d65f12fb5a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636800932471265949&sdata=D1VSCqz%2FLpMkS9ZmioR3OFuNdNUby89Qpg%2BvNI%2BAKS8%3D&reserved=0 Unsubscribe https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.rootsweb.com%2Fpostorius%2Flists%2Fbk%40rootsweb.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C69b58334b9ce4a663cf408d65f12fb5a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636800932471265949&sdata=sjq3uTsm%2FSrmB0zM5WQoli7kx4rV1wvwuRCldUc1PSU%3D&reserved=0 Privacy Statement: https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fancstry.me%2F2JWBOdY&data=02%7C01%7C%7C69b58334b9ce4a663cf408d65f12fb5a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636800932471265949&sdata=FJPnHQZ%2FoQRpFYBl06M4jN2zggCzQBmklBe7M47b4vA%3D&reserved=0 Terms and Conditions: https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fancstry.me%2F2HDBym9&data=02%7C01%7C%7C69b58334b9ce4a663cf408d65f12fb5a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636800932471265949&sdata=WaKOJASYuYtor81PGJ9l5D5mOqZLXEMvdHCOPo9Y02U%3D&reserved=0 Rootsweb Blog: https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frootsweb.blog&data=02%7C01%7C%7C69b58334b9ce4a663cf408d65f12fb5a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636800932471265949&sdata=titq4wC8zsnuLLTIRGvm53MBOBW6MzMqDCCP%2BBXDHZY%3D&reserved=0 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
The Relationship report should show the two lineages; Yes? Once you have the most recent common ancestor (MRCA), their Descendant tree should show that. Does the "all relatives" report, show the MRCA? Barry P. -----Original Message----- From: J. P. Gilliver (John) [mailto:G6JPG-255@255soft.uk] Sent: Tuesday, 11 December 2018 3:46 PM To: bk@rootsweb.com Subject: [BK] complex relationships In an "all relatives" report, it tells me that person #4558 is "third cousin, once removed of wife of the first cousin, thrice removed" to me. If I want to visualise the track from me to her or vice versa, is there any easy way to find who the married couple in the link are? (I tried searching for just "first cousin, thrice removed", but I seem to have hundreds of those!) -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf That's how he [Dr. Who] seems to me. He's always been someone who gets the /Guardian/. There are some parts of the universe where it's harder to get hold of. - Peter Capaldi (current incumbent Doctor), RT 2016/11/26-12/2 _______________________________________________ Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/bk@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
John Steed. PASTING to a Location Field. It would appear from my experiments just now, using UniversalViewer that John Gilliver's pasting problem is the result of having a ['line feed' and 'carriage return'] characters {0A and 0D} included inside the text string. Pasting that string to Notes appears to be acceptable and shows the {0A and 0D} characters included inside the multi-line text string. Removal of same to make a single line of text makes the problem go away. Barry P. Christchurch New Zealand. -----Original Message----- From: John Steed [mailto:brothers_keeper@msn.com] Sent: Tuesday, 11 December 2018 12:51 PM To: bk@rootsweb.com Subject: [BK] Re: Still having difficulties pasting, especially (perhaps only?) into Location/Description column. To J P Gilliver While viewing the Event grid, click the Options button at the bottom right. <... all prior deleted ... >
Barry PYCROFT would like to recall the message, "[BK] Re: Still having difficulties pasting, especially (perhaps only?) into Location/Description column.".
-----Original Message----- From: John Steed [mailto:brothers_keeper@msn.com] Sent: Tuesday, 11 December 2018 12:51 PM To: bk@rootsweb.com Subject: [BK] Re: Still having difficulties pasting, especially (perhaps only?) into Location/Description column. To J P Gilliver While viewing the Event grid, click the Options button at the bottom right. There is an option there: "When you tab to a location, do not set the cursor blinking" If you UNcheck that and close options, then when you Tab to a Location field, you should be able to Paste into it. But if you have that option Checked, then if you Tab to a location, you need to either Click the location field with the mouse, or else type one letter then backspace and then Paste into the field. Yes, if you tab out of BK to another program, you need to click with the mouse on the field you want to have focus. John Steed ________________________________ From: J. P. Gilliver (John) <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> Sent: Sunday, December 9, 2018 2:47 PM To: bk@rootsweb.com Subject: [BK] Still having difficulties pasting, especially (perhaps only?) into Location/Description column. Just got this from a cousin (discussing ship's manifests): You'll see that Vyvyan's sister, Elizabeth Summers is also listed. All I know of Elizabeth is that she, too, went to Rhodes University in Grahamstown, South Africa (which is my old uni). So I highlight "Rhodes .. Africa", Ctrl-C. I now go to Vyvyan's record in my tree, Ctrl-I to insert a new Event/Fact above one that's there, select Education, and tab across to the Location/Description column, press context key, select _P_aste - and there's a "ding", and nothing happens. I try Ctrl-V - same. I shift-tab out then tab back, and try again - same. I try selecting less - just the first two words - no change. I don't know what the precise circumstances are that cause this problem - I _sometimes_ *can* paste into that column - but this is getting increasingly irritating. (BK is still losing focus - i. e, the cursor - if I alt-tab out of BK when editing an event note, too. [Another time when, usually, I'm pasting, though a click restores it in that case.]) JPG Ever been frustrated that you can't *disagree* with a petition? If so, visit 255soft.uk - and please pass it on, too. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf The average age at which a woman has her first child has passed 30. Jason Cowley, RT 2016/6/11-17 _______________________________________________ Remember - Use the Archives at https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Farchiver.ro otsweb.com%2Fcgi-bin%2Fsearch&data=02%7C01%7C%7C4ae9f8322867443f81e708d6 5ee1958d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636800720311503172& ;sdata=JmPTkzmVuC6A5OAWKrLeIgIkyX0gTQsfn3paczrVjs4%3D&reserved=0 _______________________________________________ Email preferences: https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fbit.ly%2Fro otswebpref&data=02%7C01%7C%7C4ae9f8322867443f81e708d65ee1958d%7C84df9e7f e9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636800720311503172&sdata=l2aGZfnhwauH 5SZXeJUcb45HtdWCAfLF5tffT3b35N4%3D&reserved=0 Unsubscribe https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.root sweb.com%2Fpostorius%2Flists%2Fbk%40rootsweb.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C4ae9f 8322867443f81e708d65ee1958d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636 800720311503172&sdata=ZDThTHc4gzFhcTcINPMQV8OnO7N9hx%2Byi2SAJw9UGVg%3D&a mp;reserved=0 Privacy Statement: https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fancstry.me %2F2JWBOdY&data=02%7C01%7C%7C4ae9f8322867443f81e708d65ee1958d%7C84df9e7f e9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636800720311503172&sdata=LcJekp3gpdcc QXkx%2FrvhfffDpKDsR9PuD%2F%2Fbx0IqY9Q%3D&reserved=0 Terms and Conditions: https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fancstry.me %2F2HDBym9&data=02%7C01%7C%7C4ae9f8322867443f81e708d65ee1958d%7C84df9e7f e9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636800720311503172&sdata=z6nw9PNmgDCh D5AG1PfF05qLIpvuZtQhtT5Rk7PN%2BNs%3D&reserved=0 Rootsweb Blog: https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frootsweb.bl og&data=02%7C01%7C%7C4ae9f8322867443f81e708d65ee1958d%7C84df9e7fe9f640af b435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636800720311503172&sdata=8PchPx1UR3degjwsdWGV R6sX9EfCuMXVPIMXSf8nQJ0%3D&reserved=0 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/bk@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
In an "all relatives" report, it tells me that person #4558 is "third cousin, once removed of wife of the first cousin, thrice removed" to me. If I want to visualise the track from me to her or vice versa, is there any easy way to find who the married couple in the link are? (I tried searching for just "first cousin, thrice removed", but I seem to have hundreds of those!) -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf That's how he [Dr. Who] seems to me. He's always been someone who gets the /Guardian/. There are some parts of the universe where it's harder to get hold of. - Peter Capaldi (current incumbent Doctor), RT 2016/11/26-12/2
In message <BN7PR02MB50924D8B8EC2EC16D49B85D691A50@BN7PR02MB5092.namprd02.prod.outlo ok.com>, John Steed <brothers_keeper@msn.com> writes: >To J P Gilliver > >While viewing the Event grid, click the Options button at the bottom right. > >There is an option there: > >"When you tab to a location, do not set the cursor blinking" I'm not sure what I have that set to, but whichever it is, I haven't changed it between the times when I _have_ been able to paste and the times when I haven't. > >If you UNcheck that and close options, then when you Tab to a Location >field, you should be able to Paste into it. > >But if you have that option Checked, then if you Tab to a location, you >need to either Click the location field with the mouse, or else type >one letter then backspace and then Paste into the field. I'll try to remember these two solutions (-:. > >Yes, if you tab out of BK to another program, you need to click with >the mouse on the field you want to have focus. Any plans to fix that? I quite often, for event notes, want to alt-tab back and forth to the source material (e. g. an email), copying bits. > >John Steed [] -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf It's quickly getting to a place where privacy will be cause for suspicion. - Mayayana in alt.windows7.general, 2018-11-6.
In message <000901d490e0$ae605590$0b2100b0$@pycroft.co.nz>, Barry PYCROFT <barry@pycroft.co.nz> writes: >There are circumstances where text cannot be copied using the edit >functions of Ctrl-c & Ctrl-v. >This happens with many programs & apps. This was FROM a plain-text email, TO Brother's Keeper (I wouldn't _usually_ have posted here if BK wasn't one or other). > > Try first copy then paste to Notepad. If that doesn't work, nothing >will work!! >Copy then the text from Notepad which will now be 'cleaned' to the >desired application. BK. > Sometimes the desired application / program does not accept pasted >data. Sometime the information presented is not plain text but MIME. Was from a plain-text email this time. > I know I do a lot of pasting from web-page 'text', but XL will not >accept that. The first paste for me is to MS-Word, then I copy to XL. > >Then as previously told, there are special characters, and these might >become evident in Notepad. Change those for 'proper' text'. I would have _hoped_, were that the problem, and the text being copied was "123#456" with # being the "funny", that the "123" would appear. >I use MS-Word for my intermediate copy/paste process as that can >accommodate quite well the unconventional characters, and can be seem >with the 'unprintable character' feature button on the menu bar. > >John G. == You might be suffering a process issue as well. Prepare >the event in BK before you start, give it a date. Then do your >copy/paste from the ship's manifests... .. perhaps via Notepad or >MS-Word. > >Bro Keep is pretty text based, so any format that cannot be converted >will not be usable. (Earlier this morning I did actually paste a location - Korçë, Berat, Albania - with funnies in it; BK accepted it without a murmur. That was from [a tree on] Ancestry.) > >**-*> Perhaps you could send me the links so I can experiment with the >problem & solution? *?* The text that wouldn't paste was from an email - which is still below (and I copied and pasted it into the original post): it's the six words from "Rhodes" to "Africa". As I said, I did wonder if the newline in the middle was causing a problem, so I tried the first two words only, but still got the ding. > >Barry P. >New Zealand >--==--. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mike Evans [mailto:MikeEvans@att.net] >Sent: Tuesday, 11 December 2018 10:38 AM >To: bk@rootsweb.com >Subject: [BK] Re: Still having difficulties pasting, especially >(perhaps only?) into Location/Description column. > >I experience this on occasion. what I thinks is a special/hidden >character is being copied and when pasted, refuses. Try pasting into >note pad and see if you have a "blank" character on the beginning or >end of what you copied, though sometimes there can be special >characters in the middle, like a TAB. > >On 12/9/18 8:47 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: >> Just got this from a cousin (discussing ship's manifests): >> >> You'll see that Vyvyan's sister, Elizabeth Summers is also listed. All >> I know of Elizabeth is that she, too, went to Rhodes University in >> Grahamstown, South Africa (which is my old uni). >> >> So I highlight "Rhodes .. Africa", Ctrl-C. I now go to Vyvyan's record >> in my tree, Ctrl-I to insert a new Event/Fact above one that's there, >> select Education, and tab across to the Location/Description column, >> press context key, select _P_aste - and there's a "ding", and nothing >> happens. I try Ctrl-V - same. I shift-tab out then tab back, and try >> again - same. I try selecting less - just the first two words - no >> change. >> >> I don't know what the precise circumstances are that cause this >> problem - I _sometimes_ *can* paste into that column - but this is >> getting increasingly irritating. >> >> (BK is still losing focus - i. e, the cursor - if I alt-tab out of BK >> when editing an event note, too. [Another time when, usually, I'm >> pasting, though a click restores it in that case.]) >> >> JPG [] Visit 255soft.uk if you find petitions unfair (and please *pass it on*, too). -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf It's quickly getting to a place where privacy will be cause for suspicion. - Mayayana in alt.windows7.general, 2018-11-6.
To Geoffrey Wilson To move from BK 5 to BK 7 you must first install BK 6.6 and pick File, Convert BK5 to BK6. Then install BK 7.3 and run it and pick File, Convert BK6 to BK7 If you have trouble, let me know. John Steed ________________________________ From: GEOFFREY L WILSON <glw4@psu.edu> Sent: Sunday, December 9, 2018 8:49 PM To: bk@rootsweb.com Subject: [BK] Upgrading from BK5 I have a CD and manual for BK6.6, but never installed it as I did not want to lose the reference numbers in my BK5G Wilson data base. It seems that my fears were unjustified. I see that the latest version is 7.3. If I were to get that could I jump directly to it from BK5, or mus I go via BK6?I am now a doddery 94 year old. It is hard for an old dog like me to learn new tricks, but it behooves me to try to get my stuff tidied up for the benefit of my progeny. On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 06:38 PM, bk@rootsweb.com wrote: > To Geoffrey Wilson > >If you use my Convert routines (File, Convert BK6 to BK7) then the BK >code number will not change from BK 5 to 6 or 6 to 7 > >However, if you use File, Gedcom Export and then Import then the numbers will >change. So I recommend you always use the convert routines that are in the >program and not Gedcom when moving between major versions of BK. > >John Steed > >________________________________ >From: GEOFFREY L WILSON <glw4@psu.edu> >Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2018 8:56 PM >To: bk@rootsweb.com >Subject: [BK] Re: How to find what censuses are missing? (was: Re: Re: >List of ancestors residences in text file) > >I suggest that you be careful here.I have three ring binders with sheet >protectors labelled with BK index numbers. My problem is that these numbers >are from my BK5 data base, and when I update to BK6 or BK7 new numbers will >appear. I think the same thing is likely to happen it John issues a new version >BK8. > > _______________________________________________ Remember - Use the Archives at https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Farchiver.rootsweb.com%2Fcgi-bin%2Fsearch&data=02%7C01%7C%7C32cb8f7ad2c446390cb108d65edf8868%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636800711492706110&sdata=Twnz8cjMpIaztM3yfvIRCN%2B0t64Jo7Bk3RQwa8ilaRo%3D&reserved=0 _______________________________________________ Email preferences: https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fbit.ly%2Frootswebpref&data=02%7C01%7C%7C32cb8f7ad2c446390cb108d65edf8868%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636800711492706110&sdata=hTgzeh5rU2zfFKKEgGa65P98QeylJbeLt1ROtCmXri4%3D&reserved=0 Unsubscribe https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.rootsweb.com%2Fpostorius%2Flists%2Fbk%40rootsweb.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C32cb8f7ad2c446390cb108d65edf8868%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636800711492706110&sdata=%2F%2BoMWQ%2B9UCfyXCydkCTI87E9b3xRLgX9gxvdv67L3I8%3D&reserved=0 Privacy Statement: https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fancstry.me%2F2JWBOdY&data=02%7C01%7C%7C32cb8f7ad2c446390cb108d65edf8868%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636800711492706110&sdata=jGgawc8lNt2q7RTYEfuOJ5XycSYLmhK%2F%2BTmcM%2BhI%2FTA%3D&reserved=0 Terms and Conditions: https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fancstry.me%2F2HDBym9&data=02%7C01%7C%7C32cb8f7ad2c446390cb108d65edf8868%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636800711492706110&sdata=97XWIiD40X5q3wE3VUr3E%2FyNrM6avgqaD24qrMyM05E%3D&reserved=0 Rootsweb Blog: https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frootsweb.blog&data=02%7C01%7C%7C32cb8f7ad2c446390cb108d65edf8868%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636800711492706110&sdata=zP7iXaPhXjLA4BD9qUgkMMkLyIyJfQEKLliYFBcBruM%3D&reserved=0 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
To J P Gilliver While viewing the Event grid, click the Options button at the bottom right. There is an option there: "When you tab to a location, do not set the cursor blinking" If you UNcheck that and close options, then when you Tab to a Location field, you should be able to Paste into it. But if you have that option Checked, then if you Tab to a location, you need to either Click the location field with the mouse, or else type one letter then backspace and then Paste into the field. Yes, if you tab out of BK to another program, you need to click with the mouse on the field you want to have focus. John Steed ________________________________ From: J. P. Gilliver (John) <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> Sent: Sunday, December 9, 2018 2:47 PM To: bk@rootsweb.com Subject: [BK] Still having difficulties pasting, especially (perhaps only?) into Location/Description column. Just got this from a cousin (discussing ship's manifests): You'll see that Vyvyan's sister, Elizabeth Summers is also listed. All I know of Elizabeth is that she, too, went to Rhodes University in Grahamstown, South Africa (which is my old uni). So I highlight "Rhodes .. Africa", Ctrl-C. I now go to Vyvyan's record in my tree, Ctrl-I to insert a new Event/Fact above one that's there, select Education, and tab across to the Location/Description column, press context key, select _P_aste - and there's a "ding", and nothing happens. I try Ctrl-V - same. I shift-tab out then tab back, and try again - same. I try selecting less - just the first two words - no change. I don't know what the precise circumstances are that cause this problem - I _sometimes_ *can* paste into that column - but this is getting increasingly irritating. (BK is still losing focus - i. e, the cursor - if I alt-tab out of BK when editing an event note, too. [Another time when, usually, I'm pasting, though a click restores it in that case.]) JPG Ever been frustrated that you can't *disagree* with a petition? If so, visit 255soft.uk - and please pass it on, too. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf The average age at which a woman has her first child has passed 30. Jason Cowley, RT 2016/6/11-17 _______________________________________________ Remember - Use the Archives at https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Farchiver.rootsweb.com%2Fcgi-bin%2Fsearch&data=02%7C01%7C%7C4ae9f8322867443f81e708d65ee1958d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636800720311503172&sdata=JmPTkzmVuC6A5OAWKrLeIgIkyX0gTQsfn3paczrVjs4%3D&reserved=0 _______________________________________________ Email preferences: https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fbit.ly%2Frootswebpref&data=02%7C01%7C%7C4ae9f8322867443f81e708d65ee1958d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636800720311503172&sdata=l2aGZfnhwauH5SZXeJUcb45HtdWCAfLF5tffT3b35N4%3D&reserved=0 Unsubscribe https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.rootsweb.com%2Fpostorius%2Flists%2Fbk%40rootsweb.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C4ae9f8322867443f81e708d65ee1958d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636800720311503172&sdata=ZDThTHc4gzFhcTcINPMQV8OnO7N9hx%2Byi2SAJw9UGVg%3D&reserved=0 Privacy Statement: https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fancstry.me%2F2JWBOdY&data=02%7C01%7C%7C4ae9f8322867443f81e708d65ee1958d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636800720311503172&sdata=LcJekp3gpdccQXkx%2FrvhfffDpKDsR9PuD%2F%2Fbx0IqY9Q%3D&reserved=0 Terms and Conditions: https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fancstry.me%2F2HDBym9&data=02%7C01%7C%7C4ae9f8322867443f81e708d65ee1958d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636800720311503172&sdata=z6nw9PNmgDChD5AG1PfF05qLIpvuZtQhtT5Rk7PN%2BNs%3D&reserved=0 Rootsweb Blog: https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frootsweb.blog&data=02%7C01%7C%7C4ae9f8322867443f81e708d65ee1958d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636800720311503172&sdata=8PchPx1UR3degjwsdWGVR6sX9EfCuMXVPIMXSf8nQJ0%3D&reserved=0 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community