Yes, that is a good method, Otto, as it highlights the fact that no data is available for that information, not simply omitted. Also It permits space to enter the data should it be found subsequent to printing. Its only a report, not a formally published book. Cheers Barry P. ++ + + + -----Original Message----- From: bk-bounces@rootsweb.com ... Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 8:16 PM To: ... bk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BK] Why "invalid date"? Also quarters. On Thu, 1 Mar 2012 00:14:55 +0000, <... Middle bits deleted ... {BEP}> > >Me too (well, I have the Qx in the event comment field, and __ ___ 1951 >as the date, but the same reasoning). [I have it set to accept ddmmyyyy >as the input, but to _display_ as __ ___ yyyy.] >[] so you think reports with the " He was born at __ ___ 1941 and died __ ___ 1990" is very nice way to present the book reports of your family ??? :) -- Otto Jørgensen ++ + + + +

Dear Otto, I agree with you. A dotted line or other difference in the lining would be fine. Max van Dam ----- Original Message ----- From: Otto Jørgensen To: bk@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 9:43 AM Subject: Re: [BK] Natural parents and foster parents On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 02:08:24 +0200, "Max van Dam" <vandam@actcom.co.il> wrote: >Thanks Jim. > >For this moment I think also that there is a problem in BK. > >With my best regards, There us one very missing subject on this regarding Step, foster, biological children If a couple have several children to take care of, e.g. on adopted child and a biological child the Descendant Tree Chart The result makes no different and all children are presented in the same way AS biological children It should be a way to make a differency. E.g. the line from "parents" to childrent should be different a line from parents to biological child a "dotted" line from "foster parent" to "foster childe" -- Otto Jørgensen http://www.bkwin.info/ All email is checked by NORTON Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 02:08:24 +0200, "Max van Dam" <vandam@actcom.co.il> wrote: >Thanks Jim. > >For this moment I think also that there is a problem in BK. > >With my best regards, There us one very missing subject on this regarding Step, foster, biological children If a couple have several children to take care of, e.g. on adopted child and a biological child the Descendant Tree Chart The result makes no different and all children are presented in the same way AS biological children It should be a way to make a differency. E.g. the line from "parents" to childrent should be different a line from parents to biological child a "dotted" line from "foster parent" to "foster childe" -- Otto Jørgensen http://www.bkwin.info/ All email is checked by NORTON

On Thu, 1 Mar 2012 00:14:55 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG@soft255.demon.co.uk> wrote: >In message <CMEFJIGMPKLPELNONILDKECODHAA.mfwebb2005@btinternet.com>, >Malcolm Webb <mfwebb2005@btinternet.com> writes: >[] >>This is fine for my purposes. The BK calculations use the correct year and >>the Q1 prefix tells ME that I obtained the information from the UK BMD >>index. I record the full GRO index as my source under "comments for this >>citation" which gives me the opportunity to obtain a copy of the certificate >>if I find it necessary in the future without having to look at the index >>again. > >Just curious - why don't you put the "full GRO index" under "page" in >the source page, rather than the comment field? >> >>I have a large number of ancestors where I have recorded the birth, marriage >>or death as "Qx YYYY", so I guess I shall be sticking to this format. > >Me too (well, I have the Qx in the event comment field, and __ ___ 1951 >as the date, but the same reasoning). [I have it set to accept ddmmyyyy >as the input, but to _display_ as __ ___ yyyy.] >[] so you think reports with the " He was born at __ ___ 1941 and died __ ___ 1990" is very nice way to present the book reports of your family ??? :) -- Otto Jørgensen http://www.bkwin.info/ All email is checked by NORTON

>Just curious - why don't you put the "full GRO index" under "page" in >the source page, rather than the comment field? Short answer is -- I never thought about doing it. I have used BK since 1995 and it has been a labour of love to use BK to achieve what I want to achieve. I have made many mistakes over the years in creating and using my sources and spent many hours in correcting those mistakes to achieve consistency in recording my sources. The mistakes and inconsistencies only really came to light when I began printing reports and using Group Sheets to upload to my website. For my sources I give them a name in the "Actual Text" box and I check that so it prints; I put a comment in the "Comments" box and check that so it prints -- this is a global comment for all of that source; then I put specific information about the individual source in the "Comments for this citation" box and check that so it prints. I also use the "Quality of data" box. I have an abbreviation which appears in the index of sources but I do not check the box -- this prevents the abbreviation from printing. So the source for my Great Aunt who died in Q1 1955 prints as "GRO-BMD Index on-line; Personally checked by MFW; March qtr 1955 Vol 2c Page 785 Rotherham aged 82 years". I realise I probably do not use the source page as fully as others might do, but it is very much a case of doing "what works for me". BK is an excellent programme which gives the flexibility to use it to achieve what we want as individuals. All the best. Malcolm Webb www.mysteriousorigins.co.uk mfwebb2005@btinternet.com <mailto:mfwebb2005@btinternet.com> -----Original Message----- From: bk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bk-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of J. P. Gilliver (John) Sent: 01 March 2012 00:15 To: bk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BK] Why "invalid date"? Also quarters. In message <CMEFJIGMPKLPELNONILDKECODHAA.mfwebb2005@btinternet.com>, Malcolm Webb <mfwebb2005@btinternet.com> writes: [] >This is fine for my purposes. The BK calculations use the correct year and >the Q1 prefix tells ME that I obtained the information from the UK BMD >index. I record the full GRO index as my source under "comments for this >citation" which gives me the opportunity to obtain a copy of the certificate >if I find it necessary in the future without having to look at the index >again. Just curious - why don't you put the "full GRO index" under "page" in the source page, rather than the comment field? > >I have a large number of ancestors where I have recorded the birth, marriage >or death as "Qx YYYY", so I guess I shall be sticking to this format. Me too (well, I have the Qx in the event comment field, and __ ___ 1951 as the date, but the same reasoning). [I have it set to accept ddmmyyyy as the input, but to _display_ as __ ___ yyyy.] [] -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf "I hate the guys that criticize the enterprise of other guys whose enterprise has made them rise above the guys who criticize!" (W9BRD, former editor of "How's DX?" column in "QST") Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In message <CMEFJIGMPKLPELNONILDKECODHAA.mfwebb2005@btinternet.com>, Malcolm Webb <mfwebb2005@btinternet.com> writes: [] >This is fine for my purposes. The BK calculations use the correct year and >the Q1 prefix tells ME that I obtained the information from the UK BMD >index. I record the full GRO index as my source under "comments for this >citation" which gives me the opportunity to obtain a copy of the certificate >if I find it necessary in the future without having to look at the index >again. Just curious - why don't you put the "full GRO index" under "page" in the source page, rather than the comment field? > >I have a large number of ancestors where I have recorded the birth, marriage >or death as "Qx YYYY", so I guess I shall be sticking to this format. Me too (well, I have the Qx in the event comment field, and __ ___ 1951 as the date, but the same reasoning). [I have it set to accept ddmmyyyy as the input, but to _display_ as __ ___ yyyy.] [] -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf "I hate the guys that criticize the enterprise of other guys whose enterprise has made them rise above the guys who criticize!" (W9BRD, former editor of "How's DX?" column in "QST")

When restoring, BK allows you to "Pick another drive" type in C:\BK6\DATA\ - then restore will put it there.. Fran The Future is as Great as the Promises of God On 29/02/2012 9:43 PM, Bill Cook wrote: > HELP! > > I have converted to Windows 7 on a new machine from XP on an older machine. I have backed up my BK files in XP on my old machine which were located at C:\BK6\(DATA). I am trying to restore them to BK in Win 7 from a CD in D drive. When I attempt to do so the dialog box states “This routine will copy files from your backup disk to C:\Program Files\Brother’s Keeper 6” It also shows on the “Restore” button the correct location and file name for the restore to take place. However, my understanding is that the data files should not be under C:\Program Files. > > I would like to restore the files to C:\BK6\(DATA). How do I do that? > > Bill C. > Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

When restoring, BK allows you to "Pick another drive" type in CBK6\DATA\ - then restore will put it there.. Fran The Future is as Great as the Promises of God On 29/02/2012 9:43 PM, Bill Cook wrote: > HELP! > > I have converted to Windows 7 on a new machine from XP on an older machine. I have backed up my BK files in XP on my old machine which were located at C:\BK6\(DATA). I am trying to restore them to BK in Win 7 from a CD in D drive. When I attempt to do so the dialog box states “This routine will copy files from your backup disk to C:\Program Files\Brother’s Keeper 6” It also shows on the “Restore” button the correct location and file name for the restore to take place. However, my understanding is that the data files should not be under C:\Program Files. > > I would like to restore the files to C:\BK6\(DATA). How do I do that? > > Bill C. > Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

To Bill Cook Start BK 6.5 At the bottom of the main screen, what is the folder name? If that starts with C:\program files then you should change it with File, Open Database. If the bottom says C:\BK6\Data Then pick File, Restore data files. John Steed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Cook" <bscccook@rogers.com> To: <BK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 8:24 PM Subject: [BK] restoring BK Files in Windows 7 > HELP! > > I have converted to Windows 7 on a new machine from XP on an older > machine. I have backed up my BK files in XP on my old machine which were > located at C:\BK6\(DATA). I am trying to restore them to BK in Win 7 from > a CD in D drive. When I attempt to do so the dialog box states “This > routine will copy files from your backup disk to C:\Program Files\Brother’s > Keeper 6” It also shows on the “Restore” button the correct location and > file name for the restore to take place. However, my understanding is that > the data files should not be under C:\Program Files. > > I would like to restore the files to C:\BK6\(DATA). How do I do that? > > Bill C. > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

HELP! I have converted to Windows 7 on a new machine from XP on an older machine. I have backed up my BK files in XP on my old machine which were located at C:\BK6\(DATA). I am trying to restore them to BK in Win 7 from a CD in D drive. When I attempt to do so the dialog box states “This routine will copy files from your backup disk to C:\Program Files\Brother’s Keeper 6” It also shows on the “Restore” button the correct location and file name for the restore to take place. However, my understanding is that the data files should not be under C:\Program Files. I would like to restore the files to C:\BK6\(DATA). How do I do that? Bill C.

HELP! I have converted to Windows 7 on a new machine from XP on an older machine. I have backed up my BK files in XP on my old machine which were located at C:\BK6\(DATA). I am trying to restore them to BK in Win 7 from a CD in D drive. When I attempt to do so the dialog box states “This routine will copy files from your backup disk to C:\Program Files\Brother’s Keeper 6” It also shows on the “Restore” button the correct location and file name for the restore to take place. However, my understanding is that the data files should not be under C:\Program Files. I would like to restore the files to C:\BK6\(DATA). How do I do that? Bill C.

File Location Change Location globally Type in the first few letters of the location you want to change, then key F8 and select which you want to change. You can enter similar entries to change on separate lines. Then in the box at the bottom type in what you want the location/s changed to. Keith Wellington, NZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Youse" <dhyouse@comcast.net> To: <bk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 11:45 AM Subject: [BK] suggestions > I’m up to about 8000 names in my database now and find that I need to > clean up many of the past entries. > > Specifically I’d like to be able to go through the Descriptions to > consolidate duplicates, e.g., change [Reading, PA] to [Reading, Berks Co, > PA], and to correct misspellings that make two descriptions where one > would be correct, e.g., [...Pittsburg...] and [...Pittsburgh...]. Is > there a way to do this without finding each of the records individually > and changing them one at a time? Also, I’d like to see a utility that > would find each record with an Event that doesn’t have any date, > location/description, note, source or witness attached, and delete that > event. > > A small note of something that doesn’t affect me in any but isn’t quite > right, on the left side of the Edit page, where the radio buttons for > Male, Female and Unknown are aligned vertically, the center button (for > Female) is slightly cut off at the top, along with the tops of the letters > in “Female”. The tops of the “F” and “l” are cut off in line with the > tops of the “e, m, a and e”. The button works as expected. I’m using > version 6.5.5 and Windows 7, 64-bit. > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

Dear Jim, Thanks for your mail, but I have a question. If I understood you very well, you show the case of adopted children. Do you have of them also the natural parents in the database? That is the case in my situation natural parents and foster parents (not adopted). I could not see that in your example. Fine that you try to help me. With my best regards, Max van Dam Rechovot Israel http://www.maxvandam.info/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Dell To: bk@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 2:46 AM Subject: Re: [BK] Natural parents and foster parents Max, I hate to disagree in my BK 6.5.6 version of BK the following is generated 0 @I2245@ INDI Items deleted and not necessary for this discussion 1 FAMC @F699@ 1 FAMC @F613@ 1 ADOP 2 FAMC @F699@ As you can see he is assigned to two different families. If you search the GEDCOM for @F613@ you'll find 0 @F613@ FAM 1 HUSB @I1732@ 1 WIFE @I1750@ 1 CHIL @I2245@ 1 CHIL @I2246@ 1 CHIL @I2247@ If you search of @F699@ you'll find 0 @F699@ FAM 1 HUSB @I2244@ 1 WIFE @I1728@ 1 CHIL @I2245@ 2 _FREL Adopted 2 _MREL Adopted 1 CHIL @I2246@ 2 _FREL Adopted 2 _MREL Adopted 1 CHIL @I2247@ 2 _FREL Adopted 2 _MREL Adopted So I am saying, at least with my copy of BK it's doing it correctly. And I just checked it imports both sets of parents into FTM 2012. Jim -----Original Message----- From: bk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Max van Dam Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 7:08 PM To: bk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BK] Natural parents and foster parents Thanks Jim. For this moment I think also that there is a problem in BK. With my best regards, Max van Dam Rechovot Israel http://www.maxvandam.info/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Ramaley To: bk@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 12:52 AM Subject: Re: [BK] Natural parents and foster parents Max, I do not have the latest version, but It is very easy to see if it is a problem with BK. 1. Choose any person with two sets of persons; say it is person #1. 2. In the Gedcom export dialog box, click "Selected People" 3. In the number of generations, put 2. 4. In the "Select the people to copy to the Gedcom file", click "Ancestors of a person" 5. In the Select person" box, put the number of the person with two sets of parents: in my example, #1 6. If both sets of parents were actually selected, the next screen (actually the "Select the people..." again) would show 5 people selected -- the person with 2 parents and both sets of parents (if they are all distinct). In the version I am using, only 3 people are selected. You have brought up a serious question. Jim R Gettysburg, PA ----- Original Message ----- From: Max van Dam To: bk@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 4:16 PM Subject: Re: [BK] Natural parents and foster parents Dear Otto, I work with BK 6.5.6 I did indeed the steps as you mentioned. I have made a gedcom starting by myself and a gedcom starting with my mother. In these gedcoms I miss my fosterparents. If I make a gedcom starting with my foster-parents than I miss my natural parents. I had hoped to see something like two marriages. I'm not sure that it is not a problem in BK. With my best regards, Max van Dam Rechovot Israel http://www.maxvandam.info/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Otto Jørgensen To: bk@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:57 PM Subject: Re: [BK] Natural parents and foster parents On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 21:35:11 +0200, "Max van Dam" <vandam@actcom.co.il> wrote: >I need your help. > >After WO II I was an orphan. After WO II I have had foster parents. >They have treated me as their own son, but did not adopt me >afficially. > >I have now the following problem. > >It is no problem in BK to connect both parents families to me, but if I make >a gedcom and bring that to the program to the program which I use to >publish my database, I see than only the connection between my >foster-parents and me. > >For this moment I do not know in which program is the problem either BK > or HUMO-gen that I use for my site. > >Can somebody tell me is there an official gedcom code for foster parents? > I believe you use latest versikon of BK I believe you have added you as foster to Your Fosterparents and that you also have marked the bilogical parents as BK tells you. You can then make a short gedcom from BK and open if in Notepad and see that you have "all parents" in the Gedcom file. I believe the problem is in the program you use to present the result, not BK. You can see a report in BK where it says who is your bilogical parents and who are your fosterparents -- Otto Jørgensen http://www.bkwin.info/ All email is checked by NORTON Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Max, If you go to my example below: Concerning individual #2245 his natural parents are 1732 & 1750 (family 613) and his adopted parents are 2244 & 1728 (family 699). Jim -----Original Message----- From: bk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Max van Dam Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 1:41 AM To: bk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BK] Natural parents and foster parents Dear Jim, Thanks for your mail, but I have a question. If I understood you very well, you show the case of adopted children. Do you have of them also the natural parents in the database? That is the case in my situation natural parents and foster parents (not adopted). I could not see that in your example. Fine that you try to help me. With my best regards, Max van Dam Rechovot Israel http://www.maxvandam.info/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Dell To: bk@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 2:46 AM Subject: Re: [BK] Natural parents and foster parents Max, I hate to disagree in my BK 6.5.6 version of BK the following is generated 0 @I2245@ INDI Items deleted and not necessary for this discussion 1 FAMC @F699@ 1 FAMC @F613@ 1 ADOP 2 FAMC @F699@ As you can see he is assigned to two different families. If you search the GEDCOM for @F613@ you'll find 0 @F613@ FAM 1 HUSB @I1732@ 1 WIFE @I1750@ 1 CHIL @I2245@ 1 CHIL @I2246@ 1 CHIL @I2247@ If you search of @F699@ you'll find 0 @F699@ FAM 1 HUSB @I2244@ 1 WIFE @I1728@ 1 CHIL @I2245@ 2 _FREL Adopted 2 _MREL Adopted 1 CHIL @I2246@ 2 _FREL Adopted 2 _MREL Adopted 1 CHIL @I2247@ 2 _FREL Adopted 2 _MREL Adopted So I am saying, at least with my copy of BK it's doing it correctly. And I just checked it imports both sets of parents into FTM 2012. Jim -----Original Message----- From: bk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Max van Dam Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 7:08 PM To: bk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BK] Natural parents and foster parents Thanks Jim. For this moment I think also that there is a problem in BK. With my best regards, Max van Dam Rechovot Israel http://www.maxvandam.info/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Ramaley To: bk@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 12:52 AM Subject: Re: [BK] Natural parents and foster parents Max, I do not have the latest version, but It is very easy to see if it is a problem with BK. 1. Choose any person with two sets of persons; say it is person #1. 2. In the Gedcom export dialog box, click "Selected People" 3. In the number of generations, put 2. 4. In the "Select the people to copy to the Gedcom file", click "Ancestors of a person" 5. In the Select person" box, put the number of the person with two sets of parents: in my example, #1 6. If both sets of parents were actually selected, the next screen (actually the "Select the people..." again) would show 5 people selected -- the person with 2 parents and both sets of parents (if they are all distinct). In the version I am using, only 3 people are selected. You have brought up a serious question. Jim R Gettysburg, PA ----- Original Message ----- From: Max van Dam To: bk@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 4:16 PM Subject: Re: [BK] Natural parents and foster parents Dear Otto, I work with BK 6.5.6 I did indeed the steps as you mentioned. I have made a gedcom starting by myself and a gedcom starting with my mother. In these gedcoms I miss my fosterparents. If I make a gedcom starting with my foster-parents than I miss my natural parents. I had hoped to see something like two marriages. I'm not sure that it is not a problem in BK. With my best regards, Max van Dam Rechovot Israel http://www.maxvandam.info/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Otto Jørgensen To: bk@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:57 PM Subject: Re: [BK] Natural parents and foster parents On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 21:35:11 +0200, "Max van Dam" <vandam@actcom.co.il> wrote: >I need your help. > >After WO II I was an orphan. After WO II I have had foster parents. >They have treated me as their own son, but did not adopt me >afficially. > >I have now the following problem. > >It is no problem in BK to connect both parents families to me, but if I make >a gedcom and bring that to the program to the program which I use to >publish my database, I see than only the connection between my >foster-parents and me. > >For this moment I do not know in which program is the problem either BK > or HUMO-gen that I use for my site. > >Can somebody tell me is there an official gedcom code for foster parents? > I believe you use latest versikon of BK I believe you have added you as foster to Your Fosterparents and that you also have marked the bilogical parents as BK tells you. You can then make a short gedcom from BK and open if in Notepad and see that you have "all parents" in the Gedcom file. I believe the problem is in the program you use to present the result, not BK. You can see a report in BK where it says who is your bilogical parents and who are your fosterparents -- Otto Jørgensen http://www.bkwin.info/ All email is checked by NORTON Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Jim. For this moment I think also that there is a problem in BK. With my best regards, Max van Dam Rechovot Israel http://www.maxvandam.info/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Ramaley To: bk@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 12:52 AM Subject: Re: [BK] Natural parents and foster parents Max, I do not have the latest version, but It is very easy to see if it is a problem with BK. 1. Choose any person with two sets of persons; say it is person #1. 2. In the Gedcom export dialog box, click "Selected People" 3. In the number of generations, put 2. 4. In the "Select the people to copy to the Gedcom file", click "Ancestors of a person" 5. In the Select person" box, put the number of the person with two sets of parents: in my example, #1 6. If both sets of parents were actually selected, the next screen (actually the "Select the people..." again) would show 5 people selected -- the person with 2 parents and both sets of parents (if they are all distinct). In the version I am using, only 3 people are selected. You have brought up a serious question. Jim R Gettysburg, PA ----- Original Message ----- From: Max van Dam To: bk@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 4:16 PM Subject: Re: [BK] Natural parents and foster parents Dear Otto, I work with BK 6.5.6 I did indeed the steps as you mentioned. I have made a gedcom starting by myself and a gedcom starting with my mother. In these gedcoms I miss my fosterparents. If I make a gedcom starting with my foster-parents than I miss my natural parents. I had hoped to see something like two marriages. I'm not sure that it is not a problem in BK. With my best regards, Max van Dam Rechovot Israel http://www.maxvandam.info/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Otto Jørgensen To: bk@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:57 PM Subject: Re: [BK] Natural parents and foster parents On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 21:35:11 +0200, "Max van Dam" <vandam@actcom.co.il> wrote: >I need your help. > >After WO II I was an orphan. After WO II I have had foster parents. >They have treated me as their own son, but did not adopt me >afficially. > >I have now the following problem. > >It is no problem in BK to connect both parents families to me, but if I make >a gedcom and bring that to the program to the program which I use to >publish my database, I see than only the connection between my >foster-parents and me. > >For this moment I do not know in which program is the problem either BK > or HUMO-gen that I use for my site. > >Can somebody tell me is there an official gedcom code for foster parents? > I believe you use latest versikon of BK I believe you have added you as foster to Your Fosterparents and that you also have marked the bilogical parents as BK tells you. You can then make a short gedcom from BK and open if in Notepad and see that you have "all parents" in the Gedcom file. I believe the problem is in the program you use to present the result, not BK. You can see a report in BK where it says who is your bilogical parents and who are your fosterparents -- Otto Jørgensen http://www.bkwin.info/ All email is checked by NORTON Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Jim, Your answer and my answer to Otto has crossed each other. If I make a gedcom, I do not get both parents couples in the gedcom. So I'm not sure that it is a problem of the other program. I work with HuMo-gen a very good PHP program in The Netherlands. With my best regards, Max van Dam Rechovot Israel http://www.maxvandam.info/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Dell To: bk@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 11:32 PM Subject: Re: [BK] Natural parents and foster parents Max, Did you try creating a new data base in BK and reading the GEDCOM in and seeing how many parents it shows for you? If it show all of them then the problem is with the other program. What is the name of the other program? Jim -----Original Message----- From: bk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Max van Dam Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 4:17 PM To: bk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BK] Natural parents and foster parents Dear Otto, I work with BK 6.5.6 I did indeed the steps as you mentioned. I have made a gedcom starting by myself and a gedcom starting with my mother. In these gedcoms I miss my fosterparents. If I make a gedcom starting with my foster-parents than I miss my natural parents. I had hoped to see something like two marriages. I'm not sure that it is not a problem in BK. With my best regards, Max van Dam Rechovot Israel http://www.maxvandam.info/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Otto Jørgensen To: bk@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:57 PM Subject: Re: [BK] Natural parents and foster parents On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 21:35:11 +0200, "Max van Dam" <vandam@actcom.co.il> wrote: >I need your help. > >After WO II I was an orphan. After WO II I have had foster parents. >They have treated me as their own son, but did not adopt me >afficially. > >I have now the following problem. > >It is no problem in BK to connect both parents families to me, but if I make >a gedcom and bring that to the program to the program which I use to >publish my database, I see than only the connection between my >foster-parents and me. > >For this moment I do not know in which program is the problem either BK > or HUMO-gen that I use for my site. > >Can somebody tell me is there an official gedcom code for foster parents? > I believe you use latest versikon of BK I believe you have added you as foster to Your Fosterparents and that you also have marked the bilogical parents as BK tells you. You can then make a short gedcom from BK and open if in Notepad and see that you have "all parents" in the Gedcom file. I believe the problem is in the program you use to present the result, not BK. You can see a report in BK where it says who is your bilogical parents and who are your fosterparents -- Otto Jørgensen http://www.bkwin.info/ All email is checked by NORTON Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

John, Although Max will speak for himself, I believe he is working on ancestors -- that is he is discussing his own foster parents. There are two ways that he can do what he wishes to do, but both require some manual work. The first way follows an idea similar to the one you put forth. Suppose he is trying to show the lines of both his natural parents and his foster parents. First choose ancestors and then choose himself. In order to get ancestors of his secondary parents he needs to do another select (ancestors) on EACH of his secondary parents. Then all of the correct records have been chosen and the GEDCOM is generated with all the correct links. If he wants only the names of his foster parents then he has to get their BK number and add each of them separately as a range of BK numbers (the range being only 1 number long for each). Another way that would allow him to show foster parents -- but not their own ancestors -- is to use the concept of "event." Right now you have an individual event called "Adopted By". If his foster parents had actually adopted him then he could add the event "Adopted By" to his record. To read correctly, the date field has to be blank and the preposition field (in, or, near,...) must be set to blank as well. If, however, he wants the wording to be "Foster parents are", then create this as an event and add it to his BK record. Again, to read correctly the date field has to be blank, as does the preposition field. However, since an event he "creates" will probably not be a GEDCOM event, it might be better to add the information using some standard event (such as EVENT) and in the description field put "Foster Parented by James and Susan Foster". In this case a date can be added and it will read correctly. In any event (no pun intended), I don't think it is necessary to make a programmatic change for this. Jim R ----- Original Message ----- From: John Steed To: bk@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 11:04 PM Subject: Re: [BK] Natural parents and foster parents To Max Just to clarify, you are making the gedcom file and picking "Descendants of" someone, is that correct? If so, I think it will only show the parents that are in the descendant line. If you make a gedcom file with the entire database, it should show both sets of parents. I could modify it to have it include both sets of parents. When you make the gedcom file and you Select people, you do know that you can select more than one group, right? Pick Descendants of your your foster parents, then again pick Desdendants of your other parents, then pick Copy. John Steed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Max van Dam" <vandam@actcom.co.il> To: <bk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 2:35 PM Subject: [BK] Natural parents and foster parents >I need your help. > > After WO II I was an orphan. After WO II I have had foster parents. They > have treated me as their own son, but did not adopt me officially. > > I have now the following problem. > > It is no problem in BK to connect both parents families to me, but if I > make a gedcom and bring that to the program to the program which I use to > publish my database, I see than only the connection between my > foster-parents and me. > > For this moment I do not know in which program is the problem either BK or > HUMO-gen that I use for my site. > > Can somebody tell me is there an official gedcom code for foster parents? > > With my best regards, > > Max van Dam > Rechovot > Israel > http://www.maxvandam.info/ > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 17:45:13 -0500, "David Youse" <dhyouse@comcast.net> wrote: >I’m up to about 8000 names in my database now and find that I need to clean up many of the past entries. > >Specifically I’d like to be able to go through the Descriptions to consolidate duplicates, e.g., change [Reading, PA] to [Reading, Berks Co, PA], and to correct misspellings that make two descriptions where one would be correct, e.g., [...Pittsburg...] and [...Pittsburgh...]. Is there a way to do this without finding each of the records individually and changing them one at a time? Also, I’d like to see a utility that would find each record with an Event that doesn’t have any date, location/description, note, source or witness attached, and delete that event. If it are location you can make taht by goin g to file, location for text all over use word search and find all places to change. It is dagerous to change all wothout knowing where the cahnge is dome There are many facilities at Word search. See Search for blank event -- Otto Jørgensen http://www.bkwin.info/ All email is checked by NORTON

Dear Otto, I work with BK 6.5.6 I did indeed the steps as you mentioned. I have made a gedcom starting by myself and a gedcom starting with my mother. In these gedcoms I miss my fosterparents. If I make a gedcom starting with my foster-parents than I miss my natural parents. I had hoped to see something like two marriages. I'm not sure that it is not a problem in BK. With my best regards, Max van Dam Rechovot Israel http://www.maxvandam.info/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Otto Jørgensen To: bk@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:57 PM Subject: Re: [BK] Natural parents and foster parents On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 21:35:11 +0200, "Max van Dam" <vandam@actcom.co.il> wrote: >I need your help. > >After WO II I was an orphan. After WO II I have had foster parents. >They have treated me as their own son, but did not adopt me >afficially. > >I have now the following problem. > >It is no problem in BK to connect both parents families to me, but if I make >a gedcom and bring that to the program to the program which I use to >publish my database, I see than only the connection between my >foster-parents and me. > >For this moment I do not know in which program is the problem either BK > or HUMO-gen that I use for my site. > >Can somebody tell me is there an official gedcom code for foster parents? > I believe you use latest versikon of BK I believe you have added you as foster to Your Fosterparents and that you also have marked the bilogical parents as BK tells you. You can then make a short gedcom from BK and open if in Notepad and see that you have "all parents" in the Gedcom file. I believe the problem is in the program you use to present the result, not BK. You can see a report in BK where it says who is your bilogical parents and who are your fosterparents -- Otto Jørgensen http://www.bkwin.info/ All email is checked by NORTON Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

To Max Just to clarify, you are making the gedcom file and picking "Descendants of" someone, is that correct? If so, I think it will only show the parents that are in the descendant line. If you make a gedcom file with the entire database, it should show both sets of parents. I could modify it to have it include both sets of parents. When you make the gedcom file and you Select people, you do know that you can select more than one group, right? Pick Descendants of your your foster parents, then again pick Desdendants of your other parents, then pick Copy. John Steed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Max van Dam" <vandam@actcom.co.il> To: <bk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 2:35 PM Subject: [BK] Natural parents and foster parents >I need your help. > > After WO II I was an orphan. After WO II I have had foster parents. They > have treated me as their own son, but did not adopt me officially. > > I have now the following problem. > > It is no problem in BK to connect both parents families to me, but if I > make a gedcom and bring that to the program to the program which I use to > publish my database, I see than only the connection between my > foster-parents and me. > > For this moment I do not know in which program is the problem either BK or > HUMO-gen that I use for my site. > > Can somebody tell me is there an official gedcom code for foster parents? > > With my best regards, > > Max van Dam > Rechovot > Israel > http://www.maxvandam.info/ > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >