Hi - It is my understanding that an unknown surname is represented by [—?—], or if this does not print correctly in this e-mail message, it would be a left square bracket, em dash, question mark, em dash, right square bracket. The em dash is no problem because the printer code works fine in BK. It does not show up properly in the database on screen, but prints properly. However, the square brackets are a problem in BK. No matter what I do they will not print. Is there a solution? Thanks. Carole

Carole, When I don't know a given person's name, I simply give the name as UNKNOWN. Yes, I end up with lots of UNKNOWNs. Sometimes the given name will be known, then I type that name, Jane for example, and use UNKNOWN for the maiden surname. When it is a male, the surname may be known, but not the given name, then I would have UNKNOWN JONES or unknown JONES. A search might benefit by the use of a Question Mark. But other than that, I don't know why you want a symbol? Kay Chestnut ----- Original Message ----- From: Carole Edwards Caruso To: BK@rootsweb.com Sent: 2012-04-17 03:00 Subject: [BK] Surname Unknown Hi - It is my understanding that an unknown surname is represented by [?], or if this does not print correctly in this e-mail message, it would be a left square bracket, em dash, question mark, em dash, right square bracket. The em dash is no problem because the printer code works fine in BK. It does not show up properly in the database on screen, but prints properly. However, the square brackets are a problem in BK. No matter what I do they will not print. Is there a solution? Thanks. Carole Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

To David Bartelt Thanks for the suggestions. The next update will have a button on the picture source screen to "open with default program" I will consider adding a button to add a file from the Media folder. John Steed ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Bartelt" <dybartelt@comcast.net> To: "BK Mailing List" <bk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 12:28 PM Subject: [BK] Pictures of files for source citation screen >A suggestion for John Steed. > > Suggestion: > Add a button for MEDIA and TEXT folders to the "Add picture/file to > citation"/"Pictures of files for source citation" on the source screen. > And, as with the "Open with default picture program" feature found on the > EDIT SCREEN/PICTURES tab, possibly add that feature to the "Pictures of > files for source citation" screen. > > Reason for suggestion: > On the Source screen, clicking the "Add picture/file to citation" will > bring up the "Pictures of files for source citation" page. > On this page is the button to "Add picture or file". When clicked, the > "Select picture file or other file" popup appears and it is logged into > the database PICTURE folder. > To save the file to the MEDIA or TEXT folder, one needs to click up and > down in the popup. > > I have been using the PICTURE folder for (basically) portrait shots that I > might want to have on the various reports. > I keep images of death certificates, marriage licenses, scanned newspaper > articles, message board posts and whatnot - these being more of "source > materials" - in the MEDIA or Text folders. And I find that MEDIA folder > route is more frequently used than to the PICTURE folder. > > Not a major item but would avoid the need to click up to the data folder > and then down to the MEDIA or TEXT folder when entering an item. > > This is a handy feature I'm just now starting to make use of. > ______________ > As a side note - maybe a piece of helpful info - for those Windows > Explorer type popups asking for a filename, such as you get when you click > EDIT SCREEN - ADD MEDIA FILE, if you already have a pathname on the > clipboard, you can just paste that pathname into the "file name" box and > it will put the file into the proper folder regardless of the logged > folder on the popup. > > For instance, when I started with BK, I made a separate folder - not under > the data folder - for census images (yes, I save them and I wonder about > it to). I get most of them from HeritageQuest which when you click to save > the image will give you a new screen with relevant census page > information. I made an Excel page with various conversions - one of which > being the HeritageQuest info - which transforms their format into that > which I use for the BK "ADD MEDIA FILE" and source information. So, I copy > and paste the HeritageQuest data into my Excel conversion and one of the > results is a pathname for the census page. That then is just copied and > pasted into BK info areas, and specifically for the image data to EDIT > SCREEN - ADD MEDIA FILE. > > Pathname (for instance) = D:\BK\Census\ (1840 U.S. Census) KENTUCKY, OWEN, > NO TWP LISTED M704-122 Page 196A.tif, where > Filename (in this case) = (1840 U.S. Census) KENTUCKY, OWEN, NO TWP LISTED > M704-122 Page 196A.tif > > Don't ask about the parenthesis around the "(1840 U.S. Census)" - for some > reason I just started that way and haven't gotten around to changing it. > LOL. > > The point being that if you already have a pathname on the clipboard, you > can just paste that pathname into any Windows Explorer Select "file name" > box and it will put the file into the proper folder regardless of the > logged folder on the popup. > > Using the Excel conversions for a number of data items in this manner has > saved much time in logging information to BK. Not particulary relevant to > the suggestion above - those being "one off" type of entries - but when > you gyrate some "complex" info into your own formated bits and pieces it > can save some time, helps to standardize your entries and avoids > transcription errors. > > David Bartelt > > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >

A suggestion for John Steed. Suggestion: Add a button for MEDIA and TEXT folders to the "Add picture/file to citation"/"Pictures of files for source citation" on the source screen. And, as with the "Open with default picture program" feature found on the EDIT SCREEN/PICTURES tab, possibly add that feature to the "Pictures of files for source citation" screen. Reason for suggestion: On the Source screen, clicking the "Add picture/file to citation" will bring up the "Pictures of files for source citation" page. On this page is the button to "Add picture or file". When clicked, the "Select picture file or other file" popup appears and it is logged into the database PICTURE folder. To save the file to the MEDIA or TEXT folder, one needs to click up and down in the popup. I have been using the PICTURE folder for (basically) portrait shots that I might want to have on the various reports. I keep images of death certificates, marriage licenses, scanned newspaper articles, message board posts and whatnot - these being more of "source materials" - in the MEDIA or Text folders. And I find that MEDIA folder route is more frequently used than to the PICTURE folder. Not a major item but would avoid the need to click up to the data folder and then down to the MEDIA or TEXT folder when entering an item. This is a handy feature I'm just now starting to make use of. ______________ As a side note - maybe a piece of helpful info - for those Windows Explorer type popups asking for a filename, such as you get when you click EDIT SCREEN - ADD MEDIA FILE, if you already have a pathname on the clipboard, you can just paste that pathname into the "file name" box and it will put the file into the proper folder regardless of the logged folder on the popup. For instance, when I started with BK, I made a separate folder - not under the data folder - for census images (yes, I save them and I wonder about it to). I get most of them from HeritageQuest which when you click to save the image will give you a new screen with relevant census page information. I made an Excel page with various conversions - one of which being the HeritageQuest info - which transforms their format into that which I use for the BK "ADD MEDIA FILE" and source information. So, I copy and paste the HeritageQuest data into my Excel conversion and one of the results is a pathname for the census page. That then is just copied and pasted into BK info areas, and specifically for the image data to EDIT SCREEN - ADD MEDIA FILE. Pathname (for instance) = D:\BK\Census\ (1840 U.S. Census) KENTUCKY, OWEN, NO TWP LISTED M704-122 Page 196A.tif, where Filename (in this case) = (1840 U.S. Census) KENTUCKY, OWEN, NO TWP LISTED M704-122 Page 196A.tif Don't ask about the parenthesis around the "(1840 U.S. Census)" - for some reason I just started that way and haven't gotten around to changing it. LOL. The point being that if you already have a pathname on the clipboard, you can just paste that pathname into any Windows Explorer Select "file name" box and it will put the file into the proper folder regardless of the logged folder on the popup. Using the Excel conversions for a number of data items in this manner has saved much time in logging information to BK. Not particulary relevant to the suggestion above - those being "one off" type of entries - but when you gyrate some "complex" info into your own formated bits and pieces it can save some time, helps to standardize your entries and avoids transcription errors. David Bartelt

In message <BLU0-SMTP218D38F2FD6808C2524166BF350@phx.gbl>, Dave Bradshaw <davebradshaw@sympatico.ca> writes: >Hello John: [] > File not found c\bk6\text\chester_retire.txt [] >I look forward to what you think might be a solution to the problem. [] Would Lists | Word search report | Any field (probably just "chester_retire", or even just "r_r", as the search phrase) find it? I'd pick "Search both", and tick all the boxes. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Call it incest - but I want my mummy

Sorry, my reply post to "Brian BT" crossed with yours below. In message <959B7238AC834AA2A34DD3D5EBDB4A31@Dell4600>, John Steed <brothers_keeper@msn.com> writes: >To J. P. Gilliver > >I do not currently have a way to scroll the pictures left and right. No, I just wondered if it could be considered. > >However, to see the full file name, click one time on a picture name on >the grid then press the END key on the keyboard one time (instead of >using the right arrow) Will do. (Unfortunately I'm on a small-format machine where the End key is one of those Fn things - in this case Fn plus PgDn. Infuriating, especially since I have a W95-vintage laptop where they managed to keep the sixpack keys without needing any Fn!) > >Also, if your path for pictures is long, you can use the mouse to widen >the column for Picture File Name. Put you mouse on the vertical bar >that is between the headings >of "Picture file name" and "Ind/Family". When the cursor shows left >and right arrows, click and drag the vertical bar to the right to make >the column wider to see the long names. That's what Brian BT suggested. I'll do it (-:! [] -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Call it incest - but I want my mummy

In message <4F8538A6.80109@btinternet.com>, Brian BT <brian.greenway1@btinternet.com> writes: >Hi John, > >On 11/04/2012 08:33, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: >> When in the pictures tab, I see up to about five or six thumbnail >> images, horizontally, above the list of file references. The list of >> file references is scrollable vertically; it would be nice if the strip >> of thumbnails had a horizontal slider, so I could move along them like a >> strip of film. (With maybe tooltips so I could hover over them to see >> which file.) > > >When looking for the filename, I find it easier to extend the File name >box length by moving the RH divisor to the right. OK, though you then have to move it back again afterwards. That was a minor thing, anyway - I wouldn't like it to distract from any chance of being able to scroll the "filmstrip" horizontally. > >> Also, since the file reference shows the whole filename with path, I >> usually can't see the actual filename - so if I want to, I click into >> that field, and right-arrow to the end. But if I go one right-arrow too >> many, the focus leaves that field - and then pressing left-arrow >> _doesn't_ put me back. > >Brian > Remember - Use the Archives at >http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Call it incest - but I want my mummy

In message <IKvyv0gFWThPFw+m@soft255.demon.co.uk>, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG@soft255.demon.co.uk> writes: >In message <8C636FFAF5D547BBA5FB10867746655E@Dell4600>, John Steed ><brothers_keeper@msn.com> writes: >>To J P Gilliver >> >>If you get error 86 you must stop the computer and restart the computer >>to clear that error. >> >>John Steed >> >Thanks. I'm still getting it, but then I have had to crash BK again - >I'll try to remember to do a BK save next time I reboot _before_ doing >what seems to have caused that necessity. >[] >>> I _did_ have to crash BK earlier: I was using the "compute relationship" >>> function, and it got into a mode where it wouldn't let me out of that >>> mode (the "Close" button pressed but didn't quit the "relationship" >>> mode). I subsequently used that mode and it _did_ let me out. >[] >A little more on this problem: it might have something to do with the >fact that I was alt-tabbing to another application and back (the >LostCousins website, which requires Ahnentafel number, which is why I >was using the "compute relationship" function); it seemed to be more >when I switched back from that (i. e. the Firefox browser) that it >wouldn't let me quit the "compute relationship" screen. Though I can't >say it always didn't, only sometimes. I just opened BK for the first time since the last reboot, and immediately closed it again - choosing to do a backup - and it did so without any problem. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Call it incest - but I want my mummy

Hello John: While doing my latest full backup of BK I ran into this record problem. It is the only one that shows up. I understand what the diagnostic is telling me but am at a loss as to how to find and fix the record. The text file was renamed quite a while back into retirement chester bradshaw.txt. I have looked at all the N events for chester bradshaw and the only ones that are there are the proper text files. The error report shows the following: File not found c\bk6\text\chester_retire.txt error 53 Text file is attached to N column for an event (person number not known) In my listing of text files the one referenced in the report is not listed. I look forward to what you think might be a solution to the problem. Thank you, Dave Bradshaw

To J. P. Gilliver I do not currently have a way to scroll the pictures left and right. However, to see the full file name, click one time on a picture name on the grid then press the END key on the keyboard one time (instead of using the right arrow) Also, if your path for pictures is long, you can use the mouse to widen the column for Picture File Name. Put you mouse on the vertical bar that is between the headings of "Picture file name" and "Ind/Family". When the cursor shows left and right arrows, click and drag the vertical bar to the right to make the column wider to see the long names. John Steed ----- Original Message ----- From: "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG@soft255.demon.co.uk> To: <bk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 3:33 AM Subject: [BK] images "filmstrip" - scroll controls? And sliding out offilename? > When in the pictures tab, I see up to about five or six thumbnail > images, horizontally, above the list of file references. The list of > file references is scrollable vertically; it would be nice if the strip > of thumbnails had a horizontal slider, so I could move along them like a > strip of film. (With maybe tooltips so I could hover over them to see > which file.) > > Also, since the file reference shows the whole filename with path, I > usually can't see the actual filename - so if I want to, I click into > that field, and right-arrow to the end. But if I go one right-arrow too > many, the focus leaves that field - and then pressing left-arrow > _doesn't_ put me back. > -- > J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf > > ... current law enforcement approaches to stem the flow of drugs only > manage > to seize about one per cent of the drug imports... - Professor David Nutt > (31 > July-6 August 2010) > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >

To Joe joe968@comcast.net It might be a bug that only happens with a certain combination of dates. If possible, send me a private email with the exact dates of the children. The easiest way is if you do a Group Sheet report for the father, and from the Group Sheet setup page pick File, Create TXT file and send me the TXT file with the names and dates of the children. Then I can enter a sample database with those dates and try to sort them and I should be able to fix the problem. John Steed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe" <joe968@comcast.net> To: <bk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 9:48 PM Subject: [BK] crash with rearrange order of large family >I get a crash when trying rearrange birth order with a family of 39 > children. This is not a real family but a collection of same surname > people that I'm tying to link and have an invented father to collect > them. They have a combination of full birth dates, partial birth dates > and blanks. When I select to rearrange order, sort by birth date, BK > shuts down with a message that it has encountered a problem and needs to > close with an option to send error report to Microsoft. I have another > family with 22 children that sorts properly. Instructions seem to permit > 75 children. Is this s a BK bug or a XP problem? Using BK v 6.5.8 and XP > Pro. > > Joe W > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >

Hi John, On 11/04/2012 08:33, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: > When in the pictures tab, I see up to about five or six thumbnail > images, horizontally, above the list of file references. The list of > file references is scrollable vertically; it would be nice if the strip > of thumbnails had a horizontal slider, so I could move along them like a > strip of film. (With maybe tooltips so I could hover over them to see > which file.) When looking for the filename, I find it easier to extend the File name box length by moving the RH divisor to the right. > Also, since the file reference shows the whole filename with path, I > usually can't see the actual filename - so if I want to, I click into > that field, and right-arrow to the end. But if I go one right-arrow too > many, the focus leaves that field - and then pressing left-arrow > _doesn't_ put me back. Brian

In message <8C636FFAF5D547BBA5FB10867746655E@Dell4600>, John Steed <brothers_keeper@msn.com> writes: >To J P Gilliver > >If you get error 86 you must stop the computer and restart the computer >to clear that error. > >John Steed > Thanks. I'm still getting it, but then I have had to crash BK again - I'll try to remember to do a BK save next time I reboot _before_ doing what seems to have caused that necessity. [] >> I _did_ have to crash BK earlier: I was using the "compute relationship" >> function, and it got into a mode where it wouldn't let me out of that >> mode (the "Close" button pressed but didn't quit the "relationship" >> mode). I subsequently used that mode and it _did_ let me out. [] A little more on this problem: it might have something to do with the fact that I was alt-tabbing to another application and back (the LostCousins website, which requires Ahnentafel number, which is why I was using the "compute relationship" function); it seemed to be more when I switched back from that (i. e. the Firefox browser) that it wouldn't let me quit the "compute relationship" screen. Though I can't say it always didn't, only sometimes. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf ... current law enforcement approaches to stem the flow of drugs only manage to seize about one per cent of the drug imports... - Professor David Nutt (31 July-6 August 2010)

When in the pictures tab, I see up to about five or six thumbnail images, horizontally, above the list of file references. The list of file references is scrollable vertically; it would be nice if the strip of thumbnails had a horizontal slider, so I could move along them like a strip of film. (With maybe tooltips so I could hover over them to see which file.) Also, since the file reference shows the whole filename with path, I usually can't see the actual filename - so if I want to, I click into that field, and right-arrow to the end. But if I go one right-arrow too many, the focus leaves that field - and then pressing left-arrow _doesn't_ put me back. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf ... current law enforcement approaches to stem the flow of drugs only manage to seize about one per cent of the drug imports... - Professor David Nutt (31 July-6 August 2010)

In message <4FBC528863EB4D078DCA798B8F060A95@DYB>, David Bartelt <dybartelt@comcast.net> writes: >My library has archived newspaper clippings from the 1860s to about >1920s. If there are multiple references I will type the text as the >Actual Text in the source and reference the pertinent info for each >person. But if it is a fairly simple reference, many times I will just >reference the image of the newspaper clipping which I have copied and >named. > >The ability to bring up the image in your own picture editor is a nice >feature. [] I sort of see. I'm wondering what you're using an _image_ as a _source_ for: perhaps events. Personally in those cases I'd reference the source using text - the source system allows you to have, say, "The Times", and a field to enter the page (etc.) reference. I'd also, if I had an actual image of the relevant page, add that as an image/picture under the person/people referred to. But we all do things different ways, and I presume it was for those who do as you do that the facility to add an image as a source was added. I hadn't realised - since I've never used that - that that doesn't have the "view with external software" feature: I agree, it ought to be there if it isn't, and was probably an oversight when it was added to the main image viewing pane. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf ... current law enforcement approaches to stem the flow of drugs only manage to seize about one per cent of the drug imports... - Professor David Nutt (31 July-6 August 2010)

In message <BLU0-SMTP7943E7D24AEC7BE12AF1FCBF340@phx.gbl>, Dave Bradshaw <davebradshaw@sympatico.ca> writes: >J.P. > >I think perhaps you misread my message. What I was asking pertains to the >source page when you press the "S". > >Dave Bradshaw > > Sorry, yes, I hadn't realised the source could be an image rather than text. I had spotted the facility to add an image to a source, but had always wondered why that was there - if I was going to add an image, I'd add it as an image (picture). Now I see why you might do it. John -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf a little bit of me still feels that some southerners think we northerners are issued at birth with doomed kestrels. - Alison Graham, Radio Times, 3-9/11/2007.

I get a crash when trying rearrange birth order with a family of 39 children. This is not a real family but a collection of same surname people that I'm tying to link and have an invented father to collect them. They have a combination of full birth dates, partial birth dates and blanks. When I select to rearrange order, sort by birth date, BK shuts down with a message that it has encountered a problem and needs to close with an option to send error report to Microsoft. I have another family with 22 children that sorts properly. Instructions seem to permit 75 children. Is this s a BK bug or a XP problem? Using BK v 6.5.8 and XP Pro. Joe W

My library has archived newspaper clippings from the 1860s to about 1920s. If there are multiple references I will type the text as the Actual Text in the source and reference the pertinent info for each person. But if it is a fairly simple reference, many times I will just reference the image of the newspaper clipping which I have copied and named. The ability to bring up the image in your own picture editor is a nice feature. ----- Original Message ----- From: "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG@soft255.demon.co.uk> To: <bk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [BK] Source showing on a page > In message <BLU0-SMTP7943E7D24AEC7BE12AF1FCBF340@phx.gbl>, Dave Bradshaw > <davebradshaw@sympatico.ca> writes: >>J.P. >> >>I think perhaps you misread my message. What I was asking pertains to the >>source page when you press the "S". >> >>Dave Bradshaw >> >> > Sorry, yes, I hadn't realised the source could be an image rather than > text. I had spotted the facility to add an image to a source, but had > always wondered why that was there - if I was going to add an image, I'd > add it as an image (picture). Now I see why you might do it. > > John > -- > J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf > > a little bit of me still feels that some southerners think we northerners > are > issued at birth with doomed kestrels. - Alison Graham, Radio Times, > 3-9/11/2007. > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

To J P Gilliver If you get error 86 you must stop the computer and restart the computer to clear that error. John Steed ----- Original Message ----- From: "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG@soft255.demon.co.uk> To: <bk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 8:49 PM Subject: [BK] error 86 > Trying to quit BK, I said yes to do a backup, and it's giving me an > error box "File: Error= 86 Sharing conflict" as it tries to backup > each file. Eventually it said "Backup complete" and did quit. I'll try > again: go into BK. Goes straight into edit, as I have it set to do so. > Close edit. Close BK. Say Yes. Backup files. Copy to where I always > have. Same error message again, for ten files. If I "stop without making > a backup", it quits fine. If I go back in and try to come out making a > backup, I get the error messages. > > I _did_ have to crash BK earlier: I was using the "compute relationship" > function, and it got into a mode where it wouldn't let me out of that > mode (the "Close" button pressed but didn't quit the "relationship" > mode). I subsequently used that mode and it _did_ let me out. > > I'll report if it works next time I reboot the PC. > -- > J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf > > A true-born Englishman does not know any language. He does not speak > English too > well either but, at least, he is not proud of this. He is, however, > immensely > proud of not knowing any foreign languages. (George Mikes, "How to be > Inimitable" [1960].) > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >

On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 07:26:55 -0400, Jack Ray <jackray2@gmail.com> wrote: >Yes, Otto. I know that. But, I was replying to another message. Most >users can convert, easily, from in to mm. > partly yes, but mostly not. It is important that all description do cover bothe mm and inc Normal eurpean do not use inc :) :) -- Otto Jørgensen http://www.bkwin.info/ All email is checked by NORTON