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[BK] has been spammed! ----- Original Message ----- From: "D O Styles" <stylesdo@hotmail.com> To: <rfbonner@hotmail.com>; <collegehillmaryville@gmail.com>; <gael@hotmail.com>; <anntoday@aol.com>; <pamsander@me.com>; <hobo@rabbitbrush.com>; <gaiatrio@yahoo.com>; <cassandra.reecce@stagparkway.com>; <bk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 8:21 AM Subject: [BK] (no subject) > > http://gourmetservicesinc.com/jjllrt.html?jjbb=udoyffkjff > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Gilles, I am not sure of the correct reason for the bold or not bold on the select person list, however I have found that the names are shown in bold unless the name is too long for the space so the bold is removed to fit the name in. I have found this theory very easy to replicate on the searches I do. I have no idea if this is the intention of the program or a side effect of something else. I would be interested to find out what the official difference is. Bye Karlena BK user for many years and versions. :-) -----Original Message----- From: Gilles de C. Paquette Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 2:11 PM To: BK - RootsWeb Subject: [BK] Bold or not bold Hi, When doing a search on the Edit screen using Find F3, in the list sometimes the names of the parents and/or spouse are bold, sometimes they are not. I checked some but I didn't find why. At times there are parents for the spouse, sometimes there are none. Or sometimes the couple has children and sometimes they don't. What is the rule for this bold or not bold? Thanks. Gilles Paquette Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

John, Please do not change it, leave it as it has always been. Works good for me. I have had Brother's Keeper since you first came out with the program. Lehman Tiller ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Steed" <brothers_keeper@msn.com> To: <bk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 2:41 PM Subject: Re: [BK] Bold or not bold > To Gilles > > The names are all in bold if they will fit. > > If they are too long, I change it to regular which allows about 10 percent > more space. > > I guess I should make an option to have all names not bold if it bothers > some people. > > John Steed > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gilles de C. Paquette" <paquette.gdec@videotron.ca> > To: "BK - RootsWeb" <bk@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 12:11 AM > Subject: [BK] Bold or not bold > > >> Hi, >> >> When doing a search on the Edit screen using Find F3, in the list >> sometimes the names of the parents and/or spouse are bold, sometimes >> they are not. >> >> I checked some but I didn't find why. At times there are parents for >> the spouse, sometimes there are none. Or sometimes the couple has >> children and sometimes they don't. >> >> What is the rule for this bold or not bold? >> >> Thanks. >> >> Gilles Paquette >> >> Remember - Use the Archives at >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message >> > > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

This was meant for Paguetee.gdec@videotron.ca. No need to publish on Bk@rootsweb.com On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 5:15 PM, Palekaiko <palekaiko@gmail.com> wrote: > I like the saying, "Going to bed a little smarter!" > > > On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Gilles de C. Paquette > <paquette.gdec@videotron.ca> wrote: >> Thank you John. >> >> Personnaly I don't need the option you mention.  Understanding why it is >> done this way is enough for me. >> >> Gilles >> >> Le 2012-06-28 14:41, John Steed a ecrit : >>> To Gilles >>> >>> The names are all in bold if they will fit. >>> >>> If they are too long, I change it to regular which allows about 10 >>> percent more space. >>> >>> I guess I should make an option to have all names not bold if it >>> bothers some people. >>> >>> John Steed >> >>  Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I like the saying, "Going to bed a little smarter!" On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Gilles de C. Paquette <paquette.gdec@videotron.ca> wrote: > Thank you John. > > Personnaly I don't need the option you mention.  Understanding why it is > done this way is enough for me. > > Gilles > > Le 2012-06-28 14:41, John Steed a ecrit : >> To Gilles >> >> The names are all in bold if they will fit. >> >> If they are too long, I change it to regular which allows about 10 >> percent more space. >> >> I guess I should make an option to have all names not bold if it >> bothers some people. >> >> John Steed > >  Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you John. Personnaly I don't need the option you mention. Understanding why it is done this way is enough for me. Gilles Le 2012-06-28 14:41, John Steed a ecrit : > To Gilles > > The names are all in bold if they will fit. > > If they are too long, I change it to regular which allows about 10 > percent more space. > > I guess I should make an option to have all names not bold if it > bothers some people. > > John Steed

On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 00:11:36 -0400, "Gilles de C. Paquette" <paquette.gdec@videotron.ca> wrote: >Hi, > >When doing a search on the Edit screen using Find F3, in the list >sometimes the names of the parents and/or spouse are bold, sometimes >they are not. > >I checked some but I didn't find why. At times there are parents for >the spouse, sometimes there are none. Or sometimes the couple has >children and sometimes they don't. > > What is the rule for this bold or not bold? you cant add names in BOLD, but the different reports have option so you can decide whether you will have the name printed in Bold -- Otto Jørgensen http://www.bkwin.info/ All email is checked by NORTON

To Gilles The names are all in bold if they will fit. If they are too long, I change it to regular which allows about 10 percent more space. I guess I should make an option to have all names not bold if it bothers some people. John Steed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gilles de C. Paquette" <paquette.gdec@videotron.ca> To: "BK - RootsWeb" <bk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 12:11 AM Subject: [BK] Bold or not bold > Hi, > > When doing a search on the Edit screen using Find F3, in the list > sometimes the names of the parents and/or spouse are bold, sometimes > they are not. > > I checked some but I didn't find why. At times there are parents for > the spouse, sometimes there are none. Or sometimes the couple has > children and sometimes they don't. > > What is the rule for this bold or not bold? > > Thanks. > > Gilles Paquette > > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, Thanks Karlena. I see I'm not the only one wondering about this. Upon further research, I think what you mention is correct: longer names are not shown in bold. As we say in french, I'll go to bed a little less stupid tonight... Gilles Le 2012-06-28 09:50, Karlena Nagle a ecrit : > Hi Gilles, > I am not sure of the correct reason for the bold or not bold on the select > person list, however I have found that the names are shown in bold unless > the name is too long for the space so the bold is removed to fit the name > in. I have found this theory very easy to replicate on the searches I do. I > have no idea if this is the intention of the program or a side effect of > something else. I would be interested to find out what the official > difference is. > Bye Karlena > BK user for many years and versions. :-)

Gilles, Check the length of the names involved. I think long names are not bold, because bold takes more room. Jim -----Original Message----- From: bk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Gilles de C. Paquette Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 12:12 AM To: BK - RootsWeb Subject: [BK] Bold or not bold Hi, When doing a search on the Edit screen using Find F3, in the list sometimes the names of the parents and/or spouse are bold, sometimes they are not. I checked some but I didn't find why. At times there are parents for the spouse, sometimes there are none. Or sometimes the couple has children and sometimes they don't. What is the rule for this bold or not bold? Thanks. Gilles Paquette Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My preference is to enter the surname in BOLD letters to make it stand out on the reports I print. If using bold for the surnames is not attractive to you when you are reading a report, use the lower case letters. It is always a matter of personal preference. But I do recommend that the entries be consistent throughout your work. Diane BK user since version 4.5b On 6/27/2012 11:11 PM, Gilles de C. Paquette wrote: > Hi, > > When doing a search on the Edit screen using Find F3, in the list > sometimes the names of the parents and/or spouse are bold, sometimes > they are not. > > I checked some but I didn't find why. At times there are parents for > the spouse, sometimes there are none. Or sometimes the couple has > children and sometimes they don't. > > What is the rule for this bold or not bold? > > Thanks. > > Gilles Paquette > > Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi, When doing a search on the Edit screen using Find F3, in the list sometimes the names of the parents and/or spouse are bold, sometimes they are not. I checked some but I didn't find why. At times there are parents for the spouse, sometimes there are none. Or sometimes the couple has children and sometimes they don't. What is the rule for this bold or not bold? Thanks. Gilles Paquette

On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 23:53:25 +0200, Pat Brown <mistyhaven@gmail.com> wrote: >Hi, > Just thought I would pass this on in case any one else has the same >idea. I have long wanted to combine BK and Google Earth so that I can >easily see, and show, places that are linked to individuals. An easy >way to do this is to open Google Earth and select the place you are >interested in. Select the altitude you would like displayed. Select >"Add Placemark". Give it a name. Right click on the placemark and >"Save" it to a folder on your desktop. Now open BK and go to the >individual related to the Placemark. Under "Media" select "Add Media >File" and select the Desktop Icon you have just created. Now when you >select this item in BK Google Earth will open and will fly directly to >the Placemark you have created. You can now easily show someone all >the places related to an individual or family. Hope this helps some >folk. >From Norwayh we have thought about mappinbg, and BK as some steps to that as there are place for maps coordinates under Details of Location. Doubleclick on a location and see more details. There are also details that we want to have as a addition locationlist, telling about those places wehere we have more information. That is better than have that information as footnotes og parateses in the text/biography of a person. I prefer that we use the location items to add more geographical information, also as that is allready there (only waiting for John) :) -- Otto Jørgensen http://www.bkwin.info/ All email is checked by NORTON

Hi, Just thought I would pass this on in case any one else has the same idea. I have long wanted to combine BK and Google Earth so that I can easily see, and show, places that are linked to individuals. An easy way to do this is to open Google Earth and select the place you are interested in. Select the altitude you would like displayed. Select "Add Placemark". Give it a name. Right click on the placemark and "Save" it to a folder on your desktop. Now open BK and go to the individual related to the Placemark. Under "Media" select "Add Media File" and select the Desktop Icon you have just created. Now when you select this item in BK Google Earth will open and will fly directly to the Placemark you have created. You can now easily show someone all the places related to an individual or family. Hope this helps some folk. Paddy

Thanks John. This all requires you to know that the ambiguity exists. Is there any way globally of allowing for such situations e.g. to always take "A B" and "A-B" as equivalent? JOHN B On 24 June 2012 19:44, John Steed <brothers_keeper@msn.com> wrote: > To John Bibby > > In your case, you have a last name with either a - or without a - > > The problem is that BK normally thinks the last word is the last name. > > So the space tells BK that the last name for the first one is just Ficklin > > So for the first person the last name is > > Ficklin > > And for your second person the last name is > > Berney-Ficklin > > When you do the search it can not match different last names of > "Berney-Ficklin" and "Ficklin" > > If you want, you can give them both the same last name and then the search > will work better > > Go to the person with the two part last name. > > On the Edit screen click on the Names tab in the middle of the screen. > > There you will see a field for Last Name and for Sort Name > > Type: Berney Ficklin   in the Last name field and also in the Sort name > field. > > Then when you search for this person, type a ? instead of the - > > So search for > > Alexander Berney?Ficklin > > Then it will find both of them > > The ? means it will match any character in the first or last name. > > John Steed > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Bibby" <johnbibbyjohnbibby@gmail.com> > To: <BK@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 9:02 AM > Subject: [BK] Similar names: 'Tennent ... Berney Ficklin' and > 'TennantBerney-Ficklin' > > >>I have a confusion of names! >> >> Alexander Tennent Mackintosh Berney Ficklin >> and >> Alexander Tennant Mackintosh Berney-Ficklin >> are definitely  the same individual. >> >> But BK gets as confused as I am when I search for them. >> >> Is there a good way of searching so that both forms of final name are >> regarded as equivalent? >> >> What do people usually do about situations like this? >> >> (There's the rather different question of which spellings are actually >> 'correct' - does anyone have views on this please?) >> >> Thanks >> >> JOHN B >> Remember - Use the Archives at >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message >> > >  Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

GENViewer - published by MudCreek. On 24/06/2012 15:54, Jim Dell wrote: > Pauline > What gedcom viewer are you using? > Jim >

Hi John Some of the notes are attached to Events and some are on the Notes tab on Edit, & all are internal text files. All the Notes seem to be included in the gedcom OK, and are showing up when I'm viewing individuals in my gedcom viewer program, but in the viewer's General Information about the gedcom, with all the gedcoms I've created with BK, it shows them as having zero Notes. Gedcoms created by other programs, however, are shown in the General Information report as having notes (where there are any). I guess it's not a major issue as the Notes seem to be exporting into the Gedcom OK, but I just wondered why my gedcom viewer program is counting the notes in gedcoms created by other programs, but not in BK gedcoms, even when created from the same original data, and if this indicated something amiss somewhere. Many thanks Pauline On 24/06/2012 13:43, John Steed wrote: > To Pauline akpak@balmnet.co.uk > > When you say Notes do you mean the notes under the Notes tab on Edit > or do you mean something on the Source screen? > > Go to Edit to view the person and see exactly where the note is located. > > There are general notes on the Notes tab for either Individual or Family > > There are also Event Notes attached to the Events grid on the N column. > > And there are notes you can type into a Source for an event. > > When you make a Gedcom file, if you have BK6.4 or 6.5, then turn on > the option there to pick which fields of the source to export. You can > turn off Abbreviation there since some programs will duplicate it when > importing the gedcom file. > > John Steed > > www.bkwin.com > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pauline & Arthur Kennedy" > <akpak@balmnet.co.uk> > To: <BK@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2012 11:39 AM > Subject: [BK] Creating Gedcoms > > >> Using the latest update to BK, yesterday I created some Gedcoms from >> some old BK databases which haven't been touched since conversion to BK6 >> in 2004, and noticed a couple of issues when viewing them in a gedcom >> reader program. >> >> 1) All of the databases included notes and these all appear to be >> displaying in my gedcom reader program, but the general information >> section which details the number of people, families, sources etc in the >> gedcom shows the number of notes as zero for each gedcom, which seems >> odd. Some of the gedcoms I created yesterday were from databases >> initially created by importing gedcoms from other researchers into BK - >> I still have some of these old gedcoms and when I view these in my >> gedcom viewer the notes are listed as existing in the general >> information. I haven't edited these notes in any way, so why are they >> being counted as notes in the original gedcoms, but not in the ones >> created yesterday by BK? >> >> 2. Some of the gedcoms I created yesterday were from data I entered into >> BK myself (ie not by importing someone else's gedcoms), and when viewing >> these in my gedcom reader, all the source information is duplicated (eg. >> "Parish Register, Parish Register"). I suspect that this may be >> something to do with the way I entered my source information back then, >> as the gedcoms I created from other people's data do not have this >> problem. Viewing the gedcom in Notepad I see that each source is listed >> with the same text under ABBR & NOTE. In BK this information was entered >> only once in the Source, under Abbreviation (which is ticked), so why is >> it being duplicated when the gedcom is created? >> >> Can anyone advise, please? >> >> Many thanks >> Pauline >

On Sun, 24 Jun 2012 14:02:24 +0100, John Bibby <johnbibbyjohnbibby@gmail.com> wrote: >I have a confusion of names! > >Alexander Tennent Mackintosh Berney Ficklin >and >Alexander Tennant Mackintosh Berney-Ficklin >are definitely the same individual. > >But BK gets as confused as I am when I search for them. > >Is there a good way of searching so that both forms of final name are >regarded as equivalent? > >What do people usually do about situations like this? > >(There's the rather different question of which spellings are actually >'correct' - does anyone have views on this please?) > you can use * in the name for search as Alexander Ber* or you can use the Alternative name and add both name there. So whether you search for Alexander Tennant Mackintosh Berney-Ficklin OR Alexander Tennant Mackintosh Berney Ficklin you have the person as result -- Otto Jørgensen http://www.bkwin.info/ All email is checked by NORTON

Hi Malcolm Many thanks for the reply which answers my second question. Although I entered the source information only once, I had forgotten that somewhere during conversion from version 4 through 5 to 6, what I'd entered originally appeared in two different places in the source field - under Abbreviation and Comment. Although only the latter is ticked, the information is still getting entered twice in the gedcom. I'd sorted this in my main database, but on checking, it appears I hadn't in these old databases. I've just created a test gedcom from my main database and the source information from that is not duplicated. However, the general information is still showing with this latest gedcom that there are no notes when clearly there are, so I'm still looking for an answer to my first question (below), please. Many thanks Pauline On 23/06/2012 17:41, Malcolm Webb wrote: > I can't offer an explanation about No.1 as I have never imported a GedCom > into BK. > > I had the same problem with source information being duplicated when > printing from a GedCom. This was, indeed, to do with the way I set up my > sources originally. If you have (for example) "Parish Register" as the > abbreviation and "Parish Register" in the actual text box and both are > ticked then both will print. > > I overcame this by unchecking the abbreviation check box. This is used by > BK when listing sources for you to choose from but there is no need for it > to be printed. Just tick the "actual text" box and that will print. > > All the best, > > Malcolm Webb > Lincoln UK > mfwebb2005@btinternet.com <mailto:mfwebb2005@btinternet.com> > www.mysteriousorigins.co.uk <http://www.mysteriousorigins.co.uk> > To all those who made this history we have a duty not to forget > > > > -----Original Message----- > From:bk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bk-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf > Of Pauline & Arthur Kennedy > Sent: 23 June 2012 16:40 > To:BK@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BK] Creating Gedcoms > > > Using the latest update to BK, yesterday I created some Gedcoms from > some old BK databases which haven't been touched since conversion to BK6 > in 2004, and noticed a couple of issues when viewing them in a gedcom > reader program. > > 1) All of the databases included notes and these all appear to be > displaying in my gedcom reader program, but the general information > section which details the number of people, families, sources etc in the > gedcom shows the number of notes as zero for each gedcom, which seems > odd. Some of the gedcoms I created yesterday were from databases > initially created by importing gedcoms from other researchers into BK - > I still have some of these old gedcoms and when I view these in my > gedcom viewer the notes are listed as existing in the general > information. I haven't edited these notes in any way, so why are they > being counted as notes in the original gedcoms, but not in the ones > created yesterday by BK? > > 2. Some of the gedcoms I created yesterday were from data I entered into > BK myself (ie not by importing someone else's gedcoms), and when viewing > these in my gedcom reader, all the source information is duplicated (eg. > "Parish Register, Parish Register"). I suspect that this may be > something to do with the way I entered my source information back then, > as the gedcoms I created from other people's data do not have this > problem. Viewing the gedcom in Notepad I see that each source is listed > with the same text under ABBR & NOTE. In BK this information was entered > only once in the Source, under Abbreviation (which is ticked), so why is > it being duplicated when the gedcom is created? > > Can anyone advise, please? > > Many thanks > Pauline