To Gilles de C. Paquette There is not an option currently to import empty fields from gedcom. Some programs in the past made gedcom files with empty fields and most BK users did not want them imported, so that is why it works that way. I may be able to give an option in the future to import blank fields. John Steed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gilles de C. Paquette" <paquette.gdec@videotron.ca> To: "BK - RootsWeb" <bk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 5:35 PM Subject: [BK] Empty fields on Gedcom import > Hi, > > When importing a Gedcom, if a field is empty, it will not show up in > BK. Example, in a Gedcom I have valid data in a birth field but no data > in a baptism field. After importing, the birth field shows up in BK but > there is no empty baptism field, it has to be added manually. This also > applies to death and/or burial fields. > > Is there a way of always showing certain vital fields after importing a > Gedcom even if they are empty? Like always show birth, baptism, death > and burial fields whether they contain data or not. > > Thanks. > > Gilles Paquette > > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, When importing a Gedcom, if a field is empty, it will not show up in BK. Example, in a Gedcom I have valid data in a birth field but no data in a baptism field. After importing, the birth field shows up in BK but there is no empty baptism field, it has to be added manually. This also applies to death and/or burial fields. Is there a way of always showing certain vital fields after importing a Gedcom even if they are empty? Like always show birth, baptism, death and burial fields whether they contain data or not. Thanks. Gilles Paquette

Thanks John. Gilles Le 2012-07-15 16:33, John Steed a ecrit : > To Gilles de C. Paquette > > I do not currently have a way to globally change a quality of a source > for several people. > > Perhaps I can add it in the future. > > John Steed >

To Gilles de C. Paquette I do not currently have a way to globally change a quality of a source for several people. Perhaps I can add it in the future. John Steed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gilles de C. Paquette" <paquette.gdec@videotron.ca> To: "BK - RootsWeb" <bk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 1:34 PM Subject: [BK] Source - modify quality "rating" > Hi, > > Is it possible to globally change the quality of a source, lets say from > 2 to 3? > > On the edit source screen, the lower yellowish section doesn't show up. > And when modifying a source for an individual, this modification made in > the yellowish section is valid only for this particular individual. > When one has a few hundred individuals sharing the same source with the > same "rating" change it becomes rather cumbersome to go through each one > individually. > > Thanks. > > Gilles Paquette > > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, Is it possible to globally change the quality of a source, lets say from 2 to 3? On the edit source screen, the lower yellowish section doesn't show up. And when modifying a source for an individual, this modification made in the yellowish section is valid only for this particular individual. When one has a few hundred individuals sharing the same source with the same "rating" change it becomes rather cumbersome to go through each one individually. Thanks. Gilles Paquette

I have recently created a GedCom file from BK then imported it into another programme (Ancestral Author) to extract my own ancestors and the descendants of my earliest recorded ancestor to be compiled into book form with my own text, images and photographs. The descendant and ancestor file have extracted exactly as I wanted except for numerous symbols printed by the side of some ancestors. The symbols are always the same (£Ï_áaƱ). At first I thought these symbols represented where the particular ancestor had a link to an external file on my hard drive but on closer examination this is not always the case. The symbols sometimes appear where there is a link to an internal file and sometimes they do not appear where there is a link to an external file. Does anyone know what these symbols (£Ï_áaƱ) represent and, more importantly, how I can stop them printing in the output? Many thanks. Malcolm Webb mfwebb2005@btinternet.com

To John J Cotter I will consider doing that as an option. John Steed ----- Original Message ----- From: "John J Cotter" <jjcotter@gofree.indigo.ie> To: <BK@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 5:03 AM Subject: [BK] Individual Timeline > John > > I have a request > > In Brother's Keeper > Other > Individual Timeline > would it be possible to include items from an 'Events.txt file' as is done > in > Ancestor > Timeline > which has a Tick Box "Include famous people from BKEVENTS.TXT file" ? > > What I would like to include are things like 'moved house', 'relocated', > 'built sunroom' etc. These could be written by me in that text file and > then have the option to include those in the Timeline. > > John J Cotter > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >

Malcolm, Pick out one person then open the GEDCOM file in Notepad and find that person. Are the funny characters in the GEDCOM? If not then it is a problem with Ancestral Author. Jim -----Original Message----- From: bk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Malcolm Webb Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 12:10 PM To: BrothersKeeper-List Subject: [BK] Output to GedCom I have recently created a GedCom file from BK then imported it into another programme (Ancestral Author) to extract my own ancestors and the descendants of my earliest recorded ancestor to be compiled into book form with my own text, images and photographs. The descendant and ancestor file have extracted exactly as I wanted except for numerous symbols printed by the side of some ancestors. The symbols are always the same (£Ï_áaƱ). At first I thought these symbols represented where the particular ancestor had a link to an external file on my hard drive but on closer examination this is not always the case. The symbols sometimes appear where there is a link to an internal file and sometimes they do not appear where there is a link to an external file. Does anyone know what these symbols (£Ï_áaƱ) represent and, more importantly, how I can stop them printing in the output? Many thanks. Malcolm Webb mfwebb2005@btinternet.com Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 10:03:16 +0100, "John J Cotter" <jjcotter@gofree.indigo.ie> wrote: >John > >I have a request > >In Brother's Keeper > Other > Individual Timeline >would it be possible to include items from an 'Events.txt file' as is done in > Ancestor > Timeline >which has a Tick Box "Include famous people from BKEVENTS.TXT file" ? > >What I would like to include are things like 'moved house', >'relocated', 'built sunroom' etc. These could be written by me in that >text file and then have the option to include those in the Timeline. Support that :) good idea But could it also be possible to use different locat/national files of Events.TXT as we more wish to have local event connected to this reports. Tells the readers more than have a common Eventslist from some unknown/not interestd events -- Otto Jørgensen http://www.bkwin.info/ All email is checked by NORTON

John I have a request In Brother's Keeper Other Individual Timeline would it be possible to include items from an 'Events.txt file' as is done in Ancestor Timeline which has a Tick Box "Include famous people from BKEVENTS.TXT file" ? What I would like to include are things like 'moved house', 'relocated', 'built sunroom' etc. These could be written by me in that text file and then have the option to include those in the Timeline. John J Cotter

To Maureen Farrell If you had 15 databases below C:\program files then you need to move all 15 The File, Open LIST of databases will only show the list that you make. To put the 15 new databases on that list, pick File, Open LIST of databases, and click Edit. Then type in the 15 lines (one for each database) Then pick File, Save John Steed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maureen Farrell" <mfarrell@bge.net> To: "Brothers Keeper mailing list" <BK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 12:03 PM Subject: [BK] problems with data and Windows7 >I am running Brothers Keeper 6.5 on a new PC that is Windows7 (I had XP > before). I have just discovered it is putting most of my data under > Program Files. I see the fix for this in the BK help file. It worked > fine for my main database which is now safely at C:\BK6\DATA. > However, I have about 15 databases - some I have split from my main > database, some I am working on for other folks, etc. I now use the same > routine to "move" each of those? I tried 2 or 3 and had lots of > problems. I am trying to use as for example "C:\BK6\DATA\Charlie" > They don't seem to show up when I "open list of databases". They do > show up most of the time under File- Utilites - find database. Will I > have to manually enter the path for each under the "edit" function" of > "open list of databases". > I have them all backed up on an external drive but I am hesitant of > "playing" too much and losing something. > Thanks for any assistance. > Maureen Farrell > mfarrell@bge.net > > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >

I am running Brothers Keeper 6.5 on a new PC that is Windows7 (I had XP before). I have just discovered it is putting most of my data under Program Files. I see the fix for this in the BK help file. It worked fine for my main database which is now safely at C:\BK6\DATA. However, I have about 15 databases - some I have split from my main database, some I am working on for other folks, etc. I now use the same routine to "move" each of those? I tried 2 or 3 and had lots of problems. I am trying to use as for example "C:\BK6\DATA\Charlie" They don't seem to show up when I "open list of databases". They do show up most of the time under File- Utilites - find database. Will I have to manually enter the path for each under the "edit" function" of "open list of databases". I have them all backed up on an external drive but I am hesitant of "playing" too much and losing something. Thanks for any assistance. Maureen Farrell mfarrell@bge.net

On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 22:41:24 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG@soft255.demon.co.uk> wrote: >In message <ldnmv7t7f20j5r4ogt9c8fckfvnokre549@4ax.com>, Otto Jørgensen ><otjoerge@online.no> writes: >>On Mon, 9 Jul 2012 23:32:10 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" >><G6JPG@soft255.demon.co.uk> wrote: >[] >>>What I actually wanted was where I don't know the maiden _or_ forename >>>of first wife, but wanted to show that the mother of child X was a >>>second wife because I know that fact. Without making a dummy person for >>>the first one (including using up a number). >>> >> >>You have a child. > >No, I have (say) a man; I want to add (in either order, it doesn't >matter) a second wife and their child. I want BK to show that she _is_ a >second wife, but I don't want to enter the first wife, even as UNKNOWN >or dummy or anything. > >But John has told me how to do this. There are many ways to do some about the data you enter in BK Many of the ways are put into the manual and many things are told in BK-helpfile. And by using all information and combine them and try many facilities are available. As not all of my users do read English wel (nor I) we have to make Helpfile and other way to inform about the facilites that are not normaly listed >>Add parents >>Select either father or mother >>When you are asked for the other partner, do a bread. > >I _think_ that has got lost in the translation from Norwegian: "do a >bread" doesn't, I think, have a meaning in English. (Not within English >BK, anyway: I have seen mention of b-read somewhere.) > >>The second partner is unknown >>Then select a partner to the known partner and you are asked if you >>are adding a new or naming the unknown >>Name the unknown As to help the users in scandinavian we have made separate Helpfiles for Norwegian and Danish. Take a installation and try to use <F1> to see hwo we are presenting our way of solving problems (in our language for all scandinavian)(many users of BK) -- Otto Jørgensen http://www.bkwin.info/ All email is checked by NORTON

In message <ldnmv7t7f20j5r4ogt9c8fckfvnokre549@4ax.com>, Otto Jørgensen <otjoerge@online.no> writes: >On Mon, 9 Jul 2012 23:32:10 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" ><G6JPG@soft255.demon.co.uk> wrote: [] >>What I actually wanted was where I don't know the maiden _or_ forename >>of first wife, but wanted to show that the mother of child X was a >>second wife because I know that fact. Without making a dummy person for >>the first one (including using up a number). >> > >You have a child. No, I have (say) a man; I want to add (in either order, it doesn't matter) a second wife and their child. I want BK to show that she _is_ a second wife, but I don't want to enter the first wife, even as UNKNOWN or dummy or anything. But John has told me how to do this. >Add parents >Select either father or mother >When you are asked for the other partner, do a bread. I _think_ that has got lost in the translation from Norwegian: "do a bread" doesn't, I think, have a meaning in English. (Not within English BK, anyway: I have seen mention of b-read somewhere.) >The second partner is unknown >Then select a partner to the known partner and you are asked if you >are adding a new or naming the unknown >Name the unknown -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Look out for #1. Don't step in #2 either.

On Mon, 9 Jul 2012 23:32:10 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG@soft255.demon.co.uk> wrote: >In message <000301cd5de7$23ed3870$6bc7a950$@net.au>, billeah ><billeah@iinet.net.au> writes: >>If there are no known children I record it as such in notes. Where I don't >>know the maiden name I use the married name in brackets. >>So my entry for your example below would be Jane (BROWN). If I know there >>are children and don't know her first name or maiden >>I would enter her as UnknownF (BROWN). >> >>Fid it handy to locate them this way for when I'm doing some trawling >>through place such as cncestry.com > >What I actually wanted was where I don't know the maiden _or_ forename >of first wife, but wanted to show that the mother of child X was a >second wife because I know that fact. Without making a dummy person for >the first one (including using up a number). > You have a child. Add parents Select either father or mother When you are asked for the other partner, do a bread. The second partner is unknown Then select a partner to the known partner and you are asked if you are adding a new or naming the unknown Name the unknown -- Otto Jørgensen http://www.bkwin.info/ All email is checked by NORTON

In message <000301cd5de7$23ed3870$6bc7a950$@net.au>, billeah <billeah@iinet.net.au> writes: >If there are no known children I record it as such in notes. Where I don't >know the maiden name I use the married name in brackets. >So my entry for your example below would be Jane (BROWN). If I know there >are children and don't know her first name or maiden >I would enter her as UnknownF (BROWN). > >Fid it handy to locate them this way for when I'm doing some trawling >through place such as cncestry.com What I actually wanted was where I don't know the maiden _or_ forename of first wife, but wanted to show that the mother of child X was a second wife because I know that fact. Without making a dummy person for the first one (including using up a number). John has explained to me how to do it though! > >Bill L > >-----Original Message----- >From: bk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of >N & K Chestnut >Sent: Monday, 9 July 2012 6:11 AM >To: G6JPG@soft255.demon.co.uk; bk@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [BK] can I enter second spouse without first? > >Yes, UNKNOWN can be used. However, don't forget to add another UNKNOWN when >that kind of situation comes up, again. It may be strange to have 20 >different UNKNOWNs, but it is necessary. Don't use an UNKNOWN a second >time, unless you are certain that it is the exact same person in both cases. > >Also UNKNOWN can be used when the lady's first name is known (and you use >the name), but the maiden surname is not known. Thus, you could have a Jane >UNKNOWN, or an Unknown (Mr.) BROWN, or an UNKNOWN. Don't forget the gender; >only in this day and age could it be confusing, like Mr. Mom. I have made >errors on gender, male & female, I mean. The correction can be made, >although it takes several steps. > >I like to make surnames in all capitals. It makes scanning easier and >faster. > >Kay C. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: J. P. Gilliver (John) > To: bk@rootsweb.com > Sent: 2012-07-08 02:39 > Subject: [BK] can I enter second spouse without first? > > > If I know someone was married before, but have no details of their first > spouse, is there any way of indicating that the spouse I am entering is > the second one, without having to make up a dummy person? > > (I seem to remember *UNKNOWN*, or something like that, being valid as a > placeholder of this sort, but can't now find it in the help.) > -- > J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf > > 782.55 - The Number of The Beast (including VAT) > Remember - Use the Archives at >http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >the subject and the body of the message > Remember - Use the Archives at >http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >the subject and the body of the message > > Remember - Use the Archives at >http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf 10.0 times 0.1 is hardly ever 1.0.

If there are no known children I record it as such in notes. Where I don't know the maiden name I use the married name in brackets. So my entry for your example below would be Jane (BROWN). If I know there are children and don't know her first name or maiden I would enter her as UnknownF (BROWN). Fid it handy to locate them this way for when I'm doing some trawling through place such as cncestry.com Bill L -----Original Message----- From: bk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of N & K Chestnut Sent: Monday, 9 July 2012 6:11 AM To: G6JPG@soft255.demon.co.uk; bk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BK] can I enter second spouse without first? Yes, UNKNOWN can be used. However, don't forget to add another UNKNOWN when that kind of situation comes up, again. It may be strange to have 20 different UNKNOWNs, but it is necessary. Don't use an UNKNOWN a second time, unless you are certain that it is the exact same person in both cases. Also UNKNOWN can be used when the lady's first name is known (and you use the name), but the maiden surname is not known. Thus, you could have a Jane UNKNOWN, or an Unknown (Mr.) BROWN, or an UNKNOWN. Don't forget the gender; only in this day and age could it be confusing, like Mr. Mom. I have made errors on gender, male & female, I mean. The correction can be made, although it takes several steps. I like to make surnames in all capitals. It makes scanning easier and faster. Kay C. ----- Original Message ----- From: J. P. Gilliver (John) To: bk@rootsweb.com Sent: 2012-07-08 02:39 Subject: [BK] can I enter second spouse without first? If I know someone was married before, but have no details of their first spouse, is there any way of indicating that the spouse I am entering is the second one, without having to make up a dummy person? (I seem to remember *UNKNOWN*, or something like that, being valid as a placeholder of this sort, but can't now find it in the help.) -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf 782.55 - The Number of The Beast (including VAT) Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On Mon, 9 Jul 2012 16:19:34 -0400, "Bill Cook" <bscccook@rogers.com> wrote: >Hello; > >Can someone assist with instructions on how to burn a backup of BK >to a CD using Windows 7. An answer off list is appreciated. > Have you tried the backuproutine when closing dow BK and use the Help file "Backup data files " -- Otto Jørgensen http://www.bkwin.info/ All email is checked by NORTON

To Bill Cook If you have Windows 7 you may need to format the CD before BK can write to it. Pick Start, Computer, and Right click the CD drive and pick Format. After you do that, then from BK on the Backup screen, pick a different drive and pick that drive letter and then click Copy to that letter. John Steed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Cook" <bscccook@rogers.com> To: "Brother's Keeper List" <bk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 4:19 PM Subject: [BK] Off Topic - Burning BK Backup to CD > Hello; > > Can someone assist with instructions on how to burn a backup of BK to a CD > using Windows 7. An answer off list is appreciated. > > Bill C. > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Otto; I have a backup from Brother's Keeper but I want to burn it to a CD for storage external to my computer. I am using Windows 7 and the procedure to burn a disc in Windows 7 seems to be somewhat different than in XP. I am interested in hearing from other who may have used Windows 7 to burn a disc. Bill -----Original Message----- From: Otto Jørgensen Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 4:30 PM To: bk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BK] Off Topic - Burning BK Backup to CD On Mon, 9 Jul 2012 16:19:34 -0400, "Bill Cook" <bscccook@rogers.com> wrote: >Hello; > >Can someone assist with instructions on how to burn a backup of BK >to a CD using Windows 7. An answer off list is appreciated. > Have you tried the backuproutine when closing dow BK and use the Help file "Backup data files " -- Otto Jørgensen http://www.bkwin.info/ All email is checked by NORTON Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message