What I want is to have the descent of the furthest ancestor on my father's side with the furthest ancestor on my mother's side in one file including all related persons. In other words, I want my ascendance with all the brothers and sisters of my ancestors with their own children. This way, I could exclude all persons in my database that are not really linked to me. Would it be easier to extract the data to a new subfolder rather than going through a gedcom file? Gilles
Yes, and if you choose "ancestors of a person plus family of each ancestor" you'll get all your cousins, aunts & Aunts plus all the way up the line. OR is you're just looking for your cousins & aunts & uncles & ancestors but not their families choose "ancestors of a person" starting with yourself, then "descendants of a person" starting with your grandfather. Try one out and see if that's what you are looking for. Your own family might be doubled but you can delete those. Fran On 05/09/2012 1:17 PM, Gilles Paquette wrote: > Thanks Fran. > > I tried this method, but I also want to have my uncles' and aunts' > families included (cousins and their families, etc.). That's why I > thought that "going down" two branches instead of "going up" would give > me more information. In fact, my database contains more than my own > ancestry, and I want to extract only my own with all related persons. > > Gilles P > > Le 2012-09-05 12:55, Fran LaChance a ecrit : >> When making the gecom chose "selected people" then chose "ancestors of >> a person" and click on your own name. This will give both your >> parents' ancestors. There's also a choice for "Ancestors of a person >> plus family of each ancestor". >> >> you can also "split database" the same way - so whatever you're using >> it for will determine your choice. >> >> Fran L >> >> The Future is as Great as the Promises of God > Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >
On Wed, 5 Sep 2012 10:28:15 +0100 (BST), Bert Maier <pumuckl7777@yahoo.de> wrote: >Hello John and list, > >I am using BK not only to track my ancestors, but also to maintain the' >data of all descendants of a 5x great-grandfather of mine. >We regularly meet in family reunions and keep track of all the news >of the descendants' families. >This also brings a lot of modern forms of partnerships, that I do not >know how to add to my BK data. > >How do you treat same-sex relationships of couples living together? >In some countries/states it is possible to register these relationships >(similar to a marriage). >How do you add (adopted) children of such same-sex couples? >Is there any way to enter this in BK? So far the program requires >that partners must have opposite sex, I think. > >Looking forward to your feedback. > To connect two of same gender: One is in the database. Add the other person a a new single person. Select one of them Select to add Partner Select the person you want to add. The progran as if you want this. Answer yes and the couple is joined together as a couple even if they have same gender -- Otto Jørgensen http://www.bkwin.info/ All email is checked by NORTON
Gilles, Doing what you want would mean only uncles and aunts from that blood line in each file. Why are you trying to "split it in two"? Jim -----Original Message----- From: bk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Gilles Paquette Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 1:17 PM Cc: bk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BK] Adding branches to a Gedcom file Thanks Fran. I tried this method, but I also want to have my uncles' and aunts' families included (cousins and their families, etc.). That's why I thought that "going down" two branches instead of "going up" would give me more information. In fact, my database contains more than my own ancestry, and I want to extract only my own with all related persons. Gilles P Le 2012-09-05 12:55, Fran LaChance a ecrit : > When making the gecom chose "selected people" then chose "ancestors of > a person" and click on your own name. This will give both your > parents' ancestors. There's also a choice for "Ancestors of a person > plus family of each ancestor". > > you can also "split database" the same way - so whatever you're using > it for will determine your choice. > > Fran L > > The Future is as Great as the Promises of God Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Thanks Fran. I tried this method, but I also want to have my uncles' and aunts' families included (cousins and their families, etc.). That's why I thought that "going down" two branches instead of "going up" would give me more information. In fact, my database contains more than my own ancestry, and I want to extract only my own with all related persons. Gilles P Le 2012-09-05 12:55, Fran LaChance a ecrit : > When making the gecom chose "selected people" then chose "ancestors of > a person" and click on your own name. This will give both your > parents' ancestors. There's also a choice for "Ancestors of a person > plus family of each ancestor". > > you can also "split database" the same way - so whatever you're using > it for will determine your choice. > > Fran L > > The Future is as Great as the Promises of God
When making the gecom chose "selected people" then chose "ancestors of a person" and click on your own name. This will give both your parents' ancestors. There's also a choice for "Ancestors of a person plus family of each ancestor". you can also "split database" the same way - so whatever you're using it for will determine your choice. Fran L The Future is as Great as the Promises of God On 05/09/2012 12:02 PM, Gilles Paquette wrote: > Hi, > > I think this has been discussed sometime ago, but I can't find the > original thread. > > Is it possible to add two branches to a Gedcom file? For example, I > want to extract my personnal data starting at both my father's farthest > ancestor AND my mother's farthest ancestor. > > And what would it be easier, to extract to a Gedcom file or to extract > to a new database? > > Thank you for your help. > > Gilles Paquette > > Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >
Hi, I think this has been discussed sometime ago, but I can't find the original thread. Is it possible to add two branches to a Gedcom file? For example, I want to extract my personnal data starting at both my father's farthest ancestor AND my mother's farthest ancestor. And what would it be easier, to extract to a Gedcom file or to extract to a new database? Thank you for your help. Gilles Paquette
Years ago I did the Merge Procedure, in order to bring together my Mom's relatives (ancestors) and my Dad's relatives (ancestors). Would a Merge serve you purpose? Kay C. ----- Original Message ----- From: Gilles Paquette Cc: bk@rootsweb.com Sent: 2012-09-05 10:17 Subject: Re: [BK] Adding branches to a Gedcom file Thanks Fran. I tried this method, but I also want to have my uncles' and aunts' families included (cousins and their families, etc.). That's why I thought that "going down" two branches instead of "going up" would give me more information. In fact, my database contains more than my own ancestry, and I want to extract only my own with all related persons. Gilles P Le 2012-09-05 12:55, Fran LaChance a ecrit : > When making the gecom chose "selected people" then chose "ancestors of > a person" and click on your own name. This will give both your > parents' ancestors. There's also a choice for "Ancestors of a person > plus family of each ancestor". > > you can also "split database" the same way - so whatever you're using > it for will determine your choice. > > Fran L > > The Future is as Great as the Promises of God Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hello John and list, I am using BK not only to track my ancestors, but also to maintain the data of all descendants of a 5x great-grandfather of mine. We regularly meet in family reunions and keep track of all the news of the descendants' families. This also brings a lot of modern forms of partnerships, that I do not know how to add to my BK data. How do you treat same-sex relationships of couples living together? In some countries/states it is possible to register these relationships (similar to a marriage). How do you add (adopted) children of such same-sex couples? Is there any way to enter this in BK? So far the program requires that partners must have opposite sex, I think. Looking forward to your feedback. Thank you. Bert from Germany .
To Bert Maier First add the other person with Add, New Individual. Then after both people have a BK code number, click Add Spouse and type the BK number of the spouse or partner. Then BK will let you link them. John Steed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bert Maier" <pumuckl7777@yahoo.de> To: <bk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 5:28 AM Subject: [BK] How to document same-sex relations in BK? Hello John and list, I am using BK not only to track my ancestors, but also to maintain the data of all descendants of a 5x great-grandfather of mine. We regularly meet in family reunions and keep track of all the news of the descendants' families. This also brings a lot of modern forms of partnerships, that I do not know how to add to my BK data. How do you treat same-sex relationships of couples living together? In some countries/states it is possible to register these relationships (similar to a marriage). How do you add (adopted) children of such same-sex couples? Is there any way to enter this in BK? So far the program requires that partners must have opposite sex, I think. Looking forward to your feedback. Thank you. Bert from Germany . Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi John and List As more of a lurker on the list than a poster, I just wanted to take the opportunity to say a huge THANK YOU JOHN, your support and continued work on BK is way above excellent. BK was the first and only program I tried upon acquiring my first home computer and it wasn't long before I registered with the DOS version back in 1995, upgrading to the various Windows versions as they became available. After my initial introduction to version 6 which was a total disaster from my point of view (my old brain was the problem not John's program), I have happily been using the latest versions for quite sometime now with none of my initial hiccups and over the years have felt absolutely no need to look at any other programs. As the unexpected owner of an iPad I was interested in earlier discussions on the apps available. These were "paid" versions and with my Scottish ancestry I wanted something "free" that would enable me to view all data while out and about researching. As a touch typist an iPad is not ideal so it is not my intention to use an app for updating and good old handwritten notes will still be the order of the day. Last week I came across the recently released free "Heredis" app. On the surface it appears to provide the viewing and searching options I was looking for, but as yet I have not had the chance to upload my gedcom. Has anyone else used this app in a similar way to that which I intend and how did you find it. John I hope you will not be upset for my reintroducing this iPad topic, you are still absolute tops in my book. Thank you again for all your hard work. Kind regards Glennis
My registration number is larger than Dave's. I have a Manual copyright 1994. So, I've been here for awhile. I first tried Brother's Keeper as Shareware, then I invested in it. A distant cousin told me about BK first. Later she tried another program, then came back. I've never tried any other program. I move slow, so I have fewer names than most of you. I still have a lot to learn to fully utilized the program. Kay Chestnut ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Bradshaw" <davebradshaw@sympatico.ca> To: <bk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 4:21 PM Subject: [BK] Reminiscing > Can't remember exactly when I started with BK but do remember it was a DOS > version long ago. Must have been a long time back because my Registration > number is 4100 which would indicate its been around for a while. > > Must say, I have always gotten an answer from John, whether by Email or a > phone call, and its always been right on the mark to solve the problem of > the day. Many other programs have come and gone but Brothers Keeper still > gets improved and even more useful. > > Thanks John. > > Dave Bradshaw > > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >
Just to let everybody know I am a very happy user of BK since 1992 and continue to look at other programs that my genealogy friends are using and one friend has a data base of 618,058 individuals in it and is being held hostage in an old version of FTM. Well I tried to load it in FTM 2012 and after 72 hours (3 days) it bombed out, so then I opened it in FTM2006 and created a GEDCOM and imported it into a new database on BK6, took a couple of hours to import and opens quickly after the import. On FTM it takes 10 to 15 minutes to open before you can start using it. So BK can handle much larger databases than FTM. Thanks John for all your great public and private support. Jim I might as well get my two cents worth into this thread. I started using BK in 1990, after using a self-programmed dBase2 system for 8 years. What an amazing program, and what wonderful, personalized support over 22 years! Thanks, John, for putting up with my limits-pushing requests and suggestions (we currently have 479,931 individuals in our Family Database). -- Paul J. Lareau
In 1984, I purchased my first computer from IBM. Once it was received, I had no idea what to do with it. About that time, or shortly thereafter, the TV program "Roots" was very popular. Now I knew what to do with my computer.....genealogy. A shareware program by Melvin O. Duke called Genealogy on Display (GOD) was obtained and I was off and running. Fast forward to 2010. The 5 1/4" floppies and the program had gone unused for over 25 years and now it was time to renew my interest in genealogy. Melvin O. Duke was nowhere to be found. Enter John Steed. Not only did he have a 5 1/4" disk reader, but he offered to convert my data to GEDCOM. All I had to do was send John the disks, which I did reluctantly. Shortly thereafter, John came through with his offer and I thought, why not give BK a try. With service like that, how could I go wrong? As they say, "The rest is history." Thanks John. Michael Diamant
I'm not really sure. But, it's been a long, long time. I see posts for me on the list back in 1999. But, had been using BK way before joining the list. Whenever anyone asks what genealogy program they should use, I tell them to please check out BK. Can't get better service than with John. He's always been there any time I needed him. And, this group is always willing to answer my questions, no matter how stupid. Patty ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dick Rose" <dtrose@cox.net> To: "BK Subscribers" <BK@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 7:56:31 AM Subject: [BK] Reminiscing I sit here today thinking back to our beginnings . . . I am now 86 years old . . . forgive me for injecting these thoughts into your software concerns. My mind was reverting to the early days of our favorite software, Brother's Keeper. I established this "BK" list quite a while ago and I checked back into the "BK Archives" and found this message: From: Tim Pierce < twp@rootsweb.com> Subject: Brother's Keeper list moving to RootsWeb Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 15:14:07 -0500 "Hi, folks -- Dick Rose has been the manager of a longstanding very active Brother's Keeper list at emcee.com. Dick has told us that he wants to move his list to RootsWeb, so we're going to merge the subscribers of his list with this one. This is just to warn you that there may be a lot of traffic on this list before long. :-) You might also notice that at Dick's request, we've changed the name of the list from BK5 to just BK. That way, the list won't automatically be obsolete after the next Brother's Keeper release. :-) If you've forgotten why you're on this list or want to unsubscribe, send mail to BK-L-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body. Happy hunting! -- Regards, Tim Pierce RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative system obfuscator and hack-of-all-trades" Looking back there were 118 messages in the first month of operation on Rootsweb, February, 1999. We still have 498 subscribers to the list. It has dropped some, but not too much. I would be eager to know if there are any of you who have remained faithful all these many years. Dick Rose dtrose@cox.net Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
In message <000001cd8126$564c3e30$02e4ba90$@net>, Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> writes: >I sit here today thinking back to our beginnings . . . I am now 86 >years old . . . forgive me for injecting these thoughts into your >software concerns. > Not at all! > > >My mind was reverting to the early days of our favorite software, >Brother's Keeper. I established this "BK" list quite a while ago and I >checked back into the "BK Archives" and found this message: > Thank you! I'm not sure how long I've been on the actual list; I view it via Turnpike, which allows me to treat it like a newsgroup. (I have BK-L in a folder called genealogy, alongside soc.genealogy.britain.) [] >We still have 498 subscribers to the list. It has dropped some, but not too >much. I would be eager to know if there are any of you who have remained >faithful all these many years. [] (_You_ can probably tell _me_ when I joined!) As for BK itself: I've been a user since either 5 or 4 (someone else mentioned a database conversion; I _think_ I've been through two of them). Can't compete with the 5.25" floppy folk, but I think I did get it on a 3.5", from a shareware seller at a computer fair. Decided to pay not long after. I have a _lot_ of criticisms of BK, and am very grateful to JS for putting up with me all these years! I still like it's workmanlike attitude, not making concessions to fads ahead of the underlying purpose of the software, but the main best feature is the personal support, which I'm unaware any other such software offers: not only are problems answered very quickly, but also even suggestions are implemented _fairly_ rapidly (where possible). I do worry that the revenue stream must be fragile - how many new genealogists are taking up BK rather than one of the more flashy (and better publicised) competitors - and also what happens after JS, but JS has assured me that he's well and intends to keep at it for many years yet! [I would pay full price for a BK6, but John hasn't really time to work on one, not and keep the rest of us happy too.] -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf "Grammar is there to help, not hinder." -- Mark Wallace, APIHNA, 2nd December 2000 (quoted by John Flynn 2000-12-6)
In message <5.0.2.1.2.20120823113047.03013e98@mail.verizon.net>, Robert Kirk <isobar@verizon.net> writes: >At 09:49 AM 8/23/2012, Bob McKinley wrote: >>...My photo managing software lets me batch rename the entire shoot. Since >>the pictures were taken in location order, I rename them all in that >>order, using the same initials of the cemetery, a dash and 4 numbers. I.e. >>the pix of Buck Valley Lutheran Church Cemetery are named B V L-0001 >>through B V L-0750. The photo managing software has a built in database >>where I add the inscriptions from the stone. >>It only takes a few clicks to add the appropriate tomestone picture to the >>person in BK. This way, BK is not cluttered with pix of non-relatives, >>landscape shots and outhouses (I love outhouses), and these pictures are >>all stored together, so whenever I want to take a “walk” >>through a cemetery, I can do so electronically... > > >Bob... I'm curious, since my photo files are vastly disorganized, what >photo managing software do you use? (Some day I'll get my sock drawer >sorted, too). [] IrfanView can rename a batch of pictures (including a single one), with all sorts of things - the date and time taken (obviously only if the camera's calendar was correct), a prefix plus a serialised number (sounds like what Bob does), or various combinations, including leaving the original name in if you want. The date is in yyyy mm dd form (I _think_ always, though that _could_ just be because I have them set that way anyway), which means the filenames come up in the order taken if alphasorted, even if you don't use the serialised number option. It can also add text into a (.jpg) picture file which stays part of the file, which I find handy. John Steed kindly included the option to display any such text (and to turn this off if unwanted!) within BK a few months ago. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Parkinson: "What caused your conversion to women - was it the love of a good one?" George Melly: "No the love of several bad ones" (Lizbuff in UMRA '01-4-25)
In message <26AF44EA-9B3B-4B47-95F6-EC76668F4F92@charter.net>, Curt Miller <millerca@charter.net> writes: >Hi Bobby, > >I attach the picture to a source record and have a directory called >tombstones under my picture directory. Every picture is labeled with >the number of the person and -tombstone. I will attach some to the >people if it is an important person. I have similar: D:\genealog.y\PETER\PICS\stones (PETER is the name of the database). It's called PICS rather than PICTURE because I had it before that was the default (or at least before I knew that was the default; I don't know how long it has been). In BK, under File | Options | Text/Picture, I have "The following folder below the BK6 data files" selected with "PICS" in the box. I have other subfolders within PICS: 20 in all. Some are named with the (BK) number of someone I have lots of pics of; others are things like baptisms, births, burials, census-i.nfo, deaths, director.ies, manifest.s, marriage.s, passport, and probate, and contain images of documents; census-i.nfo is subdivided into 1841Engl.and, 1841-Wales, and so on, with files in there whose name is the BK number of the head of household, such as 34.jpg. (This is not a good idea because it fights BK's backup scheme, which doesn't like it if you have two picture files with the same name in different directories; where I'm doing genealogy for other people, I just put all those files in the same folder with a serial number, starting with "000 1960Q2 b of John Smith", and using m of, d of, or no "of" [and no Q] if it's a census entry, e. g. "030 1911 John Smith". I find this works well; YMMW. The serial number is for the order I find them in.) Within my "stones" directory, the individual pictures are named with the BK number, or if a couple both of them, such as 73.jpg or 217&216.jpg; anyone actually on the stone is linked to the picture within BK, much as anyone on the census returns are linked to the picture of that. If I have no picture of a person (but have one of a suitable stone), I usually (I think) make that the default picture for that person; that's just my choice. > >I would like to see bk have an option of printing the picture from the >source so I wouldn't have to add it a second time or to automatically >put it in the pictures if a picture is added to a source. Interesting. Sounds potentially useful. I have never used the facility to add a picture to a source, so it wouldn't help me, but I can see why that facility is there. > >Cheers, >Curt > > > >On Aug 22, 2012, at 12:41 PM, "Bobby Richardson" <dynout@att.net> wrote: > >> Does anyone store tombstone photos with individuals in BK6? If so, do you >> have a photo naming convention to keep them separate from the individual and >> family photos? And do you print them in book reports? >> Well, mine's by what folder they're in; at least one other here has suggested putting "ts" or similar on the beginning or end of the name, assuming the main name is the BK number of the person. And I do print them (in the absence of a picture of the person), another person doesn't. >> >> >> Bobby Richardson [] -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Parkinson: "What caused your conversion to women - was it the love of a good one?" George Melly: "No the love of several bad ones" (Lizbuff in UMRA '01-4-25)
Can't remember exactly when I started with BK but do remember it was a DOS version long ago. Must have been a long time back because my Registration number is 4100 which would indicate its been around for a while. Must say, I have always gotten an answer from John, whether by Email or a phone call, and its always been right on the mark to solve the problem of the day. Many other programs have come and gone but Brothers Keeper still gets improved and even more useful. Thanks John. Dave Bradshaw
Hi Dick and all other listers, A quick check of the Rootsweb archive shows my first post to this list seems to be March of 1999, but I was a happy user of the program for sometime before then. I think I started using Brothers keeper about 1995 or 96. It is amazing how quickly time has flown, it certainly does not feel like 13 years since I joined this list along with many other helpful lists on Rootsweb for my research. It has been an interesting journey in that time. It would be interesting to know how many have been subscribers since the early days? Bye Karlena Nagle, formerly Lockett >From Launceston, Tasmania, Australia. -----Original Message----- From: Dick Rose Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 9:56 PM To: BK Subscribers Subject: [BK] Reminiscing I sit here today thinking back to our beginnings . . . I am now 86 years old . . . forgive me for injecting these thoughts into your software concerns. My mind was reverting to the early days of our favorite software, Brother's Keeper. I established this "BK" list quite a while ago and I checked back into the "BK Archives" and found this message: From: Tim Pierce < twp@rootsweb.com> Subject: Brother's Keeper list moving to RootsWeb Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 15:14:07 -0500 "Hi, folks -- Dick Rose has been the manager of a longstanding very active Brother's Keeper list at emcee.com. Dick has told us that he wants to move his list to RootsWeb, so we're going to merge the subscribers of his list with this one. This is just to warn you that there may be a lot of traffic on this list before long. :-) You might also notice that at Dick's request, we've changed the name of the list from BK5 to just BK. That way, the list won't automatically be obsolete after the next Brother's Keeper release. :-) If you've forgotten why you're on this list or want to unsubscribe, send mail to BK-L-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body. Happy hunting! -- Regards, Tim Pierce RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative system obfuscator and hack-of-all-trades" Looking back there were 118 messages in the first month of operation on Rootsweb, February, 1999. We still have 498 subscribers to the list. It has dropped some, but not too much. I would be eager to know if there are any of you who have remained faithful all these many years. Dick Rose dtrose@cox.net Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message