John, I guess it was the screen resolution that made me wonder about changing the font. I have BK on a couple of different computers and I noticed that there was a distinct difference in the appearance of the fonts on the two. One being much darker (easier on my old eyes) than the other. That was why I asked the question. As usual, your quick reply answered the question. Thanks, Pip

To Pip Do you want to change the font size of the font name? The size depends on your screen size 640 by 480 up to 1440 by 900 so what screen size are you using? To change the font name, go to the main BK screen and pick File, Options, Edit Screen, and at the bottom you can change the font from MS Sans Sarif to something else. John Steed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pipsisewa" <pipsisewa@comcast.net> To: <bk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 1:27 PM Subject: [BK] Font in Events/Facts field > Hello BKers > > > > I seem to remember that there is way of change to the font > in events shown under the Events/Facts tab. > > Born; Died; Married; etc. > > > > However, I cannot recall how it was done. > > > > Can anyone refresh my memory - or let me know that my > memory > is faulty? > > > > Thanks, Pip > > > > > > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >

Hello BKers I seem to remember that there is way of change to the font in events shown under the Events/Facts tab. Born; Died; Married; etc. However, I cannot recall how it was done. Can anyone refresh my memory - or let me know that my memory is faulty? Thanks, Pip

If they are placed in the person's edit screen, a quality check or maintenance program will report an error. It seems that not removing the "divider line" doesn't affect the program operation. How would it affect printing or gedcom production? Dennis Benson Uniontown, Ohio On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 8:26 PM, John Steed <brothers_keeper@msn.com> wrote: > To David Youse > > The dash lines were not designed to be selected. They were designed to > show > the breaks between Individual Events, Individual Other (with Descriptions), > Family Events, Family Other. In other words, they show the breaks when you > are viewing the list of about 100 events on the drop down list. > > John Steed > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "D Youse" <davidyouse@comcast.net> > To: <bk@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 3:53 PM > Subject: [BK] personal vs family events > > > > Discussion has been made about separating personal events from family > > events. I do understand that John can’t really create a double grid to > > keep these types separate and doing it manually doesn’t give a visual > > separation. > > > > I’ve found that you can simply go to <Add Event> and scroll down the drop > > down list to one of the long dashes (-------------). Select that and > > position it between the personal event lines and the family events. It > > seems to work and I haven’t found any problems (yet) with doing it that > > way. > > > > By the way John, what is the intended purpose of those lines in the list? > > Could one of them be changed to a selectable blank space? > > > > David Youse > > Remember - Use the Archives at > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > > the subject and the body of the message > > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

On Tue, 2 Oct 2012 15:53:19 -0400, "D Youse" <davidyouse@comcast.net> wrote: >Discussion has been made about separating personal events from family events. I do understand that John can’t really create a double grid to keep these types separate and doing it manually doesn’t give a visual separation. > >I’ve found that you can simply go to <Add Event> and scroll down the drop down list to one of the long dashes (-------------). Select that and position it between the personal event lines and the family events. It seems to work and I haven’t found any problems (yet) with doing it that way. > >By the way John, what is the intended purpose of those lines in the list? Could one of them be changed to a selectable blank space? I see at least two direct problem If a male or female has more than two partners each, marrieage or notfor each of the couple you will have a lot of events. If you turn to other peoplle of the same persons a mix of personal and family events can be different and will not mostlly not give what you want. The events are good to have in edit but not to print in books. I use to have all events listen but the story about the persons are not listed in reports. I have then made the result of a person life in each couple as a part of the biographi. In that way most of the events and order of the events are solved by the biography. An other part is that all events are put togethe in the same paragraph as birth name, date, deathe etc and are a unsatified mix. I have wishes to could male som separation of the events, but so far it is not possible. On the other hand is a great help to use thje Option under Event/facts to pu the order of the 7 mot used personal evenst and the 3 most used common events. The next is for users to use Global Change of Event Order. That do no include the family event, but do we wish that. I do NOT -- Otto Jørgensen http://www.bkwin.info/ All email is checked by NORTON

To David Youse The dash lines were not designed to be selected. They were designed to show the breaks between Individual Events, Individual Other (with Descriptions), Family Events, Family Other. In other words, they show the breaks when you are viewing the list of about 100 events on the drop down list. John Steed ----- Original Message ----- From: "D Youse" <davidyouse@comcast.net> To: <bk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 3:53 PM Subject: [BK] personal vs family events > Discussion has been made about separating personal events from family > events. I do understand that John can’t really create a double grid to > keep these types separate and doing it manually doesn’t give a visual > separation. > > I’ve found that you can simply go to <Add Event> and scroll down the drop > down list to one of the long dashes (-------------). Select that and > position it between the personal event lines and the family events. It > seems to work and I haven’t found any problems (yet) with doing it that > way. > > By the way John, what is the intended purpose of those lines in the list? > Could one of them be changed to a selectable blank space? > > David Youse > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

Discussion has been made about separating personal events from family events. I do understand that John can’t really create a double grid to keep these types separate and doing it manually doesn’t give a visual separation. I’ve found that you can simply go to <Add Event> and scroll down the drop down list to one of the long dashes (-------------). Select that and position it between the personal event lines and the family events. It seems to work and I haven’t found any problems (yet) with doing it that way. By the way John, what is the intended purpose of those lines in the list? Could one of them be changed to a selectable blank space? David Youse

In message <A6D438DD6E4C4BB28C727700A6762C0B@Dell4600>, John Steed <brothers_keeper@msn.com> writes: >To J P Gilliver > >Thanks for the suggestions. I am not able to make the grid have a >darker line in one place. Nor a gap, I presume. > >At one time I tried having two grids (one for individual events and one >for marriage events) but it looked back, so I combined them. back? > >There is a Utility to sort all events by date, but there is not one for >one person currently. Thanks - someone pointed that one out to me. > >John Steed > [] John G. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf a little bit of me still feels that some southerners think we northerners are issued at birth with doomed kestrels. - Alison Graham, Radio Times, 3-9/11/2007.

In message <3081E65C20524A6193B352EF6DDB61CC@Dell4600>, John Steed <brothers_keeper@msn.com> writes: >To J P Gilliver > >Thanks for the suggestions. > >John Steed [] You're welcome! Hope they're possible. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf a little bit of me still feels that some southerners think we northerners are issued at birth with doomed kestrels. - Alison Graham, Radio Times, 3-9/11/2007.

I have been trying to make a GEDCOM file of just 3 or 4 generations of my late mother in laws family I wanted a max of 4 generations from her Rin # which is 8 Default range of numbers is 1 -4592. Tried changing that and it goes back to 1 -4592 ? I do have many generations of her family . No problem to do a GEDCOM of her whole ancestry but is with trying to do small GEDCOM What am I doing wrong ? Bye MargM Beautiful NSW Central Coast Australia

To J P Gilliver Thanks for the suggestions. I am not able to make the grid have a darker line in one place. At one time I tried having two grids (one for individual events and one for marriage events) but it looked back, so I combined them. There is a Utility to sort all events by date, but there is not one for one person currently. John Steed ----- Original Message ----- From: "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG@soft255.demon.co.uk> To: <bk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 7:20 AM Subject: [BK] event order > Suggestion: on the "events" tab, there are two buttons "move up" and > "move down", for rearranging the order of events. > > Another button "sort by date" perhaps? (Like there's a "sort by > birthdate" in the "children" page.) [It'd have to be decided what to do > with undated events; probably leave them where they are. An "undo" > button could also be needed in case the sort makes a mess. (There isn't > one for the children sort, I think.)] > > Also, I'd like to be able to either get away from the "family events > must come after individual events" rule: I find it rather disconcerting > to see > > born > died > married > > for a person. Alternatively, I suppose, some visible delimiter between > the two could be considered - a thicker line, or ideally a gap. > > (This might come out anyway of my suggestion - if implementable - of > having all events visible: see the "spouses" thread.) > > My suggestions are made with positive intent! Hope they don't come over > as complaints; I like BK! > -- > J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf > > "Don't worry about people stealing your ideas. If your ideas are any good, > you'll have to ram them down people's throats." - Howard Aiken > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >

To J P Gilliver Thanks for the suggestions. John Steed ----- Original Message ----- From: "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG@soft255.demon.co.uk> To: <bk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 7:11 AM Subject: [BK] children/events of other spouses, and (lack of) spouse memory >I go to the edit page for a person (let's say man) with more than one > spouse. It shows the events (marriage, family residence places/dates) > for Spouse 1, or the children by that spouse. > > I go to the drop-down list of spouses, and select other than Spouse 1. > The events/children relating to Spouse 1 disappear, and those relating > to Spouse x appear. > > I click the Spouse x button, to view/edit something specific to that > person. > > I come back (the "<" button) to the man. It reverts to Spouse 1! Could > the >/< "memory" perhaps be amended to remember which Spouse I was > looking at/with? > > Also: it would be nice if, in the children tab, all the children of the > person whose name is in Name could be shown - OK, with the ones by other > than the currently-shown spouse greyed, or something similar. Similarly > for events. > > (I've not infrequently found I've entered a child or event under the > wrong spouse, because I saw they were missing, and didn't realise they > were there but not shown because a different spouse was selected. I > can't be alone in this!) > -- > J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf > > "Don't worry about people stealing your ideas. If your ideas are any good, > you'll have to ram them down people's throats." - Howard Aiken > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >

On Sun, 30 Sep 2012 12:11:09 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG@soft255.demon.co.uk> wrote: >I go to the edit page for a person (let's say man) with more than one >spouse. It shows the events (marriage, family residence places/dates) >for Spouse 1, or the children by that spouse. > >I go to the drop-down list of spouses, and select other than Spouse 1. >The events/children relating to Spouse 1 disappear, and those relating >to Spouse x appear. > >I click the Spouse x button, to view/edit something specific to that >person. > >I come back (the "<" button) to the man. It reverts to Spouse 1! Could >the >/< "memory" perhaps be amended to remember which Spouse I was >looking at/with? > >Also: it would be nice if, in the children tab, all the children of the >person whose name is in Name could be shown - OK, with the ones by other >than the currently-shown spouse greyed, or something similar. Similarly >for events. > >(I've not infrequently found I've entered a child or event under the >wrong spouse, because I saw they were missing, and didn't realise they >were there but not shown because a different spouse was selected. I >can't be alone in this!) Sorting marriages by "Glabaly marriage sort" -- Otto Jørgensen http://www.bkwin.info/ All email is checked by NORTON

On Sun, 30 Sep 2012 12:11:09 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG@soft255.demon.co.uk> wrote: >I go to the edit page for a person (let's say man) with more than one >spouse. It shows the events (marriage, family residence places/dates) >for Spouse 1, or the children by that spouse. > >I go to the drop-down list of spouses, and select other than Spouse 1. >The events/children relating to Spouse 1 disappear, and those relating >to Spouse x appear. > >I click the Spouse x button, to view/edit something specific to that >person. > >I come back (the "<" button) to the man. It reverts to Spouse 1! Could >the >/< "memory" perhaps be amended to remember which Spouse I was >looking at/with? > >Also: it would be nice if, in the children tab, all the children of the >person whose name is in Name could be shown - OK, with the ones by other >than the currently-shown spouse greyed, or something similar. Similarly >for events. > >(I've not infrequently found I've entered a child or event under the >wrong spouse, because I saw they were missing, and didn't realise they >were there but not shown because a different spouse was selected. I >can't be alone in this!) Sorting children by taking Quality check -- Otto Jørgensen http://www.bkwin.info/ All email is checked by NORTON

On Sun, 30 Sep 2012 12:20:42 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG@soft255.demon.co.uk> wrote: >Suggestion: on the "events" tab, there are two buttons "move up" and >"move down", for rearranging the order of events. > >Another button "sort by date" perhaps? (Like there's a "sort by >birthdate" in the "children" page.) [It'd have to be decided what to do >with undated events; probably leave them where they are. An "undo" >button could also be needed in case the sort makes a mess. (There isn't >one for the children sort, I think.)] > >Also, I'd like to be able to either get away from the "family events >must come after individual events" rule: I find it rather disconcerting >to see > >born >died >married > >for a person. Alternatively, I suppose, some visible delimiter between >the two could be considered - a thicker line, or ideally a gap. > >(This might come out anyway of my suggestion - if implementable - of >having all events visible: see the "spouses" thread.) > >My suggestions are made with positive intent! Hope they don't come over >as complaints; I like BK! On utilities you have "global change of events Ordering" -- Otto Jørgensen http://www.bkwin.info/ All email is checked by NORTON

In message <uncg68l7j7aeamccg0ek62atmur6kc5uj4@4ax.com>, Otto Jørgensen <otjoerge@online.no> writes: >On Sun, 30 Sep 2012 12:20:42 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" ><G6JPG@soft255.demon.co.uk> wrote: > >>Suggestion: on the "events" tab, there are two buttons "move up" and >>"move down", for rearranging the order of events. >> >>Another button "sort by date" perhaps? (Like there's a "sort by >>birthdate" in the "children" page.) [It'd have to be decided what to do >>with undated events; probably leave them where they are. An "undo" >>button could also be needed in case the sort makes a mess. (There isn't >>one for the children sort, I think.)] >> >>Also, I'd like to be able to either get away from the "family events >>must come after individual events" rule: I find it rather disconcerting >>to see >> >>born >>died >>married >> >>for a person. Alternatively, I suppose, some visible delimiter between >>the two could be considered - a thicker line, or ideally a gap. >> >>(This might come out anyway of my suggestion - if implementable - of >>having all events visible: see the "spouses" thread.) >> >>My suggestions are made with positive intent! Hope they don't come over >>as complaints; I like BK! > >On utilities you have "global change of events Ordering" Thanks, I hadn't been aware of that. Some reservations I have though: 1. It is global. The "move up"/"move down" buttons are local, and I had thought of a local "sort" button. 2. It has no "undo", relying on you making a backup. (Though for a global utility, that's probably fair enough.) 3. It doesn't leave undated entries where they were. But mainly: 0. It still has the "individual-before-family" rule, I think. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Diplomacy is the art of letting someone have your way.

Suggestion: on the "events" tab, there are two buttons "move up" and "move down", for rearranging the order of events. Another button "sort by date" perhaps? (Like there's a "sort by birthdate" in the "children" page.) [It'd have to be decided what to do with undated events; probably leave them where they are. An "undo" button could also be needed in case the sort makes a mess. (There isn't one for the children sort, I think.)] Also, I'd like to be able to either get away from the "family events must come after individual events" rule: I find it rather disconcerting to see born died married for a person. Alternatively, I suppose, some visible delimiter between the two could be considered - a thicker line, or ideally a gap. (This might come out anyway of my suggestion - if implementable - of having all events visible: see the "spouses" thread.) My suggestions are made with positive intent! Hope they don't come over as complaints; I like BK! -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf "Don't worry about people stealing your ideas. If your ideas are any good, you'll have to ram them down people's throats." - Howard Aiken

I go to the edit page for a person (let's say man) with more than one spouse. It shows the events (marriage, family residence places/dates) for Spouse 1, or the children by that spouse. I go to the drop-down list of spouses, and select other than Spouse 1. The events/children relating to Spouse 1 disappear, and those relating to Spouse x appear. I click the Spouse x button, to view/edit something specific to that person. I come back (the "<" button) to the man. It reverts to Spouse 1! Could the >/< "memory" perhaps be amended to remember which Spouse I was looking at/with? Also: it would be nice if, in the children tab, all the children of the person whose name is in Name could be shown - OK, with the ones by other than the currently-shown spouse greyed, or something similar. Similarly for events. (I've not infrequently found I've entered a child or event under the wrong spouse, because I saw they were missing, and didn't realise they were there but not shown because a different spouse was selected. I can't be alone in this!) -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf "Don't worry about people stealing your ideas. If your ideas are any good, you'll have to ram them down people's throats." - Howard Aiken

In message <BLU0-SMTP87EA21E0E94D5C0BBAFA5CBF810@phx.gbl>, Dave Bradshaw <davebradshaw@sympatico.ca> writes: >John: > > > >This might seem to be an odd request and I don't know if it's even a >possibility: > > > >At the moment, age shows when there is a birth date and a death date. Would >it be possible to have the age recalculated and change when I click on an >event in the left edge, e.g. marriage (age shows 22), occupation farmer (age >shows 34), resided (age shows 25), census (age shows 37) etc. When there >are ages shown in a source it would be a good secondary check to have >available if it can be done. Leaving the record the age should then default >to what now happens, difference birth/death. > > > >As always the idea is open for discussion by everyone. [] Sounds like a very useful facility, if it's possible: possibly have the "age at event" appear in a different colour, and/or to the right of the existing one, as there's plenty of room there (or below it, moving the existing one up). As Dave says, it'd be a useful extra check, as many sources do show age.* Or it could be done as a popup over the event line somewhere, though I personally don't like popups in most cases (I would say including this one). Possibly better as an "Age at event" below the existing one that changes as the mouse cursor (and/or focus) moves over the events. Also, perhaps the existing one's header (?) could change from "Age" to "Age at death" when it is (i. e. except for living persons). *What would be really useful (taking Dave's thought to conclusion?) would be, when entering a date for an event, the ability to press some key or key combination which then allowed age-at-that-event to be copied in, and thus generate a Born date if one isn't already there for the person - so, for example, if entering something from the 1851 census, where the person was recorded as age 20, you'd enter the 1851 then type Ctrl-shift-A (or something), and a popup box would appear (they _do_ have their uses! Though this is a different sort of popup) into which you could type the 20, and a "Born CIR ____1831" line would appear. (I was wondering - would it be possible for the dates of the censuses to be available in a drop-list or similar? There are probably too many lists of census dates - e. g., the UK ones [ending in 1], the US ones [ending in 0], and presumably others - but it could maybe done with a BK file the user creates. I'm envisaging that when entering something from a census [residence, occupation, etc.], one could type a key combination [Alt-C-D {for census date}?] and a drop-list of dates would appear.) I'd better stop now, as I'm hijacking Dave's thread ... but I think his idea is a good one, if it's possible. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf New research shows that three to five cups of coffee a day will cut the risk of Alzheimer's by about 60 per cent. There is also good evidence that tea is good for memory. - Michael Mosley interviewed in Radio Times, 7-13 February 2009

In export gedcom choose "Ancestors of" then click on your mother and change the number of generations to what you want. Fran L The Future is as Great as the Promises of God On 30/09/2012 8:52 AM, MargM wrote: > > I have been trying to make a GEDCOM file of just 3 or 4 > generations of my late mother in laws family > > I wanted a max of 4 generations from her Rin # which is 8 > > Default range of numbers is 1 -4592. Tried changing that and it > goes back to 1 -4592 ? > > I do have many generations of her family . No problem to do a > GEDCOM of her whole ancestry > > but is with trying to do small GEDCOM > > What am I doing wrong ? > > > Bye > > MargM > Beautiful NSW Central Coast > Australia > > > > > > > Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >