To Fran LaChance I do not have a way to globally delete an event. You can find everyone with that event with Lists, Word Search, Search Event tab, then pick that event name and in the Description field click there and then press F3 for <not empty> and then do the search John Steed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fran LaChance" <singer.35@hotmail.com> To: "BK-L" <BK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 1:07 PM Subject: [BK] deleting events > BK 6.5.17 registered user. > > Before John added 'Flags", which I now utilize, I had used Ancestor > interest & Descendant > interest. Now, I would like to delete both of these. . Is there a way to > universally > delete an event? I thought about using utilities-search & replace but > there is no blank > there. > > Any suggestions appreciated. > > Fran L > > > > The Future is as Great as the Promises of God > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >

Hi John, Would it be possible to get the program to sort names by first and second name when doing an F3 search? I have, for example, a bunch of William Browns and when I do an F3 ? Brown they are sorted by first name only. Thanks, Pat

BK 6.5.17 registered user. Before John added 'Flags", which I now utilize, I had used Ancestor interest & Descendant interest. Now, I would like to delete both of these. . Is there a way to universally delete an event? I thought about using utilities-search & replace but there is no blank there. Any suggestions appreciated. Fran L The Future is as Great as the Promises of God

To Pat Brown Currently it will not sort by middle name. However, there is an option to sort them by birth year if that helps. If you have BK 6.5 pick Options on the select person screen. Or if you have a version before 6.5 go to the main screen and pick File, Options, Edit Screen, and turn on the option to have the select person list show people in birth year order. John Steed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Brown" <mistyhaven@gmail.com> To: "BK" <BK@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 7:15 AM Subject: [BK] Sorting names > Hi John, > Would it be possible to get the program to sort names by first and > second name when doing an F3 search? I have, for example, a bunch of > William Browns and when I do an F3 ? Brown they are sorted by first name > only. > > Thanks, > > Pat > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >

On Tue, 9 Oct 2012 08:31:03 +0100 (BST), S Horsman <horsman61@btinternet.com> wrote: >Being able to add a child to an unknown parent would be useful.  >In census records I often find children living with grandparents, but >dont know who their parent is.  They could be children of a married >son, or more likely children of unmarried daughter or daughters. >I tend to list them in the grandparents notes until I am able to identify >the parent,  but the idea of attaching them to an unknown parent >is a good idea. >  when we are searching, we allways will find relatives that we at that moment can't connect to the correct line. But it is no problem. We mark the person with the information we knew, Alternative names census, etc We use "ToDo" and so on, but we al knew that mostly we do later on find the link. If I do have the surname, I use both the name field and the alternative names etc. and it is no problem If I have to add a person I can use n.n. for the uknown person (male pr female) or child to Beatrice Smith etc. No problem -- Otto Jørgensen http://www.bkwin.info/ All email is checked by NORTON

The situation is quite common from census records I have examined. The rule of thumb I use but not 100 percent accurate is that if the grandchild has the same surname as the grandparents then I set the parent as male. If different surname then I set parent as female. When more facts become available then a correction can be made David Sandham

Being able to add a child to an unknown parent would be useful.  In census records I often find children living with grandparents, but dont know who their parent is.  They could be children of a married son, or more likely children of unmarried daughter or daughters. I tend to list them in the grandparents notes until I am able to identify the parent,  but the idea of attaching them to an unknown parent is a good idea.   Sue Horsman

To Carole Caruso The program allows a child with unknown sex, but it does not allow a parent with unknown sex. So you have to pick Male or Female for a person before you can add a child to that person. It has to do with the program wanting a Mother and Father of each child. The marriage record for the parents only has those two choices currently. Rather than have me change the file structure, perhaps you can just call the parent either male or female and then add the child. I realize what you want to do, and if the situation was more common, perhaps I could change the program. However, I think is is rare when you have a grandchild name and the grand parents names and you do not know the sex of the parent. Since it is rare, you can pick male or female and put in a Note that you do not know the name or the sex of that person. Most of the printed reports like Tree charts and Box charts do not say Male or Female to the chart will look the same if the parent is male or female. So people will not be confused by most of the printouts. Your Note will explain the situation if you print a Group sheet with notes. John Steed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carole Edwards Caruso" <carolec@stny.rr.com> To: <bk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 8:35 AM Subject: Re: [BK] Unidentified Parent > Thanks for the suggestions as to how to handle a child who > obviously is a grandchild but the parent is not known, which > means the sex of the parent is not known. > > What I really want to do is have the child appear on a line > chart linked as the child of the grandparents through a > parent named Unknown with sex listed as Unknown. > > I am puzzled as to why I can't do this because we can add a > child listed as Unknown with sex Unknown and he/she will > appear on the line chart. How come I can't add a child to > Unknown without declaring the sex? > > John, can you make a tweak to the program - or did you in > the new version? - to make this happen? > > Thanks. > > Carole > > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks for the suggestions as to how to handle a child who obviously is a grandchild but the parent is not known, which means the sex of the parent is not known. What I really want to do is have the child appear on a line chart linked as the child of the grandparents through a parent named Unknown with sex listed as Unknown. I am puzzled as to why I can't do this because we can add a child listed as Unknown with sex Unknown and he/she will appear on the line chart. How come I can't add a child to Unknown without declaring the sex? John, can you make a tweak to the program - or did you in the new version? - to make this happen? Thanks. Carole

On Sun, 7 Oct 2012 13:19:58 +0100, "Michael Cant" <mickcant@freenetname.co.uk> wrote: > >Hi all, > I hope this post is not out of order, but wondered if those of us who >have had pets (dog) in the family have ever included them in their tree? > >Mick-IOW > This was a new subkect based on an old messages. Please start new subject by using a new clean and fresh email. Do not use old messages and fix the subject, It maks only mix and untreaded messages and connection to old emails with othe subejct -- Otto Jørgensen http://www.bkwin.info/ All email is checked by NORTON

On Sun, 7 Oct 2012 12:22:51 -0400, "Carole Edwards Caruso" <carolec@stny.rr.com> wrote: >Hi - I run into this problem from time to time, and perhaps >John has fixed it in the new version. However - > >Often I find a child living with his grandparents with their >surname. Is he the child of the son of these grandparents? >Or his he the illegitimate child of one of the daughters of >these grandparents? All I really know is the surname of his >grandparents. > >But BK will not let me link the child to his grandparents >unless I name one of his parents as a male or female. I >have no way of knowing this. > >Work around? A chilld is registrated as a child of his parents (one or both, depending for information) If other do take care of the child, we can eter those couple (he, she or both) as doptive, foster, step og other Secind oparents to the child. It is only to think the correct lines and add information as it is in the present situation. Not more or not less -- Otto Jørgensen http://www.bkwin.info/ All email is checked by NORTON

In message <B39197A890DA43258A56CC7F1799A3B5@DYB>, David Bartelt <dybartelt@comcast.net> writes: >No, Michael, I have not. Tempted, though. No reason not too since it is your >own database. How would you put them in - as children? BK (or, presumably most genealogy software) could be useful for the recording of pedigrees, though presumably there is specialised software for that. > >Thought about adding memorials on Find A Grave, too. > >I sure miss those doggers! See http://goo.gl/maps/kfO01 > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Michael Cant" <mickcant@freenetname.co.uk> >To: <bk@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2012 7:19 AM >Subject: Re: [BK] Beloved Pets in Tree Chart > > >> >> Hi all, >> I hope this post is not out of order, but wondered if those of us >> who >> have had pets (dog) in the family have ever included them in their tree? >> >> Mick-IOW >> (Isle of Wight?) [] -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf She will never, ever be middle-aged. She wouldn't know how. (Polly Toynbee on Janet Stree-Porter, in Radio Times, August 1998.)

I have handled the problem as follows: Suppose that John Smith (age 7) is shown as the grandson of Samuel Smith (age 57) with Samuel listed as head of household. I enter John as the son of Samuel but instead of calling him just "John Smith" I call him "John (gson) Smith" At a glance it shows that John is not truly the son of Samuel but that there is a close connection. By using (gson) as sort of a middle name, this John Smith will pop up whenever I do a name search -- perhaps at some later time. If I ever find the parents of John I can easily drop the link to Samuel, add the appropriate parent and correct all links. The problem with using something like "adopted", or even "foster", is that, in fact, you have no knowledge that these titles are correct. Any reports involving John show the correct relationship since reports print out the name. Jim Ramaley Gettysburg, PA ----- Original Message ----- From: Geoffrey Wilson To: bk@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2012 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [BK] Unidentified Parent Interesting problem. You could perhaps link the child to his/her grandparents as being adopted by them, and add a hidden note to that effect. At 12:22 PM 10/7/2012, Carole Edwards Caruso wrote: >Hi - I run into this problem from time to time, and perhaps >John has fixed it in the new version. However - > >Often I find a child living with his grandparents with their >surname. Is he the child of the son of these grandparents? >Or his he the illegitimate child of one of the daughters of >these grandparents? All I really know is the surname of his >grandparents. > >But BK will not let me link the child to his grandparents >unless I name one of his parents as a male or female. I >have no way of knowing this. > >Work around? > >Thanks. > >Carole > > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi all, I hope this post is not out of order, but wondered if those of us who have had pets (dog) in the family have ever included them in their tree? Mick-IOW

might not be correct but what I do is add an "unknown" child to the grandparents with a female gender, then link the child to unknown with a note stating I don't really know to which child of the grandparents the child belongs, nor the gender of the parent and probably never will. If, in the census the child is listed as g'child, then I add that source to the entry. Fran The Future is as Great as the Promises of God On 07/10/2012 12:22 PM, Carole Edwards Caruso wrote: > Hi - I run into this problem from time to time, and perhaps > John has fixed it in the new version. However - > > Often I find a child living with his grandparents with their > surname. Is he the child of the son of these grandparents? > Or his he the illegitimate child of one of the daughters of > these grandparents? All I really know is the surname of his > grandparents. > > But BK will not let me link the child to his grandparents > unless I name one of his parents as a male or female. I > have no way of knowing this. > > Work around? > > Thanks. > > Carole > > Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Interesting problem. You could perhaps link the child to his/her grandparents as being adopted by them, and add a hidden note to that effect. At 12:22 PM 10/7/2012, Carole Edwards Caruso wrote: >Hi - I run into this problem from time to time, and perhaps >John has fixed it in the new version. However - > >Often I find a child living with his grandparents with their >surname. Is he the child of the son of these grandparents? >Or his he the illegitimate child of one of the daughters of >these grandparents? All I really know is the surname of his >grandparents. > >But BK will not let me link the child to his grandparents >unless I name one of his parents as a male or female. I >have no way of knowing this. > >Work around? > >Thanks. > >Carole > > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi - I run into this problem from time to time, and perhaps John has fixed it in the new version. However - Often I find a child living with his grandparents with their surname. Is he the child of the son of these grandparents? Or his he the illegitimate child of one of the daughters of these grandparents? All I really know is the surname of his grandparents. But BK will not let me link the child to his grandparents unless I name one of his parents as a male or female. I have no way of knowing this. Work around? Thanks. Carole

It would probably depend on whether or not they were blood relatives.

No, Michael, I have not. Tempted, though. No reason not too since it is your own database. Thought about adding memorials on Find A Grave, too. I sure miss those doggers! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Cant" <mickcant@freenetname.co.uk> To: <bk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2012 7:19 AM Subject: Re: [BK] Beloved Pets in Tree Chart > > Hi all, > I hope this post is not out of order, but wondered if those of us > who > have had pets (dog) in the family have ever included them in their tree? > > Mick-IOW > > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

Michael Cant wrote: > Hi all, > I hope this post is not out of order, but wondered if those of us who > have had pets (dog) in the family have ever included them in their tree? > > Mick-IOW If they shared my blood-line, I might consider it. Mona -- Mona Houser HeritageHunt@Sandyview.net Our Family -- http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monajo/ Nahausen Families – http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monajo/nah/ My Database – http://wc.rootsweb.com/~monahouser