Just to let you know that I just had that situation with a GEDCOM file which a genealogist friend of mine send me. His file has 193, 000 people in it and I am comparing my file of 57,000 people to his. Well BK's compare database routine stops on about every person because he put the nickname embed in the name field, whereas I put it in the alternate names field. Makes for slow progress making at least 193, 000 clicks. Been working on this for two months now and we share databases once a year. So if you are every going to share your genealogy file with somebody or they share theirs with you and you do a compare it will slow your comparison. Jim -----Original Message----- From: Pat Brown <mistyhaven@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 7:42 AM To: BK <BK@rootsweb.com> Subject: [BK] Re: Thoughts - nicknames Thanks John. My thinking was also to include it as part of the first name/s and in brackets, Patrick John (Paddy) Brown. On Sun, 10 Feb 2019, 14:01 J. P. Gilliver (John) <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk wrote: > In message > <CAJdnw=jsTHSSFFed6q5GhBDmn3hzcvLLv1uBMjqTqiaLAC0Yuw@mail.gmail.com>, > Pat Brown <mistyhaven@gmail.com> writes: > >Was just wondering what other members think. I have (and I am sure > >many others as well) one family line where at least 8 cousins have > >the same first names (Nicolaas Jacobus) and the only way to tell them > >apart is by reference to their fathers. However they all have family > >nicknames > (Nikkie, > >Nico, Nokkie etc). I am considering adding the nicknames to the name > >field so that it is easier to tell them apart at a glance instead of > >having to > go > >to the alternative name field. > [] > Two points: > > 1. where do you want to tell them apart? If in the F3 search, you can > tick a box, and it'll show the alternative names as well (you should > still put the surname in the nickname - e. g. Nico Brown - which is > counterintuitive, if you want it found if you're searching for Browns). > It shows people with alternative names with a symbol next to them > (either * or +, I can't remember: the other one is for husband surname). > > 2. If you still decide to add them to the name field, do it in some > way that does not break anything else - I can only think of searches, > but there may be other things. Somewhere in the middle - such as > "Nicolaas Jacobus (Nico) Brown" - seems the safest to me, but there > may be other ways (some of them possibly including [square brackets]); > probably best to wait to see if JS comments. (I _wouldn't_ put them > first - "(Nico) Nicolaas Jacobus Brown" - or last, because that > _would_ break the search function at least [that one would then no > longer be found if you searched for "Nicol Brown"].) > -- > J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 > MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf > > I long for the commercialised Christmas of the 1970s. It's got so > religious now, it's lost its true meaning. - Mike > [{at}ostic.demon.co.uk], > 2003-12-24 > > _______________________________________________ > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/bk@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community > _______________________________________________ Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/bk@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Thanks John. My thinking was also to include it as part of the first name/s and in brackets, Patrick John (Paddy) Brown. On Sun, 10 Feb 2019, 14:01 J. P. Gilliver (John) <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk wrote: > In message > <CAJdnw=jsTHSSFFed6q5GhBDmn3hzcvLLv1uBMjqTqiaLAC0Yuw@mail.gmail.com>, > Pat Brown <mistyhaven@gmail.com> writes: > >Was just wondering what other members think. I have (and I am sure many > >others as well) one family line where at least 8 cousins have the same > >first names (Nicolaas Jacobus) and the only way to tell them apart is by > >reference to their fathers. However they all have family nicknames > (Nikkie, > >Nico, Nokkie etc). I am considering adding the nicknames to the name field > >so that it is easier to tell them apart at a glance instead of having to > go > >to the alternative name field. > [] > Two points: > > 1. where do you want to tell them apart? If in the F3 search, you can > tick a box, and it'll show the alternative names as well (you should > still put the surname in the nickname - e. g. Nico Brown - which is > counterintuitive, if you want it found if you're searching for Browns). > It shows people with alternative names with a symbol next to them > (either * or +, I can't remember: the other one is for husband surname). > > 2. If you still decide to add them to the name field, do it in some way > that does not break anything else - I can only think of searches, but > there may be other things. Somewhere in the middle - such as "Nicolaas > Jacobus (Nico) Brown" - seems the safest to me, but there may be other > ways (some of them possibly including [square brackets]); probably best > to wait to see if JS comments. (I _wouldn't_ put them first - "(Nico) > Nicolaas Jacobus Brown" - or last, because that _would_ break the search > function at least [that one would then no longer be found if you > searched for "Nicol Brown"].) > -- > J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf > > I long for the commercialised Christmas of the 1970s. It's got so > religious > now, it's lost its true meaning. - Mike [{at}ostic.demon.co.uk], > 2003-12-24 > > _______________________________________________ > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/bk@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

In message <CAJdnw=jsTHSSFFed6q5GhBDmn3hzcvLLv1uBMjqTqiaLAC0Yuw@mail.gmail.com>, Pat Brown <mistyhaven@gmail.com> writes: >Was just wondering what other members think. I have (and I am sure many >others as well) one family line where at least 8 cousins have the same >first names (Nicolaas Jacobus) and the only way to tell them apart is by >reference to their fathers. However they all have family nicknames (Nikkie, >Nico, Nokkie etc). I am considering adding the nicknames to the name field >so that it is easier to tell them apart at a glance instead of having to go >to the alternative name field. [] Two points: 1. where do you want to tell them apart? If in the F3 search, you can tick a box, and it'll show the alternative names as well (you should still put the surname in the nickname - e. g. Nico Brown - which is counterintuitive, if you want it found if you're searching for Browns). It shows people with alternative names with a symbol next to them (either * or +, I can't remember: the other one is for husband surname). 2. If you still decide to add them to the name field, do it in some way that does not break anything else - I can only think of searches, but there may be other things. Somewhere in the middle - such as "Nicolaas Jacobus (Nico) Brown" - seems the safest to me, but there may be other ways (some of them possibly including [square brackets]); probably best to wait to see if JS comments. (I _wouldn't_ put them first - "(Nico) Nicolaas Jacobus Brown" - or last, because that _would_ break the search function at least [that one would then no longer be found if you searched for "Nicol Brown"].) -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf I long for the commercialised Christmas of the 1970s. It's got so religious now, it's lost its true meaning. - Mike [{at}ostic.demon.co.uk], 2003-12-24

Was just wondering what other members think. I have (and I am sure many others as well) one family line where at least 8 cousins have the same first names (Nicolaas Jacobus) and the only way to tell them apart is by reference to their fathers. However they all have family nicknames (Nikkie, Nico, Nokkie etc). I am considering adding the nicknames to the name field so that it is easier to tell them apart at a glance instead of having to go to the alternative name field.

In message <327875229.1003234.1549749764546@mail.yahoo.com>, Vicki L. via BK <bk@rootsweb.com> writes: [] >I expected a Findagrave button "somewhere" on 7.3 and a way to add my >Findagrave memorial number on the edit screen, but I don't see an event >nor a button. Do these items only show up after I search the memorial ># from the Find screen? From http://www.bkwin.net/changes7.htm: the FindAGrave button was added at version 7.2.7, around 2017-5-16/17, so you should have it in version 7.3. For me, no it doesn't just appear if I search for it (I never have): it's in the Edit screen, on the Event/Fact tab. It - a button and a box you can put the number in - is about level with the "Male" of the Male/Female/Unknown buttons, but over to the right. If you click the button for someone where the box is empty (which it is unless you've put something in it), it still opens the FindAGrave site in your browser, just not on any particular memorial. I've ringed it on a screenshot: http://255soft.uk/temp/Clipboard01.gif . Are you not seeing it there? [] (Sorry, I can't answer any of your other questions.) -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Find out what works. Then do it. That's my system. I'm always surprised it isn't more popular. - Scott Adams, 2015

Well, I solved one problem, found the answer reading the archives. Now I have the Findagrave button and box on my Edit screen. The screen has to be 1024 x 768 or the button won't show, and I normally use a smaller screen size. Vicki -------------------------------------------- On Sat, 2/9/19, Vicki L. <vickivend@yahoo.com> wrote: Subject: Converted from 6.6 to 7.3, have questions To: "BK" <BK@Rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, February 9, 2019, 4:02 PM Ok, I'm lost.  Today, I upgraded from BK 6.6 to 7.3 on my Windows 8.1 Pro laptop.  Everything seemed to go well, but I can't find some items I expected. I had created my own unique Findagrave event called FAG and added the Memorial #.  It isn't in 7.3 to choose from Add Event from the Edit page.  When I type F multiple times when adding an Event, FindaGrave doesn't show up as a choice.  I do see it in the Alphabetical Report list as FindaGrave Memorial. The memorial # is still showing up on the people where I had added it in 6.6 as my custom field FAG. I had created my own unique Misc event to add miscellaneous notes to myself "in my face", like "may be wrong parents". I had created my own unique DNA event, and see that DNA is a new event type in 7.3, along with the Y-DNA, mtDNA, and atDNA which is great, but will my custom DNA come forward and populate into the new DNA event in 7.3?  It appears that it did, at least, I still show the DNA line on my father's screen. Is there an easy way to find the custom events I added to 6.6?  I may have found it, not sure.  On custom Reports, Alphabetical, on Fields to Include, my custom events seem to be #268-279. Do I need to add these custom events to 7.3 and re-convert my 6.6 database? I expected a Findagrave button "somewhere" on 7.3 and a way to add my Findagrave memorial number on the edit screen, but I don't see an event nor a button.  Do these items only show up after I search the memorial # from the Find screen? So I tried the Word Search, and put a known relative's FindaGrave memorial # in the FindAGrave box, then clicked Make List to Edit, then did it again clicking Create Report, and the response both times was No match found.  So I have no clue how to use this box. Any help appreciated. Vicki

Ok, I'm lost. Today, I upgraded from BK 6.6 to 7.3 on my Windows 8.1 Pro laptop. Everything seemed to go well, but I can't find some items I expected. I had created my own unique Findagrave event called FAG and added the Memorial #. It isn't in 7.3 to choose from Add Event from the Edit page. When I type F multiple times when adding an Event, FindaGrave doesn't show up as a choice. I do see it in the Alphabetical Report list as FindaGrave Memorial. The memorial # is still showing up on the people where I had added it in 6.6 as my custom field FAG. I had created my own unique Misc event to add miscellaneous notes to myself "in my face", like "may be wrong parents". I had created my own unique DNA event, and see that DNA is a new event type in 7.3, along with the Y-DNA, mtDNA, and atDNA which is great, but will my custom DNA come forward and populate into the new DNA event in 7.3? It appears that it did, at least, I still show the DNA line on my father's screen. Is there an easy way to find the custom events I added to 6.6? I may have found it, not sure. On custom Reports, Alphabetical, on Fields to Include, my custom events seem to be #268-279. Do I need to add these custom events to 7.3 and re-convert my 6.6 database? I expected a Findagrave button "somewhere" on 7.3 and a way to add my Findagrave memorial number on the edit screen, but I don't see an event nor a button. Do these items only show up after I search the memorial # from the Find screen? So I tried the Word Search, and put a known relative's FindaGrave memorial # in the FindAGrave box, then clicked Make List to Edit, then did it again clicking Create Report, and the response both times was No match found. So I have no clue how to use this box. Any help appreciated. Vicki

One useful feature might be the ability to find people with multiple selected flags. For instance, I would like to be able to find all people in the database who are my ancestors (Flag 1) and who are descendants of Old Bridgewater MA families (Flag 6). Dale H. Cook, Member, NEHGS, AGS, MA Soc. of Mayflower Descendants; Plymouth Co. MA Coordinator for the USGenWeb Project Administrator of https://plymouthcolony.net

Hi: Is there a way using "Utilities", then Global Search and Replace to change info in the notes? Thanks. Léandre

When searching for a word and you don’t want to include words that include your search word: type the word then type a space then hit enter. By putting the space after the word it forces the computer to exclude longer words that include the word you are looking for. For example type “ under “ and it won’t return underwater, understand, etc. Hope this helps in future searches Regards Karlena Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 ________________________________ From: Jim Dell2 via BK <bk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 11:50:43 PM To: bk@rootsweb.com Cc: Jim Dell2 Subject: [BK] Re: an interesting task: finding a part-word John I just had the same situation, but I produced the "Locations with Events" report. I was 2,800 pages long. Luckily I printed it as a PDF file and was able to use Acrobat to search to the specific item. Jim -----Original Message----- From: J. P. Gilliver (John) [mailto:G6JPG-255@255soft.uk] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 6:51 AM To: bk@rootsweb.com Subject: [BK] an interesting task: finding a part-word Looking through my list of locations, I spotted "Collier". It was obvious what had happened - I'd entered someone's occupation, but as event type as something other than Occupation which made whatever was in that column count as a location. However, _finding_ it wasn't easy. Since it was the result of a mistake, I couldn't search for a specific field, so had to use the Any field search; but since a lot of my ancestry is from mining areas, lots of them have "Colliery" - which includes Collier - in lots of places. I eventually found it, but I think it took me more than an hour (of looking through the individuals thrown up by the above search). [It had been entered as Ordination - I obviously hadn't pressed O twice.] Any suggestions on how I could have speeded the process of finding the error? (Changing the event type also would have lost the source; see separate thread.) -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf A. Top-posters. Q. What's the most irritating thing on Usenet? _______________________________________________ Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/bk@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/bk@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

To Anthony Williams Start BK 7.3 and while it is loading, tap the F7 (Function 7) or FN 7 key a few times. It should stop at the Welcome screen and not jump to the Edit screen. Then pick File, Re-Index the Database, and click the Index button. John Steed ________________________________ From: Anthony G. Williams <tonyandness@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2019 3:47 PM To: bk@rootsweb.com Subject: [BK] BreadSourcePointRecord xcode too large - source point 40282 Hi, I had a power outage while updating a record - After rebooting I get "BreadSourcePointRecord xcode too large - source point 40282" - from reading the archives I read re-indexing should solve this but I'm unsure how to perform this as when I start BK I get the error message and can't find a way to close this box - Closing using the x just repeats the error message. Thanks Anthony _______________________________________________ Remember - Use the Archives at https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Farchiver.rootsweb.com%2Fcgi-bin%2Fsearch&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cf6422ea1085e4a9eecdb08d67fb7ce1f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636836824751994376&amp;sdata=uX8BEK0pd5yLaOG6DfTlmy3JKArj9E8XVnXo%2FyOwgYQ%3D&amp;reserved=0 _______________________________________________ Email preferences: https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fbit.ly%2Frootswebpref&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cf6422ea1085e4a9eecdb08d67fb7ce1f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636836824752004387&amp;sdata=dcykkbfRdO%2BYyEtP0mSyL5NmZztGpTEfKRQZFgATGiw%3D&amp;reserved=0 Unsubscribe https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.rootsweb.com%2Fpostorius%2Flists%2Fbk%40rootsweb.com&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cf6422ea1085e4a9eecdb08d67fb7ce1f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636836824752004387&amp;sdata=VTaioVYiU63WuMGr%2BTmh%2FsqOqaRqsnV9N%2F8p%2Fq9CMh0%3D&amp;reserved=0 Privacy Statement: https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fancstry.me%2F2JWBOdY&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cf6422ea1085e4a9eecdb08d67fb7ce1f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636836824752004387&amp;sdata=0SCbAMVufPsWr%2BXG8ZPMQxSD5uai7jMuw7a2U3XkPCA%3D&amp;reserved=0 Terms and Conditions: https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fancstry.me%2F2HDBym9&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cf6422ea1085e4a9eecdb08d67fb7ce1f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636836824752004387&amp;sdata=M0UNoL%2F5QA1s%2FXEj6%2B4D3D4bRZKELWXeYNiLxF3%2FGVI%3D&amp;reserved=0 Rootsweb Blog: https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frootsweb.blog&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cf6422ea1085e4a9eecdb08d67fb7ce1f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636836824752004387&amp;sdata=30DoO1sLPp8DGa6U9lyOxonkqTioOVzVgr0AAVy3WdY%3D&amp;reserved=0 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi, I had a power outage while updating a record - After rebooting I get "BreadSourcePointRecord xcode too large - source point 40282" - from reading the archives I read re-indexing should solve this but I'm unsure how to perform this as when I start BK I get the error message and can't find a way to close this box - Closing using the x just repeats the error message. Thanks Anthony

Hi Bob. I started with FTDNA as they have Y-DNA and mtDNA. **> Autosomal, atDNA, is the only test that Ancestry does. BK has event fields for atDNA, mtDNA and Y-DNA. I enter my kit number - it is easy for mtDNA, the type of test e.g; [atDNA], [2018], [FTDNA:- 554089. Autosomal DNA, GedMatch T775786.] and source & note information. Just for me alone, this data is entered. [mtDNA], [2018], [FTDNA:- 554089. Mitochndrial DNA Full Sequence, Haplogroup H5a1.] and source & note information [Y-DNA], [2018], [FTDNA:- 554089. Y-111/500, Haplogroup R343/RM-269>Z251>->FGC65746.] and source & note information The source tells me all about my FTDNA account. It is a secure place to keep sensitive information secure and be readily accessible. I have also LivingDNA, test and I am awaiting my Ancestry.com test to be analysed. My Y-DNA information I have applies to all my Fathers. That sets up a nice report on lineage. Likewise for mtDNA as I have a number of different Mother's families. So that says a test has been done and the source tells about the company and give access (to the data - ID & Passwords). That information is in non-printing Citation Text & Comments. I have done this for my wife - obviously without the Y-DNA Hi hi.. Notice the GedMatch reference here. The test is wasted unless you tell people you have taken a test and make it so folks can find you. See < http://www.pycroft.co.nz/ >. Fish inn all p[onds, someone said to me, and yes, I am getting different fish! {Cousin interests}. At for the information of the test itself, the DNA data results, well I do not know what Ancestry.com presents. There may be a set of chromosome info that can be downloaded as [csv ] which in XL or similar arranged to saved or printed as a PDF and added as a media file. Much of what you want to do depends on your degree of study of the DNA subject and what you want to talk about and to whom.. Barry P. New Zealand. -----Original Message----- From: Bob Dunlop [mailto:rwdunlop@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, 20 January 2019 12:07 PM To: bk@rootsweb.com Subject: [BK] Recording DNA Hi to all. As this is my first posting for 2019 - Happy New Years to all of you. May it be the best yet but not as good as next year! I have recently completed a DNA test for genealogy (through Ancestry). An interesting step that I thought long and hard about before submitting my sample. However, I wasn't too surprised by the results. So it will be interesting to see if any other 'relatives' pop up. I am running BK 7.3.4 (11-Dec-18) on a PC under Windows 10 64 Bit. My program is registered. I have noticed in the program that there are Event/Facts for DNA. Specifically Y-DNA (used to explore a man's patrilineal or direct father's-line ancestry); mtDNA (DNA passed down almost unchanged from a mother to her children) and atDNA (autosomal DNA). I am wondering how these events are used or if anyone has used them and how you went about entering the data. I certainly am not a geneticist and I don't know how to decipher my 'raw data'. So putting specific parts of my raw data information into a specific Event/Fact is well beyond my knowledge base at present. I tried looking on the forum for information and in the help files but didn't see anything that would answer these questions. Any thoughts or direction is greatly appreciated. Bob _______________________________________________ Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/bk@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi to all. As this is my first posting for 2019 - Happy New Years to all of you. May it be the best yet but not as good as next year! I have recently completed a DNA test for genealogy (through Ancestry). An interesting step that I thought long and hard about before submitting my sample. However, I wasn't too surprised by the results. So it will be interesting to see if any other 'relatives' pop up. I am running BK 7.3.4 (11-Dec-18) on a PC under Windows 10 64 Bit. My program is registered. I have noticed in the program that there are Event/Facts for DNA. Specifically Y-DNA (used to explore a man's patrilineal or direct father's-line ancestry); mtDNA (DNA passed down almost unchanged from a mother to her children) and atDNA (autosomal DNA). I am wondering how these events are used or if anyone has used them and how you went about entering the data. I certainly am not a geneticist and I don't know how to decipher my 'raw data'. So putting specific parts of my raw data information into a specific Event/Fact is well beyond my knowledge base at present. I tried looking on the forum for information and in the help files but didn't see anything that would answer these questions. Any thoughts or direction is greatly appreciated. Bob

Do What I Think In other words ESP;-) -----Original Message----- From: J. P. Gilliver (John) [mailto:G6JPG-255@255soft.uk] Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2019 10:16 AM To: bk@rootsweb.com Subject: [BK] Re: changing event type loses source: why? In message <000001d4ace6$292baa10$7b82fe30$@yahoo.com>, Jim Dell2 via BK <bk@rootsweb.com> writes: >The biggest request I bet he gets is for DWIT. > >Jim What's DWIT? > >-----Original Message----- >From: J. P. Gilliver (John) [mailto:G6JPG-255@255soft.uk] >Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 10:10 AM >To: bk@rootsweb.com >Subject: [BK] Re: changing event type loses source: why? > >In message ><BN7PR02MB5092100EF987843D4A256C3791810@BN7PR02MB5092.namprd02.prod.outlo >ok.com>, John Steed <brothers_keeper@msn.com> writes: >>To J P Gilliver >> >>It is complicated to program a way to move the source and event notes, >>from an Event to a Fact. > >I hadn't realised it only occurred for that transition - such as, as I >had, from Ordination to Occupation. Presumably changing between >born/baptised/buried wouldn't invoke that popup. >> >>The source needs to be changed to point to a different record number in >>a different file, and some other things need to be changed also. >> >>Yes, I can program it if you give me enough time. >> >>I try to think of how common the problem is for users, and if it is a >>common problem, I spend the time to make a solution. If it is a rare >>problem for users, then I spend my time working on other things. I get > >I can't say. I don't think I encounter it _that_ often. Perhaps (a) if >the popup said something like "save your source first" rather than "the >source IS going to be lost", and (b) it were to pop up as soon as you >change an Event to a Fact, rather than just when you quit the person (or >..), it might be better - but I can see that even programming in those >changes would take time. > >>lots of requests for new features, new reports, or ways to make things >>better. Most of those requests do not come from this BK mailing list, >>so you only see a few of them. > >It would be interesting to see here the list of requests! >> >>I appreciate the suggestions, it helps make the program better. Your >>suggestion is on my list. > >(-: >> >>John Steed >> >John G. >[] How about a three-way referendum, allowing second choices? -- Are petitions unfair? See 255soft.uk (YOUR VOTE COUNTS)! [Pass it on.] -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf (please reply to group - they also serve who only look and lurk) (William Allen, 1999 - after Milton, of course) _______________________________________________ Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/bk@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

In message <000001d4ace6$292baa10$7b82fe30$@yahoo.com>, Jim Dell2 via BK <bk@rootsweb.com> writes: >The biggest request I bet he gets is for DWIT. > >Jim What's DWIT? > >-----Original Message----- >From: J. P. Gilliver (John) [mailto:G6JPG-255@255soft.uk] >Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 10:10 AM >To: bk@rootsweb.com >Subject: [BK] Re: changing event type loses source: why? > >In message ><BN7PR02MB5092100EF987843D4A256C3791810@BN7PR02MB5092.namprd02.prod.outlo >ok.com>, John Steed <brothers_keeper@msn.com> writes: >>To J P Gilliver >> >>It is complicated to program a way to move the source and event notes, >>from an Event to a Fact. > >I hadn't realised it only occurred for that transition - such as, as I >had, from Ordination to Occupation. Presumably changing between >born/baptised/buried wouldn't invoke that popup. >> >>The source needs to be changed to point to a different record number in >>a different file, and some other things need to be changed also. >> >>Yes, I can program it if you give me enough time. >> >>I try to think of how common the problem is for users, and if it is a >>common problem, I spend the time to make a solution. If it is a rare >>problem for users, then I spend my time working on other things. I get > >I can't say. I don't think I encounter it _that_ often. Perhaps (a) if >the popup said something like "save your source first" rather than "the >source IS going to be lost", and (b) it were to pop up as soon as you >change an Event to a Fact, rather than just when you quit the person (or >..), it might be better - but I can see that even programming in those >changes would take time. > >>lots of requests for new features, new reports, or ways to make things >>better. Most of those requests do not come from this BK mailing list, >>so you only see a few of them. > >It would be interesting to see here the list of requests! >> >>I appreciate the suggestions, it helps make the program better. Your >>suggestion is on my list. > >(-: >> >>John Steed >> >John G. >[] How about a three-way referendum, allowing second choices? -- Are petitions unfair? See 255soft.uk (YOUR VOTE COUNTS)! [Pass it on.] -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf (please reply to group - they also serve who only look and lurk) (William Allen, 1999 - after Milton, of course)

In message <BN7PR02MB509248565AB52181DC0D4E3191810@BN7PR02MB5092.namprd02.prod.outlo ok.com>, John Steed <brothers_keeper@msn.com> writes: >To J P Gilliver > >The event called "Event" expects a location. > >You can make your own custom fact (with a description) by picking from >the top menu Add, Custom Fact for Individual. > >You just can not use the exact spelling of any existing event or fact, >so you can not have a fact called Event but you can have a fact called >Awarded or something else. Thanks. I might do that (even if it's just "Event_" or similar). > >I am sorry I can not make different colors on the grid. However, when No problem. Maybe one of the things for version 8 (-: >viewing the grid, Events have the word IN before the location. Facts >do not have the word IN before the Description. Interesting; I hadn't noticed that. > >John Steed [] -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf After I'm dead I'd rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I have one. -Cato the Elder, statesman, soldier, and writer (234-149 BCE)

In message <CAK+BQvwa2+MsPtJvsuDgCC8OEw43BF6rQHFOCW23C=7OZ4NiWQ@mail.gmail.com>, Roy Marriott <roy.marriott@gmail.com> writes: >John Gilliver >To use the <Alt>-<Tab> with your "coal miners" ...I looked it up :-) ... >print your "location" list to a pdf file and then bring up the pdf >file along with BK. Also if you think you might need to track your >progress through the pdf file there is a tool in the Adobe Acrobat >Reader. Choose the "Fill and Sign" tool. You can put a check mark or X >when you've completed fixing a location item in BK. Then you can >re-save the pdf file with those marks. (Don't "sign" it or no more >changes). >Regards to all >Roy Marriott [] Thanks. I'd been hoping to avoid the print-to-PDF trick. The suggestion that somebody has made of using "Locations with events" - which _does_ have a preview button - would have worked, though. (OK, specifying "collier" _would_ still have also hit all the locations that have "Colliery", but would have listed the "collier" events separately under their own heading.) -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf After I'm dead I'd rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I have one. -Cato the Elder, statesman, soldier, and writer (234-149 BCE)

In message <BN7PR02MB509265FC8FA9B71FF13A8D9F91810@BN7PR02MB5092.namprd02.prod.outlo ok.com>, John Steed <brothers_keeper@msn.com> writes: >To Jim Dell > >I guess you did not pick the option to search for only one location >name. That is on the "Other Options" tab. > >Or else, perhaps you had a bad location that was just a couple letters >long, like TH > >In that case finding all locations with TH would give you a lot. I tended to have a lot of those, from when I'd entered part of a location then went to press F8, but hit F7 by mistake instead. (I now _immediately_ correct the error, then use the "delete unused locations" utility.) > >Here is a hint for cases like that: >If you ever get a strange case of a location that is only 1 or 2 >letters long, and you are trying to find who has that location, then >before you use the Locations with Events routine to find it, go first >to "File, Locations, Change Location Globally." Then type the bad >location name and put that on the top line. So if the location is just >two letters TH then put that on the top line. Then on the bottom line, >change it to something that no other location has, like XYZ > >Then the routine will change the one bad location with common letters >to a new name with uncommon letters. > >After that is done, you can use the Locations with Events and search >for only location XYZ and it should find it easily. Excellent trick! [] -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf After I'm dead I'd rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I have one. -Cato the Elder, statesman, soldier, and writer (234-149 BCE)

John Gilliver To use the <Alt>-<Tab> with your "coal miners" ...I looked it up :-) ... print your "location" list to a pdf file and then bring up the pdf file along with BK. Also if you think you might need to track your progress through the pdf file there is a tool in the Adobe Acrobat Reader. Choose the "Fill and Sign" tool. You can put a check mark or X when you've completed fixing a location item in BK. Then you can re-save the pdf file with those marks. (Don't "sign" it or no more changes). Regards to all Roy Marriott On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 10:02 AM J. P. Gilliver (John) <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> wrote: > > In message > <BN7PR02MB5092146FD8395E5CF2C448D891810@BN7PR02MB5092.namprd02.prod.outlo > ok.com>, John Steed <brothers_keeper@msn.com> writes: > >To J P Gilliver > > > >If there is a strange location name, and you want to find what event > >has that location, then go to Lists, "Locations with Events". > > > >Then set the option for "Show all events" > > > >Then on the "Other Options" tab pick "Show only locations containing:" > >and type the location such as: Collier > > > >Then click Preview. > > > >It should show which event has that location name. > [] > Thanks! I wasn't aware of that option. It'd still pick up all the > occurrences of "Colliery", but at least it'd limit it to where that > occurs in locations (i. e. not in comments etc.). > > Now, if only I could alt-tab (or similar) from such a "Preview" to the > edit screen ... (-: > -- > J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf > > The early worm gets the bird. > > _______________________________________________ > Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/bk@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community