To Tess Dewhurst OK, you pick File, Open database (the first line on the dropdown list, NOT open List of databases) Then you double click where it says Dropbox After you double click does it show other folders other than BK7 If not, perhaps the double click is not working If it does show other foders below Dropbox then double click on BK7 And then does it only show MAIN below BK7 and it does not show the other folders? If so, I do not know what the problem is. Try File, Open LIST of Databases. Then type in exactly C:\Dropbox\BK7\Karolyn and then click OK Does that open it or does it say that folder does not exist? John Steed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tess Dewhurst via" <[email protected]> To: "John Steed via" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 3:52 PM Subject: Re: [BK] PML Search Result matching Dewhurst > No John, it doesn't show anything except the Main database. > I have folders inside Dropbox\BK7 named > Karolyn > MAIN > Mazzucco > Salerno > Schaller > Split edwart Tammany desc > TIMurphy > but when I go to Dropbox\BK7\ all I see is MAIN > > I did try copying the TIMurphy folder into the plain Dropbox - but it > doesn't show up either. Looking at the files inside the folder it appears > to have all the standard BK files - they are dt7 files. > > This is very strange. > > On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 3:43 PM, John Steed via <[email protected]> wrote: > >> ===================================================================== >> A result of your requested PML search. To refine or cancel this >> search, please visit http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >> ===================================================================== >> Source: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [BK] BK7 not finding all the databases >> >> >> To Tess Dewhurst >> >> In BK if you go to File, Open Database, and then double click on the line >> that says Dropbox, does it show the correct folders below that folder? >> >> John Steed >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Tess Dewhurst via" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 11:57 AM >> Subject: [BK] BK7 not finding all the databases >> >> >> > Hi, I have a few databases that I have converted from BK6 on my desktop >> > computer. They live in my dropbox folder. Dropbox\BK7\name of database. >> > All works well on the desktop. >> > >> > However, on the laptop I am only able to see one of the databases. >> > When I go to open a different one, only the one shows up. >> > I have looked in the dropbox folder on the laptop and the other BK7 >> > folders >> > are there. >> > >> > Do I need to move them out of the BK7 folder in order to see them? >> > Remember - Use the Archives at >> > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in >> > the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >

No John, it doesn't show anything except the Main database. I have folders inside Dropbox\BK7 named Karolyn MAIN Mazzucco Salerno Schaller Split edwart Tammany desc TIMurphy but when I go to Dropbox\BK7\ all I see is MAIN I did try copying the TIMurphy folder into the plain Dropbox - but it doesn't show up either. Looking at the files inside the folder it appears to have all the standard BK files - they are dt7 files. This is very strange. On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 3:43 PM, John Steed via <[email protected]> wrote: > ===================================================================== > A result of your requested PML search. To refine or cancel this > search, please visit http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > ===================================================================== > Source: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [BK] BK7 not finding all the databases > > > To Tess Dewhurst > > In BK if you go to File, Open Database, and then double click on the line > that says Dropbox, does it show the correct folders below that folder? > > John Steed > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tess Dewhurst via" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 11:57 AM > Subject: [BK] BK7 not finding all the databases > > > > Hi, I have a few databases that I have converted from BK6 on my desktop > > computer. They live in my dropbox folder. Dropbox\BK7\name of database. > > All works well on the desktop. > > > > However, on the laptop I am only able to see one of the databases. > > When I go to open a different one, only the one shows up. > > I have looked in the dropbox folder on the laptop and the other BK7 > > folders > > are there. > > > > Do I need to move them out of the BK7 folder in order to see them? > > Remember - Use the Archives at > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > > the subject and the body of the message > > >

To Tess Dewhurst In BK if you go to File, Open Database, and then double click on the line that says Dropbox, does it show the correct folders below that folder? John Steed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tess Dewhurst via" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 11:57 AM Subject: [BK] BK7 not finding all the databases > Hi, I have a few databases that I have converted from BK6 on my desktop > computer. They live in my dropbox folder. Dropbox\BK7\name of database. > All works well on the desktop. > > However, on the laptop I am only able to see one of the databases. > When I go to open a different one, only the one shows up. > I have looked in the dropbox folder on the laptop and the other BK7 > folders > are there. > > Do I need to move them out of the BK7 folder in order to see them? > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, I have a few databases that I have converted from BK6 on my desktop computer. They live in my dropbox folder. Dropbox\BK7\name of database. All works well on the desktop. However, on the laptop I am only able to see one of the databases. When I go to open a different one, only the one shows up. I have looked in the dropbox folder on the laptop and the other BK7 folders are there. Do I need to move them out of the BK7 folder in order to see them?

Just as another option, if you use the "not married" option for the "lady friend" and include notes under the father that explain their relationship, that should cover any questions that might arise when someone unfamiliar with the family history is reading about it. That's what I've done in a similar situation. Jared > To Sue Horsman > > Currently it will list all the children of the first relationship, then > children of the second relationship, then the third relationship. > > So if the children were not born in that order, they will not be in "child > birth order" but by marriage or relationship order for the mother, then > sorted correctly for each mother. > > Since this sounds like a rare thing, I do not think I can change the > program > to handle this case. > > If it is important to you, you could fudge it a little by having him > married > to woman 1 with just the first children, then having the second > relationship > with the children from the second mother, then have him "remarried" to > spouse 1 (add spouse and type the BK number of the spouse) and that will > be > his third relationship with children by the wife again, then the next > relationship and children etc. In other words, he can be linked by > marriage > two times to the same spouse and have her be spouse 1 and 3. However, > that > might lead people to believe that he was not married to her during > relationship 2 > > John Steed > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "S Horsman via" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2015 10:51 AM > Subject: [BK] Suggestion for indented book report > > > On the 'indented book' report would it be possible to have an option to > print the children of a person in the sequence in which they were born? > My problem is a family where the father moved between his legal wife and > his > 'lady friend'. His first children were with his wife, then he had a few > with > the lady friend. He then went back to his wife, had a few more before > moving > on to another lady and starting again. > It would be nice to have a report with his children in the year of birth > sequence. > > Thanks > > Sue Horsman > > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------ Jared "Jed" Handspicker Usque Saeculis Vigilem ------------------------ Jared "Jed" Handspicker Usque Saeculis Vigilem

On Sat, 21 Mar 2015 10:11:28 -0400, pipsisewa via <[email protected]> wrote: > >Does anyone know of a convenient method to search for a >person by an event? > >For example, looking for someone named Smith who is/was >somehow associated (born, resided, married, died, etc.)with Harris Co. TX. > >I know that I can go to FIND/Word Search/Any Field/ And >enter Harris Co. TX which will give me a listing of EVERYONE in my database >who is associated with that location. > >However, I have very large database and that technique generates a long list >which must be scanned locate all the Smiths. Then further examined to find >the one person who >meets all the other criteria I am seeking. > >Perhaps there is an approach I haven't considered, any >thoughts ? You are using bK 7.0.45 ? -- Otto Jørgensen http://home.online.no/~otjoerge/ All email is checked by NIS2014

On Sat, 21 Mar 2015 14:51:11 +0000, S Horsman via <[email protected]> wrote: >On the 'indented book' report would it be possible to have an option to print the children of a person in the sequence in which they were born? >My problem is a family where the father moved between his legal wife and his 'lady friend'.  >His first children were with his wife, then he had a few with the lady friend. >He then went back to his wife, had a few more before moving on to another lady and starting again. >It would be nice to have a report with his children in the year of birth sequence. > You can sort the children in order for whole database and so you can for partners andyou can manualø move the children and partners. Whatyou finaly do in edit will be result in reports. You do not tell waht version you are using. I believe you use 7.0.45 ?? -- Otto Jørgensen http://home.online.no/~otjoerge/ All email is checked by NIS2014

On the 'indented book' report would it be possible to have an option to print the children of a person in the sequence in which they were born? My problem is a family where the father moved between his legal wife and his 'lady friend'.  His first children were with his wife, then he had a few with the lady friend. He then went back to his wife, had a few more before moving on to another lady and starting again. It would be nice to have a report with his children in the year of birth sequence. Thanks Sue Horsman

To Sue Horsman Currently it will list all the children of the first relationship, then children of the second relationship, then the third relationship. So if the children were not born in that order, they will not be in "child birth order" but by marriage or relationship order for the mother, then sorted correctly for each mother. Since this sounds like a rare thing, I do not think I can change the program to handle this case. If it is important to you, you could fudge it a little by having him married to woman 1 with just the first children, then having the second relationship with the children from the second mother, then have him "remarried" to spouse 1 (add spouse and type the BK number of the spouse) and that will be his third relationship with children by the wife again, then the next relationship and children etc. In other words, he can be linked by marriage two times to the same spouse and have her be spouse 1 and 3. However, that might lead people to believe that he was not married to her during relationship 2 John Steed ----- Original Message ----- From: "S Horsman via" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2015 10:51 AM Subject: [BK] Suggestion for indented book report On the 'indented book' report would it be possible to have an option to print the children of a person in the sequence in which they were born? My problem is a family where the father moved between his legal wife and his 'lady friend'. His first children were with his wife, then he had a few with the lady friend. He then went back to his wife, had a few more before moving on to another lady and starting again. It would be nice to have a report with his children in the year of birth sequence. Thanks Sue Horsman Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

To Pip You can quickly a search for Born or Died or Burried by going to Word Search and on the first tab enter the name at the top then enter Harris Co in only one place, first the Born location field and click Make List to Edit. Then go back and remove Harris Co from the Born location and type it in the Died location and click Make List to Edit. Then go back and remove Harris Co from the Died location and type it in the Burried location and click Make List to Edit. You can go to the Married tab and do a search for that location in Married (once with Husband name and once again with Wife name) To get Resided and all types of events on one report, go to Lists, Locations with Events. Pick the option to "Show all Events". Then click "Other Options" tab and pick "Include only locations containing" and type in Harris Co Then since it is a long list, pick File, Create TXT file. That will send the report to a text file. Then load the text file into your Word Processor. Then in your Word Processor search for SMITH to find people with that name with an event in Harris Co John Steed ----- Original Message ----- From: "pipsisewa via" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2015 10:11 AM Subject: [BK] Searching for a person by location > Hello John and All, > > > > Does anyone know of a convenient method to search for a > person by an event? > > > > For example, looking for someone named Smith who is/was > somehow associated (born, resided, married, died, etc.)with Harris Co. > TX. > > > > > I know that I can go to FIND/Word Search/Any Field/ And > enter Harris Co. TX which will give me a listing of EVERYONE in my > database > who is associated with that location. > > However, I have very large database and that technique generates a long > list > which must be scanned locate all the Smiths. Then further examined to > find > the one person who > > meets all the other criteria I am seeking. > > > > Perhaps there is an approach I haven't considered, any > thoughts ? > > > > Thanks, Pip > > > > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >

Hello John and All, Does anyone know of a convenient method to search for a person by an event? For example, looking for someone named Smith who is/was somehow associated (born, resided, married, died, etc.)with Harris Co. TX. I know that I can go to FIND/Word Search/Any Field/ And enter Harris Co. TX which will give me a listing of EVERYONE in my database who is associated with that location. However, I have very large database and that technique generates a long list which must be scanned locate all the Smiths. Then further examined to find the one person who meets all the other criteria I am seeking. Perhaps there is an approach I haven't considered, any thoughts ? Thanks, Pip

I am appreciating everyone's responses on how they use BK and in particular the Events vs Notes debate. Also I had not considered the Gedcom implications; thanks Roy. Does anyone have a response about Gedcom and the creation of custom events? But generally, do the respondents advocating making notes also do that for census findings? "Census" is an accepted Event/Fact. Also in Gedcom? If you are lucky enough to be able to show a sequence of census recordings, these can paint a picture of a family's births and removals over time, ages, professions, where born, how many children, how long married and the like. Where you have people living or stationed in the countries I have listed, where we cannot always cite census information, this shipping information acts, as I have said, as a sort of census substitute - a person or family at a moment in time. For example, I have been recording passenger information into England. In the pro forma, recorded are name, age, intended place of residence in the UK, nationality, intended future place of permanent residence. It also records if the person is travelling with husband or wife, or as an individual. Also of course it records where embarked and disembarked (the ship may have sailed from Melbourne but the passenger embarked en route at, say, Colombo). If it is a family travelling, it either names the children or lists the number of children by sex. In the absence of census information, the above shipping information is gold. Bill -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Roy Marriott via Sent: Saturday, 21 March 2015 12:24 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BK] New Event - Transit? For my two cents I would vote with Max. A note could be specific and flexible. If you prefer a named event, I would consider Jared's suggestion for "visited." If the place-to-place movement was because of military orders, you could use "stationed," but if the person was accompanied by family... well... I'll go back to Max's suggestion. In that case the person is "stationed" by virtue of military orders, but other members of the family are not "stationed" somewhere, and neither are they "visiting." If you are tracking a person or family's movement(s) as part of their history, a note seems to be the most flexible. Otherwise you might need these and more: "Visited" "Stationed" "Stationed (family)" "Vacationed" "Transit" I'm not familiar with gedcom conversions. Does a gedcom export turn a custom event into an event named "Event" or does it keep the custom name? Regards, Roy Marriott On 3/20/2015 6:20 AM, Max van Dam via wrote: > I follow a little bit the discussion about transit/visits/traveling > and so on. > > To my opinion is the best solution to make a note for that person and > not a new event. > In a note you can write what you found about that person. That gives a > maximum on flexibility. > > With my best regards, > > Max van Dam > Rechovoth > Israel > > http://www.maxvandam.info/ > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of J. P. Gilliver (John) via > Sent: 20 March 2015 09:10 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [BK] New Event - Transit? > > In message <[email protected]>, Bill > Webster via <[email protected]> writes: > [] >> I remain convinced that this shipping is an EVENT or fact. I could >> name the event "Shipping", but if they were crossing the Canada/US >> border by train or carriage or, more recently, travelling by air, >> Shipping sort-of applies but not accurately. In all cases, these > (For what it's worth, "shipping" has for some time covered transport > by assorted means - certainly more than just ships - for many years, > at least for goods; "shipping charges" equates to "postage" [or "P&P"] > or > "carriage".) > >> people were "in transit". Sometimes they were emigrating and other >> times not. > [] >> I still don't quite like the term "Transit" but for the time being it >> is the best I can think of. > [] > Travel(ling)? Journey? [Where appropriate] leaving or arriving? > Visiting? > -- > J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 > MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)[email protected]+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf > > I hate people who quote Shakespeare at you but are proud that they > can't add up. Stupid People. - Carol Vorderman (Radio Times, 1-7 March > 2003) Remember > - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks all for the suggestions. I look on these shipping records as census substitutes, which they are for places that have no census records for us to find. They are snapshots of moments in time. But censuses are where a person or family resided at that time. If however a person or family is travelling to visit relatives, or on business, they would not have considered themselves to have removed from a place that they intend to return to, or to have emigrated, and their declared intended place of residence they would have considered temporary. If we went to London and rented a short term apartment, we would not consider that to be residing there, as in making a home. It is not our place of residence. I remain convinced that this shipping is an EVENT or fact. I could name the event "Shipping", but if they were crossing the Canada/US border by train or carriage or, more recently, travelling by air, Shipping sort-of applies but not accurately. In all cases, these people were "in transit". Sometimes they were emigrating and other times not. We can record two events. Census could contain lots of data. Resided would show where they went to to settle for a time. In a similar way, "Transit" (or a better term) will record the act of moving. If it was emigration, that is a special class of transiting and would be recorded that way. Almost none of my families went to North America, but they went to more abstruse counties, often with the British Army. I have them coming and going from Ceylon, Mauritius, India, Australia, New Zealand and Ireland. I have found children in shipping records who were not previously known. I have an ancestor who is in London in the 1871 census but she could have gone there from Mauritius any time in the preceding 10 years. When I find that, it would be "Removing". I still don't quite like the term "Transit" but for the time being it is the best I can think of. Regards Bill -----Original Message----- From: Rick Beitler [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, 20 March 2015 3:11 AM To: Bill; J. P. Gilliver (John) via; [email protected] Subject: Re: [BK] New Event In that case, I believe the correct accepted genealogy term is "removed." Sam Smith in March 1897 removed from Pennsylvania to Ohio. In 1899 Sam Smith removed from Ohio back to Pennsylvania. And so on. Rick Beitler If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went. ~ Will Rogers & Rick Beitler -----Original Message----- From: Bill via Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 3:10 AM To: J. P. Gilliver (John) via Subject: Re: [BK] New Event But these people aren't either immigrating or emigrants. They are just moving back and forth Bill On 19 Mar 2015 18:40, "J. P. Gilliver (John) via" <[email protected]> wrote: > > In message <[email protected]>, Bill > Webster via <[email protected]> writes: > >I have just created a custom event that I named Transit, for want of > >a better word. Any other suggestions for this name?

I follow a little bit the discussion about transit/visits/traveling and so on. To my opinion is the best solution to make a note for that person and not a new event. In a note you can write what you found about that person. That gives a maximum on flexibility. With my best regards, Max van Dam Rechovoth Israel http://www.maxvandam.info/ -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of J. P. Gilliver (John) via Sent: 20 March 2015 09:10 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BK] New Event - Transit? In message <[email protected]>, Bill Webster via <[email protected]> writes: [] >I remain convinced that this shipping is an EVENT or fact. I could >name the event "Shipping", but if they were crossing the Canada/US >border by train or carriage or, more recently, travelling by air, >Shipping sort-of applies but not accurately. In all cases, these (For what it's worth, "shipping" has for some time covered transport by assorted means - certainly more than just ships - for many years, at least for goods; "shipping charges" equates to "postage" [or "P&P"] or "carriage".) >people were "in transit". Sometimes they were emigrating and other >times not. [] >I still don't quite like the term "Transit" but for the time being it >is the best I can think of. [] Travel(ling)? Journey? [Where appropriate] leaving or arriving? Visiting? -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)[email protected]+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf I hate people who quote Shakespeare at you but are proud that they can't add up. Stupid People. - Carol Vorderman (Radio Times, 1-7 March 2003) Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Roy, et al, Rather than "Stationed" there is already a "Military" event that I sometimes use for that purpose. I use Event far less often than I probably should, as I prefer to use the individual notes. Flows better as a narrative when I generate reports, and if not in the notes, and only listed as Event, I have to remember to select all used Events when I AM generating a report. Just my "style," I suppose. :-) Jared > > For my two cents I would vote with Max. A note could be specific and > flexible. If you prefer a named event, I would consider Jared's > suggestion for "visited." If the place-to-place movement was because of > military orders, you could use "stationed," but if the person was > accompanied by family... well... I'll go back to Max's suggestion. In > that case the person is "stationed" by virtue of military orders, but > other members of the family are not "stationed" somewhere, and neither > are they "visiting." If you are tracking a person or family's > movement(s) as part of their history, a note seems to be the most > flexible. Otherwise you might need these and more: > "Visited" > "Stationed" > "Stationed (family)" > "Vacationed" > "Transit" > > I'm not familiar with gedcom conversions. Does a gedcom export turn a > custom event into an event named "Event" or does it keep the custom name? > > Regards, > Roy Marriott > > > > > On 3/20/2015 6:20 AM, Max van Dam via wrote: >> I follow a little bit the discussion about transit/visits/traveling and >> so >> on. >> >> To my opinion is the best solution to make a note for that person and >> not a >> new event. >> In a note you can write what you found about that person. That gives a >> maximum on flexibility. >> >> With my best regards, >> >> Max van Dam >> Rechovoth >> Israel >> >> http://www.maxvandam.info/ >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >> Of >> J. P. Gilliver (John) via >> Sent: 20 March 2015 09:10 >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [BK] New Event - Transit? >> >> In message <[email protected]>, Bill >> Webster >> via <[email protected]> writes: >> [] >>> I remain convinced that this shipping is an EVENT or fact. I could >>> name the event "Shipping", but if they were crossing the Canada/US >>> border by train or carriage or, more recently, travelling by air, >>> Shipping sort-of applies but not accurately. In all cases, these >> (For what it's worth, "shipping" has for some time covered transport by >> assorted means - certainly more than just ships - for many years, at >> least >> for goods; "shipping charges" equates to "postage" [or "P&P"] or >> "carriage".) >> >>> people were "in transit". Sometimes they were emigrating and other >>> times not. >> [] >>> I still don't quite like the term "Transit" but for the time being it >>> is the best I can think of. >> [] >> Travel(ling)? Journey? [Where appropriate] leaving or arriving? >> Visiting? >> -- >> J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)[email protected]+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf >> >> I hate people who quote Shakespeare at you but are proud that they can't >> add >> up. Stupid People. - Carol Vorderman (Radio Times, 1-7 March 2003) >> Remember >> - Use the Archives at >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in >> the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> Remember - Use the Archives at >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------ Jared "Jed" Handspicker Usque Saeculis Vigilem

For my two cents I would vote with Max. A note could be specific and flexible. If you prefer a named event, I would consider Jared's suggestion for "visited." If the place-to-place movement was because of military orders, you could use "stationed," but if the person was accompanied by family... well... I'll go back to Max's suggestion. In that case the person is "stationed" by virtue of military orders, but other members of the family are not "stationed" somewhere, and neither are they "visiting." If you are tracking a person or family's movement(s) as part of their history, a note seems to be the most flexible. Otherwise you might need these and more: "Visited" "Stationed" "Stationed (family)" "Vacationed" "Transit" I'm not familiar with gedcom conversions. Does a gedcom export turn a custom event into an event named "Event" or does it keep the custom name? Regards, Roy Marriott On 3/20/2015 6:20 AM, Max van Dam via wrote: > I follow a little bit the discussion about transit/visits/traveling and so > on. > > To my opinion is the best solution to make a note for that person and not a > new event. > In a note you can write what you found about that person. That gives a > maximum on flexibility. > > With my best regards, > > Max van Dam > Rechovoth > Israel > > http://www.maxvandam.info/ > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > J. P. Gilliver (John) via > Sent: 20 March 2015 09:10 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [BK] New Event - Transit? > > In message <[email protected]>, Bill Webster > via <[email protected]> writes: > [] >> I remain convinced that this shipping is an EVENT or fact. I could >> name the event "Shipping", but if they were crossing the Canada/US >> border by train or carriage or, more recently, travelling by air, >> Shipping sort-of applies but not accurately. In all cases, these > (For what it's worth, "shipping" has for some time covered transport by > assorted means - certainly more than just ships - for many years, at least > for goods; "shipping charges" equates to "postage" [or "P&P"] or > "carriage".) > >> people were "in transit". Sometimes they were emigrating and other >> times not. > [] >> I still don't quite like the term "Transit" but for the time being it >> is the best I can think of. > [] > Travel(ling)? Journey? [Where appropriate] leaving or arriving? > Visiting? > -- > J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)[email protected]+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf > > I hate people who quote Shakespeare at you but are proud that they can't add > up. Stupid People. - Carol Vorderman (Radio Times, 1-7 March 2003) Remember > - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

In message <[email protected]>, Bill Webster via <[email protected]> writes: [] >I remain convinced that this shipping is an EVENT or fact. I could >name the event "Shipping", but if they were crossing the Canada/US >border by train or carriage or, more recently, travelling by air, >Shipping sort-of applies but not accurately. In all cases, these (For what it's worth, "shipping" has for some time covered transport by assorted means - certainly more than just ships - for many years, at least for goods; "shipping charges" equates to "postage" [or "P&P"] or "carriage".) >people were "in transit". Sometimes they were emigrating and other >times not. [] >I still don't quite like the term "Transit" but for the time being it >is the best I can think of. [] Travel(ling)? Journey? [Where appropriate] leaving or arriving? Visiting? -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)[email protected]+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf I hate people who quote Shakespeare at you but are proud that they can't add up. Stupid People. - Carol Vorderman (Radio Times, 1-7 March 2003)

Having read through most of this thread, I would suggest the event name "VISITED." Transit or visiting would not be proper usage for an event that happened in the past. I'm mostly curious about why one would want this action to be an event? Is it the intent to be able to pull up a report to see how many people in your database visited a particular location? Or, perhaps, have a timeline using this kind of event? Jared Handspicker, Nashua, NH, USA (New to list, but BK user for over 20 years) > In message <[email protected]>, Bill > Webster via <[email protected]> writes: > [] >>I remain convinced that this shipping is an EVENT or fact. I could >>name the event "Shipping", but if they were crossing the Canada/US >>border by train or carriage or, more recently, travelling by air, >>Shipping sort-of applies but not accurately. In all cases, these > > (For what it's worth, "shipping" has for some time covered transport by > assorted means - certainly more than just ships - for many years, at > least for goods; "shipping charges" equates to "postage" [or "P&P"] or > "carriage".) > >>people were "in transit". Sometimes they were emigrating and other >>times not. > [] >>I still don't quite like the term "Transit" but for the time being it >>is the best I can think of. > [] > Travel(ling)? Journey? [Where appropriate] leaving or arriving? > Visiting? > -- > J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)[email protected]+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf > > I hate people who quote Shakespeare at you but are proud that they can't > add > up. Stupid People. - Carol Vorderman (Radio Times, 1-7 March 2003) > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------ Jared "Jed" Handspicker Usque Saeculis Vigilem

But these people aren't either immigrating or emigrants. They are just moving back and forth Bill ingOn 19 Mar 2015 18:40, "J. P. Gilliver (John) via" <[email protected]> wrote: > > In message <[email protected]>, Bill > Webster via <[email protected]> writes: > >I have just created a custom event that I named Transit, for want of a > >better word.  Any other suggestions for this name? > > > >The advent of Shipping and other records makes this information equivalent > >to that in censuses.  So, if Census is an included Event/Fact, maybe it > >would be time to include whatever is decided to call what I have > >(temporarily) named Transit. > [] > I use Emigrated/Immigrated (depending on whether it's a departure or > arrival). Of course in these days of 'plane travel (and for ships when > short journeys are involved), it can be the same day, so maybe your new > event type _is_ needed. > -- > J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)[email protected]+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf > > "I'm a self-made man, thereby demonstrating once again the perils of unskilled > labor..." - Harlan Ellison > Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

That should be: George is the mother and Jane is the father. On Wednesday, March 18, 2015 8:57 AM, Jerry Rolow <[email protected]> wrote: Fortunately in my case having the wrong gender is an uncommon problem. I think the reason it has happened is because if one clicks anywhere near the gender boxes of an unmarried individual it will change the gender without question (bk6). So one just bumps along knowing that George is a male. George eventually marries Jane and they have children. Then I print a report saying that George is the mother and Mary is the father. I think that once the gender is set that it should not change without having to confirm the change. Jerry On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 10:31 PM, Paul J. Lareau via <[email protected]> wrote: A very common error (in my BK data) that is rather invisible until I encounter it later when adding marriages to people initially added as children, is that the already entered child, added long ago, was given the wrong gender accidentally.  This can happen due to "unisex" prenaming which is so common now, but the frequency of this error goes far beyond that situation.  A suggestion, John, although I have no idea if there is a coding way to implement it, is this. The current situation is that when entering a person or series of people for whom no automatic gender assignment is applied (it is automatically supplied, for example, in the case of entering a spouse or parent), and we might be typing fast, and not looking at the screen, when the window comes up to choose M, F, or U, and we either typed an ineligible character, typed the choice too lightly, or simply forgot to enter anything at all, the window remains there waiting for us to type on of the appropriate 3 characters, even though we have already starting to type the event line.  Progressing along the event line, it accepts the first M, F, or U you type, sets the gender to that code regardless of reality, enters what we have typed (including the letter it also used to indicate gender) and continues on typing the event content correctly.  The most common situation is for M & F, since the systems ignores the entry of any other keystrokes (including  numbers), often quietly makes entries masculine if the very next event date is in March or May, or feminine if the date is in February. While this does not prevent all errors of this kind, it would help if the NEXT keystroke that the system detects after the "set gender" window comes up, unless it was an M, F, or U, would not clear the window, and not proceed to gather additional data.  The best bet would be to force the entry to stop until the person clicks one of the check boxes that are showing (rather than a letter).    What has to be done is prevent the system from adding gender based on the presence of the appropriate letters in the text that follows. Better that doesn't allow you past the required gender code.  You would still be able to select the M, F, or U, rather than use the check box if that one of the codes were that VERY FIRST KEYSTROKE after the window came up. Paul J. Lareau Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message