In message <[email protected]>, Vicki L. <[email protected]> writes: [] >I find a married man without his wife in the 1910 census.  I show her >as died BEF 1910.  Next I go to the 1900 census and there she is.  So I >change her to died BET 1900-1910. I didn't know about BET - is that a GeDCom standard? I'd use BK's facility to enter two dates (in BK6, you double-click on the date box, though it sometimes seems to need a couple of goes to bring up the two-date box). [] >I usually share my information via Register Report rich text files.  I >do a global find and replace for BEF, BET, AFT, CIR so people new to >genealogy won't get confused.  Makes the report read better, too. [] Sounds good. As for CIR, I tend to use it in preference to ABT, though I have used some. (Similarly, I tend to used Baptised rather than Christened, though might be influenced by what the source uses.) -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)[email protected]+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Listen, three-eyes, don't you try to out-wierd me, I get stranger things than you free with my breakfast cereal. (Zaphod Beeblebrox in the link episode)

In message <[email protected]>, Bill Webster via <[email protected]> writes: >Great topic John. But first, Roy, what is the "Note square"? [Do you mean Thanks; glad I asked, as it's interesting that others have also pondered it! >this?] If so, do these have special signification? And where do you put >it, in a note or in the Date column? I think Roy just meant the (almost) square in which an N appears when you make a note - in other words, the event note. > >I use bef, abt or aft quite a lot, for the reasons raised, because you know (I'd forgotten AFT in the original question, but obviously the same applies there.) I think these days I tend not even to enter things like birth or death if I don't know them: my database is for me, and I can make the deductions. But I think I'm with the person who said that he puts in as precise as the data source is dated, and this only confuses those new to genealogy, not those who've been doing it a while. >one event but can't find the other. But I have always put just the year, as >in bef 1855. Now you have got me wondering if I should be more precise, as >in aft ddmmyyyy (in the non-American fashion). (No, the American fashion is mmddyy[yy], which has always struck me as strange, at least when using numbers only. I use ddmmyyyy in BK - set to _display_ as dd mmm yyyy - because I started that way; in everyday life, I use the ISO format [also used in some parts of the world] yyyymmdd, and would in BK if I'd been using it when I started.) > >Which are the prefixes recognised by Gedcom? And does BK follow suit? And >do they need to be in CAPS? I seem to reflect the implicit imprecision by Good questions! >putting them in lower case, as above. > >By the same token, when entering a wife, my practice is to enter her by her >family/maiden name, the name she was born with, in CAPS, but if I don't know >that name I enter her with her married/husband's name in Lower Case, again >to imply that it is not quite the full information. If I don't know, I enter her surname as ?. > >I am at present dealing with a case in point where I can't find this >woman's birth/baptism but there are 5 different other sources: shipping, >daughter's birth, husband's death, remarriage and death. From ages given in >these, she was born anytime from 1835 to 1842. I reckon the first three are >the most reliable because she was the informant but even these vary a lot. >Do I average them or put bef or aft? There is no right answer, I think. An ideal candidate for BK's "between" facility, I'd say (and some notes). [] -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)[email protected]+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Listen, three-eyes, don't you try to out-wierd me, I get stranger things than you free with my breakfast cereal. (Zaphod Beeblebrox in the link episode)

I use BEF with sources, and without sources (my source is "wild guess" until I find a real source).  Most common ways I use it: Parents have children, and perhaps I know the children birthdays from marriage or death records, or the tombstone.  I make assumptions that the father was 21 and mother was 18, and calculate a date of birth for parents as born BEF xxxx. I find a married man without his wife in the 1910 census.  I show her as died BEF 1910.  Next I go to the 1900 census and there she is.  So I change her to died BET 1900-1910. Using obituaries I'll put died BEF Sep xxxx or died AFT Sep xxxx, or usually just the year, not the month.  I don't normally put exact dates in unless there is something striking about it.  It may imply to me there are court records or a will, or a child died about that same time, or I'm trying to see how many months a person waited before re-marrying,   If I later find them with a child, a "wild guess" is that the marriage was after the date of death, and the year before the child was born, so I'll do a BET for the marriage. I usually share my information via Register Report rich text files.  I do a global find and replace for BEF, BET, AFT, CIR so people new to genealogy won't get confused.  Makes the report read better, too. Vicki From: J. P. Gilliver (John) via <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 6:47 PM Subject: [BK] How do you (discussion, not enquiry) express dates with the BEF(ore) tag? There are times when I know something happened before a date: I sometimes wonder how precise I should be with the date. For example, say someone is known, on a specific date, to be a widow(er): obviously, the DOD of the spouse is BEF(ore) that date. But do I say BEF ddmmyyyy? That's strictly _correct_, and on the whole is what I do, but some people seeing it might think it means they died quite close to it. I was just wondering how others express the date when they use BEEF. (Side idle thought: when the husband dies first, the wife is widowed, becoming a widow. When the wife dies first, the husband becomes a widower - so is he widowed, or widowered?) -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)[email protected]+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf "If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law." - Winston Churchill. Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bill, Sorry. Sometimes my brain goes out for a snack and doesn't leave a forwarding address. In this case, I forgot the real name of this note. By "Note square" I'm referring to the note associated with a particular event/date/location, accessed by clicking on the square under the "N". (BK 6.6) For your situation where "she was born anytime from 1835 to 1842." "...double click the date field. Then a windows will open where you may enter a beginning and ending date. For example, a person may have had a certain occupation starting at one date and ending at another date. You can also use that window to enter a date range because you are not certain of a date. For example if you know a person died between 1980 and 1985 you may enter it in that window..." Roy On 3/27/2015 12:01 AM, Bill Webster via wrote: > Great topic John. But first, Roy, what is the "Note square"? [Do you mean > this?] If so, do these have special signification? And where do you put > it, in a note or in the Date column? > > I use bef, abt or aft quite a lot, for the reasons raised, because you know > one event but can't find the other. But I have always put just the year, as > in bef 1855. Now you have got me wondering if I should be more precise, as > in aft ddmmyyyy (in the non-American fashion). > > Which are the prefixes recognised by Gedcom? And does BK follow suit? And > do they need to be in CAPS? I seem to reflect the implicit imprecision by > putting them in lower case, as above. > > By the same token, when entering a wife, my practice is to enter her by her > family/maiden name, the name she was born with, in CAPS, but if I don't know > that name I enter her with her married/husband's name in Lower Case, again > to imply that it is not quite the full information. > > I am at present dealing with a case in point where I can't find this > woman's birth/baptism but there are 5 different other sources: shipping, > daughter's birth, husband's death, remarriage and death. From ages given in > these, she was born anytime from 1835 to 1842. I reckon the first three are > the most reliable because she was the informant but even these vary a lot. > Do I average them or put bef or aft? There is no right answer, I think. > > Bill > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Roy Marriott via > Sent: Friday, 27 March 2015 12:27 PM > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [BK] How do you (discussion, not enquiry) express dates with > the BEF(ore) tag? > > > When using "CIR," "BEF," "AFT" I try to be as precise as the information in > my source(s), which is what I think you are saying in your comment. > Sometimes I can deduce something from a combination of sources, though I > can't think of an example right now, and try to document my reasoning. > Unfortunately, I may not have always been as careful. > > I understand and share your concern that there can be a potential for the > reader to infer a false accuracy with such precise dates. In some cases the > source information can help explain how the specificity of the date came > about. For example the obituary of person "A" can provide an "AFT" date for > the death of person "B" who survived person "A", but there is no way from > that source to determine by how _much_ after. It could be a day after (hence > the reason to include the known precision), or it could be several years > after. I try not to make assumptions, even though I'm sure that I have done > so in the past. > > Do you (or do other BKers) use the "Note square" to identify limitations, > qualifying information, or reasoning to support the "BEF"? > > Roy Marriott > > > On 3/26/2015 7:47 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) via wrote: >> There are times when I know something happened before a date: I >> sometimes wonder how precise I should be with the date. For example, >> say someone is known, on a specific date, to be a widow(er): >> obviously, the DOD of the spouse is BEF(ore) that date. But do I say BEF > ddmmyyyy? >> That's strictly _correct_, and on the whole is what I do, but some >> people seeing it might think it means they died quite close to it. >> >> I was just wondering how others express the date when they use BEEF. >> >> (Side idle thought: when the husband dies first, the wife is widowed, >> becoming a widow. When the wife dies first, the husband becomes a >> widower - so is he widowed, or widowered?) > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

There are times when I know something happened before a date: I sometimes wonder how precise I should be with the date. For example, say someone is known, on a specific date, to be a widow(er): obviously, the DOD of the spouse is BEF(ore) that date. But do I say BEF ddmmyyyy? That's strictly _correct_, and on the whole is what I do, but some people seeing it might think it means they died quite close to it. I was just wondering how others express the date when they use BEEF. (Side idle thought: when the husband dies first, the wife is widowed, becoming a widow. When the wife dies first, the husband becomes a widower - so is he widowed, or widowered?) -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)[email protected]+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf "If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law." - Winston Churchill.

Sometimes I beg the question and use "resided" with or without a location. For example, if John is mentioned as a survivor in his sister Mary's obit, I entered the year (indicating the inexactness of the info) in the "Resided" event, and then reference the sister's obit as the source. Mona > > I use bef, abt or aft quite a lot, for the reasons raised, because you know > one event but can't find the other. But I have always put just the year, as > in bef 1855. Now you have got me wondering if I should be more precise, as > in aft ddmmyyyy (in the non-American fashion). -- Mona Houser [email protected] Our Family -- http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monajo/ Buffalo County NEGenWeb --www.rootsweb.com/~nebuffal/

Oh I forgot to address the widow/widower thing. First the disclaimer: I am not an English professor, nor a teacher. But I have pondered the question myself. Here's what I've come up with, but I have no authority to say that it is the *correct* answer. My answer to your either/or question is: Yes. According to http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/widowered "Definition of WIDOWERED : made a widower <his widowered father — William Humphrey>" "This word doesn't usually appear in our free dictionary, but the definition from our premium Unabridged Dictionary is offered here on a limited basis. Note that some information is displayed differently in the Unabridged." In common usage, we (in the U.S.) don't usually use the word "widowered" (it drives spell checkers crazy, too), but evidently it is a word. Roy On 3/26/2015 7:47 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) via wrote: > There are times when I know something happened before a date: I > sometimes wonder how precise I should be with the date. For example, say > someone is known, on a specific date, to be a widow(er): obviously, the > DOD of the spouse is BEF(ore) that date. But do I say BEF ddmmyyyy? > That's strictly _correct_, and on the whole is what I do, but some > people seeing it might think it means they died quite close to it. > > I was just wondering how others express the date when they use BEEF. > > (Side idle thought: when the husband dies first, the wife is widowed, > becoming a widow. When the wife dies first, the husband becomes a > widower - so is he widowed, or widowered?)

Hi list, I don't think the discussion was about the definition of BEF. I thought the thread was begun to have a brief discussion of the precision of the dates used with BEF, AFT, etc. My input was that I use the precision that is directly provided by my source(s). Perhaps my response was a bit too wordy. :-( Regards, Roy On 3/26/2015 9:47 PM, Jim Dell wrote: > For non Genealogist it is always a problem. For people that have been doing > genealogy for while I have never had a problem. > For the non-genealogist, if they ask I tell them it means before or in the > case of AFT after. > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Roy Marriott via > Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 9:27 PM > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [BK] How do you (discussion, not enquiry) express dates with > the BEF(ore) tag? > > > When using "CIR," "BEF," "AFT" I try to be as precise as the information in > my source(s), which is what I think you are saying in your comment. > Sometimes I can deduce something from a combination of sources, though I > can't think of an example right now, and try to document my reasoning. > Unfortunately, I may not have always been as careful. > > I understand and share your concern that there can be a potential for the > reader to infer a false accuracy with such precise dates. In some cases the > source information can help explain how the specificity of the date came > about. For example the obituary of person "A" can provide an "AFT" date for > the death of person "B" who survived person "A", but there is no way from > that source to determine by how _much_ after. It could be a day after (hence > the reason to include the known precision), or it could be several years > after. I try not to make assumptions, even though I'm sure that I have done > so in the past. > > Do you (or do other BKers) use the "Note square" to identify limitations, > qualifying information, or reasoning to support the "BEF"? > > Roy Marriott > > > On 3/26/2015 7:47 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) via wrote: >> There are times when I know something happened before a date: I >> sometimes wonder how precise I should be with the date. For example, >> say someone is known, on a specific date, to be a widow(er): >> obviously, the DOD of the spouse is BEF(ore) that date. But do I say BEF > ddmmyyyy? >> That's strictly _correct_, and on the whole is what I do, but some >> people seeing it might think it means they died quite close to it. >> >> I was just wondering how others express the date when they use BEEF. >> >> (Side idle thought: when the husband dies first, the wife is widowed, >> becoming a widow. When the wife dies first, the husband becomes a >> widower - so is he widowed, or widowered?) > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > >

For non Genealogist it is always a problem. For people that have been doing genealogy for while I have never had a problem. For the non-genealogist, if they ask I tell them it means before or in the case of AFT after. Jim -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Roy Marriott via Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 9:27 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [BK] How do you (discussion, not enquiry) express dates with the BEF(ore) tag? When using "CIR," "BEF," "AFT" I try to be as precise as the information in my source(s), which is what I think you are saying in your comment. Sometimes I can deduce something from a combination of sources, though I can't think of an example right now, and try to document my reasoning. Unfortunately, I may not have always been as careful. I understand and share your concern that there can be a potential for the reader to infer a false accuracy with such precise dates. In some cases the source information can help explain how the specificity of the date came about. For example the obituary of person "A" can provide an "AFT" date for the death of person "B" who survived person "A", but there is no way from that source to determine by how _much_ after. It could be a day after (hence the reason to include the known precision), or it could be several years after. I try not to make assumptions, even though I'm sure that I have done so in the past. Do you (or do other BKers) use the "Note square" to identify limitations, qualifying information, or reasoning to support the "BEF"? Roy Marriott On 3/26/2015 7:47 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) via wrote: > There are times when I know something happened before a date: I > sometimes wonder how precise I should be with the date. For example, > say someone is known, on a specific date, to be a widow(er): > obviously, the DOD of the spouse is BEF(ore) that date. But do I say BEF ddmmyyyy? > That's strictly _correct_, and on the whole is what I do, but some > people seeing it might think it means they died quite close to it. > > I was just wondering how others express the date when they use BEEF. > > (Side idle thought: when the husband dies first, the wife is widowed, > becoming a widow. When the wife dies first, the husband becomes a > widower - so is he widowed, or widowered?) Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

When using "CIR," "BEF," "AFT" I try to be as precise as the information in my source(s), which is what I think you are saying in your comment. Sometimes I can deduce something from a combination of sources, though I can't think of an example right now, and try to document my reasoning. Unfortunately, I may not have always been as careful. I understand and share your concern that there can be a potential for the reader to infer a false accuracy with such precise dates. In some cases the source information can help explain how the specificity of the date came about. For example the obituary of person "A" can provide an "AFT" date for the death of person "B" who survived person "A", but there is no way from that source to determine by how _much_ after. It could be a day after (hence the reason to include the known precision), or it could be several years after. I try not to make assumptions, even though I'm sure that I have done so in the past. Do you (or do other BKers) use the "Note square" to identify limitations, qualifying information, or reasoning to support the "BEF"? Roy Marriott On 3/26/2015 7:47 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) via wrote: > There are times when I know something happened before a date: I > sometimes wonder how precise I should be with the date. For example, say > someone is known, on a specific date, to be a widow(er): obviously, the > DOD of the spouse is BEF(ore) that date. But do I say BEF ddmmyyyy? > That's strictly _correct_, and on the whole is what I do, but some > people seeing it might think it means they died quite close to it. > > I was just wondering how others express the date when they use BEEF. > > (Side idle thought: when the husband dies first, the wife is widowed, > becoming a widow. When the wife dies first, the husband becomes a > widower - so is he widowed, or widowered?)

To me, the difference between circa [ca] and bef is that circa means 'around/about' and bef is generally any time before that date. That's how I use them. Fran L On 26/03/2015 7:47 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) via wrote: > There are times when I know something happened before a date: I > sometimes wonder how precise I should be with the date. For example, say > someone is known, on a specific date, to be a widow(er): obviously, the > DOD of the spouse is BEF(ore) that date. But do I say BEF ddmmyyyy? > That's strictly _correct_, and on the whole is what I do, but some > people seeing it might think it means they died quite close to it. > > I was just wondering how others express the date when they use BEEF. > > (Side idle thought: when the husband dies first, the wife is widowed, > becoming a widow. When the wife dies first, the husband becomes a > widower - so is he widowed, or widowered?) --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

Does anyone have an example of the right way to fill out the Source Page. I do feel confident I am doing it correctly.. Thank you, Jude

To Daan Arentsen Some reports have the option to show Baptism and Burial when Birth and Death are not known. Currently the name search (Select Person) screen has the option to show people in Birth year order. If you have that option turned on, then if the birth date is blank, it should use the baptism year or christened year. So that search should put people in the correct order. If you have problems with that, please send me a private email the details about the person. For example, does the person have the event Baptised or Christened? What is the exact date in that field? Does the person have no Born event or a blank Born event? John Steed ----- Original Message ----- From: "info Arentsen via" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 6:41 AM Subject: [BK] Printing/viewing baptizing/burial day > For many persons in my database (total database 38.000) I have only the > date of baptizing instead of birth and burial date instead date of death. > I'm still using BK6.6 > > 1) Unfortunately in several overviews no dates were shown (only dates of > birth and death) > 2) Also when searching people no baptism day is shown if birtday is > unknown. So the search order is disturbed. > > Is there a possibility to tell the system to show baptizing date > and/or burial dates instead if dates of birth and/or death were unknown? > Otherwise is it possible to make a change to do so? > > Daan Arentsen > > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

For many persons in my database (total database 38.000) I have only the date of baptizing instead of birth and burial date instead date of death. I'm still using BK6.6 1) Unfortunately in several overviews no dates were shown (only dates of birth and death)  2) Also when searching people no baptism day is shown if birtday is unknown. So the search order is disturbed. Is there a possibility to tell the system to show baptizing date  and/or burial dates instead if dates of birth and/or death were unknown? Otherwise is it possible to make a change to do so? Daan Arentsen

Daan, In cases where I find I only have baptismal/christening information and/or burial vs. death, I tend to use an "Abt." date for both. For death, using the same year (buried 12-Jul-1885) as "Abt. 1885" might even be a bit more specific, depending on known information. Might be "Jul-1885" or just "1885." However, it is less precise with baptisms, as they can be the same day, a day later, a week, a month, a year, or an adult baptism (the worst-case scenario). It mostly depends on what is known of the family. For instance, in some of my Canadian records, the child was nearly always baptized within days of birth. If I run across a family listed as Baptist, I might put in a date range (such as a baptism occurring in 1885, I might put birth date as "1875-1885" if I know enough information about the individual to KNOW they weren't yet born in 1874, for instance. Yes, it's no exact science, but it can be used as a tool for identification purposes. And, yes, there might be times such usage leads to an incorrect date. However, it's a means to an end. If it is to help determine birth order, or to find a person more easily in a search, then it is providing that amount of help. Just my suggestions from my own experiences. Maybe John can provide a means to search on those events that will help. If not, maybe using something similar to the above approach might be of some use in the interim? Jared > For many persons in my database (total database 38.000) I have only the > date of baptizing instead of birth and burial date instead date of death. > I'm still using BK6.6 > > 1) Unfortunately in several overviews no dates were shown (only dates of > birth and death)  > 2) Also when searching people no baptism day is shown if birtday is > unknown. So the search order is disturbed. > > Is there a possibility to tell the system to show baptizing date  > and/or burial dates instead if dates of birth and/or death were unknown? > Otherwise is it possible to make a change to do so? > > Daan Arentsen > > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >

Yes, that was why it was a puzzle. I knew the folders were there but BK7 wasn't finding them. John gave me the solution. I had to go to File then, Open list of databases and then type in the precise path to one of the other databases. Once I did that, all the others were available again. Thanks for thinking it over too. On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 7:01 PM, Jim Dell via <[email protected]> wrote: > Tess > Forget BK for a second, can you see the folders in Windows Explorer? > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of > John Steed via > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 4:22 PM > To: Tess Dewhurst; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [BK] PML Search Result matching Dewhurst > > To Tess Dewhurst > > OK, you pick File, Open database (the first line on the dropdown list, NOT > open List of databases) > > Then you double click where it says Dropbox > > After you double click does it show other folders other than BK7 > > If not, perhaps the double click is not working > > If it does show other foders below Dropbox then double click on BK7 > > And then does it only show MAIN below BK7 and it does not show the other > folders? > > If so, I do not know what the problem is. > > Try File, Open LIST of Databases. > > Then type in exactly C:\Dropbox\BK7\Karolyn and then click OK > > Does that open it or does it say that folder does not exist? > > John Steed > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tess Dewhurst via" <[email protected]> > To: "John Steed via" <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 3:52 PM > Subject: Re: [BK] PML Search Result matching Dewhurst > > > > No John, it doesn't show anything except the Main database. > > I have folders inside Dropbox\BK7 named > > Karolyn > > MAIN > > Mazzucco > > Salerno > > Schaller > > Split edwart Tammany desc > > TIMurphy > > but when I go to Dropbox\BK7\ all I see is MAIN > > > > I did try copying the TIMurphy folder into the plain Dropbox - but it > > doesn't show up either. Looking at the files inside the folder it appears > > to have all the standard BK files - they are dt7 files. > > > > This is very strange. > > > > On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 3:43 PM, John Steed via <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> ===================================================================== > >> A result of your requested PML search. To refine or cancel this > >> search, please visit http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > >> ===================================================================== > >> Source: [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: [BK] BK7 not finding all the databases > >> > >> > >> To Tess Dewhurst > >> > >> In BK if you go to File, Open Database, and then double click on the > line > >> that says Dropbox, does it show the correct folders below that folder? > >> > >> John Steed > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Tess Dewhurst via" <[email protected]> > >> To: <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 11:57 AM > >> Subject: [BK] BK7 not finding all the databases > >> > >> > >> > Hi, I have a few databases that I have converted from BK6 on my > desktop > >> > computer. They live in my dropbox folder. Dropbox\BK7\name of > database. > >> > All works well on the desktop. > >> > > >> > However, on the laptop I am only able to see one of the databases. > >> > When I go to open a different one, only the one shows up. > >> > I have looked in the dropbox folder on the laptop and the other BK7 > >> > folders > >> > are there. > >> > > >> > Do I need to move them out of the BK7 folder in order to see them? > >> > Remember - Use the Archives at > >> > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > >> > ------------------------------- > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > >> in > >> > the subject and the body of the message > >> > > >> > > Remember - Use the Archives at > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > > the subject and the body of the message > > > > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >

Tess Forget BK for a second, can you see the folders in Windows Explorer? Jim -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Steed via Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 4:22 PM To: Tess Dewhurst; [email protected] Subject: Re: [BK] PML Search Result matching Dewhurst To Tess Dewhurst OK, you pick File, Open database (the first line on the dropdown list, NOT open List of databases) Then you double click where it says Dropbox After you double click does it show other folders other than BK7 If not, perhaps the double click is not working If it does show other foders below Dropbox then double click on BK7 And then does it only show MAIN below BK7 and it does not show the other folders? If so, I do not know what the problem is. Try File, Open LIST of Databases. Then type in exactly C:\Dropbox\BK7\Karolyn and then click OK Does that open it or does it say that folder does not exist? John Steed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tess Dewhurst via" <[email protected]> To: "John Steed via" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 3:52 PM Subject: Re: [BK] PML Search Result matching Dewhurst > No John, it doesn't show anything except the Main database. > I have folders inside Dropbox\BK7 named > Karolyn > MAIN > Mazzucco > Salerno > Schaller > Split edwart Tammany desc > TIMurphy > but when I go to Dropbox\BK7\ all I see is MAIN > > I did try copying the TIMurphy folder into the plain Dropbox - but it > doesn't show up either. Looking at the files inside the folder it appears > to have all the standard BK files - they are dt7 files. > > This is very strange. > > On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 3:43 PM, John Steed via <[email protected]> wrote: > >> ===================================================================== >> A result of your requested PML search. To refine or cancel this >> search, please visit http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >> ===================================================================== >> Source: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [BK] BK7 not finding all the databases >> >> >> To Tess Dewhurst >> >> In BK if you go to File, Open Database, and then double click on the line >> that says Dropbox, does it show the correct folders below that folder? >> >> John Steed >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Tess Dewhurst via" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 11:57 AM >> Subject: [BK] BK7 not finding all the databases >> >> >> > Hi, I have a few databases that I have converted from BK6 on my desktop >> > computer. They live in my dropbox folder. Dropbox\BK7\name of database. >> > All works well on the desktop. >> > >> > However, on the laptop I am only able to see one of the databases. >> > When I go to open a different one, only the one shows up. >> > I have looked in the dropbox folder on the laptop and the other BK7 >> > folders >> > are there. >> > >> > Do I need to move them out of the BK7 folder in order to see them? >> > Remember - Use the Archives at >> > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in >> > the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for the suggestion Jared, but I've been using dropbox with my BK files since it started. It's the best way for me to keep current on both my home computer and my laptop when I'm away from home. On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Jared Handspicker via <[email protected]> wrote: > > Of course, another issue could be Dropbox. I have heard, in the past, of > issue with folders synching properly. I don't use it, myself, so can only > suggest Googling "Dropbox folder issues" and you'll see what I mean. > Surely something to consider if you've tried all of John's suggestions and > are still having problems. > > Jared > > > > To Tess Dewhurst > > > > OK, you pick File, Open database (the first line on the dropdown list, > NOT > > open List of databases) > > > > Then you double click where it says Dropbox > > > > After you double click does it show other folders other than BK7 > > > > If not, perhaps the double click is not working > > > > If it does show other foders below Dropbox then double click on BK7 > > > > And then does it only show MAIN below BK7 and it does not show the other > > folders? > > > > If so, I do not know what the problem is. > > > > Try File, Open LIST of Databases. > > > > Then type in exactly C:\Dropbox\BK7\Karolyn and then click OK > > > > Does that open it or does it say that folder does not exist? > > > > John Steed > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Tess Dewhurst via" <[email protected]> > > To: "John Steed via" <[email protected]> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 3:52 PM > > Subject: Re: [BK] PML Search Result matching Dewhurst > > > > > >> No John, it doesn't show anything except the Main database. > >> I have folders inside Dropbox\BK7 named > >> Karolyn > >> MAIN > >> Mazzucco > >> Salerno > >> Schaller > >> Split edwart Tammany desc > >> TIMurphy > >> but when I go to Dropbox\BK7\ all I see is MAIN > >> > >> I did try copying the TIMurphy folder into the plain Dropbox - but it > >> doesn't show up either. Looking at the files inside the folder it > >> appears > >> to have all the standard BK files - they are dt7 files. > >> > >> This is very strange. > >> > >> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 3:43 PM, John Steed via <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >>> ===================================================================== > >>> A result of your requested PML search. To refine or cancel this > >>> search, please visit http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > >>> ===================================================================== > >>> Source: [email protected] > >>> Subject: Re: [BK] BK7 not finding all the databases > >>> > >>> > >>> To Tess Dewhurst > >>> > >>> In BK if you go to File, Open Database, and then double click on the > >>> line > >>> that says Dropbox, does it show the correct folders below that folder? > >>> > >>> John Steed > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "Tess Dewhurst via" <[email protected]> > >>> To: <[email protected]> > >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 11:57 AM > >>> Subject: [BK] BK7 not finding all the databases > >>> > >>> > >>> > Hi, I have a few databases that I have converted from BK6 on my > >>> desktop > >>> > computer. They live in my dropbox folder. Dropbox\BK7\name of > >>> database. > >>> > All works well on the desktop. > >>> > > >>> > However, on the laptop I am only able to see one of the databases. > >>> > When I go to open a different one, only the one shows up. > >>> > I have looked in the dropbox folder on the laptop and the other BK7 > >>> > folders > >>> > are there. > >>> > > >>> > Do I need to move them out of the BK7 folder in order to see them? > >>> > Remember - Use the Archives at > >>> > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > >>> > ------------------------------- > >>> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >>> quotes > >>> in > >>> > the subject and the body of the message > >>> > > >>> > >> Remember - Use the Archives at > >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > >> in > >> the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > Remember - Use the Archives at > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > > the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------ > Jared "Jed" Handspicker > Usque Saeculis Vigilem > > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >

John, That fixed it! I typed in the path in the open list of databases and it not only found the one I typed, but now they are all listed when I go to Open Database. Thank you. I still have the BK6 files for these databases but I believe I've made changes since the conversion, so I hated to do that. We do appreciate your willingness to help figure out these problems that pop up. On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 4:21 PM, John Steed via <[email protected]> wrote: > ===================================================================== > A result of your requested PML search. To refine or cancel this > search, please visit http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > ===================================================================== > Source: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [BK] PML Search Result matching Dewhurst > > > To Tess Dewhurst > > OK, you pick File, Open database (the first line on the dropdown list, NOT > open List of databases) > > Then you double click where it says Dropbox > > After you double click does it show other folders other than BK7 > > If not, perhaps the double click is not working > > If it does show other foders below Dropbox then double click on BK7 > > And then does it only show MAIN below BK7 and it does not show the other > folders? > > If so, I do not know what the problem is. > > Try File, Open LIST of Databases. > > Then type in exactly C:\Dropbox\BK7\Karolyn and then click OK > > Does that open it or does it say that folder does not exist? > > John Steed > > >

Of course, another issue could be Dropbox. I have heard, in the past, of issue with folders synching properly. I don't use it, myself, so can only suggest Googling "Dropbox folder issues" and you'll see what I mean. Surely something to consider if you've tried all of John's suggestions and are still having problems. Jared > To Tess Dewhurst > > OK, you pick File, Open database (the first line on the dropdown list, NOT > open List of databases) > > Then you double click where it says Dropbox > > After you double click does it show other folders other than BK7 > > If not, perhaps the double click is not working > > If it does show other foders below Dropbox then double click on BK7 > > And then does it only show MAIN below BK7 and it does not show the other > folders? > > If so, I do not know what the problem is. > > Try File, Open LIST of Databases. > > Then type in exactly C:\Dropbox\BK7\Karolyn and then click OK > > Does that open it or does it say that folder does not exist? > > John Steed > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tess Dewhurst via" <[email protected]> > To: "John Steed via" <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 3:52 PM > Subject: Re: [BK] PML Search Result matching Dewhurst > > >> No John, it doesn't show anything except the Main database. >> I have folders inside Dropbox\BK7 named >> Karolyn >> MAIN >> Mazzucco >> Salerno >> Schaller >> Split edwart Tammany desc >> TIMurphy >> but when I go to Dropbox\BK7\ all I see is MAIN >> >> I did try copying the TIMurphy folder into the plain Dropbox - but it >> doesn't show up either. Looking at the files inside the folder it >> appears >> to have all the standard BK files - they are dt7 files. >> >> This is very strange. >> >> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 3:43 PM, John Steed via <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> ===================================================================== >>> A result of your requested PML search. To refine or cancel this >>> search, please visit http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >>> ===================================================================== >>> Source: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [BK] BK7 not finding all the databases >>> >>> >>> To Tess Dewhurst >>> >>> In BK if you go to File, Open Database, and then double click on the >>> line >>> that says Dropbox, does it show the correct folders below that folder? >>> >>> John Steed >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Tess Dewhurst via" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 11:57 AM >>> Subject: [BK] BK7 not finding all the databases >>> >>> >>> > Hi, I have a few databases that I have converted from BK6 on my >>> desktop >>> > computer. They live in my dropbox folder. Dropbox\BK7\name of >>> database. >>> > All works well on the desktop. >>> > >>> > However, on the laptop I am only able to see one of the databases. >>> > When I go to open a different one, only the one shows up. >>> > I have looked in the dropbox folder on the laptop and the other BK7 >>> > folders >>> > are there. >>> > >>> > Do I need to move them out of the BK7 folder in order to see them? >>> > Remember - Use the Archives at >>> > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search >>> > ------------------------------- >>> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in >>> > the subject and the body of the message >>> > >>> >> Remember - Use the Archives at >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in >> the subject and the body of the message >> > > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------ Jared "Jed" Handspicker Usque Saeculis Vigilem