For consideration: Proof of Lineage/Proof of Parentage Report. Such a report might be helpful for use for lineage societies such as DAR, SAR, Williamsburg Society, etc. The basics already exist with the Relationship report. The only thing needed would be the addition of source for parentage and a graphic representation. Just thinkin' Jim --- Please visit The Ball Family of Carter's Run http://www.ballsplace.com

To Carole Caruso Press F3 before you select people to keep the same BK number I do not have a list of all function keys. I normally add a special function key for things that most people do not need, but some people may need (something someone suggested in the past that I thought most people did not need). If a lot of people need something, I normally make it a visible option on the screen. Maybe I should make "keep the same BK number" a visible option. However it might cause problems if there are 5000 people in the database, and they select 100 people and then the database has 4900 empty records in it. So I sometimes make things not visible to keep problems from happening. John Steed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carole Edwards Caruso via" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 6:40 PM Subject: [BK] Function Keys > Please - is there a list of ALL the function keys available for use with > BK7? > > They are neither in the HELP nor the manual. > > I know there is a function key that lets you keep the same numbers when > you split a database. Maybe I am just having a bad day, but I sure can't > find this key in HELP, or the Archives, or anywhere in my own notes. > > The function keys are not much good if we don't know about them. > > If someone would please publish a list of ALL of them, I promise I will > print it out. > > Thanks. > > Carole > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >

Please - is there a list of ALL the function keys available for use with BK7? They are neither in the HELP nor the manual. I know there is a function key that lets you keep the same numbers when you split a database. Maybe I am just having a bad day, but I sure can't find this key in HELP, or the Archives, or anywhere in my own notes. The function keys are not much good if we don't know about them. If someone would please publish a list of ALL of them, I promise I will print it out. Thanks. Carole

John I am using BK6.6.18 and previously I used XP operating system but that computer died on me and now I am using Windows 8. Previously I created New Custom events for individuals and on the new computer I tried to recreate them again but I get a message about CustomEvents.BK which file I can't find. I vaguely recall a txt file with a list of my new events in them but my notes died with the old computer and I can't find it on my backups. When I now try to create a csv file I get this message; File BKPerson.DT6 Key value not found Retrieve error 4 xcode=0 What am I doing wrong? Jacques BENADIE [email protected] [email protected] 031 - 708 3746 073 560 0657

To Jacques Benadie 1. Be sure you have a current Backup of your data. 2. From the main BK screen pick File, Quality Check. That should fix the stat 4 error. 3. I will send you a private email about how to recreate your custom events file. John Steed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacques Benadie via" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 4:56 AM Subject: [BK] Custom Events > John > > > > I am using BK6.6.18 and previously I used XP operating system but that > computer died on me and now I am using Windows 8. > > > > Previously I created New Custom events for individuals and on the new > computer I tried to recreate them again but I get a message about > CustomEvents.BK which file I can't find. > > > > I vaguely recall a txt file with a list of my new events in them but my > notes died with the old computer and I can't find it on my backups. > > > > When I now try to create a csv file I get this message; > > File BKPerson.DT6 > > Key value not found > > Retrieve error 4 xcode=0 > > > > What am I doing wrong? > > > > Jacques BENADIE > > [email protected] > > [email protected] > > 031 - 708 3746 > > 073 560 0657 > > > > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >

In message <[email protected]>, Roy Marriott via <[email protected]> writes: >Don't know "why" exactly. But I think sometimes Windows doesn't release >stuff that it's supposed to (perhaps especially so with a forced close). >It might just be a placebo effect, but I think it helps to reboot every >once in a while anyway. I know what you mean. I shut down when I go to work anyway. >P.S. I'm using Win7, but I wish they would still be supporting XP :-( [] They do (well, security patches anyway) if you run the unofficial patch that makes your machine appear to be a point-of-sale terminal ... (-: -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)[email protected]+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf If it ain't broke, fix it 'til it is.

In message <[email protected]>, John Steed <[email protected]> writes: >To J. P. Gilliver > >I am not sure what is causing that problem on your computer. > >As a test, go to the main "Welcome" screen and click Other, Compute >Relationship and type in the first name, then the second name and see >if it works OK. It does - but then, it usually works from the Edit screen as well. I haven't figured out what causes the locking behaviour, other than that I have the feeling it's more likely if I've been using the prog. for longer (which would usually mean spending a long time at the edit screen and/or list screen, at least not going back to the welcome screen; at present I go in [I have it set to go straight to edit], come out to Welcome, and do an all-fields search for Staffordshire, then go into the edit screen[s] from that list). > >I will do some checking to see if I can duplicate the problem you are >having starting it from the Edit screen. If I figure out what's causing it, I'll pass it on. > >John Steed [] -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)[email protected]+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf If it ain't broke, fix it 'til it is.

In message <[email protected]>, Roy Marriott via <[email protected]> writes: >Pretty sure you're already doing this, but just in case... are you >re-booting the operating system, especially after a Task Manager >forced-close? >Roy Marriott [] Why? I know doing a forced-close isn't something one should do (although in this case I had no choice), but once it's been done, what does an OS restart reset in BK? -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)[email protected]+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf "I'm a self-made man, thereby demonstrating once again the perils of unskilled labor..." - Harlan Ellison

I've just confirmed that Henry Young Mitchell is the 4th great Grandfather of (me). So I click the "Cl_o_se" button (or use Alt-o). The button moves in and out, but that's all that happens. I try the X at the top right - same (button presses but that's all). I try File, Close - nothing happens. (I expected to be taken back to the edit screen.) The Preview button works, giving me a preview of a printed page. Close from _that_ gets me back to the Compute Relationships screen. But I still can't get out of it. This happens not infrequently when I use the Compute Relationships screen - but not always. I don't know what triggers this behaviour. I'm going to have to crash BK (via Task Manager) to get out. OK, done that. Going back in, so I can tell you what version: 7.0.49; running on XP SP3. I'll just try the CR screen again: still works - but this time Close brought me back to Edit. Oops, some flashing of screens: I'm back in the CR screen again - and this time, I can't get out again. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)[email protected]+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Another lively meeting of thr 1922 Committee - the secret gathering of BBC presenters that gets its name from the fact that no one is sober after twenty-past seven. - Eddie Mair, RT 16-22 April 2011

At 08:48 PM 5/31/2015, Roy Marriott wrote: >Don't know "why" exactly. But I think sometimes Windows doesn't release stuff that it's supposed to (perhaps especially so with a forced close). I have seen that behavior with other programs, such as an image editor that I often use. Sometimes it hangs, and after a forced close I can restart the application but it continues to misbehave. I have to restart the system (XP SP3) to get the application to work properly. Dale H. Cook, Member, NEHGS and MA Society of Mayflower Descendants; Plymouth Co. MA Coordinator for the USGenWeb Project Administrator of http://plymouthcolony.net

Don't know "why" exactly. But I think sometimes Windows doesn't release stuff that it's supposed to (perhaps especially so with a forced close). It might just be a placebo effect, but I think it helps to reboot every once in a while anyway. P.S. I'm using Win7, but I wish they would still be supporting XP :-( Roy On 5/31/2015 7:20 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) via wrote: > In message <[email protected]>, Roy Marriott via > <[email protected]> writes: >> Pretty sure you're already doing this, but just in case... are you >> re-booting the operating system, especially after a Task Manager >> forced-close? >> Roy Marriott > [] > Why? I know doing a forced-close isn't something one should do (although > in this case I had no choice), but once it's been done, what does an OS > restart reset in BK?

Pretty sure you're already doing this, but just in case... are you re-booting the operating system, especially after a Task Manager forced-close? Roy Marriott On 5/31/2015 4:37 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) via wrote: > I've just confirmed that > Henry Young Mitchell > is the 4th great Grandfather of > (me). > > So I click the "Cl_o_se" button (or use Alt-o). The button moves in and > out, but that's all that happens. I try the X at the top right - same > (button presses but that's all). I try File, Close - nothing happens. > > (I expected to be taken back to the edit screen.) > > The Preview button works, giving me a preview of a printed page. Close > from _that_ gets me back to the Compute Relationships screen. But I > still can't get out of it. > > This happens not infrequently when I use the Compute Relationships > screen - but not always. I don't know what triggers this behaviour. I'm > going to have to crash BK (via Task Manager) to get out. > > OK, done that. Going back in, so I can tell you what version: 7.0.49; > running on XP SP3. > > I'll just try the CR screen again: still works - but this time Close > brought me back to Edit. Oops, some flashing of screens: I'm back in the > CR screen again - and this time, I can't get out again.

To J. P. Gilliver I am not sure what is causing that problem on your computer. As a test, go to the main "Welcome" screen and click Other, Compute Relationship and type in the first name, then the second name and see if it works OK. I will do some checking to see if I can duplicate the problem you are having starting it from the Edit screen. John Steed ----- Original Message ----- From: "J. P. Gilliver (John) via" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 4:37 PM Subject: [BK] I can't escape the "Compute Relationships" screen > I've just confirmed that > Henry Young Mitchell > is the 4th great Grandfather of > (me). > > So I click the "Cl_o_se" button (or use Alt-o). The button moves in and > out, but that's all that happens. I try the X at the top right - same > (button presses but that's all). I try File, Close - nothing happens. > > (I expected to be taken back to the edit screen.) > > The Preview button works, giving me a preview of a printed page. Close > from _that_ gets me back to the Compute Relationships screen. But I > still can't get out of it. > > This happens not infrequently when I use the Compute Relationships > screen - but not always. I don't know what triggers this behaviour. I'm > going to have to crash BK (via Task Manager) to get out. > > OK, done that. Going back in, so I can tell you what version: 7.0.49; > running on XP SP3. > > I'll just try the CR screen again: still works - but this time Close > brought me back to Edit. Oops, some flashing of screens: I'm back in the > CR screen again - and this time, I can't get out again. > -- > J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)[email protected]+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf > > Another lively meeting of thr 1922 Committee - the secret gathering of BBC > presenters that gets its name from the fact that no one is sober after > twenty-past seven. - Eddie Mair, RT 16-22 April 2011 > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >

Along this same theme I do the same, but with the surnames in capitals. No hyphens between names, and add yob-yod or yom as applicable for pictures etc. The notes I have converted all into internal notes in BK. Regards John Bright in NZ

In message <[email protected]>, Jim Dell via <[email protected]> writes: >Yes in windows explorer right click  on the name and select the rename >option Or just select it and press the F2 key. (If using before Windows 7, be more careful not to overtype the file extension - .txt, .jpg, or whatever.) The F2 method for rename works in lots of places in Windows; (I like it because I'm going to use the keyboard anyway to do the rename, but then I like keyboard shortcuts over the mouse method for lots of things - others MMV.) >Beware if BK was linked to the old name it won't find it Yes, when you go to "images", BK will cause an error sound (and IIRR give a popup or something saying it can't find a file). Not always obvious which one, if you have lots of images attached to the person. I'm not sure whether it does something similar for text files. Anyway, you just edit the filename BK had to whatever you've changed it to. >Jim >On May 29, 2015 7:33 PM, Jude via <[email protected]> wrote: [] > it the best way.  Can you change a file name on your computer rather than > through BK? I fear that's the _only_ way: I don't _think_ you _can_ change it from within BK. Though come to think of it, that would be a useful function to be added (maybe using the F2 key!). Another addition that would be useful in these circumstances is auto column adjustment: in a lot of Windows prog.s (including Explorer itself), if you double-click the cursor over the column header divider when it's a double-headed arrow (as would be the case when it's between "Picture file name" and "Ind/Fam"), the column to the left expands in width to accommodate the longest entry there. If BK implemented that one, it'd save scrolling left and right to see the filename. [] -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)[email protected]+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf "Film: The Mackintosh Man, starring Paul Newman. Contains flashing images." - quoted on TNQ 2014-12-12.

At 04:57 PM 5/29/2015, Jude wrote: >... I like the names as I do not remember the numbers. I always access the text files through the Notes tab, which eliminates that possible problem. Dale H. Cook, Member, NEHGS and MA Society of Mayflower Descendants; Plymouth Co. MA Coordinator for the USGenWeb Project Administrator of http://plymouthcolony.net

In message <[email protected]>, Singer35 via <[email protected]> writes: >I agree. Names don't change, but number can. > >Fran L [] So your solution to the problem of more than one person with the same name is ... -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)[email protected]+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Never make the same mistake twice...there are so many new ones to make!

In message <[email protected]om>, Jude via <[email protected]> writes: >Thanks all for your input. I have been using names, but will think about >having there name and also adding the number. Looking through my text files >I like the names as I do not remember the numbers. When I have more than >one file on a person I will save as this: Willard Crandall Obituary or >Willard Crandall biography. > >Jude [] I only have a small handful of text files - mainly things I've inherited from others' research; I mainly use BK's internal notes. But the same question arises for other filetypes - in my case images of documents. I have subdirectories (folders) below my PICS directory; currently I have ones called baptisms, births, burials, census-info (that has further subdirectories), deaths, director.ies (for trade directories etc.), manifest.s, obits, passport, probate, stones, and a few specific ones. Within those, I use mainly the BK numbers - sometimes (without good reason) with a year added. In the marriage.s folder, if it's the page from the BMD registers it only has one BK number, if it's from the actual marriage register, it has two (e. g. "780-781"). Not necessarily the best solution: just what I do. I suppose the main question is, what do you anticipate _doing_ with your files? I nearly always access mine via BK, so it doesn't really matter what I call them. I still think it'd be useful if BK accepted _relative_ paths for files (for backwards compatibility it could tell by whether the second character in the link is ":", or the first was "\", or similar), but we've had this discussion before, and it doesn't, so I assume there's a good reason. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)[email protected]+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Never make the same mistake twice...there are so many new ones to make!

On Fri, 29 May 2015 16:09:47 -0400, Singer35 via <[email protected]> wrote: >I agree. Names don't change, but number can. > Number does not change if you do not do that. Names depend on spelling in all search By my database the number are not to be changed. _) -- Otto Jørgensen http://home.online.no/~otjoerge/ All email is checked by NIS2014

On Fri, 29 May 2015 12:50:10 -0500, Jude via <[email protected]> wrote: >What is the best way to name text files? Persons name or persons number? >Any advise would be appreciated. > For most txt-, media files and pictures I start the fileneme with the BK-number and have differebt additional information. -- Otto Jørgensen http://home.online.no/~otjoerge/ All email is checked by NIS2014