On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 10:18:39 +1200, "Andrew Jackett" <[email protected]> wrote: >Oops. My thinking was clouded. The use of zeroes instead of underscore >characters was out. They have quite separate meanings in BK. > >Maybe CIR, ABT, BEF, AFT etc. and the numbers and the underscore character >as well could all be acceptable input for working with the quick date >display set of characters. > >I said last time: "I was thinking if your number system allowed zeroes to be >converted to >underscores you could enter 23 April of an unknown year as 23040000 or April >1806 as 00041806." > >What I should've said was instead of 23040000 for 23 April of an unknown >year use 2304____ and instead of 00041806 for April 1806 use __041806 > Rember that we are in non-english language countries and even the month are in BK and Gedcom for three characters as mai des not MaY Dec and AFT are ett We mus have it correct as we also print reports and for som reports we use full name of monthj as desember, not December The converting part in BK are at this point not perfect and John does know that as well as we in Scandinatian. The same are in other non-english language Using 00 XX __(underscaore) are not accroding to Gedcom and will make troubles withe eg. gedcom to MyH or Geni or similar webtree systems -- Otto Jørgensen http://home.online.no/~otjoerge/ All email is checked by NIS2014

To John Gilliver, There are two settings you can have in BK for dates. With one you can allow your input to be in a series of numbers or underscores and what you say is correct for that. It has to be in that format or it gets confused. The other option is to use your own formatting and then just a year on its own is OK. Year on its own is fine e.g. 1948 (or 197_ this meaning some year in the 1970's). You can also record for instance wedding anniversaries without the year stated by entering 6-Mar-____ for the 6th of March in an unknown year so the system is quite flexible. Andrew Jackett of New Zealand. -----Original Message----- From: Otto Jørgensenvia Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 7:52 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BK] How do I write month and year only? Now dateentry generally. On Wed, 17 Jun 2015 07:17:37 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John) via" <[email protected]> wrote: >In message <[email protected]>, Otto Jørgensen >via <[email protected]> writes: >[] >>In Norrway we recomend ddmmmyyyy >>thats giv >>1814 >>may 1814 >>17 may 1814 >[] >I think you have to enter the unknown characters, so for your examples >__ ___ 1814 or ____1814 >__ May 1814 or __051814 > >- if you just enter 1814, BK won't recognise it properly. I do not need to enter anything different from what I said in my message, We enter correct and the result is correct in gedcom We have made the correct description in our national helpfile to BK. It is a complete desciption of all items i "Option of BK" -- Otto Jørgensen http://home.online.no/~otjoerge/ All email is checked by NIS2014 Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On Wed, 17 Jun 2015 20:38:38 +1200, "Andrew Jackett" <[email protected]> wrote: >To John Gilliver, > >There are two settings you can have in BK for dates. With one you can allow >your input to be in a series of numbers or underscores and what you say is >correct for that. It has to be in that format or it gets confused. The >other option is to use your own formatting and then just a year on its own >is OK. Year on its own is fine e.g. 1948 (or 197_ this meaning some year in >the 1970's). You can also record for instance wedding anniversaries without >the year stated by entering 6-Mar-____ for the 6th of March in an unknown >year so the system is quite flexible. > the drawback is that if we use the standard form that gives us 17 mai 1814 and it is correct accoring to that, but the coverting to gedcom does not convert 17 mai 1814 to 17 may 1814 But if we use figures 170151814 that is OK, but then we have to convert the month of the date separately (wjat ever language) allso the abbr. as AFT BEF we ad before date isnot coverted to the word use is the language. Her we should hav BEF 17 may 1814 converted to før 17 mai 1814 -- Otto Jørgensen http://home.online.no/~otjoerge/ All email is checked by NIS2014

I mentioned it already earlier why not ABT 15 MAY 1814, if the event has been MAY 1814 You give the correct information and it is o.k. for the gedcom. With my best regards, Max van Dam Rechovoth Israel http://www.maxvandam.info/ -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of J. P. Gilliver (John) via Sent: 17 June 2015 09:18 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BK] How do I write month and year only? Now date entry generally. In message <[email protected]>, Otto Jørgensen via <[email protected]> writes: [] >In Norrway we recomend ddmmmyyyy >thats giv >1814 >may 1814 >17 may 1814 [] I think you have to enter the unknown characters, so for your examples __ ___ 1814 or ____1814 __ May 1814 or __051814 - if you just enter 1814, BK won't recognise it properly. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)[email protected]+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Play dirty. If a fellow contestant asks the audience if they've got any requests for what he or she should play, reply, "Yeah... Monopoly." Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On Wed, 17 Jun 2015 07:17:37 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John) via" <[email protected]> wrote: >In message <[email protected]>, Otto Jørgensen >via <[email protected]> writes: >[] >>In Norrway we recomend ddmmmyyyy >>thats giv >>1814 >>may 1814 >>17 may 1814 >[] >I think you have to enter the unknown characters, so for your examples >__ ___ 1814 or ____1814 >__ May 1814 or __051814 > >- if you just enter 1814, BK won't recognise it properly. I do not need to enter anything different from what I said in my message, We enter correct and the result is correct in gedcom We have made the correct description in our national helpfile to BK. It is a complete desciption of all items i "Option of BK" -- Otto Jørgensen http://home.online.no/~otjoerge/ All email is checked by NIS2014

In message <[email protected]>, Otto Jørgensen via <[email protected]> writes: [] >In Norrway we recomend ddmmmyyyy >thats giv >1814 >may 1814 >17 may 1814 [] I think you have to enter the unknown characters, so for your examples __ ___ 1814 or ____1814 __ May 1814 or __051814 - if you just enter 1814, BK won't recognise it properly. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)[email protected]+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Play dirty. If a fellow contestant asks the audience if they've got any requests for what he or she should play, reply, "Yeah... Monopoly."

Thanks to all the folk who have responded to my query. Some interesting responses. Otto Jorgensen makes a strong and worthwhile point with regard to how GEDCOM and other people will deal with our data. It's most important that the GEDCOM export understands what we are trying to do and people are in the know, don't get confused as well. The system I have recently been using, putting the number of the quarter in brackets and then entering in the year e.g. (3) 1918 seems to be one of only a few ways people can express quarters in registration years in different genealogy software I still use to publish data to the web, so I have adopted that one instead of the format I used to enter namely SepQtr1918 which wouldn't go through. It seems that BK allows us to be flexible even though the red warning notices come up. It would be good to have a distinction made in Brother's Keeper between Invalid dates and Incomplete dates. Others on this forum have made that point too. That way people would understand better why the warning messages come up. Andrew Jackett of New Zealand. Andrew Jackett of New Zealand. -----Original Message----- From: Otto Jørgensenvia Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 12:10 AM To: Spicer Bob ; [email protected] Subject: Re: [BK] How do I write month and year only? On Tue, 16 Jun 2015 09:04:21 +0100, Spicer Bob via <[email protected]> wrote: >I use the notation ???? if I only know the year, or put ?? for the day if I >know the month. For GRO dates I use 99 for the day and the month number for >the Quarter. for example 99061854 for Q2 1854. This translates to >99-JUN-1854. It's my own notation, but I know what it means. In the notes I >put the full GRO reference if you use 99 and other similar unlegal figurcombin ation you also make error in gedcom for those who will import your data -- Otto Jørgensen http://home.online.no/~otjoerge/ All email is checked by NIS2014 Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On Tue, 16 Jun 2015 18:00:28 -0400 (EDT), Jared Handspicker via <[email protected]> wrote: >I enter using dd-Mon-yyyy Jan Feb Mar, etc. for month. I find using >ddmmyyyy can sometimes provide incorrect data if interpreted by those on >opposing sides of "the Pond." Europeans tend to use dd/mm/yyyy, while >many Americans use mm/dd/yyyy. > In Norrway we recomend ddmmmyyyy thats giv 1814 may 1814 17 may 1814 Som put ?? xx 00 and other figure in date field. Thats makes trouble -- Otto Jørgensen http://home.online.no/~otjoerge/ All email is checked by NIS2014

In message <[email protected]>, Jared Handspicker via <[email protected]> writes: >I enter using dd-Mon-yyyy Jan Feb Mar, etc. for month. I find using >ddmmyyyy can sometimes provide incorrect data if interpreted by those on >opposing sides of "the Pond." Europeans tend to use dd/mm/yyyy, while >many Americans use mm/dd/yyyy. [] BK will accept and display in various formats. For example, I can enter ddmmyyyy, and it displays as dd Mmm yyyy - for example 140664 (I can also enter just 6 digits for a certain range) and it displays 14 Jun 1964. You can set what format, and even change and it'll translate, though any you've entered as non-standard won't. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)[email protected]+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Less rules means fewer grammar? - Marjorie in UMRA, 2014-1-28 13:14

(For the avoidance of doubt, I use the ddmmyyyy format.) In message <[email protected]>, Jared Handspicker via <[email protected]> writes: >Sorry if this comes across as redundant. > >When I have quarters to enter, often with UK registration of birth dates, >I simply put the year, and expand on the quarter in notes. One of the Yes, that's what I do. Since it's almost exclusively UK BMD registrations where I only know the quarter, I put CIR if it's the first one (when I remember). The single-digit wildcard doesn't work: fourth quarter is months 10, 11, and 12, but entering __1_yyyy gets translated to January (and IIRR __0_yyyy doesn't work either). The shortform date entry - ddmmyy for (roughly) 20th century dates - doesn't work with lots of (possibly any?) wildcards: I can't enter ____60 and get __ ___ 1960, for example. Or ____6_. [] >What I have had trouble with, and again, ended up using explanatory notes, >instead, is when I have the right day and month, but the years "range." >Such as individuals known to be born on 05-Mar-191X (1912, 1914, 1917, or >1919, depending on the record). Listing 1912, and commenting in the notes >that the date could be any of the others, is a relatively safe way of >being as accurate as possible. Have you tried _ instead of X? [] >> It seems that BK allows us to be flexible even though the red warning >> notices come up. It would be good to have a distinction made in Brother's >> Keeper between Invalid dates and Incomplete dates. Others on this forum >> have made that point too. That way people would understand better why the >> warning messages come up. I'll add to the plea/request though (-: >> >> Andrew Jackett of New Zealand. >> >> >> Andrew Jackett of New Zealand. [] -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)[email protected]+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf "I hate the guys that criticize the enterprise of other guys whose enterprise has made them rise above the guys who criticize!" (W9BRD, former editor of "How's DX?" column in "QST")

I think the original question to the list was "How do I write month and year only?" I would answer that you can do exactly that. Simply type in as Mmm YYYY (e.g., Jun 1868) or whatever you have set up to convert to (e.g., Jun-1868). It seems that trying to use the shortcut of digital input for BK to convert just makes it more complicated in this case. Regards, Roy Marriott On 6/16/2015 6:31 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) via wrote: > In message <[email protected]>, > Jared Handspicker via <[email protected]> writes: >> I enter using dd-Mon-yyyy Jan Feb Mar, etc. for month. I find using >> ddmmyyyy can sometimes provide incorrect data if interpreted by those on >> opposing sides of "the Pond." Europeans tend to use dd/mm/yyyy, while >> many Americans use mm/dd/yyyy. > [] > BK will accept and display in various formats. For example, I can enter > ddmmyyyy, and it displays as dd Mmm yyyy - for example 140664 (I can > also enter just 6 digits for a certain range) and it displays 14 Jun > 1964. You can set what format, and even change and it'll translate, > though any you've entered as non-standard won't.

I enter using dd-Mon-yyyy Jan Feb Mar, etc. for month. I find using ddmmyyyy can sometimes provide incorrect data if interpreted by those on opposing sides of "the Pond." Europeans tend to use dd/mm/yyyy, while many Americans use mm/dd/yyyy. Jared > (For the avoidance of doubt, I use the ddmmyyyy format.) > > In message <[email protected]>, Jared > Handspicker via <[email protected]> writes: >>Sorry if this comes across as redundant. >> >>When I have quarters to enter, often with UK registration of birth dates, >>I simply put the year, and expand on the quarter in notes. One of the > > Yes, that's what I do. Since it's almost exclusively UK BMD > registrations where I only know the quarter, I put CIR if it's the first > one (when I remember). The single-digit wildcard doesn't work: fourth > quarter is months 10, 11, and 12, but entering __1_yyyy gets translated > to January (and IIRR __0_yyyy doesn't work either). > > The shortform date entry - ddmmyy for (roughly) 20th century dates - > doesn't work with lots of (possibly any?) wildcards: I can't enter > ____60 and get __ ___ 1960, for example. Or ____6_. > [] >>What I have had trouble with, and again, ended up using explanatory >> notes, >>instead, is when I have the right day and month, but the years "range." >>Such as individuals known to be born on 05-Mar-191X (1912, 1914, 1917, >> or >>1919, depending on the record). Listing 1912, and commenting in the >> notes >>that the date could be any of the others, is a relatively safe way of >>being as accurate as possible. > > Have you tried _ instead of X? > [] >>> It seems that BK allows us to be flexible even though the red warning >>> notices come up. It would be good to have a distinction made in >>> Brother's >>> Keeper between Invalid dates and Incomplete dates. Others on this >>> forum >>> have made that point too. That way people would understand better why >>> the >>> warning messages come up. > > I'll add to the plea/request though (-: >>> >>> Andrew Jackett of New Zealand. >>> >>> >>> Andrew Jackett of New Zealand. > [] > -- > J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)[email protected]+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf > > "I hate the guys that criticize the enterprise of other guys whose > enterprise > has made them rise above the guys who criticize!" (W9BRD, former editor of > "How's DX?" column in "QST") > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------ Jared "Jed" Handspicker Usque Saeculis Vigilem

Sorry if this comes across as redundant. When I have quarters to enter, often with UK registration of birth dates, I simply put the year, and expand on the quarter in notes. One of the reasons for doing so stems from a registration in the first quarter where that individual was born on 31-Dec. In most cases, though, a registration in the first quarter can't be tied to a specific month, so the note method works best for me. I've always managed to keep valid dates, doing so. What I have had trouble with, and again, ended up using explanatory notes, instead, is when I have the right day and month, but the years "range." Such as individuals known to be born on 05-Mar-191X (1912, 1914, 1917, or 1919, depending on the record). Listing 1912, and commenting in the notes that the date could be any of the others, is a relatively safe way of being as accurate as possible. When I have a date of death or burial, without the other, one is listed with the day-month-year, the other, usually with just month-year. My question is, is there a flag of any kind to associate with a date that is further explained in the notes that would work with GEDCOM? SPEAKING of GEDCOM, has there been any movement on the new version that has been talked about for years? GEDCOM 6, I believe? Jared > Thanks to all the folk who have responded to my query. Some interesting > responses. > > Otto Jorgensen makes a strong and worthwhile point with regard to how > GEDCOM > and other people will deal with our data. It's most important that the > GEDCOM export understands what we are trying to do and people are in the > know, don't get confused as well. > > The system I have recently been using, putting the number of the quarter > in > brackets and then entering in the year e.g. (3) 1918 seems to be one of > only > a few ways people can express quarters in registration years in different > genealogy software I still use to publish data to the web, so I have > adopted > that one instead of the format I used to enter namely SepQtr1918 which > wouldn't go through. > > It seems that BK allows us to be flexible even though the red warning > notices come up. It would be good to have a distinction made in Brother's > Keeper between Invalid dates and Incomplete dates. Others on this forum > have made that point too. That way people would understand better why the > warning messages come up. > > Andrew Jackett of New Zealand. > > > Andrew Jackett of New Zealand. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Otto Jørgensenvia > Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 12:10 AM > To: Spicer Bob ; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [BK] How do I write month and year only? > > On Tue, 16 Jun 2015 09:04:21 +0100, Spicer Bob via <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>I use the notation ???? if I only know the year, or put ?? for the day if >> I >>know the month. For GRO dates I use 99 for the day and the month number >> for >>the Quarter. for example 99061854 for Q2 1854. This translates to >>99-JUN-1854. It's my own notation, but I know what it means. In the notes >> I >>put the full GRO reference > > if you use 99 and other similar unlegal figurcombin ation you also make > error in gedcom for those who will import your data > > -- > Otto Jørgensen > http://home.online.no/~otjoerge/ > All email is checked by NIS2014 > > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------ Jared "Jed" Handspicker Usque Saeculis Vigilem

Hello John Steed and forum users, I enter my dates into BK7 databases using Type 7 (from the manual) i.e. 15-JUN-1954 with European date input. The entering of most dates is self-explanatory, but I’m not sure how to enter an incomplete date when only month and year are known... Do I enter as ?-JUN-1954 or as __-JUN-1954 or as JUN-1954 ? ...and what about dates to indicate 1st, 2nd, 3rd or 4th quarters of a registration year? ... Do I enter as (2) 1954 or as (2)-1954 to indicate registered in Apr-May-Jun of 1954 ? As each of these options gets a notice marked in red as ‘Invalid date’ I am none the wiser as to which is the preferred method of expression in BK. Does it matter? Thank you for reading this. Please help me someone. Andrew Jackett of New Zealand. [email protected]

On Tue, 16 Jun 2015 09:04:21 +0100, Spicer Bob via <[email protected]> wrote: >I use the notation ???? if I only know the year, or put ?? for the day if I >know the month. For GRO dates I use 99 for the day and the month number for >the Quarter. for example 99061854 for Q2 1854. This translates to >99-JUN-1854. It's my own notation, but I know what it means. In the notes I >put the full GRO reference if you use 99 and other similar unlegal figurcombin ation you also make error in gedcom for those who will import your data -- Otto Jørgensen http://home.online.no/~otjoerge/ All email is checked by NIS2014

Dear Andrew, If I know only June 1900 than I write mostly: ABT 15-JUN-1900 I have no experience with 1st, 2nd quarter. I think that I should use the data range 1st quarter 1900 Event happened sometime between date 1 and date 2 Date 1: 1-JAN-1900 Date 2: 31-MAR-1900 With my best regards, Max van Dam Rechovoth Israel http://www.maxvandam.info/ -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andrew Jackett via Sent: 16 June 2015 05:13 To: [email protected] Subject: [BK] How do I write month and year only? Hello John Steed and forum users, I enter my dates into BK7 databases using Type 7 (from the manual) i.e. 15-JUN-1954 with European date input. The entering of most dates is self-explanatory, but I’m not sure how to enter an incomplete date when only month and year are known... Do I enter as ?-JUN-1954 or as __-JUN-1954 or as JUN-1954 ? ...and what about dates to indicate 1st, 2nd, 3rd or 4th quarters of a registration year? ... Do I enter as (2) 1954 or as (2)-1954 to indicate registered in Apr-May-Jun of 1954 ? As each of these options gets a notice marked in red as ‘Invalid date’ I am none the wiser as to which is the preferred method of expression in BK. Does it matter? Thank you for reading this. Please help me someone. Andrew Jackett of New Zealand. [email protected] Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I use the notation ???? if I only know the year, or put ?? for the day if I know the month. For GRO dates I use 99 for the day and the month number for the Quarter. for example 99061854 for Q2 1854. This translates to 99-JUN-1854. It's my own notation, but I know what it means. In the notes I put the full GRO reference On 16 June 2015 at 07:43, J. P. Gilliver (John) via <[email protected]> wrote: > In message <[email protected]>, Andrew Jackett > via <[email protected]> writes: > >Hello John Steed and forum users, > > >I enter my dates into BK7 databases using Type 7 (from the manual) i.e. > >15-JUN-1954 with European date input. > > >The entering of most dates is self-explanatory, but I’m not sure how > >to enter an incomplete date when only month and year are known... > > >Do I enter as ?-JUN-1954 or as __-JUN-1954 or as JUN-1954 ? > > __061954 (or, for approx. 20th century only, __0654). > > ...and what about dates to indicate 1st, 2nd, 3rd or 4th quarters of a > registration year? ... > > BK has no way of showing quarters (something I've requested before) - so > enter ____1954 and put Q3 in the event note (that's what I do, anyway). > > Do I enter as (2) 1954 or as (2)-1954 to indicate registered in > Apr-May-Jun of 1954 ? > > As each of these options gets a notice marked in red as ‘Invalid date’ > I am none the wiser as to which is the preferred method of expression in > BK. Does it matter? > > I think provided it has done some expansion (e. g. from __0654 to __ JUN > 1954), you can ignore the red warning. > [] > -- > J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)[email protected]+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf > > TV and radio presenters are just like many people, except they tend to wear > make-up all the time. Especially the radio presenters. - Eddie Mair, in > Radio > Times 25-31 August 2012 > > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

In message <[email protected]>, Andrew Jackett via <[email protected]> writes: >Hello John Steed and forum users, >I enter my dates into BK7 databases using Type 7 (from the manual) i.e. >15-JUN-1954 with European date input. >The entering of most dates is self-explanatory, but I’m not sure how >to enter an incomplete date when only month and year are known... >Do I enter as ?-JUN-1954 or as __-JUN-1954 or as JUN-1954 ? __061954 (or, for approx. 20th century only, __0654). ...and what about dates to indicate 1st, 2nd, 3rd or 4th quarters of a registration year? ... BK has no way of showing quarters (something I've requested before) - so enter ____1954 and put Q3 in the event note (that's what I do, anyway). Do I enter as (2) 1954 or as (2)-1954 to indicate registered in Apr-May-Jun of 1954 ? As each of these options gets a notice marked in red as ‘Invalid date’ I am none the wiser as to which is the preferred method of expression in BK. Does it matter? I think provided it has done some expansion (e. g. from __0654 to __ JUN 1954), you can ignore the red warning. [] -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)[email protected]+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf TV and radio presenters are just like many people, except they tend to wear make-up all the time. Especially the radio presenters. - Eddie Mair, in Radio Times 25-31 August 2012

In message <[email protected]>, Jim Ball via <[email protected]> writes: >For consideration: Proof of Lineage/Proof of Parentage Report. Such a >report might be helpful for use for lineage societies such as DAR, SAR, >Williamsburg Society, etc. The basics already exist with the >Relationship report. The only thing needed would be the addition of >source for parentage and a graphic representation. >Just thinkin' Just thinkin', though: such proof-requirement might bring back unfortunate memories for some. Though that's probably not a reason not to provide it, I guess! >Jim --- (If you put "-- " [note the space] on a line _before_ your signature, some softwares will then recognise that it _is_ a signature.] >Please visit The Ball Family of Carter's Run >http://www.ballsplace.com > Remember - Use the Archives at >http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)[email protected]+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf ... "from a person I admire, respect, and deeply love." "Who was that then?" "Me." (Zaphod Beeblebrox in the Link episode.)

In message <[email protected]>, Carole Edwards Caruso via <[email protected]> writes: >Please - is there a list of ALL the function keys available for use with >BK7? > >They are neither in the HELP nor the manual. [] I think some of them are context-sensitive, i. e. only work in some screens - and some vary by screen, or used to: "Close" used to be alt-O in some places, and (IIRR) alt-S in others, but I can't find that now, so maybe that's not the case in version 7. If you just mean the F keys - in the Edit screen (they do nothing in the main screen): F1 - help (as in most Windows prog.s) F2 - Compute birth date* F3 - Find Person* F4 - add spouse or partner F5 - add child F6 - go to sources screen F7 - Family View* F8 - list of matching previously-entered locations (only in location) F9 - F10 - refresh view (I think!) F11 - add sibling F12 - Family Edit* Shift+F6 - add (more) parents Shift+F8 - next person (same as clicking on ">") (Ctrl-B is back "<") Shift+F11 - source for Name Shift+F11 - general source for family Ctrl+F1 - (go to) first person (lowest BK number) Ctrl+F5 - New individual Ctrl+F9 - go to child Ctrl+F12 - (go to) last person (highest BK number) Shift+Ctrl+F11 - add flag (This may not be a complete list.) The shortcut keys for anything that has one - shift or Ctrl plus letters, as well as F keys - are shown in the menus. * I'm *so* glad BK hasn't given in to the obsession with capital letters that most software writers succumb to: "Compute birth date", not "Compute Birth Date"! [But then I pressed F3, F7, F12 ... )-:] -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)[email protected]+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf ... "from a person I admire, respect, and deeply love." "Who was that then?" "Me." (Zaphod Beeblebrox in the Link episode.)