In message <000a01d5cbe8$f519af10$df4d0d30$@yahoo.com>, Jim Dell2 via BK <bk@rootsweb.com> writes: >Please use the new BK group >https://groups.io/g/BrothersKeeperGenealogy I am doing; see the sent date on the below. It would appear that the death throes of rootsweb include the throwing up of old posts )-:. [This post _not_ made on the new list (not a group).] > >Jim > >-----Original Message----- >From: J. P. Gilliver (John) <G6JPG@255soft.uk> >Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2019 6:30 AM >To: bk@rootsweb.com >Subject: [BK] Re: Ctrl Keys > >In message <005201d50e16$fd68c970$f83a5c50$@gmail.com>, >tonyandness@gmail.com writes: >>Hi, >> >> The "Hot keys" / Ctrl Keys BK file gets deleted by Ccleaner, is there >>any way I can stop this, > >Does Ccleaner have an "exceptions" list you can add files - or filetypes >(extensions) to? Or a list of extensions it deletes, that you can edit to >remove the offending one? Or a list of folders it ignores, that you can add >to? > >Does Ccleaner do all discs (or partitions), or can you tell it to do C: >only? If you can, partition your disc (email me if you're wary of doing that >and you're on XP or 7, and I'll talk you through it), and get BK to store >its files on D:. [IMO, that's something anyone should do anyway - a small C: >partition for Windows and software, and D: for all data. It also makes it >quicker to image C: (I use Macrium), so you're more likely to do it more >often (though obviously you should back up D: as well, but that then doesn't >need imaging, you can just sync it (I use synctoy).] > >> or save a copy to reinstate if it gets deleted - I > >When you quit BK, it prompts you to backup: isn't the file you are talking >about one of the ones it backs up anyway? (You can configure where it puts >the backup - you don't have to do so every time, it >remembers.) I would have thought it would be one of those saved - it >certainly saves a lot of files; the list exceeded the window allocated to >list them as it saves a long time ago. (Any chance of either this window >being enlarged to show them all, or scrolling, so we could check its >progress rather than just waiting - and hoping - for the OK button to >appear?) > >>think Dell's maintenance program also deletes the file - and with my >>Dell laptop my "worse laptop ever" it gets run a lot!! I'm not sure >>about the Dell maintenance because even that on the Dell laptop has >>stopped working >> >Sounds like time to have a thorough cleanup of what's running (I assume you >need to run this "maintenance program" because the machine has crashed), or >a move to another machine. >> >> >>Thanks >> >>Anthony Williams. >> >HTH >[] -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Hadrian's Wall has never been a border between Scotland and England. It lies entirely within England but, when it was built in AD 122 by the Romans as a defence against the raiding Picts, the future English were still in Germany and the Scottish were still in Ireland. - Michael Cullen, Skye, in RT 2014/12/6-12

In message <7e3a963d886687f8e946163f58db2f8b@wi-net.com>, dgolson <dgolson@wi-net.com> writes: >subscribe Bk-request@rootsweb.com [] You might want to subscribe to the new mailing list; I gather the rootsweb one (and all others run by rootsweb) will cease to operate soon. I'm not sure how I subscribed to the new one - there might be something at https://groups.io/g/BrothersKeeperGenealogy/ that will explain it. It certainly has _something_ to do with groups.io . -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Hadrian's Wall has never been a border between Scotland and England. It lies entirely within England but, when it was built in AD 122 by the Romans as a defence against the raiding Picts, the future English were still in Germany and the Scottish were still in Ireland. - Michael Cullen, Skye, in RT 2014/12/6-12

In message <4861.1579172622308855460@groups.io>, Jim Thomson <genealogy@whitnoo.com> writes: >It's easier than that Barry > >When you open a text window to start a new topic, or you are replying >to someone else, in the "Formats" bar above the text box there is a >small chain link icon that does the job.  First, just type in the plain >language description of the link e.g. "Link to Scotland's People >website" and then type a few more letters (just to be able to provide a >clean break to the link)  and then go back to the bit of text you want >to be the link, highlight it by using the shift key and moving the >cursor along the text, click on that small link icon and you'll get a >details box into which you can put the web address of the target site.  >That will give you this type of link to Scotland's People website in a >(for me) light blue colour. >Very easy and doesn't need any HTML skills. [] I think the three of us are talking at cross purposes. You appear to be talking about the insertion of links into posts to the mailing list. As such, you also seem to be using a given interface when making your posts (is it a web interface, i. e. you're doing it via your browser?); certainly, when I'm typing a post as I am now, there's no "small chain link icon"; I'm using the software I've been using for decades for mail, news, and newsgroups (Turnpike - development stopped 2007), and that certainly doesn't have anything like that. What I and Barry (I think) are talking about is the ability to have clickable links appear in notes (event or person) in BK, which currently doesn't exist; it would need JS to implement some extra code, either to automatically recognise URLs (e. g. because they start http or www, or contain two or more dots not followed by spaces) - which IMO would be the preferable way - or the addition of a button or similar to the notes editor. John -- J. P. Gilliver

In message <000201d5cbef$caae71f0$600b55d0$@pycroft.co.nz>, Barry P. <barry@pycroft.co.nz> writes: >John G. > Here is what I have used in my notes. > ><HR> <IMG SRC="e:/bk5/FAMLYPCX/Py1be-2.jpg" ALT="Barry PYCROFT"> Here is >Barry in a dressed-up condition during early 1990s age about 45. <BR> <HR> ><HR> ><H1><A HREF="http://www.pycroft.co.nz/index.html">PYCROFT Genealogy Home >Pages</A> is here.</H1> ><HR> ><H2><A HREF="https://www.bkwin.org/version7.htm">The Bro Keep Genealogy Home >Pages</A> is here.</H2> ><HR> > > >This is formal HTML and you can copy those particular lines to notepad, save >it as "test.html" and straight way you have a linked file, linked! >This will work in most active word editors, RTF, MS-Word, MS-XL, >MS-OneNote, azzCardfile, and when saved as PDF, etc. (Except of course I won't have the file e:/bk5/FAMLYPCX/Py1be-2.jpg .) > >In this case I have a picture of myself (now not to be found!! HiHi.) But >if you were to put a path to an image of your choice, voila!! Also other >web pages, PDF media files, all sorts!! > True, I could. It's a bit of a faff though: I was just saying it'd be nice if BK's note editor could _automatically_ recognise URLs, and make them clickable. Various other pieces of software do this, without needing the surrounding standard HTML. (I think - though I haven't tried it - that, even if I copied your code into a BK note [person _or_ event], the links still wouldn't be clickable _there_.) > > Barry P. >P.S. See that ANCESTRY.com have now permitted (perhaps encouraged - for the >purpose of expediting the passing of their responsibilities?) the passage >of SPAM and malware on their ROOTSWEB feature. Another case of not letting >good service get in the way of an easy dollar. Yes, I got about a dozen - including some of the "Nigerian" ("I have some money I need your help in exporting") variety I haven't seen for ages! > >-----Original Message----- >From: J. P. Gilliver (John) [mailto:G6JPG@255soft.uk] >Sent: Tuesday, 11 June 2019 3:12 AM >To: bk@rootsweb.com >Subject: [BK] Clickable links > >I saw the post asking for "Links to Evernote", and it made me wonder - how >difficult would it be to make links to URLs (highlighted in some way >- usually blue and underlined, and) clickable, wherever they occur, such as >in person or event notes, or some of the source-page boxes? > >I don't know how other software detects URLs - I presume any of {starts with >http}, {starts with www.}, or {has two or more dots in succession that >aren't followed by a space}. >-- >J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf > >I admire you British: when things get tough, you reach for humour. Not >firearms. - Sigourney (Susan) Weaver, RT 2017/11/4-10 > >_______________________________________________ > Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search >_______________________________________________ >Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe >https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/bk@rootsweb.com >Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is >funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- >Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. > >View/Reply Online (#44): https://groups.io/g/BrothersKeeperGenealogy/message/44 >Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/69726686/4144029 >Group Owner: BrothersKeeperGenealogy+owner@groups.io >Unsubscribe: >https://groups.io/g/BrothersKeeperGenealogy/leave/7491704/1973985096/xyzzy >[G6JPG@255soft.uk] >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Radio 4 is the civilising influence in this country ... I think it is the most important institution in this country. - John Humphrys, Radio Times 7-13/06/2003

(New mailing list added.) In message <CA+oGiOjgkLB7RMBW66QdRBs_GZ8=f1hF5ZBv1Rsj6q-VYFZSCw@mail.gmail.com>, Carole E. Caruso <huzabah1932@gmail.com> writes: >Is there still a free version of BK? If so, how do I download it? I >can't find it anywhere. [] Not a free version, a trial version; it's the same download as the full version, just if you don't enter the relevant code you get the trial version, which misses some facilities (such as the "rings" ancestor chart) and has some limits on things like number of people. AFAIR, it still doesn't expire, unlike most softwares - you should still pay up after evaluating it though (-: -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Radio 4 is the civilising influence in this country ... I think it is the most important institution in this country. - John Humphrys, Radio Times 7-13/06/2003

(New mailing list added.) In message <CA+oGiOgAdRPd0ubGvmKN9TPuBXVLc3MxaGLd6QAqQ3nTJeGtTQ@mail.gmail.com>, Carole E. Caruso <huzabah1932@gmail.com> writes: >Long ago a friend recorded his genealogy using PAF 2.31 in DOS, which >he is still using. Now he wants to update to Windows 10 and use BK. My >understanding is that you can create a GEDCOM file in PAF 2.31. (Is >this true?) My question is can this GEDCOM file then be imported into >BK 7 ? [] BK (all versions, I think) can import GeDCom files. I've no idea whether PAF can create them - though GeDCom has been the common denominator for genealogy software for decades. I believe one of the very early genealogy softwares used GeDCom as its native format, and I think that might have been PAF. The example file in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GEDCOM shows "SOUR PAF", suggesting PAF can at least generate them. Yes, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GEDCOM#Release_history specifically mentions PAF 2.31. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_Ancestral_File has plenty - Wikipedia is very useful for this sort of question! (Though the last-mentioned doesn't make clear whether PAF used GeDCom natively, or just could produce it: "share files with others in GEDCOM format". It also says PAF 2.31 was written for Mac, though DOS as well.) -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Radio 4 is the civilising influence in this country ... I think it is the most important institution in this country. - John Humphrys, Radio Times 7-13/06/2003

Figured it out...how to save the member email list. so now all those that are NOT on the NEW Brother's Keeper Genealogy Group should've received an email asking them to join the NEW Group. still trying to figure out how to get the archive files over to the NEW Group.... will keep ya'll posted...thanks, Terry Terry Garnett, ACT National President 12620 Lake Ridge Drive Lake Ridge, Virginia 22192 ☎(703) 494-4845 Fax – (703) 494-0961 Email – tgarnett@actnat.com<mailto:tgarnett@actnat.com> "Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens." (John Ronald Reuel Tolkien) [cid:87b8191b-9fb7-4dc6-880c-72c2dde87d56] [cid:d62d36c5-53ad-4354-9532-d0aed65abd6b] ________________________________ From: BrothersKeeperGenealogy@groups.io <BrothersKeeperGenealogy@groups.io> on behalf of Terry Garnett via Groups.Io <tgarnett=actnat.com@groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 10:32 PM To: BrothersKeeperGenealogy@groups.io <BrothersKeeperGenealogy@groups.io> Subject: Re: [BrothersKeeperGenealogy] Invite = RootsWeb OLD BK Group Member's List == To NEW Brother's Keeper Genealogy Group Yepper’s I’m still looking how to save them and so far nothing…so another email to them to see if they will assist…thanks, Terry Terry Garnett, ACT National President 12620 Lake Ridge Drive Lake Ridge, Virginia 22192 ☎ (703) 494-4845 Fax – (703) 494-0961 Email – tgarnett@actnat.com<mailto:tgarnett@actnat.com> www.ACTnat.com<http://www.actnat.com/> / www.chooseACT.com<http://www.chooseact.com/> "Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens." (John Ronald Reuel Tolkien) [ACT Eyeball Logo Small.jpg] [cid:image004.png@01D07B91.B778B540] From: BrothersKeeperGenealogy@groups.io On Behalf Of Lynn Detwiler Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 9:46 PM To: BrothersKeeperGenealogy@groups.io Subject: Re: [BrothersKeeperGenealogy] Invite = RootsWeb OLD BK Group Member's List == To NEW Brother's Keeper Genealogy Group According to the notice on the archives page, " Administrators may save the emails in their list prior to March 2nd." So now that you have been granted administrator rights there should be a way to download the messages somewhere in the administrator tools. Maybe. If they got it right, which they don't seem to do consistently. _._,_._,_ ________________________________ Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#46)<https://groups.io/g/BrothersKeeperGenealogy/message/46> | Reply To Group<mailto:BrothersKeeperGenealogy@groups.io?subject=Re:%20Re%3A%20%5BBrothersKeeperGenealogy%5D%20Invite%20%3D%20RootsWeb%20OLD%20BK%20Group%20Member%27s%20List%20%3D%3D%20To%20NEW%20Brother%27s%20Keeper%20Genealogy%20Group> | Reply To Sender<mailto:tgarnett@actnat.com?subject=Private:%20Re:%20Re%3A%20%5BBrothersKeeperGenealogy%5D%20Invite%20%3D%20RootsWeb%20OLD%20BK%20Group%20Member%27s%20List%20%3D%3D%20To%20NEW%20Brother%27s%20Keeper%20Genealogy%20Group> | Mute This Topic<https://groups.io/mt/69726185/4149371> | New Topic<https://groups.io/g/BrothersKeeperGenealogy/post> Your Subscription<https://groups.io/g/BrothersKeeperGenealogy/editsub/4149371> | Contact Group Owner<mailto:BrothersKeeperGenealogy+owner@groups.io> | Unsubscribe<https://groups.io/g/BrothersKeeperGenealogy/leave/7500790/1233174546/xyzzy> [doodle_hill@hotmail.com] _._,_._,_

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Hi Please make a Compressed Backup using File, Backup Data Files, Compress to .... Then send me just the BK7DATA.ZIP file John Steed ________________________________ From: Heiner Vogel <heiner.vogel@t-online.de> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 9:24 PM To: bk@rootsweb.com <bk@rootsweb.com> Subject: [BK] BKLocate.DT7 Using BK since the DOS-days, currently licensed version 7.4.3 on Windows 10 machine. My problem is a damaged file BKLocate.DT7. How can I get it repaired? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance! Best regards Heiner Dipl. Ing. Heiner Vogel Krähornsberg 53 21339 Lüneburg Auf diesem Rechner läuft Norton Antivirus in neuester Version

To Glennis Austin Sometimes if the power goes off when BK is writing to the disk, there will be a lot of "junk" or "garbage" characters added to the end of the file. That would make the number of marriages appear to be larger. I can fix that problem if you will make a Compressed Backup and send me a Private email with BK7DATA.ZIP John Steed ________________________________ From: J. P. Gilliver (John) <G6JPG@255soft.uk> Sent: Monday, August 5, 2019 6:56 PM To: bk@rootsweb.com <bk@rootsweb.com> Subject: [BK] Re: Error Msg -- Invalid Person Number in bReadCode. 0 In message <2ec2837f-b7a2-ef31-9802-f21fb52b25b4@gmail.com>, Glennis Austin <glennis.austin@gmail.com> writes: >Hi Everyone > >Having been a BK registered user since DOS days I am mystified by the >error which has started appearing during Quality Check. According to >info on the home screen there are 15593 Names and 15274 Families. Some >time ago I noted the number of Families had dramatically increased >(e.g. an old BK6 data file (April 2016) had 14321 Names and 5236 >Families, a more realistic number of Families) but I thought perhaps >this was something to do with a change to the program. However, it >seems I may have acquired several thousand families! > >Quality Check gave no problems even with the increase to 15274 >Families. But yesterday, after making additions to death dates using a >birth search XXXX==XXXX (which probably had nothing to do with it), the >process ran as usual until Marriage 5553 when the error message >appeared "Invalid Person Number in bReadCode. 0". Clicking OK gives >the following > >Reading marriage file >Marriage number XXXX >Regarding the marriage between 0 & 0 >Marriage points to invalid number for husband 0 >Do you want to remove the invalid link? >Yes No Stop > >By selecting Yes the messages appear again this time referring to the wife. >After selecting Yes for her the next marriage number comes up with the >same messages. >No - gives the same sequence of messages, it is then necessary to >either proceed to remove the invalid link or select Stop. >Stop - cancels the process. > >I started removing invalid links thinking it was just a small glitch >but have reached Marriage number 5591 with no end in sight. A long way >to go if there are the suspected up to an extra 10,000 families. >Re-indexing has not changed anything. > >Using Windows 10 (and relevant updates) since 2016 and various versions >of BK 7 since 2017, now BK 7.4.3. > >Any ideas would be appreciated. > >Many thanks >Kind regards >Glennis [] Looking at what you've described, it looks like: 1. The number of marriages at which is starts looks like it might be what you'd expect, given your database has grown a bit since you last had such a figure. 2. It sounds from your description as if selecting Yes repeatedly would "work" (for what I'm about to suggest). Is the Y of Yes underlined, so that pressing alt-Y would work? If not, does Y on its own work? If either of those is true: MAKE A BACKUP (obviously), in case it doesn't work. Then find some way of wedging the necessary keys (if it's a conventional keyboard, I find BIC pen-tops useful; if a laptop, you'll need to find suitable small weights) so that they repeat, and let it work through the remaining 10k. (You don't say if it has a think each time; if it does, this may be an overnight job.) Probably pull the wedges out just before it ends in case there's anything you need to see at the end. Hopefully this might return you to 15k people, 5k marriages. Obviously, this is just my guess: JS will be along with something more sensible soon! -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Wisdom is the ability to cope. - the late (AB of C) Michael Ramsey, quoted by Stephen Fry (RT 24-30 August 2013) _______________________________________________ Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/bk@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi List In Digests number 49+ received today I noted that all the SPAM and most of the messages are from mid-2019 and appear in BK Rootsweb archives. My apologies to J.P. Gilliver (John).  In this batch of "SPAM digests no. 53" is a query I made on 5 Aug 2019 regarding  Error Msg -- Invalid Person Number in bReadCode.  0   to which John very kindly replied the same day.  However it would seem I never received a Digest with his response until today.  So a belated thank you John and yes John Steed did come to my rescue and was able to fix my database for me. Cheers Glennis > Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 16:01:26 -0500 > From: Charles Dobie <cdobie@superaje.com <mailto:cdobie@superaje.com>> > Subject: [BK] S * P * A * M in this list > To: BK@rootsweb.com <mailto:BK@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <2xj07vj295-1@m0143794.ppops.net > <mailto:2xj07vj295-1@m0143794.ppops.net>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > It looks like Ancestry has stopped protecting this list from spam and > other malicious messages. I guess it's time for everyone to move to > either the Facebook or groups.io <http://groups.io> BK groups. Or both > of them.

We have even for 8 years had a Scandinavian FB group --- hilsen/regards Otto -#- Den 15.01.2020 23:30, skrev Stephen Pert: > I did not know about the BK Facebook groups. I just sent a Join request to > one and clicked Like on the other. > > --Steve Pert > > On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 3:02 PM Charles Dobie <cdobie@superaje.com> wrote: > >> It looks like Ancestry has stopped protecting this list from spam and >> other malicious messages. I guess it's time for everyone to move to >> either the Facebook or groups.io BK groups. Or both of them. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Remember - Use the Archives at >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/bk@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community > > _______________________________________________ > Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/bk@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

I did not know about the BK Facebook groups. I just sent a Join request to one and clicked Like on the other. --Steve Pert On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 3:02 PM Charles Dobie <cdobie@superaje.com> wrote: > It looks like Ancestry has stopped protecting this list from spam and > other malicious messages. I guess it's time for everyone to move to > either the Facebook or groups.io BK groups. Or both of them. > > _______________________________________________ > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/bk@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

John G. Here is what I have used in my notes. <HR> <IMG SRC="e:/bk5/FAMLYPCX/Py1be-2.jpg" ALT="Barry PYCROFT"> Here is Barry in a dressed-up condition during early 1990s age about 45. <BR> <HR> <HR> <H1><A HREF="http://www.pycroft.co.nz/index.html">PYCROFT Genealogy Home Pages</A> is here.</H1> <HR> <H2><A HREF="https://www.bkwin.org/version7.htm">The Bro Keep Genealogy Home Pages</A> is here.</H2> <HR> This is formal HTML and you can copy those particular lines to notepad, save it as "test.html" and straight way you have a linked file, linked! This will work in most active word editors, RTF, MS-Word, MS-XL, MS-OneNote, azzCardfile, and when saved as PDF, etc. In this case I have a picture of myself (now not to be found!! HiHi.) But if you were to put a path to an image of your choice, voila!! Also other web pages, PDF media files, all sorts!! Barry P. P.S. See that ANCESTRY.com have now permitted (perhaps encouraged - for the purpose of expediting the passing of their responsibilities?) the passage of SPAM and malware on their ROOTSWEB feature. Another case of not letting good service get in the way of an easy dollar. -----Original Message----- From: J. P. Gilliver (John) [mailto:G6JPG@255soft.uk] Sent: Tuesday, 11 June 2019 3:12 AM To: bk@rootsweb.com Subject: [BK] Clickable links I saw the post asking for "Links to Evernote", and it made me wonder - how difficult would it be to make links to URLs (highlighted in some way - usually blue and underlined, and) clickable, wherever they occur, such as in person or event notes, or some of the source-page boxes? I don't know how other software detects URLs - I presume any of {starts with http}, {starts with www.}, or {has two or more dots in succession that aren't followed by a space}. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf I admire you British: when things get tough, you reach for humour. Not firearms. - Sigourney (Susan) Weaver, RT 2017/11/4-10 _______________________________________________ Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/bk@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Thanks Jim... I finally heard from RootsWeb today and they gave me access to the admin side of our OLD BK list. I've sent email invites out to the member's of the OLD BK list asking them to join, just did that a few minutes ago, around 447 folks on the OLD list. Next is figuring out how to grab the archives too. Will Keep ya'll posted...thanks, Terry Terry Garnett, ACT National President 12620 Lake Ridge Drive Lake Ridge, Virginia 22192 ☎(703) 494-4845 Fax – (703) 494-0961 Email – tgarnett@actnat.com<mailto:tgarnett@actnat.com> "Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens." (John Ronald Reuel Tolkien) [cid:8ce1b839-b37f-4c04-be77-58f20e7fceb5] [cid:422a4909-8580-497a-a23c-6d7d3889f5a5] ________________________________ From: Jim Dell2 via BK <bk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 4:15 PM To: bk@rootsweb.com <bk@rootsweb.com> Cc: Jim Dell2 <dellji@yahoo.com> Subject: [BK] Re: Ctrl Keys Please use the new BK group https://groups.io/g/BrothersKeeperGenealogy Jim -----Original Message----- From: J. P. Gilliver (John) <G6JPG@255soft.uk> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2019 6:30 AM To: bk@rootsweb.com Subject: [BK] Re: Ctrl Keys In message <005201d50e16$fd68c970$f83a5c50$@gmail.com>, tonyandness@gmail.com writes: >Hi, > > The "Hot keys" / Ctrl Keys BK file gets deleted by Ccleaner, is there >any way I can stop this, Does Ccleaner have an "exceptions" list you can add files - or filetypes (extensions) to? Or a list of extensions it deletes, that you can edit to remove the offending one? Or a list of folders it ignores, that you can add to? Does Ccleaner do all discs (or partitions), or can you tell it to do C: only? If you can, partition your disc (email me if you're wary of doing that and you're on XP or 7, and I'll talk you through it), and get BK to store its files on D:. [IMO, that's something anyone should do anyway - a small C: partition for Windows and software, and D: for all data. It also makes it quicker to image C: (I use Macrium), so you're more likely to do it more often (though obviously you should back up D: as well, but that then doesn't need imaging, you can just sync it (I use synctoy).] > or save a copy to reinstate if it gets deleted - I When you quit BK, it prompts you to backup: isn't the file you are talking about one of the ones it backs up anyway? (You can configure where it puts the backup - you don't have to do so every time, it remembers.) I would have thought it would be one of those saved - it certainly saves a lot of files; the list exceeded the window allocated to list them as it saves a long time ago. (Any chance of either this window being enlarged to show them all, or scrolling, so we could check its progress rather than just waiting - and hoping - for the OK button to appear?) >think Dell's maintenance program also deletes the file - and with my >Dell laptop my "worse laptop ever" it gets run a lot!! I'm not sure >about the Dell maintenance because even that on the Dell laptop has >stopped working > Sounds like time to have a thorough cleanup of what's running (I assume you need to run this "maintenance program" because the machine has crashed), or a move to another machine. > > >Thanks > >Anthony Williams. > HTH [] -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Society has the right to punish wrongdoing; it doesn't have the right to make punishment a form of entertainment. This is where things have gone wrong: humiliating other people has become both a blood sport and a narcotic. - Joe Queenan, RT 2015/6/27-7/3 _______________________________________________ Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/bk@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/bk@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

This has to be a fine observation, well expressed, John. I also find it annoying that when 'seeking details of a person with multiple spouses,, that upon returning to the key person, spouse #1 is always returned, I would like to see either 'Current spouse' or 'Current relationship' returned when _going back_. I have a case of a woman with 3 marriages, and children by each husband, her last marriage was to a man who was previously marries and had 2 children. In the outcome, this couple brought 5 children to their marriage then produced an ancestor. My Grandfather then had three 'Half-brothers and two 'Half-sisters'. Showing these in a live editing mode will not be easy. My observation is that as a lineage-linked relationship, the REPORTS cannot show non-lineage relationships. Navigation and display in a database program can be arranged. A screen-shot or other image showing the compound family could be an option. Barry P. --==-- -----Original Message----- From: J. P. Gilliver (John) [mailto:G6JPG@soft255.demon.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, 16 January 2020 5:41 AM To: bk@rootsweb.com; BrothersKeeperGenealogy@groups.io Subject: [BK] children/events of other spouses - and spouse memory (or lack of) [I just found this in my drafts folder, so I must have written it ages ago, and for some reason it didn't go; I know I've written something similar recently. Adding new mailing list.] I go to the edit page a person (let's say man) with more than one spouse. It shows the events (marriage, family residence places/dates) for Spouse 1, or the children by that spouse. I go to the drop-down list of spouses, and select other than Spouse 1. The events/children relating to Spouse 1 disappear, and those relating to Spouse x appear. I click the Spouse x button, to view/edit something specific to that person. I come back (the "<" button) to the man. It reverts to Spouse 1! Could the >/< "memory" perhaps be amended to remember which Spouse I was looking at/with? Also: it would be nice if, in the children tab, all the children of the person whose name is in Name could be shown - OK, with the ones by other than the currently-shown spouse greyed, or something similar. Similarly for events. (I've not infrequently found I've entered a child or event under the wrong spouse, because I saw they were missing, and didn't realise they were there but not shown because a different spouse was selected. I can't be alone in this!) -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf "Don't worry about people stealing your ideas. If your ideas are any good, you'll have to ram them down people's throats." - Howard Aiken _______________________________________________ Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/bk@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Please use the new BK group https://groups.io/g/BrothersKeeperGenealogy Jim -----Original Message----- From: J. P. Gilliver (John) <G6JPG@255soft.uk> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2019 6:30 AM To: bk@rootsweb.com Subject: [BK] Re: Ctrl Keys In message <005201d50e16$fd68c970$f83a5c50$@gmail.com>, tonyandness@gmail.com writes: >Hi, > > The "Hot keys" / Ctrl Keys BK file gets deleted by Ccleaner, is there >any way I can stop this, Does Ccleaner have an "exceptions" list you can add files - or filetypes (extensions) to? Or a list of extensions it deletes, that you can edit to remove the offending one? Or a list of folders it ignores, that you can add to? Does Ccleaner do all discs (or partitions), or can you tell it to do C: only? If you can, partition your disc (email me if you're wary of doing that and you're on XP or 7, and I'll talk you through it), and get BK to store its files on D:. [IMO, that's something anyone should do anyway - a small C: partition for Windows and software, and D: for all data. It also makes it quicker to image C: (I use Macrium), so you're more likely to do it more often (though obviously you should back up D: as well, but that then doesn't need imaging, you can just sync it (I use synctoy).] > or save a copy to reinstate if it gets deleted - I When you quit BK, it prompts you to backup: isn't the file you are talking about one of the ones it backs up anyway? (You can configure where it puts the backup - you don't have to do so every time, it remembers.) I would have thought it would be one of those saved - it certainly saves a lot of files; the list exceeded the window allocated to list them as it saves a long time ago. (Any chance of either this window being enlarged to show them all, or scrolling, so we could check its progress rather than just waiting - and hoping - for the OK button to appear?) >think Dell's maintenance program also deletes the file - and with my >Dell laptop my "worse laptop ever" it gets run a lot!! I'm not sure >about the Dell maintenance because even that on the Dell laptop has >stopped working > Sounds like time to have a thorough cleanup of what's running (I assume you need to run this "maintenance program" because the machine has crashed), or a move to another machine. > > >Thanks > >Anthony Williams. > HTH [] -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Society has the right to punish wrongdoing; it doesn't have the right to make punishment a form of entertainment. This is where things have gone wrong: humiliating other people has become both a blood sport and a narcotic. - Joe Queenan, RT 2015/6/27-7/3 _______________________________________________ Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/bk@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

It looks like Ancestry has stopped protecting this list from spam and other malicious messages. I guess it's time for everyone to move to either the Facebook or groups.io BK groups. Or both of them.

[I just found this in my drafts folder, so I must have written it ages ago, and for some reason it didn't go; I know I've written something similar recently. Adding new mailing list.] I go to the edit page a person (let's say man) with more than one spouse. It shows the events (marriage, family residence places/dates) for Spouse 1, or the children by that spouse. I go to the drop-down list of spouses, and select other than Spouse 1. The events/children relating to Spouse 1 disappear, and those relating to Spouse x appear. I click the Spouse x button, to view/edit something specific to that person. I come back (the "<" button) to the man. It reverts to Spouse 1! Could the >/< "memory" perhaps be amended to remember which Spouse I was looking at/with? Also: it would be nice if, in the children tab, all the children of the person whose name is in Name could be shown - OK, with the ones by other than the currently-shown spouse greyed, or something similar. Similarly for events. (I've not infrequently found I've entered a child or event under the wrong spouse, because I saw they were missing, and didn't realise they were there but not shown because a different spouse was selected. I can't be alone in this!) -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf "Don't worry about people stealing your ideas. If your ideas are any good, you'll have to ram them down people's throats." - Howard Aiken

All, Don't forget to start using the NEW Brother's Keeper Genealogy Groups located at the below link, so we will have the most current discussions over there since RootsWeb is is going away...FYI...thanks https://groups.io/g/BrothersKeeperGenealogy?fbclid=IwAR3q6ChYJ1WHrrkqs3mdotCk3Q8Avt2XpZ1xCzArtBEJtVc8-ToelB55MxA [https://groups.io/img/logofull.png]<https://groups.io/g/BrothersKeeperGenealogy?fbclid=IwAR3q6ChYJ1WHrrkqs3mdotCk3Q8Avt2XpZ1xCzArtBEJtVc8-ToelB55MxA> BrothersKeeperGenealogy groups.io Group<https://groups.io/g/BrothersKeeperGenealogy?fbclid=IwAR3q6ChYJ1WHrrkqs3mdotCk3Q8Avt2XpZ1xCzArtBEJtVc8-ToelB55MxA> groups.io Terry Garnett, ACT National President 12620 Lake Ridge Drive Lake Ridge, Virginia 22192 ☎(703) 494-4845 Fax – (703) 494-0961 Email – tgarnett@actnat.com<mailto:tgarnett@actnat.com> "Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens." (John Ronald Reuel Tolkien) [cid:ed38fe45-aabe-4d64-add3-54fb0e2df5fe] [cid:8e45c447-88d2-4588-b80f-94327adbbad9] ________________________________ From: jedh@jedh.com <jedh@jedh.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 7:04 PM To: bk@rootsweb.com <bk@rootsweb.com> Cc: Otto Jørgensen <otjoerge@online.no> Subject: [BK] Re: A suggestion regarding spouse order. Otto, Say I have a direct ancestor who married three times. His 2nd wife is my direct ancestor, as his first wife had no children. His 2nd wife, to me, might be more important, therefore a possible choice to be the first one listed. Again, I always stick with chronological order, but I have seen many who list them in order of importance to their own, personal history. Jared On 2020-01-14 05:59, Otto Jørgensen wrote: > In a marrikage we can have several children and both partners can > between (most male) have children outside marriage and that can bee > child that becomes part of the Family. > > So you can no say that thar thildren is more important than the other. > > --- > hilsen/regards > Otto > -#- > > Den 14.01.2020 11:50, skrev jedh@jedh.com: > >> Given the number of marriages in my various databases, the first >> marriage is usually the "most productive." However, it may not be the >> most important to you. There is no REQUIREMENT that the first >> marriage, chronologically, be listed first (at least on BK, as we have >> the manual control). In other software, it automatically defaults by >> chronology. I'm not sure if GEDCOM goes with how they are listed, or >> if it might sort them chronologically. At times, there may not be >> sufficient information to KNOW the correct order. >> >> As a side note, it might be an interesting exercise to see of John >> could provide a "sort chronologically" option. This, of course, would >> only work if all the marriage dates are provided, at least with >> "about" dates, if nothing more. >> >> Jared >> >> On 2020-01-14 04:59, Ray Schmidt wrote: I also agree. I find things >> make much more sense if they are all in >> chronological order. >> >> Ray Schmidt >> Emerald, Victoria, Australia >> >> On 14/01/2020 8:55 pm, Malcolm Webb via BK wrote: Yes I agree. For >> me, the first spouse is usually the most important. And for those >> where the second spouse needs to be the primary one it can be changed >> manually. >> >> Malcolm Webb >> mfwebb2005@btinternet.com >> (Sent from my Kindle HD10) >> >> On 14 January 2020, at 08:36, Robert Newman <robertjnewman@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> I totally disagree, usually the first spouse is of the most interest I >> find. >> >> On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 at 08:15, David Youse <dhyouse@comcast.net> wrote: >> >> I think it would be beneficial if the listing of multiple spouses on >> the >> Edit screen defaulted to the most recent rather than the first. After >> all, >> in most cases the last spouse is the one of greatest interest. I know >> the >> order can be changed manually but I've had to change the Primary >> Spouse of >> over twenty or so from the 1st to the 2nd, or 3rd. Just a suggestion >> to >> make life a little easier. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Remember - Use the Archives at >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/bk@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal >> RootsWeb >> community > > _______________________________________________ > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/bk@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community > _______________________________________________ > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/bk@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > _______________________________________________ > Remember - Use the Archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/bk@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Remember - Use the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/bk@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community