This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/XKE.2ACIB/130.1 Message Board Post: Hi Roger, I have two jacob bitners. one is john jacob bitner born a1771 and married Elizabeth Hatler in 1790 in Tennessee. I am not sure who his father is but it is either Matthias Bittner or William Bitner Sr. They both had a John Jacob. The other Jacob I have is Mathias Bittner's son who probably is my 5 th great grandfather and father of my 4th great grandfather John Jacob above. Jacob was born in 1774 in lancaster co cocalico twp pa. i have more info if this is your jacob. jim