John, I think I need to get a map and study it to see if these places are close together Tranmere Chester, Great Mollington, example if someone lived in Tranmere would they go to Birkenhead to have a photo taken ? thank you Very much for your help Anita ----- Original Message ----- From: John Oliver Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 10:39 AM To: BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BKHD] Can somebody please!!! tell me how to start Hello Anita, I have enclosed the 1881 census for the only Robert Carter born in Tranmere at that time Dwelling: Coalpit Lane Census Place: Great Mollington, Cheshire, England Source: FHL Film 1341853 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 3562 Folio 91 Page 21 Marr Age Sex Birthplace John CARTER M 44 M Willaston, Cheshire, England Elizabeth CARTER M 44 F Woodbank, Cheshire, England John CARTER U 19 M Tranmere, Cheshire, England Edward CARTER U 18 M Tranmere, Cheshire, England James TILSTON U 17 M Woodbank, Cheshire, England Mary CARTER U 15 F Tranmere, Cheshire, England Robt. CARTER 10 M Tranmere, Cheshire, England Henry CARTER 6 M Mollington, Cheshire, England Anne CARTER 5 F Mollington, Cheshire, England Matthew CARTER 3 M Mollington, Cheshire, England Elizabeth CARTER 1 F Mollington, Cheshire, England Matilda TEASDALE U 31 F Gilless, Flint, Wales Robert GRIFFITH U 23 M Saughall, Cheshire, England This would appear to be the family you're looking for. Regards John Oliver (Upton, Wirral UK) ----- Original Message ----- From: anita bracken <eeyore_lover29@msn.com> To: <BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 7:26 PM Subject: [BKHD] Can somebody please!!! tell me how to start > Hello List I am new and need some beginner tips . > this is my problem > my great grandfather Robert Sylvester Carter was born in Cheshire England > Date Dec. 31 year > one obit for him say's Dec 31 1869 , another obit. say's 1870 ,and his citizenship papers say Dec 31, 1872 ugh. > birth place > both obituaries say Chester Cheshire England , Citizenship papers say Lower Tranmere > One photo of his mother taken by Watson Bro. Birkenhead abt 1860 or so (very strange Clothing) > His mothers name is Ellen E. ? father is john Carter > John carter Had children with his first wife and became a widow married another who also was a widow with children and then had more children together > names of siblings for my great grandfather in a family bible > 1) Joseph > married Claira > migrated to Australia Joseph did travel to the us. to visit his brother Robert stayed about 2 weeks and returned to Australia around 1920 or so is when he visited I have a photo of the two. > > 2) Edward > > 3) John > married with 5 children > > 4) Mary (Polly) > 1 son > > 5) Samuel > died in 1920 in a shipyard married with children > > 6) William Carter . > > later I was told that all the children went to Australia but Robert lived in Canada for 2 years . one family member told me someone use to go visit the uncles in Canada . there is just not enough or consistent data for me to figure this mess out Robert was the only one who came to the United states can anyone out there tell me how I can start this Project very frustrated > Begging for Help > Anita > Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com > > > ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== > Search the archives of Birkenhead-L > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/BIRKENHEAD.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== To contact the administrator of this mailing list, send mail to BIRKENHEAD-admin@rootsweb.com ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

Hello Anita, Tranmere is part of Birkenhead Borough, Mollington, Saughall etc are about 15 miles away. Have a look at www.streetmaps.co.uk just type in Birkenhead. I am 99% certain that the family in the 1881 census is yours, Elizabeth is his 2nd wife and James Tilston is her son from her 1st marriage. All the other names fit. I,ve had a look for Joseph, I think this is him working on another farm. Dwelling: Underwood Lane Farm House Census Place: Church Coppenhall, Cheshire, England Source: FHL Film 1341847 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 3539 Folio 79 Page 39 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Charles JONES M 45 M Tilston, Cheshire, England Anne JONES M 40 F Lea Newbold, Cheshire, England Annie JONES 14 F Barton, Cheshire, England Mary JONES 12 F Barton, Cheshire, England Elizabeth JONES 11 F Barton, Cheshire, England Hannah DAVIES U 17 F Rhos, Denbigh, Wales Job SMITH U 21 M Threapwood, Flint, Wales Joseph CARTER U 16 M Tranmere, Cheshire, England Regards John Oliver (Upton, Wirral UK) ----- Original Message ----- From: anita bracken <eeyore_lover29@msn.com> To: <BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 1:03 AM Subject: Re: [BKHD] Can somebody please!!! tell me how to start > John, > I think I need to get a map and study it to see if these places are close together Tranmere Chester, Great Mollington, example if someone lived in Tranmere would they go to Birkenhead to have a photo taken ? > thank you Very much for your help > Anita > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John Oliver > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 10:39 AM > To: BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BKHD] Can somebody please!!! tell me how to start > > Hello Anita, > I have enclosed the 1881 census for the only Robert > Carter born in Tranmere at that time > Dwelling: Coalpit Lane > Census Place: Great Mollington, Cheshire, England > Source: FHL Film 1341853 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 3562 Folio 91 Page > 21 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > John CARTER M 44 M Willaston, Cheshire, England > Elizabeth CARTER M 44 F Woodbank, Cheshire, England > John CARTER U 19 M Tranmere, Cheshire, England > Edward CARTER U 18 M Tranmere, Cheshire, England > James TILSTON U 17 M Woodbank, Cheshire, England > Mary CARTER U 15 F Tranmere, Cheshire, England > Robt. CARTER 10 M Tranmere, Cheshire, England > Henry CARTER 6 M Mollington, Cheshire, England > Anne CARTER 5 F Mollington, Cheshire, England > Matthew CARTER 3 M Mollington, Cheshire, England > Elizabeth CARTER 1 F Mollington, Cheshire, England > Matilda TEASDALE U 31 F Gilless, Flint, Wales > Robert GRIFFITH U 23 M Saughall, Cheshire, England > > This would appear to be the family you're looking for. Regards John Oliver > (Upton, Wirral UK) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: anita bracken <eeyore_lover29@msn.com> > To: <BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 7:26 PM > Subject: [BKHD] Can somebody please!!! tell me how to start > > > > Hello List I am new and need some beginner tips . > > this is my problem > > my great grandfather Robert Sylvester Carter was born in Cheshire England > > Date Dec. 31 year > > one obit for him say's Dec 31 1869 , another obit. say's 1870 ,and his > citizenship papers say Dec 31, 1872 ugh. > > birth place > > both obituaries say Chester Cheshire England , Citizenship papers say > Lower Tranmere > > One photo of his mother taken by Watson Bro. Birkenhead abt 1860 or so > (very strange Clothing) > > His mothers name is Ellen E. ? father is john Carter > > John carter Had children with his first wife and became a widow married > another who also was a widow with children and then had more children > together > > names of siblings for my great grandfather in a family bible > > 1) Joseph > > married Claira > > migrated to Australia Joseph did travel to the us. to visit his brother > Robert stayed about 2 weeks and returned to Australia around 1920 or so > is when he visited I have a photo of the two. > > > > 2) Edward > > > > 3) John > > married with 5 children > > > > 4) Mary (Polly) > > 1 son > > > > 5) Samuel > > died in 1920 in a shipyard married with children > > > > 6) William Carter . > > > > later I was told that all the children went to Australia but Robert lived > in Canada for 2 years . one family member told me someone use to go visit > the uncles in Canada . there is just not enough or consistent data for me to > figure this mess out Robert was the only one who came to the United states > can anyone out there tell me how I can start this Project very frustrated > > Begging for Help > > Anita > > Get more from the Web. 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