Hello Dave, you see the people My great grandfather left behind in England ,I can find nothing on as far as dates all that got left here were some names written in a bible .even great grandpa I am having a hard time confirming facts since 2 separate obituaries Listed 2 separate years . And His citizenship papers listed another all say Dec 30, then the obits list 1869 & 1870 Citizenship papers say 1872 ,obits say born Chester Cheshire citizenship papers say Lower Tranmere. I was told that Edward and Joseph both older then My great grandpa went to Australia . Joseph He was certain of and thought possibly it was Edward, if not Edward one older brother went with Joseph there were 2 of them though. I have tried searching the web for Australia carters and what I found out was they are as common as they are in England . so with out a good hard fact even if someone wanted to help me nobody can : ( facts that I know parents John carter mother Ellen ? children William samuel-died 1920 in a ship yard Edward Joseph Robert Sylveter Mary(Polly) Robert left Liverpool March 17 1898 on the vessel dominion the 2 older boys had to of been born abt 1860-1869 I just think with me being in the us there is no possible way for me to ever find my family : ( England and Australia are a hole nother world a way from me But thank you so much offering to help my lost cause Anita ----- Original Message ----- From: David Miller Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 11:43 PM To: BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BKHD] Can somebody please!!! tell me how to start Anita, I live in Australia and am sure there are some ship lists on the web. It will be just a matter of finding them. If you can send me any relevant details ie Names, ages(DOB) arrival dates etc. I will have a look and see what I can find. Regards Dave Miller ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== To contact the administrator of this mailing list, send mail to BIRKENHEAD-admin@rootsweb.com ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com