Hello helen, I think we must be thinking about two different places, the one I meant was at Irby crossroads. I'll go and have look at the area you mean tomorrow, I think it may be the Harvest Mouse, it's a Pub made to look like a windmill, that may be the one. Regards John Oliver (Upton, Wirral UK) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lavendersblue" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [BKHD-Wirral] Roll Call. WHARTON,YOUDS,CHATTERTON,WILKINSON,SMITH,DWERRYHOUSE,PEACOCK,KENYON,COGHLAN, POVALL,BARLOW. > Hi John, > Just trying to get my barings. This must be on the corner of Irby Road and > Thingwall Road, opposite Irby Hall? > > Helen > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Oliver" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 6:29 PM > Subject: Re: [BKHD-Wirral] Roll Call. > WHARTON,YOUDS,CHATTERTON,WILKINSON,SMITH,DWERRYHOUSE,PEACOCK,KENYON,COGHLAN, POVALL,BARLOW. > > > > Hello Helen, > > I think you're talking about Irby Mill Inn, > > it used to be a mill a long time ago, then it was Lumsden's Cafe, just > > before and after the War. It was converted to an Inn (tavern) in the > > 1980s(approx). Regards John Oliver > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "barbjack" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 1:37 AM > > Subject: Re: [BKHD-Wirral] Roll Call. > > WHARTON,YOUDS,CHATTERTON,WILKINSON,SMITH,DWERRYHOUSE,PEACOCK,KENYON,COGHLAN, > > POVALL,BARLOW. > > > > > >> Dear Helen. It was a tavern which was converted from the old farmhouse > > and > >> Mill, I know it was at Irby, I will have to ask my sister who lives at > >> Upton, her husband always took us there on a Wednesday night so that he > >> could have his glasses of beer, and she would have 2 whiskys. It was a > >> ritual, they did it every Wednesday night., I was staying with them for > > a > >> while. My sister is Joan and her husband was Hugh. Graham. Cheers. > > Barbara, > >> New Zealand. > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Lavendersblue" <[email protected]> > >> To: <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 8:44 AM > >> Subject: Re: [BKHD-Wirral] Roll Call. > >> > > WHARTON,YOUDS,CHATTERTON,WILKINSON,SMITH,DWERRYHOUSE,PEACOCK,KENYON,COGHLAN, > >> POVALL,BARLOW. > >> > >> > >> > Barbara, is this the Anchor pub you're talking about on Irby Road? When > > I > >> > lived over there there was a Youds family living on the opposite side > >> > of > >> the > >> > pub and a bit further down. > >> > Helen > >> > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: "barbjack" <[email protected]> > >> > To: <[email protected]> > >> > Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 8:12 PM > >> > Subject: Re: [BKHD-Wirral] Roll Call. > >> > > >> > > WHARTON,YOUDS,CHATTERTON,WILKINSON,SMITH,DWERRYHOUSE,PEACOCK,KENYON,COGHLAN, > >> POVALL,BARLOW. > >> > > >> > > >> > > Dear Gordon. Well you have done your homework, Good on you. In my > >> > > wanderings, looking for connections, I have come to the conclusion > > that > >> > > our > >> > > origins came from Irby, because the Mill (which is now a public > >> > > house) > >> > > seems > >> > > to be the place where they have been living at one time. (I have > >> actually > >> > > had a sherry in what would have been the kitchen ) I did not know at > > the > >> > > time the significance . I am so grateful for any snippit of > > information, > >> > > My > >> > > grandma Youds as we call Catherine who married John Wilkinson the > >> younger, > >> > > was a Quaker she was born in Bidston, but John Wilkinson was born in > >> > > Warrington, his father was Joseph, but I don't think Joseph was from > >> > > Warrington. Catherine and John had 10 children, 9 were sons, many > >> > > were > >> > > killed in the 1st world war, I never met them, but I did meet Jack > >> > > and > >> Jo, > >> > > so they must have had children, you are spread all over the Wirral, > > one > >> > > would be a butcher, some went to sea, my grandfather followed in the > >> > > footsteps of his father, he was a boilermaker. John Wilkinson played > > the > >> > > violin, and played for local hops, and I suspect was in the orchestra > >> for > >> > > the operas. Anyway, thanks for communicating , perhaps we will > >> eventually > >> > > find connections, it is good, I think I have sparked a flood of info > > for > >> > > others on the list. That much be good. Regards, Barbara., New > > Zealand. > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > > From: "gordon evans" <[email protected]> > >> > > To: <[email protected]> > >> > > Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 4:03 AM > >> > > Subject: Re: [BKHD-Wirral] Roll Call. > >> > > > >> > > WHARTON,YOUDS,CHATTERTON,WILKINSON,SMITH,DWERRYHOUSE,PEACOCK,KENYON,COGHLAN, > >> > > POVALL,BARLOW. > >> > > > >> > > > >> > >> Hi Barbara > >> > >> > >> > >> When I said I had ALL the names in your list I meant all the one's I > >> > >> could > >> > >> see in the subject line viz WHARTON, YOUDS, CHATTERTON and > >> > >> WILKINSON. > > I > >> > >> didn't appreciate that there were another seven names off the edge > >> > >> of > >> the > >> > >> page! > >> > >> As it happens I do also have PEACOCK's, SMITH's, POVALL's and > > BARLOW's, > >> > > but > >> > >> no KENYON's, DWERRYHOUSE's or COGHLAN's I'm afraid. > >> > >> My WILKINSON's are mostly from Saughall Massey & > >> > >> Upton-in-Overchurch, > >> > >> whereas your great-grandfather John WILKINSON appears to be from > >> > > Warrington. > >> > >> My YOUD's are from Irby, Thurstaston and Hoose whereas yours are > >> > >> from > >> > >> Bidston. > >> > >> I have a Frances WHARTON (b1809 Bidston) who married Joseph SHERLOCK > > in > >> > > 1829 > >> > >> but her parents were James and Elizabeth. > >> > >> As Ann Nazari has pointed out, there will be many North Wirral > > listers > >> > >> who > >> > >> can > >> > >> identify with your names - it's just a question of finding the right > >> > >> ones! > >> > >> Good luck, anyway. > >> > >> Gordon > >> > >> > >> > >> >Dear Gordon. My Kenyon is John, in 1789 his daughter Alice > >> > >> > >married > >> > >> >John > >> > >> >Dwerryhouse, at Childwall, Stanley Youds married Mary Chatterton, > >> >they > >> > > had > >> > >> >my gt grandmother Catherine Youds who married John Wilkinson, > >> >Catherine > >> > >> was > >> > >> >born in Bidston in 1833, married John in 1858, their son my > >> >grandfather > >> > >> was > >> > >> >Samuel Wilkinson born 1876 in Birkenhead married my grandmother > >> >Harriet > >> > >> >Dwerryhouse in I think 1899, my mother Harriet Wilkinson married > >> >Thomas > >> > >> >Jackson Smith at St Anne , Stanley, Liverpool in April 1931, I was > >> >born > >> > > in > >> > >> >1933. that is my grandfathers line, my grandmother Harriets mother > >> >was > >> > >> Eliza > >> > >> >Jane Peacock, she married John Dwerryhouse in 1873 December , at > >> > >> > >St > >> > >> >Nicholas, Liverpool landing stage. her father was William Peacock > >>and > >> I > >> > >> >think not proven yet, that William may have married Catherine > >>Coghlan > >> > > 1848 > >> > >> >at Cork, Ireland. Povall and Barlow are intermarried with the Youds > >> >and > >> > >> >Wilkinson. I know that are but cannot at this stage find the dates, > >> > >>Barlow > >> > >> >was Catherine Youds (Wilkinson) sister in law who lived with her > >> > >> >for > > a > >> > >> >time > >> > >> >in Birkenhead. Catherine Wilkinson new Youds had a brother 2 years > >> > >>younger > >> > >> >than her named Thomas. The Youds lived at Bidston, and I am told > >>that > >> > >> >we > >> > >> are > >> > >> >related to Robert Youds who had the flour Mill on Bidston Hill. Any > >> > >> >connections that you can see ? Cheers, Barbara <New Zealand.Oh! > >> > >> > >I > >> > > forgot > >> > >> >Wharton, I think he was Thomas, his daughter married William >Youds > > in > >> > >> 1700s. > >> > >> >Somewhere there is a connection with the Royal family, not sure > >>who, > >> > >> >but > >> > >> it > >> > >> >was all hushed up and we were told as children we were not allowed > >>to > >> > > tell > >> > >> >anyone, as Queen Victoria was a cousin Cheers. Barbara. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== > >> > >> Our list Web site with links useful for Wirral genealogy > >> > >> > >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/BIRKENHEAD-WIRRAL.html > >> > >> > >> > >> ============================== > >> > >> Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > >> > >> Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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