Dear Andy and Gil, Apologies for the delay in responding. I have been travelling. Sorry no, I do not have Christian names. Frustrating isn't it to get such information which you have to pursue without knowing whether it will lead to anything? I hope it does. Regards John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gilbert Upton" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 10:00 PM Subject: RE: [BKHD-Wirral] West Kirby AFC > Dear Andy and John, > > Not as expert as you think! > > From the mini-biogs I rely on there is no mention of the Sutton > of 1901-2 and 1902-3 - I will add his name to the collection for > possible future follow up. The 1911 Sutton is known - this is > what it says: > > ============================= > SUTTON > Born:Birkenhead > Goalkeeper , 1911 , Lanc Combination 1 app-0 goals, > Debut: v Tydesley Albion (a) 16 December 1911 Lancashire > Combination Division 2 > Career: Birkenhead St Annes August 1909 ; Birkenhead North End > May 1910 ; TRANMERE ROVERS December 1911 ; Birkenhead North End > December 1911 ; > Sutton had the makings of a good keeper but lacked experience. He > played for Birkenhead North End and was given a trial with Rovers > at Tyldesley Albion in a 5-3 win on 16 December 1911. Rovers won > 5-3 but Sutton was blamed for two of the goals and was released > after the game. > ============================= > > You haven't got his name or initials have you John? > > Regards, > > Gil Upton > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 16 September 2004 19:57 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [BKHD-Wirral] West Kirby AFC > Andy, > Gil Upton is the expert in this field but a Sutton appeared for > Tranmere Rovers (albeit at right-back) in the 1901-02 and 1902-03 > season and a Sutton appeared in goal in one match the Lancashire > League on 16 December 1911 against Tyldesley Albion. I do not > have any Christian names but could he be your GGF? > Regards > John Ellis > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andy Sutton" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 7:48 PM > Subject: [BKHD-Wirral] West Kirby AFC > > Does anyone know if any records still exist relating to West > Kirby AFC. > My Great Grandfather William Craine SUTTON (1874- 1938) kept goal > for Everton FC in the 1899 -1900 season a fact kindly confirmed > by the archivist at Everton FC. > > > > The Mersey views web site shows an old post card of West Kirby > AFC in > > 1894 > http://www.merseysideviews.com/Wirral%20Views/West%20Kirby/pages/ > Wst-Kby%201 > 19.htm as William lived in the Meols /Hoylake area all of his > life I am keen to establish if he played for the club and if any > old team photo still exist. > > > > I know, thanks to Gilbert Upton (Hi by the way) ,that William > does not > appear in the records for Tranmere Rovers for the period of > interest, so West Kirby AFC would appear to be a good place to > look. > > > > Andrew Sutton > > www.andysutton.co.uk > > > ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== > Our list Web site with links useful for Wirral genealogy > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/BIRKENHEAD-WIRRAL.html > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

John & Gill Posted this on the off chance. http://www.andysutton.co.uk/sutton_footballer.htm You never know. I will pass on any information received. Andrew ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Ellis" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 9:17 AM Subject: Re: [BKHD-Wirral] West Kirby AFC > Dear Andy and Gil, > > Apologies for the delay in responding. I have been travelling. > > Sorry no, I do not have Christian names. Frustrating isn't it to get such > information which you have to pursue without knowing whether it will lead > to > anything? I hope it does. > > Regards > > John > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gilbert Upton" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 10:00 PM > Subject: RE: [BKHD-Wirral] West Kirby AFC > > >> Dear Andy and John, >> >> Not as expert as you think! >> >> From the mini-biogs I rely on there is no mention of the Sutton >> of 1901-2 and 1902-3 - I will add his name to the collection for >> possible future follow up. The 1911 Sutton is known - this is >> what it says: >> >> ============================= >> SUTTON >> Born:Birkenhead >> Goalkeeper , 1911 , Lanc Combination 1 app-0 goals, >> Debut: v Tydesley Albion (a) 16 December 1911 Lancashire >> Combination Division 2 >> Career: Birkenhead St Annes August 1909 ; Birkenhead North End >> May 1910 ; TRANMERE ROVERS December 1911 ; Birkenhead North End >> December 1911 ; >> Sutton had the makings of a good keeper but lacked experience. He >> played for Birkenhead North End and was given a trial with Rovers >> at Tyldesley Albion in a 5-3 win on 16 December 1911. Rovers won >> 5-3 but Sutton was blamed for two of the goals and was released >> after the game. >> ============================= >> >> You haven't got his name or initials have you John? >> >> Regards, >> >> Gil Upton >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: 16 September 2004 19:57 >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [BKHD-Wirral] West Kirby AFC >> Andy, >> Gil Upton is the expert in this field but a Sutton appeared for >> Tranmere Rovers (albeit at right-back) in the 1901-02 and 1902-03 >> season and a Sutton appeared in goal in one match the Lancashire >> League on 16 December 1911 against Tyldesley Albion. I do not >> have any Christian names but could he be your GGF? >> Regards >> John Ellis >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Andy Sutton" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 7:48 PM >> Subject: [BKHD-Wirral] West Kirby AFC >> > Does anyone know if any records still exist relating to West >> Kirby AFC. >> My Great Grandfather William Craine SUTTON (1874- 1938) kept goal >> for Everton FC in the 1899 -1900 season a fact kindly confirmed >> by the archivist at Everton FC. >> > >> > The Mersey views web site shows an old post card of West Kirby >> AFC in >> > 1894 >> http://www.merseysideviews.com/Wirral%20Views/West%20Kirby/pages/ >> Wst-Kby%201 >> 19.htm as William lived in the Meols /Hoylake area all of his >> life I am keen to establish if he played for the club and if any >> old team photo still exist. >> > >> > I know, thanks to Gilbert Upton (Hi by the way) ,that William >> does not >> appear in the records for Tranmere Rovers for the period of >> interest, so West Kirby AFC would appear to be a good place to >> look. >> > >> > Andrew Sutton >> > www.andysutton.co.uk >> >> >> ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== >> Our list Web site with links useful for Wirral genealogy >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/BIRKENHEAD-WIRRAL.html >> >> ============================== >> Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >> Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >> >> > > > > > ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== > Our list Web site with links useful for Wirral genealogy > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/BIRKENHEAD-WIRRAL.html > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >