I do have to come in here and say that the Anchor Inn and the Irby Mill Inn are two different places, some miles apart. Irby Mill Inn is actually nearer to Frankby than Irby Bob Tennant----- Original Message ----- From: "Lavendersblue" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [BKHD-Wirral] Roll Call. WHARTON,YOUDS,CHATTERTON,WILKINSON,SMITH,DWERRYHOUSE,PEACOCK,KENYON,COGHLAN, POVALL,BARLOW. > Hi John, > Just trying to get my barings. This must be on the corner of Irby Road and > Thingwall Road, opposite Irby Hall? > > Helen > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Oliver" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 6:29 PM > Subject: Re: [BKHD-Wirral] Roll Call. > WHARTON,YOUDS,CHATTERTON,WILKINSON,SMITH,DWERRYHOUSE,PEACOCK,KENYON,COGHLAN, POVALL,BARLOW. > > > > Hello Helen, > > I think you're talking about Irby Mill Inn, > > it used to be a mill a long time ago, then it was Lumsden's Cafe, just > > before and after the War. It was converted to an Inn (tavern) in the > > 1980s(approx). Regards John Oliver > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "barbjack" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 1:37 AM > > Subject: Re: [BKHD-Wirral] Roll Call. > > WHARTON,YOUDS,CHATTERTON,WILKINSON,SMITH,DWERRYHOUSE,PEACOCK,KENYON,COGHLAN, > > POVALL,BARLOW. > > > > > >> Dear Helen. It was a tavern which was converted from the old farmhouse > > and > >> Mill, I know it was at Irby, I will have to ask my sister who lives at > >> Upton, her husband always took us there on a Wednesday night so that he > >> could have his glasses of beer, and she would have 2 whiskys. It was a > >> ritual, they did it every Wednesday night., I was staying with them for > > a > >> while. My sister is Joan and her husband was Hugh. Graham. Cheers. > > Barbara, > >> New Zealand. > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Lavendersblue" <[email protected]> > >> To: <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 8:44 AM > >> Subject: Re: [BKHD-Wirral] Roll Call. > >> > > WHARTON,YOUDS,CHATTERTON,WILKINSON,SMITH,DWERRYHOUSE,PEACOCK,KENYON,COGHLAN, > >> POVALL,BARLOW. > >> > >> > >> > Barbara, is this the Anchor pub you're talking about on Irby Road? When > > I > >> > lived over there there was a Youds family living on the opposite side > >> > of > >> the > >> > pub and a bit further down. > >> > Helen > >> > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: "barbjack" <[email protected]> > >> > To: <[email protected]> > >> > Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 8:12 PM > >> > Subject: Re: [BKHD-Wirral] Roll Call. > >> > > >> > > WHARTON,YOUDS,CHATTERTON,WILKINSON,SMITH,DWERRYHOUSE,PEACOCK,KENYON,COGHLAN, > >> POVALL,BARLOW. > >> > > >> > > >> > > Dear Gordon. Well you have done your homework, Good on you. In my > >> > > wanderings, looking for connections, I have come to the conclusion > > that > >> > > our > >> > > origins came from Irby, because the Mill (which is now a public > >> > > house) > >> > > seems > >> > > to be the place where they have been living at one time. (I have > >> actually > >> > > had a sherry in what would have been the kitchen ) I did not know at > > the > >> > > time the significance . I am so grateful for any snippit of > > information, > >> > > My > >> > > grandma Youds as we call Catherine who married John Wilkinson the > >> younger, > >> > > was a Quaker she was born in Bidston, but John Wilkinson was born in > >> > > Warrington, his father was Joseph, but I don't think Joseph was from > >> > > Warrington. Catherine and John had 10 children, 9 were sons, many > >> > > were > >> > > killed in the 1st world war, I never met them, but I did meet Jack > >> > > and > >> Jo, > >> > > so they must have had children, you are spread all over the Wirral, > > one > >> > > would be a butcher, some went to sea, my grandfather followed in the > >> > > footsteps of his father, he was a boilermaker. John Wilkinson played > > the > >> > > violin, and played for local hops, and I suspect was in the orchestra > >> for > >> > > the operas. Anyway, thanks for communicating , perhaps we will > >> eventually > >> > > find connections, it is good, I think I have sparked a flood of info > > for > >> > > others on the list. That much be good. Regards, Barbara., New > > Zealand. > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > > From: "gordon evans" <[email protected]> > >> > > To: <[email protected]> > >> > > Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 4:03 AM > >> > > Subject: Re: [BKHD-Wirral] Roll Call. > >> > > > >> > > WHARTON,YOUDS,CHATTERTON,WILKINSON,SMITH,DWERRYHOUSE,PEACOCK,KENYON,COGHLAN, > >> > > POVALL,BARLOW. > >> > > > >> > > > >> > >> Hi Barbara > >> > >> > >> > >> When I said I had ALL the names in your list I meant all the one's I > >> > >> could > >> > >> see in the subject line viz WHARTON, YOUDS, CHATTERTON and > >> > >> WILKINSON. > > I > >> > >> didn't appreciate that there were another seven names off the edge > >> > >> of > >> the > >> > >> page! > >> > >> As it happens I do also have PEACOCK's, SMITH's, POVALL's and > > BARLOW's, > >> > > but > >> > >> no KENYON's, DWERRYHOUSE's or COGHLAN's I'm afraid. > >> > >> My WILKINSON's are mostly from Saughall Massey & > >> > >> Upton-in-Overchurch, > >> > >> whereas your great-grandfather John WILKINSON appears to be from > >> > > Warrington. > >> > >> My YOUD's are from Irby, Thurstaston and Hoose whereas yours are > >> > >> from > >> > >> Bidston. > >> > >> I have a Frances WHARTON (b1809 Bidston) who married Joseph SHERLOCK > > in > >> > > 1829 > >> > >> but her parents were James and Elizabeth. > >> > >> As Ann Nazari has pointed out, there will be many North Wirral > > listers > >> > >> who > >> > >> can > >> > >> identify with your names - it's just a question of finding the right > >> > >> ones! > >> > >> Good luck, anyway. > >> > >> Gordon > >> > >> > >> > >> >Dear Gordon. My Kenyon is John, in 1789 his daughter Alice > >> > >> > >married > >> > >> >John > >> > >> >Dwerryhouse, at Childwall, Stanley Youds married Mary Chatterton, > >> >they > >> > > had > >> > >> >my gt grandmother Catherine Youds who married John Wilkinson, > >> >Catherine > >> > >> was > >> > >> >born in Bidston in 1833, married John in 1858, their son my > >> >grandfather > >> > >> was > >> > >> >Samuel Wilkinson born 1876 in Birkenhead married my grandmother > >> >Harriet > >> > >> >Dwerryhouse in I think 1899, my mother Harriet Wilkinson married > >> >Thomas > >> > >> >Jackson Smith at St Anne , Stanley, Liverpool in April 1931, I was > >> >born > >> > > in > >> > >> >1933. that is my grandfathers line, my grandmother Harriets mother > >> >was > >> > >> Eliza > >> > >> >Jane Peacock, she married John Dwerryhouse in 1873 December , at > >> > >> > >St > >> > >> >Nicholas, Liverpool landing stage. her father was William Peacock > >>and > >> I > >> > >> >think not proven yet, that William may have married Catherine > >>Coghlan > >> > > 1848 > >> > >> >at Cork, Ireland. Povall and Barlow are intermarried with the Youds > >> >and > >> > >> >Wilkinson. I know that are but cannot at this stage find the dates, > >> > >>Barlow > >> > >> >was Catherine Youds (Wilkinson) sister in law who lived with her > >> > >> >for > > a > >> > >> >time > >> > >> >in Birkenhead. Catherine Wilkinson new Youds had a brother 2 years > >> > >>younger > >> > >> >than her named Thomas. The Youds lived at Bidston, and I am told > >>that > >> > >> >we > >> > >> are > >> > >> >related to Robert Youds who had the flour Mill on Bidston Hill. Any > >> > >> >connections that you can see ? Cheers, Barbara <New Zealand.Oh! > >> > >> > >I > >> > > forgot > >> > >> >Wharton, I think he was Thomas, his daughter married William >Youds > > in > >> > >> 1700s. > >> > >> >Somewhere there is a connection with the Royal family, not sure > >>who, > >> > >> >but > >> > >> it > >> > >> >was all hushed up and we were told as children we were not allowed > >>to > >> > > tell > >> > >> >anyone, as Queen Victoria was a cousin Cheers. Barbara. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== > >> > >> Our list Web site with links useful for Wirral genealogy > >> > >> > >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/BIRKENHEAD-WIRRAL.html > >> > >> > >> > >> ============================== > >> > >> Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > >> > >> Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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