You're welcome Doug. I have had a lot of help from the list in the past and it's nice to put something back when you can. Regarding William and Susanna Tate of William Street on the Cheshire BMD there is a marriage in 1847 between a William Tater and a Susan Oxton. Free BMD transcribes it as William Tate with Susan Oxton having the same reference number. Having looked at the index on Ancestry it is definitely William Tate. Looking on the Cheshire Parish Register site there is a Susanna Oxton born 11 Feb 1827 to Thomas and Margaret Oxton and the residence is given as Oxton (which is where Susanna was born according to the 1851 census). Hopefully when you get Margaret's birth certificate and find that William and Susan(na)are indeed her parents you will be able to verify the above information and add it to your line. I could find no marriage of Thomas and Margaret. Have just looked again at the 1851 census and Thomas and Margaret Oxton are living at 22 William Street! I really hope they are your TATE family as this info is too good to not belong to someone. Regards Jen --original message-- > *From:* "Doug" <d.s.mason@btinternet.com> > *To:* <jen@easypc.cix.co.uk>, <birkenhead@rootsweb.com> > *Date:* Wed, 27 Sep 2006 11:27:42 +0100 > > Jen > Many thanks for the very useful information you've provided. I will > send for Margaret's Birth Certificate and it will be interesting to > see if her parents' names provide me with a platform to come forwards > again as well as back. With Margaret born 1855 it's almost certain we > are talking about parents born pre-1837. > I will try Central Library. I wasn't aware of the missing census > data. I don't know where William Street was back then. Can't see one > in my street maps from a century later, but I'm sure I'll dig it up > somehow. It may not even be relevent, but if the birth cert gives me > a William and Susanna you could well have hit the bullseye. > Thank you once again for taking the time to help me. > Doug > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <jen@easypc.cix.co.uk> > To: <birkenhead@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 8:22 AM > Subject: Re: [BIRKENHEAD] Margaret TATE born 1855 > > > > Hi Doug > > > > I have TAITs in Liverpool - Thomas Tait marrying my grandfather's > > sister > > in 1898. On the 1901 census they are transcribed as TART! His > > parents > > were William and Jessie (although she may be a second wife and not > > Thomas' mother who could be an Elizabeth). William came from > > Shetland. > > > > I know some of the 1871 census for Birkenhead is missing. It could > > be > > that your TATEs were living in the area that is lost. It has been > > pinpointed as the extreme South-East of the town in the area where > > the > > gas works were subsequently built. > > > > You can e-mail Birkenhead Library and ask them to look on the > > electoral > > roll for 1871 to see if your TATEs are listed. It will only give > > the > > head of the household but will confirm their whereabouts. > > > > birkenhead.ref@wirral-library.net (I made my enquiry quite some > > time ago > > and this is the address I used although it may not be current). > > > > There is a TATE family in the 1851 census living in William Street > > as > > follows > > > > HO107; Piece: 2175; Folio: 225; Page: 17 > > > > 11 William Street, Birkenhead, St Mary > > > > William TATE head age 27 boiler maker born Scotland > > Susanna TATE wife age 23 born Cheshire Oxton > > Mary J TATE daughter age 2 Cheshire Birkenhead > > > > As you say you have a Susan in the family there is a possible > > connection > > here. Strangely my gt grandmother was also Susan ROBERTS but she > > came > > from Eastham. (Her grandmother's name was also Susanna). > > > > I cannot see anything for 1861 or 1871 under TATE, TAIT or even > > TART. > > > > At least sending for the birth certificate of Margaret will give > > you the > > parents' names and you can then tie in the above or not as the case > > may > > be. > > > > Regards > > > > Jen > > --original message-- > > > >> *From:* "Doug" <d.s.mason@btinternet.com> > >> *To:* <birkenhead@rootsweb.com> > >> *Date:* Tue, 26 Sep 2006 18:54:50 +0100 > >> > >> Jeanette > >> Many thanks for the reply. > >> I haven't found my lady yet. > >> In '81 she is shown as Margaret Roberts living with husband John at > >> 9, St John's Terrace, Birkenhead, age 25 birthplace Birkenhead. > >> The birth certificate of her daughter Susan (b 22/03/1885) details > >> her as Margaret Roberts formerly TAIT. > >> I found a reference to their wedding on free BMD - Sept 1873- > >> Liverpool 8b 227 - and her name is given as TATE. > >> This spelling was confirmed on Lancashire BMD. > >> Cheshire BMD listed her birth in 1855 and name as Margaret TATE. > >> So there are a couple of certificates to send off for now. > >> But I am still intrigued to know what happened to her in the '61 > > and > >> '71 census. I've used Ancestry but not found a reference to a > >> Margaret TATE or TAIT born in Birkenhead in 1855. > >> Doug > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Jeanette Scott" <jes_krs@yahoo.co.uk> > >> To: <birkenhead@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 9:54 PM > >> Subject: Re: [BIRKENHEAD] Margaret TATE born 1855 > >> > >> > >> > Has anyone helped you yet I have had a quick look but nothing > >> > jumping out at me any other info > >> > parents names? > >> > > >> > Regards Jeanette > >> > > >> > Doug <d.s.mason@btinternet.com> wrote: > >> > Could somebody help me with a census lookup, 1861 & 1871 for > >> > Margaret TATE born 1855 in Birkenhead. > >> > Many thanks > >> > Doug > >> > > >> > ------------------------------- > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> > BIRKENHEAD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > > without > >> > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > --------------------------------- > >> > To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all > >> > new Yahoo! 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Well done Jen, that all fits nicely providing my Margaret's parents are William & Susanna. I've sent for it today so I'll let you know when it arrives. No wonder we can't find them on '61 or '71 as we've had TAIT, TATE, TART and TATER so far. I'd love to speculate further but it would only be in bad taste. (Perhaps it is TASTE) Susanna's birth date of 1827 fits in neatly with being 23 in 1851. The marriage in '47 and first born in '49 looks good. Then there is the bonus of Susanna's parents also living in William Street. Next week will feel like waiting for exam results to come through the post. Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: <jen@easypc.cix.co.uk> To: <birkenhead@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 5:47 PM Subject: Re: [BIRKENHEAD] Margaret TATE born 1855 > > You're welcome Doug. I have had a lot of help from the list in the past > and it's nice to put something back when you can. > > Regarding William and Susanna Tate of William Street on the Cheshire BMD > there is a marriage in 1847 between a William Tater and a Susan Oxton. > Free BMD transcribes it as William Tate with Susan Oxton having the same > reference number. Having looked at the index on Ancestry it is > definitely William Tate. Looking on the Cheshire Parish Register site > there is a Susanna Oxton born 11 Feb 1827 to Thomas and Margaret Oxton > and the residence is given as Oxton (which is where Susanna was born > according to the 1851 census). Hopefully when you get Margaret's birth > certificate and find that William and Susan(na)are indeed her parents > you will be able to verify the above information and add it to your > line. I could find no marriage of Thomas and Margaret. Have just looked > again at the 1851 census and Thomas and Margaret Oxton are living at 22 > William Street! I really hope they are your TATE family as this info is > too good to not belong to someone. > > Regards > > Jen > > --original message-- > >> *From:* "Doug" <d.s.mason@btinternet.com> >> *To:* <jen@easypc.cix.co.uk>, <birkenhead@rootsweb.com> >> *Date:* Wed, 27 Sep 2006 11:27:42 +0100 >> >> Jen >> Many thanks for the very useful information you've provided. I will >> send for Margaret's Birth Certificate and it will be interesting to >> see if her parents' names provide me with a platform to come forwards >> again as well as back. With Margaret born 1855 it's almost certain we >> are talking about parents born pre-1837. >> I will try Central Library. I wasn't aware of the missing census >> data. I don't know where William Street was back then. Can't see one >> in my street maps from a century later, but I'm sure I'll dig it up >> somehow. It may not even be relevent, but if the birth cert gives me >> a William and Susanna you could well have hit the bullseye. >> Thank you once again for taking the time to help me. >> Doug >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <jen@easypc.cix.co.uk> >> To: <birkenhead@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 8:22 AM >> Subject: Re: [BIRKENHEAD] Margaret TATE born 1855 >> >> >> > Hi Doug >> > >> > I have TAITs in Liverpool - Thomas Tait marrying my grandfather's >> > sister >> > in 1898. On the 1901 census they are transcribed as TART! His >> > parents >> > were William and Jessie (although she may be a second wife and not >> > Thomas' mother who could be an Elizabeth). William came from >> > Shetland. >> > >> > I know some of the 1871 census for Birkenhead is missing. It could >> > be >> > that your TATEs were living in the area that is lost. It has been >> > pinpointed as the extreme South-East of the town in the area where >> > the >> > gas works were subsequently built. >> > >> > You can e-mail Birkenhead Library and ask them to look on the >> > electoral >> > roll for 1871 to see if your TATEs are listed. It will only give >> > the >> > head of the household but will confirm their whereabouts. >> > >> > birkenhead.ref@wirral-library.net (I made my enquiry quite some >> > time ago >> > and this is the address I used although it may not be current). >> > >> > There is a TATE family in the 1851 census living in William Street >> > as >> > follows >> > >> > HO107; Piece: 2175; Folio: 225; Page: 17 >> > >> > 11 William Street, Birkenhead, St Mary >> > >> > William TATE head age 27 boiler maker born Scotland >> > Susanna TATE wife age 23 born Cheshire Oxton >> > Mary J TATE daughter age 2 Cheshire Birkenhead >> > >> > As you say you have a Susan in the family there is a possible >> > connection >> > here. Strangely my gt grandmother was also Susan ROBERTS but she >> > came >> > from Eastham. (Her grandmother's name was also Susanna). >> > >> > I cannot see anything for 1861 or 1871 under TATE, TAIT or even >> > TART. >> > >> > At least sending for the birth certificate of Margaret will give >> > you the >> > parents' names and you can then tie in the above or not as the case >> > may >> > be. >> > >> > Regards >> > >> > Jen >> > --original message-- >> > >> >> *From:* "Doug" <d.s.mason@btinternet.com> >> >> *To:* <birkenhead@rootsweb.com> >> >> *Date:* Tue, 26 Sep 2006 18:54:50 +0100 >> >> >> >> Jeanette >> >> Many thanks for the reply. >> >> I haven't found my lady yet. >> >> In '81 she is shown as Margaret Roberts living with husband John at >> >> 9, St John's Terrace, Birkenhead, age 25 birthplace Birkenhead. >> >> The birth certificate of her daughter Susan (b 22/03/1885) details >> >> her as Margaret Roberts formerly TAIT. >> >> I found a reference to their wedding on free BMD - Sept 1873- >> >> Liverpool 8b 227 - and her name is given as TATE. >> >> This spelling was confirmed on Lancashire BMD. >> >> Cheshire BMD listed her birth in 1855 and name as Margaret TATE. >> >> So there are a couple of certificates to send off for now. >> >> But I am still intrigued to know what happened to her in the '61 >> > and >> >> '71 census. I've used Ancestry but not found a reference to a >> >> Margaret TATE or TAIT born in Birkenhead in 1855. >> >> Doug >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Jeanette Scott" <jes_krs@yahoo.co.uk> >> >> To: <birkenhead@rootsweb.com> >> >> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 9:54 PM >> >> Subject: Re: [BIRKENHEAD] Margaret TATE born 1855 >> >> >> >> >> >> > Has anyone helped you yet I have had a quick look but nothing >> >> > jumping out at me any other info >> >> > parents names? >> >> > >> >> > Regards Jeanette >> >> > >> >> > Doug <d.s.mason@btinternet.com> wrote: >> >> > Could somebody help me with a census lookup, 1861 & 1871 for >> >> > Margaret TATE born 1855 in Birkenhead. >> >> > Many thanks >> >> > Doug >> >> > >> >> > ------------------------------- >> >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> > BIRKENHEAD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> > > without >> >> > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > --------------------------------- >> >> > To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all >> >> > new Yahoo! 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