Some of these might fit? Dwelling: 38 Warwick St Census Place: Birkenhead, Cheshire, England Source: FHL Film 1341857 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 3580 Folio 133 Page 35 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Ann WARING W 52 F Heswall, Cheshire, England Rel: Head Occ: Laundress Robert WARING U 24 M Bhead, Cheshire, England Rel: Son Occ: Joiner James WARING U 18 M Bhead, Cheshire, England Rel: Son Occ: Dairyman Andrew WARING U 8 M Bhead, Cheshire, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar John WARING U 6 M Bhead, Cheshire, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Thomas IVORY U 60 M Ireland Rel: Visitor Occ: Tailor John WIER M 38 M Ireland Rel: Lodger Occ: Gardener (Dom) Dwelling: 75 & 77 Price St Census Place: Birkenhead, Cheshire, England Source: FHL Film 1341856 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 3577 Folio 11 Page 16 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Jno VENABLES M 36 M Bebington, Cheshire, England Rel: Head Occ: Furniture Dealer Employing 2 Boys Martha VENABLES M 28 F Northop, Flint, Wales Rel: Wife Jno. W. VENABLES 5 M Bhead, Cheshire, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Henry F. VENABLES 4 M Bhead, Cheshire, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Fred W. VENABLES 1 M Bhead, Cheshire, England Rel: Son Ann QUINN U 17 F Bhead, Cheshire, England Rel: Servt Occ: General Servant Sarah A. LEDSHAN U 14 F Bhead, Cheshire, England Rel: Nurse Occ: General Servant Building: 143 Price St UNINHABITED Census Place: Birkenhead, Cheshire, England Source: FHL Film 1341856 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 3577 Folio 53 Page 15 Dwelling: 9 Ridley St Census Place: Birkenhead, Cheshire, England Source: FHL Film 1341857 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 3581 Folio 73 Page 62 Marr Age Sex Birthplace John K. VENABLES M 44 M Liverpool, Lancashire, England Rel: Head Occ: Collector Of Gas & Water A C (Serv) Martha VENABLES M 43 F Puddington, Cheshire, England Rel: Wife Elizabeth VENABLES U 18 F Birkenhead, Cheshire, England Rel: Dau William A. VENABLES U 15 M Oxton, Cheshire, England Rel: Son Occ: Apprentice Provision Merchant Everton VENABLES 14 M Oxton, Cheshire, England Rel: Son Occ: Apprentice Charterd Accountant Percy VENABLES 12 M Oxton, Cheshire, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Lily VENABLES 10 F Birkenhead, Cheshire, England Rel: Dau Occ: Scholar Cleara VENABLES 9 F Birkenhead, Cheshire, England Rel: Dau Occ: Scholar Dwelling: No 143 Price St Census Place: Harborne, Stafford, England Source: FHL Film 1341708 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 2961 Folio 12 Page 18 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Joseph MILES M 21 M Handsworth, Warwick, England Rel: Head Occ: Railway Servant Emma MILES M 22 F Worcester, Worcester, England Rel: Wife ---- Original Message ----- From: Fred & Joan Waring <jfwaring@compuserve.com> To: <BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 01:23 Subject: [BKHD] baptism certificate puzzles > > I have an 1875 baptism record from St Mary's in Birkenhead which includes > an indecipherable name. > The name starts with "Ve......" but that is all I can be sure about. The > address of Mr John Ve & Mrs. Martha Ve is 143 Price Street. Mr. V was a > furniture dealer.. Possible readings of the name include Vemabled, > Venabled, Vemables, Verables, etc. > > Can anyone, possibly somebody with easy access to the 1881 or 1871 census > clarify for me what the name actually is. > > There is a second puzzle about this baptism, certificate which perhaps > somebody can clear up. The baptism is for John Waring, the younger brother > of my grandfather Andrew. The parents column of the certificate lists Mr. > & Mrs. Ve.. but I feel fairly confident that the mother was actually Ann > Waring. So what does this discrepancy mean? Were Mr. & Mrs. Ve the > godparents? Was Mr. Ve the actual father? Why isn't the actual mother > (shown as an unwed mother of John in 1881) listed? > > fred waring > jfwaring@compuserve.com > > Any suggestions/speculations about the second puzzle would be appreciated. > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237 > >