Thanks Janet and George for your responses. Our Lady and St. Nicholas was the church where several of my ancestors married. As for "posh" none of my ancestors in this line were. Dorothy, Canada

Is there some problem? I am not receiving any messages from the Birkenhead list. Fred Waring

Hi Janet, You may have just solved a question for me. I have ancestors who were married in The Parish Church of Liverpool and their addresses at the time of marriage were Park Lane and Pitt St(?). Can you tell me if Pitt St(?) is anywhere near Park Lane or if it is in Liverpool or Birkenhead? I have other ancestors who married in the same church, as they are all mariners, but they lived in Birkenhead. Thanks for any light you can shed. Dorothy, Canada

I received your email Fred so maybe the list is really slow right now. Dorothy, Canada

http://www.gendocs.demon.co.uk/trades.html You'll find them listed here. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy Spence" <rottimum@platinum.ca> > Could someone please tell me if a "mariner" and a "flatman" were the same > trade? I have an ancestor who if I am right, is listed on one census as a > flatman and on another mariner. > > Many thanks, > Dorothy, Canada

Thank you for your help Wendy and I now know where to go to check them in future. Dorothy

Thanks for that Janet. Dorothy

Hi, in Victorian Occupations - _http://www.census1891.com/occupations-f.htm_ (http://www.census1891.com/occupations-f.htm) - it says Flatman -- Navigated a broad flat-bottomed boat used for transport,especially in shallow waters.Common in the salt trade. Wendy

Could someone please tell me if a "mariner" and a "flatman" were the same trade? I have an ancestor who if I am right, is listed on one census as a flatman and on another mariner. Many thanks, Dorothy, Canada

I think these were just three ships ie Ellis, Hope and Belfast. Perhaps the second name is the Captain of each. This is going by Ship News in The TImes. Judy On 5 Jun 2006, at 22:09, Andy Sutton wrote: > Gores Annals of Liverpool for 1799 records the following event: > > > > "12 November 1799, A dreadful hurricane. The Ellis, Souter, > stranded in Bootle Bay: The Hope, Chirmseck, Belfast and McRoberts > that sailed in the morning were totally lost, and all on board > perished. New buildings were blown down ands several houses > unroofed and many chimneys fell." > > > > Does anyone have anymore information about this event? > > > > Andrew Sutton > > www.andysutton.co.uk > > > ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== > Our list Web site with links useful for Wirral genealogy > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/BIRKENHEAD- > WIRRAL.html > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >

Gores Annals of Liverpool for 1799 records the following event: "12 November 1799, A dreadful hurricane. The Ellis, Souter, stranded in Bootle Bay: The Hope, Chirmseck, Belfast and McRoberts that sailed in the morning were totally lost, and all on board perished. New buildings were blown down ands several houses unroofed and many chimneys fell." Does anyone have anymore information about this event? Andrew Sutton www.andysutton.co.uk

Does this man appear in anyone's tree? William SHARP a drowned man Nov 18th 1799. St Hilary's Church Wallasey. I am interested in discovering the circumstances surrounding his death. I am in the process of reassessing the information I have about John SUTTON the Fisherman who was buried on the 14 November 1799 in the same graveyard. [My brickwall] There is some evidence to suggest that there was a storm of the Mersey coast the week procedding these 2 burials and I was wondering if they may be connected? Regards to the list Andrew Sutton The Sutton Families of the Wirral Hundred My Brickwall - John SUTTON the Fisherman

Hi Cyn. an e to wirralArchives at the town Hall Hamilton Sq. Birkenhead would let you know the schools around at the time they are very good there Cheers George Cynvogel@aol.com wrote: Would anyone have an idea of what school a child of a ship's engineer might have attended circa 1896 in Birkenhead--address 15 Fox St., Ward Grange? I assume these folks would have been poor, working class people. I would like to try the Wirral Archives for a registrar's listing of students; however, there appear to have been dozens of schools and I haven't a clue as to which school the child might have attended. Thank you, Cynthia in California, USA ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== Our list Web site with links useful for Wirral genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/BIRKENHEAD-WIRRAL.html ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx Cheers George

Would anyone have an idea of what school a child of a ship's engineer might have attended circa 1896 in Birkenhead--address 15 Fox St., Ward Grange? I assume these folks would have been poor, working class people. I would like to try the Wirral Archives for a registrar's listing of students; however, there appear to have been dozens of schools and I haven't a clue as to which school the child might have attended. Thank you, Cynthia in California, USA

Could I ask a kind person who maybe researching the name BENNETT to help me with a problem I seem to have, My ancestor Ellen Bennett was christened at Bidston 26 September 1693, her father was named William, she married STANLEY also at Bidston, my family line is a direct descendancy from them. I do not seem to be able to find who her mother was ? Thank you in advance. Barbara in New Zealand. their is a connection with Storton. the place not surname.

I am trying to trace ELIZABETH EDWARDS daughter of Joseph Edwards and Emma Sutton.On the 1851 census they are living in Bye Lane,Moreton,they are still in Moreton in 1861.On the 1871 Census they are living in Reeds Lane .Joseph and Emma die before 1881 and I am unable to find Elizabeth on the 1881 census.I would be grateful if anyone has any knowledge of this family to get in touch. Thanks Patricia

> how do i go about finding my father's john farrell other wise mckay > baptism > i think it would be st werburghs birkenhead i can't find birkenhead only > bidston the nearest > Alice Have you got his birth certificate? You don't say. John > > > ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== > Our list Web site with links useful for Wirral genealogy > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/BIRKENHEAD-WIRRAL.html > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- Get your free email address at http://www.merseymail.com/

yes he was born 15 december 1897 43 warwick st birkenhead, his mother kathleen farrell father not on it but he was john patrick mckay,

how do i go about finding my father's john farrell other wise mckay baptism i think it would be st werburghs birkenhead i can't find birkenhead only bidston the nearest

That's the wrong url I think Dorothy. This is the one I used today http://www.cheshireparish.man.ac.uk/ Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy Spence" <rottimum@platinum.ca> >I just checked the site you gave and got the "Forbidden" message! > Dorothy, Canada > >