I have checked out where 62 Chester Street stood and it would have been on the South side of the Magistrates Courts behind the Birkenhead Town Hall. A new block of shops and flat accommodation stands there now. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Alicerawley@aol.com> To: <BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 5:22 PM Subject: Re: [BKHD-Wirral] Westminster Hotel, Birkenhead > if im right there was the westminster pub corner of price street alice and > maybe near to the old haymarket ? > > > ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== > Our list Web site with links useful for Wirral genealogy > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/BIRKENHEAD-WIRRAL.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Hi again to you all on the Birkenhead list, While I am patiently waiting for a Marriage certificate, I thought that would fill in the time by sending a request to the list and ask if any one can help me with Catholic parish registers for Eastham 'Overpool' for Baptisms for my Carroll family?. Last time I asked a question, I was bold over with how generous & kind the group is. I thought if it is ok, I would ask if anyone can help me again. I am trying to find the baptisms for the following. Mary Carol born about 1831, Margaret Carrol born about 1834, Richard Carrol born about 1836. These names came from the 1851 census from a very kind man Gordon Evans. Also, is there an index for the 1841 census available for this area that I can buy? Thanking you. My very best wishes, Pat.

if im right there was the westminster pub corner of price street alice and maybe near to the old haymarket ?

Hi Tom, I have been looking in Google to see if its in there but the only one in Cheshire seems to be this one in Chester _http://www.priceline.co.uk/pcln/hotel/photos/217118_ (http://www.priceline.co.uk/pcln/hotel/photos/217118) .You could try emailing them and asking if they have any records from past employees? Wendy

In a message dated 20/06/2006 14:52:29 GMT Standard Time, rottimum@platinum.ca writes: Anything new on our Duxbury's Hi Dorothy I have done very little work on the Duxbury tree. I sit at the computer - but cannot get motivated!! How about you? Give me a nudge if I promised you any information. You will be doing me a favour! I did upload some images to the Duxbury group I started - but discovered that I had to pay a fee to upload more images so I stopped there. Will send a link to the site offlist. kathy

In a message dated 20/06/2006 13:31:59 GMT Standard Time, patluv57@iprimus.com.au writes: Also, is there an index for the 1841 census available for this area that I can buy? Hi Pat, I found a family with these members living at Back Chester Street in 1841. Parents appear to be Daniel and Ann. Other children at this address include Martha, Daniel and William. I will send a copy of the image offlist so you can check all details. best regards kathy Hoylake

My Great Grandmother, Mary Madden, was a cook at the Westminster Hotel as shown in the 1881 census. Does anyone have information about the Westminster Hotel? Tom Madden Wisconsin

Hi Kathy, How goes it? Anything new on our Duxbury's? Saw your name and couldn't resist. Dorothy, Canada

Hi Wendy, I have an Elizabeth JONES, daughter of Thomas JONES, painter, married to John ROWBOTTOM in 1857 in Liverpool. On the 1861 census for Garston, Lancs. it looks like she was born in Birkenhead ca. 1833. Any connection to your Joneses? Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: <JJWENDY@aol.com> To: <BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 6:49 AM Subject: Re: [BKHD-Wirral] Cheshire/Merseyside name interests > > Hi dave, > I am not sure if I have been in contact with you before or not but I > have these in my tree > > I have a CLARK (no e) from Bidston 1788 married John SUTTON of Wallasey > ECCLES LIVERPOOL - All the rest are from Hoylake Cheshire > Alice 1890 Aughton,Lancashire > Alice 1805 Formby Liverpool > Alice 1796 Formby Liverpool > Alice 1774 Formby Liverpool > Alice 1867 Liverpool (she died in 1889 in New York) > Ann 1815 Formby > Annie 1872 Liverpool > Catherine 1765 Formby > Edward 1859 Formby > Edward 1870 Formby > Ellen 1891 Liverpool > Ernest 1871 Liverpool > Florence A 1874 Liverpool > George A 1872 Liverpool > Henry S 1878 Liverpool > Isabella 1817 Formby > James 1869 Formby > James 1810 Formby > James 1772 Ainsdale,Formby > James Wainwright 1872 Liverpool > > EVANS LIVERPOOL - The rest from Cheshire > Albert 1880 Walton > Charles Henry 1872 Everton > Ellen 1856 Liverpool > Frank 1881 Walton > Jane 1877 Formby > Jane 1807 Formby > John 1869 Liverpool > John 1861 Formby > John 1821 Formby > John 1814 Ainsdale Formby > John 1777 Formby > John H 1875 Liverpool > Joseph 1812 Ainsdale Formby > Margaret 1865 Formby > Margaret 1803 Formby > Michael 1866 Formby > Michael 1803 Ainsdale Formby > Minnie H 1899 Formby > Peggy 1807 Formby > Robert 1862 Formby > Robert 1814 Formby > Samuel 1874 Liverpool > Susannah 1871 Liverpool > Thomas 1853 Formby > Thomas 1810 Formby > Thomas 1799 Ainsdale Formby > Thomas 1779 Formby > William Ralph 1868 Liverpool > George 1878 Walton > John 1864 Liverpool > Martha 1851 Liverpool > Robert I 1868 Liverpool > Thomas Morgan 1859 Liverpool > William 1775 Liverpool > I have JONES coming out my ears! Wales,Birkenhead,Liverpool,Wallasey,west > Kirby ,Hoylake! > I have Violet SPARKS not sure where she was married but she died 15 Jan > 1983 > Australia,she married my 2nd cousin once removed John Marshall VERRINDER > in > 1928.He was born in Hoylake 1902 > > Wendy > > ______________________________

Wendy, Can't see that we have a connection. The furthest back I can take my Clarkes is to Peter Clarke, a customs officer, born about 1808 in Liverpool. He married, firstly, Mary Jordan in 1831 and, secondly, Sarah Eccles in 1840. Sarah was the daughter of Simon Eccles, blacksmith, of West Derby. My Evans ancestors in Liverpool descended from Robert Evans who had a smallholding at Aberffraw in Anglesey and was landlord of "The Eagles" there. I have two JONES with Liverpool and Anglesey connections. Firstly, my gg grandparents, John and Sidney Jones. I believe that both of them were born in Anglesey, John in 1788 and Sidney in 1794. The first record I find of them is in the 1841 census living in a cellar on the west side of St Paul's Square, Liverpool. I only have a record of one child, Caroline, born in Liverpool in 1821. She married John Evans in Liverpool in 1846. John had been born at Aberffraw in Anglesey the son of Robert referred to above. The second JONES is Hugh born about 1851 at Holyhead. Hugh was a tailor who moved to Liverpool and married Mary Ellen, the daughter of the John Evans referred to above. Hugh and Mary had children Hugh, John, William and Caroline. I have a third JONES in Liverpool, Robert Mattew Jones. He married John and Caroline Evans's daughter Sidney in Liverpool in 1882. Robert was born at Ynyscynhiairn in Caernarfonshire. My Sparks are all descended from those living in the parish of Eastham in the 18th century. I have quite extensive information on them, their ancestors and descendents. I don't have a Violet among them that I know of. David -----Original Message----- From: JJWENDY@aol.com [mailto:JJWENDY@aol.com] Sent: 18 June 2006 14:49 To: BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BKHD-Wirral] Cheshire/Merseyside name interests Hi dave, I am not sure if I have been in contact with you before or not but I have these in my tree I have a CLARK (no e) from Bidston 1788 married John SUTTON of Wallasey ECCLES LIVERPOOL - All the rest are from Hoylake Cheshire Alice 1890 Aughton,Lancashire Alice 1805 Formby Liverpool Alice 1796 Formby Liverpool Alice 1774 Formby Liverpool Alice 1867 Liverpool (she died in 1889 in New York) Ann 1815 Formby Annie 1872 Liverpool Catherine 1765 Formby Edward 1859 Formby Edward 1870 Formby Ellen 1891 Liverpool Ernest 1871 Liverpool Florence A 1874 Liverpool George A 1872 Liverpool Henry S 1878 Liverpool Isabella 1817 Formby James 1869 Formby James 1810 Formby James 1772 Ainsdale,Formby James Wainwright 1872 Liverpool EVANS LIVERPOOL - The rest from Cheshire Albert 1880 Walton Charles Henry 1872 Everton Ellen 1856 Liverpool Frank 1881 Walton Jane 1877 Formby Jane 1807 Formby John 1869 Liverpool John 1861 Formby John 1821 Formby John 1814 Ainsdale Formby John 1777 Formby John H 1875 Liverpool Joseph 1812 Ainsdale Formby Margaret 1865 Formby Margaret 1803 Formby Michael 1866 Formby Michael 1803 Ainsdale Formby Minnie H 1899 Formby Peggy 1807 Formby Robert 1862 Formby Robert 1814 Formby Samuel 1874 Liverpool Susannah 1871 Liverpool Thomas 1853 Formby Thomas 1810 Formby Thomas 1799 Ainsdale Formby Thomas 1779 Formby William Ralph 1868 Liverpool George 1878 Walton John 1864 Liverpool Martha 1851 Liverpool Robert I 1868 Liverpool Thomas Morgan 1859 Liverpool William 1775 Liverpool I have JONES coming out my ears! Wales,Birkenhead,Liverpool,Wallasey,west Kirby ,Hoylake! I have Violet SPARKS not sure where she was married but she died 15 Jan 1983 Australia,she married my 2nd cousin once removed John Marshall VERRINDER in 1928.He was born in Hoylake 1902 Wendy ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== Our list Web site with links useful for Wirral genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/BIRKENHEAD-WIRRAL.html ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

My main name interests in Cheshire and Merseyside are: BRUNT - Bucknell in Shropshire, Radnorshire, Aymestry in Herefordshire, Birkenhead, Liverpool CHADWICK - Ashton under Lyne Lancashire, Wallasey in Cheshire, Victoria British Columbia CLARKE - Liverpool, Wallasey in Cheshire ECCLES - West Derby in Lancashire EVANS - Aberffraw in Anglesey, Liverpool FOULKES - West Kirby in Cheshire JONES - Llandwrog and Ynyscynhairn in Caernarfonshire, Liverpool NEWELL - Liverpool RAILTON - Appleby and Newbiggin in Westmorland, Hornby in Lancashire, Liverpool, Wallasey and Heswall in Cheshire SIMMONS - Liverpool, Wallasey in Cheshire SPARK(E)(S) - Eastham in Cheshire TREADWELL - New Brunswick and various locations in Wirral Cheshire WILLIAMS - Northop in Flintshire, Eastham in Cheshire I would be pleased to hear from anyone who thinks they may have a connection. David

Hi dave, I am not sure if I have been in contact with you before or not but I have these in my tree I have a CLARK (no e) from Bidston 1788 married John SUTTON of Wallasey ECCLES LIVERPOOL - All the rest are from Hoylake Cheshire Alice 1890 Aughton,Lancashire Alice 1805 Formby Liverpool Alice 1796 Formby Liverpool Alice 1774 Formby Liverpool Alice 1867 Liverpool (she died in 1889 in New York) Ann 1815 Formby Annie 1872 Liverpool Catherine 1765 Formby Edward 1859 Formby Edward 1870 Formby Ellen 1891 Liverpool Ernest 1871 Liverpool Florence A 1874 Liverpool George A 1872 Liverpool Henry S 1878 Liverpool Isabella 1817 Formby James 1869 Formby James 1810 Formby James 1772 Ainsdale,Formby James Wainwright 1872 Liverpool EVANS LIVERPOOL - The rest from Cheshire Albert 1880 Walton Charles Henry 1872 Everton Ellen 1856 Liverpool Frank 1881 Walton Jane 1877 Formby Jane 1807 Formby John 1869 Liverpool John 1861 Formby John 1821 Formby John 1814 Ainsdale Formby John 1777 Formby John H 1875 Liverpool Joseph 1812 Ainsdale Formby Margaret 1865 Formby Margaret 1803 Formby Michael 1866 Formby Michael 1803 Ainsdale Formby Minnie H 1899 Formby Peggy 1807 Formby Robert 1862 Formby Robert 1814 Formby Samuel 1874 Liverpool Susannah 1871 Liverpool Thomas 1853 Formby Thomas 1810 Formby Thomas 1799 Ainsdale Formby Thomas 1779 Formby William Ralph 1868 Liverpool George 1878 Walton John 1864 Liverpool Martha 1851 Liverpool Robert I 1868 Liverpool Thomas Morgan 1859 Liverpool William 1775 Liverpool I have JONES coming out my ears! Wales,Birkenhead,Liverpool,Wallasey,west Kirby ,Hoylake! I have Violet SPARKS not sure where she was married but she died 15 Jan 1983 Australia,she married my 2nd cousin once removed John Marshall VERRINDER in 1928.He was born in Hoylake 1902 Wendy

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Looking for information on a building Westminster Buildings, Chester St, Birhd also William Kerr, Victualler, 28 Mersey Street. Did this William Kerr have 2 businesses and was Westminster Buildings a large building? Regards Jeanette Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

Hi List Researching my 3rd Great-Grandaunt Margaret Hayes wife of Thomas Jones and mother of the following children: Elizabeth d: unknown Margaret Sarah Mary E Thomas Catherine Hayes Jones Clara Florence Elizabeth John Margaret is the daughter of John Hayes born abt 1810 in Ireland who, with wife Margaret came to England before 1841 and was a coastguard/ H.M. Customs officer. Thomas Jones married Margaret 1 November 1866 at St Andrew's Bebington. Thomas was a Joiner 1871-1881 Dock Labourer 1891-1901 and lived at the following addresses: Living at 105 Hill Street Toxteth Park Liverpool in 1871 Living at 11 Dee Street Tranmere in 1881 Living at 36 Grosvenor Street Tranmere in 1891 Living at 60 St Pauls Road Rock Ferry in 1901 Any one else researching this family or know of them could you please help with any information you have. Regards Mike Hayes Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

Park Lane: You're absolutely right, not in your time, nor that of my cousin, but apparently it was in the mid 1800s. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "GEORGE HIGHTON" <george.highton@btinternet.com> > Hi Dorothy Pitt St.is within a stone throw of Park Lane they could have been accomodation addresses to be able to marry in the marriners church several of my relatives did use such addresses to marry in St nicholas and our lady as for Park Lane being Posh not in my lifetime as I worked all over the city in the 50'sand 60's I seem to remember at the bottom of Park Lane there was a Naval outfitters all the merchant naval personel used to go and get there sea going gear there (shell' P & O , Harrison Line, Bibbys and I think they had an accomodation address were you could send and receive mail and the like maybee an old sailor could confirm this Cheers George >

Hi Dorothy Pitt St.is within a stone throw of Park Lane they could have been accomodation addresses to be able to marry in the marriners church several of my relatives did use such addresses to marry in St nicholas and our lady as for Park Lane being Posh not in my lifetime as I worked all over the city in the 50'sand 60's I seem to remember at the bottom of Park Lane there was a Naval outfitters all the merchant naval personel used to go and get there sea going gear there (shell' P & O , Harrison Line, Bibbys and I think they had an accomodation address were you could send and receive mail and the like maybee an old sailor could confirm this Cheers George Dorothy Spence <rottimum@platinum.ca> wrote: Hi Janet, You may have just solved a question for me. I have ancestors who were married in The Parish Church of Liverpool and their addresses at the time of marriage were Park Lane and Pitt St(?). Can you tell me if Pitt St(?) is anywhere near Park Lane or if it is in Liverpool or Birkenhead? I have other ancestors who married in the same church, as they are all mariners, but they lived in Birkenhead. Thanks for any light you can shed. Dorothy, Canada ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== Our list Web site with links useful for Wirral genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/BIRKENHEAD-WIRRAL.html ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx Cheers George

Park Lane, Liverpool was the address where David KIRKPATRICK "practised" in the years 1824 until his death in 1837. The husband of a second cousin of mine knows Liverpool well, having studied there, in the 50s, and he told me that at the time Park Lane was as "posh" as its namesake in London. David Kirkpatrick and his wife Elizabeth SILLER or SELLERS were married in 1818 in the Church of St. Peter, in the Parish of Liverpool. I have a copy of the Licence to marry which he signed and impressed a fingerprint, as did a witness I.M. Kirkpatrick, who I cannot identify. If anyone here has already helped me in this - thanks again - and please forgive me for repeating that I do no know why, for sure, they lived in Caldy and took their children to Liverpool to be baptised. I suspect a non conformist religion, or Presbyterian, Kirk of Scotland. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy Spence" <rottimum@platinum.ca> > Hi Janet, > > You may have just solved a question for me. I have ancestors who were > married in The Parish Church of Liverpool and their addresses at the time of > marriage were Park Lane and Pitt St(?). Can you tell me if Pitt St(?) is > anywhere near Park Lane or if it is in Liverpool or Birkenhead? I have other > ancestors who married in the same church, as they are all mariners, but they > lived in Birkenhead. > > Thanks for any light you can shed. > > Dorothy, Canada

There hasn't been any since 12 June, 8th June, 5th June. Seems a lot of us have unsolved problems. Perhaps I should post mine again. I am looking for the parents of David KIRKPATRICK who was born 1783, don't know where of course, but he lived in Caldy, worked out of Liverpool as a Master Mariner/Surgeon where he died at 130 Park Lane, in 1837 Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred Waring" <fred.waring@verizon.net> > Is there some problem? I am not receiving any messages from the Birkenhead list. > Fred Waring >