You're welcome! :-)) Vivien Blythe, Oxton, Birkenhead, Wirral Peninsula

For Hazel To the best of my knowledge, Tranmere (and Higher Tranmere) have never been part of Bebington, but certainly next to it. (Likewise there is a Lower and Higher Bebington) The frontage of the Wirral facing the Mersey, opposite Liverpool, is a string of townships, all incorporating numerous villages, and in VERY simplistic terms runs from North to Southeast as follows...Wallasey, Birkenhead, Bebington, Bromborough/Eastham. This frontage must run for at least 8-10 miles, at a guess, hence the answer to your question, why would marriages take place in a chapel in Birkenhead instead of Bebington Parish Church. Long way - lots of churches in between. Tranmere is a part of Birkenhead that sits pretty much next to Bebington, and it's constituent villages of Rock Ferry and New Ferry (Note all the "Ferry" connections - the Priory is at a place actually formerly called Monks Ferry, now next door to the current landing stage of Woodside. The other current ferry terminal is in Wallasey, at Seacombe. New Brighton, at the Northern end of Wallasey, which once was, and is becoming again, a major local seaside attraction, used to have a pier and it's own Ferry). (Next to Tranmere is Prenton, home of the greatest Football team in the world, the mighty Tranmere Rovers FC.) No doubt I will attract a load of responses telling me I didn't mention this, or I should have said that, but this is just a very brief mental image for you of the area of which you are enquiring. Hope it helps. Andy Bell _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

I have recently discovered that my gt.gt.grandfather's brother Patrick Killen married a Sarah Goodfellow Krebs back in 1869 in Birkenhead. I would love to know something about Sarah's first marriage - and also how she is the aunt of a Christian Krebs Perry, who was living in Tranmere in 1881. I have been mainly researching in Liverpool and Ireland, so it came as something of a surprise to realise that there were family connections "over the water"! Also, my gt.grandfather James Killen married an Elizabeth Burns, and her mother was Sarah Warrington. Have also discovered that there were Warrington families on the Wirral also back then, and I'm wondering if there is a connection. Regards Freda

TRANMERE A township and chapelry in Bebington Parish, Wirral Hundred , which became part of Birkenhead in 1898. Includes the hamlets of Clifton Park, Devonshire Park, Lower Tranmere, Mersey Park and Victoria Park The population was 353 in 1801, 6519 in 1851 and 37709 in 1901. BIRKENHEAD A township and chapelry in Bidston Parish, Wirral Hundred. In 1898 the civil parish was extended to include Claughton cum Grange, Oxton, Rock Ferry and Tranmere. In 1928 part of Bidston cum Ford was added to Birkenhead, and in 1933 Birkenhead was extended to include Landican, Noctorum, Prenton, Thingwall and Woodchurch, and parts of Arrowe, Bidston cum Ford and Upton by Birkenhead. In 1974 Birkenhead was transferred to the county of Merseyside. Birkenhead was a county borough from 1889 to 1974. Includes the hamlets of Egerton Park, Grange and Woodside. The population was 110 in 1801, 24285 in 1851, 110912 in 1901 and 142501 in 1951. For further information go to: http://www.fhsc.org.uk/genuki/chs/birken.htm Hope that this helps! Vivien Blythe, Oxton, Birkenhead, Wirral Peninsula "Happiness is helping a stranger find their roots!"

In a message dated 04/09/01 11:44:58 GMT Daylight Time, VivBeeBlythe@aol.com writes: << Caryl, .... Just a thought, .... why not post details of your new Birkenhead/Wirral list on the Cheshire-L website? Lots of folk on there ask questions about Birkenhead and Wirral! *‘©‘*‘§*‘©*‘§*‘©*‘§*‘©*‘§ Hugs from Vivien §*‘©*‘§*‘©*‘§*©*§*‘©* >> Viv I have posted it to the Cheshire L list Caryl

Apologies to all Listers, .... My last message should have gone directly to Caryl! :-(( Vivien Blythe, Oxton, Birkenhead, Wirral Peninsula "Happiness is helping a stranger find their roots!"

Caryl, .... Just a thought, .... why not post details of your new Birkenhead/Wirral list on the Cheshire-L website? Lots of folk on there ask questions about Birkenhead and Wirral! *‘©‘*‘§*‘©*‘§*‘©*‘§*‘©*‘§ Hugs from Vivien §*‘©*‘§*‘©*‘§*©*§*‘©*

Vivien, Thanks for the information on Birkenhead and Tranmere. You have cleared up some questions I had. Margaret __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com

Thank you for joining the list This list is very new, only started it yesterday and you are all the first subscribers I started this list because Birkenhead is a large town with a lot of history and movement of people and I felt it deserved a list of it's own. This list also includes Wirral The list may be quiet at first (or it might not be!!) and you may not have any queries answered straight away. If any queries are unanswered in this early stage please repeat the question later on as more people subscribe and the list becomes better known Maybe for now we could have a Roll call of the names we are all researching, then we can repeat the Roll call every so often as the numbers increase...I notice some people have already posted their research interests, thanks Hope you all enjoy the list Caryl Williams List Owner

I am happy to be in at the start of this new list and hope to learn more about Birkenhead (Tranmere) where my grandmother was born in 1875. For starters, is Tranmere a section of Birkenhead or is it a separate town? On my grandmothers birth certificate it says she was born 5 Derby Street sub district Tranmere, registration district Birkenhead. I am hoping to find any information on her parents, Christopher MAGUIRE and Mary COLEMAN, both born Ireland in late 1840's. Christopher was a seaman merchant navy. They emigrated to US in late 1880/1. Regards, Margaret __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com

In a message dated 04/09/01 00:33:00 GMT Daylight Time, hazel@fullerh.freeserve.co.uk writes: << I was wondering just how wide Birkenhead stretches and whether the mailing list will include adjoining areas. My family, for example, comes from Bebington but some members married in Tranmere which included Hr. Bebington in its parish in the past but is now, I think, linked to Birkenhead. >> Yes, essentially the list will be for Birkenhead and Wirral I'll include that in the welcome message Caryl List Owner

I was wondering just how wide Birkenhead stretches and whether the mailing list will include adjoining areas. My family, for example, comes from Bebington but some members married in Tranmere which included Hr. Bebington in its parish in the past but is now, I think, linked to Birkenhead. I am also interested to learn whether anybody has information about Birkenhead Priory and Berket Chapel which I have been told was the chapel attached to the Priory. I have come across some 18th century marriages which took place at Berket Chapel and have been trying to find out where it was and why marriages would have taken place there and not in the parish church of Bebington. The family names I am researching in the Wirral are Williams, Ledsom/e/sham, Dodd, White, Goldson. Hazel Devon, England

Hello, My interest for this part of the world is the OLLERHEAD family of Bromborough and Tranmere. John OLLERHEAD was a labourer at the 'Pool Works' in Bromborough in the 1860's. Does anyone know what the Pool Works were? _________________________ malcolm.hulme@btinternet.com Shetland Islands

Hello List, I have been searching my family in and around Birkenhead.( Peter FULTON born 1826 West Kirby, Cheshire. Died 1859. married to Ann LINEN born 1831 Neston, Cheshire. died 1865. As far as I know there children were) Thomas FULTON born Feb. 27, 1852 Birkenhead. and Mary Ellen FULTON born 1854. Thomas married Rebecca FOGG born 1858 Seacombe. married Jan 21, 1877 Saint Nicholas. Liverpool. (My G Grandparents ). There children were James FULTON born Oct. 24, 1883. Birkenhead. Died June 26, 1916. James FULTON married Margaret Ann BROWN. born Dec. 1883 Birkenhead. they married April 14, 1910 Calgary, Alberta. Canada. Margart Ann BROWN's family; her parents were Samuel BROWN born 1845 Ireland. married Mary Jane CUMMINGS born 1847 Ireland. married March 26, 1869 Saint Nicholas, Liverpool. There children were all born in Birkenhead. Richard 1870, Elizabeth 1872, Robert 1876. Mary E. 1878 Sarah J. 1880. Margaret Ann 1883. Any help finding descendents, or helping me in my search for ancestors would truely be appreciated.Thank You .Searching for FULTON, FOGG, BROWN. CUMMINGS. Pat BAKEWELL (nee FULTON ) Wainwright, Alberta. Canada. patbill@telusplanet.net

Birkenhead Priory Tucked away in the heart of the shipbuilding area, as used to be, is probably the oldest building in Birkenhead. From the A41 you can just see the spire above the factory units which surround it, and, if you aren't looking, you can easily miss the signpost for it. This ancient building, of which there is left, like many ancient monuments, the bare bones and and a visitor centre, was founded between 1154 and 1199. A visitor can see, and get, on the outside, an impression of how the monks used to live. You can see fireplaces in the remains of the rooms, and judge how small compared to today's heights the people of that time were. The priory was rebuilt and added to over the many years of its existence, so it is a mixture of architectural styles. A lot of the area where the priory stood has been built over, in fact there is a dry dock built by Cammel Lairds where the graveyard, in use for some 500 years, used to be, leaving the main building of the priory just a few yards away. There is still the scriptorium, which holds the visitor centre, in good condition. The priory has now been officially declared an Ancient Monument. The first prior was a man called Robert. The seal of the priory was a lozenge approximately 6x3cm showing St James, the patron saint of the priory. The priory was in continuous use until the time of the dissolution, but the chapel continued in use until the middle of the 17th century. Within the walls are the tombs of some of the priors. The Arms of the church were taken from those of the man that founded it, the Norman Baron Hamo de Mascy. These were later to be taken into the Birkenhead Armorial Bearings. After King John gave Liverpool its charter the monks ran the first ferry service across the river. There has been a service ever since. If the trip across could not be made due to bad weather the passengers were put up at the priory overnight and fed. The ferry started off as a free service, but as Liverpool grew there were so many people wanting to cross that the monks could no longer afford to do this. They received a charter from Edward III granting them the rights to do so. ( There is a tapestry in the Williamson Art Gallery, Birkenhead, showing this ceremony, along with other finds from excavations, including keys and coins, pottery and even a nail from the original building.) This charter is the reason that the ferry service is still in use today. Several years ago it was decided, by the local Passenger Transport Executive, that it was unprofitable, and they tried to get the service closed. It was then that they discovered that it would take an Act of Parliament to do so, and so the service was then altered from one of a purely commuter one, to a tourism one. From the boat, just after it leaves the Birkenhead Ferry Terminal, you can see the priory. During the Civil War, in 1644, the main hall was used as a garrison by the Cavaliers, but when they surrendered to the Roundheads it was demolished. The stones of the building were used to build other buildings, which have since been pulled down and lost. However, there is still St Mary's church, built very close, that has some parts of the old priory incorporated into it. The Victorians, who were presumably running out of burial spaces, even used the refectory area as a cemetery. (Bibliography:- Birkenhead Priory by Jean Mc Inness 1983 ) Vivien Blythe, Oxton, Birkenhead, Wirral Peninsula "Happiness is helping a stranger find their roots!"

Not sure if I am in the right area. Albert Edward Poad was born in New Brighton, Cheshire in 1880 at 17 Windsor Street at 8.20 AM He later married someone named, Emily and they emigrated to Montreal, Canada , date unknown. They have been found there in a city directory of 1931 but not sure if that is the earliest. Did they have children? Have this family back to 1715 in Cornwall and later Bristol. Also branches in Australia, NewZealand, USA and Canada. Any information would be much appreciated. Dorothy Victoria, Canada

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Forwarded from Yorksgen list, hope it helps, Sue. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Harrogate1901@aol.com> To: <YORKSGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 2:25 PM Subject: [YKS] Strays in Harrogate 1901 Census - No.27 > ...........next batch of non-Harrogate "Where Born" .............. > > ...........I have further census details on each individual, also, in many > cases, newspaper snippets and other items, and can easily send on > request........ > > ...........please pass on to other relevant County, and national, > lists............ > > ...........I'd be happy to receive any Harrogate born individuals found in > any non-Harrogate areas (from any of the Census years)...............or ANY > Harrogate material............ > > ............please note that I have not checked the last column with the > National Gazetteer, and would therefore appreciate any corrections......!! > > .........the layout is : > > Surname, Forename(s), Condition, Male Age, Female Age, Calculated year of > birth (courtesy of Custodian v2.3.9), Where Born > > Tony Cheal > Harrogate Historical Society and re-Population Study Group > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > IREDALE,Mary E,M,,24,1877,Liverpool, Lancs > PICTON,Peter,M,60,,1841,Lynn, Cheshire >> ROBERTS,Charles S,M,49,,1852,Birkenhrad, Cheshire > TASKER,Albert,U,29,,1872,Bowden, Cheshire > TASKER,Elizabeth,U,,23,1878,Bowden, Cheshire > TASKER,Ellen,U,,26,1875,Bowden, Cheshire > TASKER,Florence,U,,25,1876,Bowden, Cheshire >

HI, I would be very, very grateful if someone could please look up the following in the 1891 census if possible please. This just might break down my brick wall. I can research in Birmingham in return. Many thanks, Sue. MORRIN > RG12/2883 86a > WYER > RG12/2883 55b Research Interests:- Liverpool and Lancashire CALLAN, DILLON, GARVEY, Ann HOLT b1835, HUGHES, LEAH, LEEKE, MANSURE, McLENNON, ROBERTS, THOMPSON, UPTON, WALSHAM Norfolk:- WYER and/or variants - early 1800's. Wirral:- Henry CLARE, DILLON, EDMONDSON, MOLLARD, MORRIN, WILLIAMS (Mary born 1822 Wales), WYER/WYRE West Yorkshire:- BARRACLOUGH, BARRON/BERRON, BASTOW, BLAMIRES, CHARLESWORTH, CLOUGH, EDMONDSON, FIRTH, GARTHWAITE, ILLINGWORTH, JOWETT, KNOWLES, LUMB, MITCHELL, NEWSOME, PRIESTLEY

Dear Justine, 1891 Hoose Census Schedule 161 Market Street James Holmes, Head, M, 39, Bricksetter Labourer, Employed, Cheshire, Hoose Elizabeth Holmes, Wife, M, 38, Cheshire, Moreton Annie Holmes, Daur, S, 19, General Servant, Employed, Cheshire, Hoose Frances Holmes, Daur, S. 16, Lanc., West Houghton Peter Holmes, Son, 15, Cheshire, Hoose May Holmes, Daur, 8, Scholar, Cheshire, Hoose Ellen Holmes, Daur, 4, Scholar, Cheshire, Hoose Joseph Holmes, Son, 6(?), Scholar, Cheshire, Hoose William Holmes, Son, 1, Cheshire, Hoose Hope this helps, Yvonne