Source Bass, Ratcliff & Gretton, limited Excursion to Liverpool and New Brighton Friday July 15, 1904 Hotels & Vaults etc where 'Bass' was kept at New Brighton and environs Birkenhead Mrs Morris - Queens Hotel AT Salvidge and Co - Argyle Sqr T Whittaker - Market Sqr T Slater - Oxon Rd WJ Milton - Castle - Chester Str T Ovington - Parr Hotel Charing Cross Mrs Denham - Queens Hotel - Tranmere Mrs Cavers - Fleece Inn - Tranmere New Brighton John Fare - Queens Hotel on shore Str Mrs Roberts - New Brighton Hotel - Victoria Rd Mrs J Fagen - Railway Hotel - Victoria Rd W Vowles - Ferry Hotel W Martin - Commercial Hotel - Victoria Rd Mrs Kinghan - Travellers Rest - on Shore Liscard , Egremont, and Seacombe W Lodge - Primrose House - Liscard W Denham - Kings Arms - Liscard FP Arthur - Magazines - Liscard W Wright - Boot Inn - Liscard J Turner - Magazines -Liscard I have omitted the establishments registered to Companies. If there is sufficient interest I will republish the list to include all establishments listed. There are approximately 50 establishments mentioned for Liverpool City Centre. Again, if there is sufficient interest I complete and publish that list to. Specific lookup welcome. Andrew Sutton Cupar, Fife ICQ# 138754303

John I have obtained several certificates for Birkenhead direct from the Register Office in Birkenhead without any problems. I mail a bank money order made out in sterling along with a stamped self addressed envelope. Jim Smith Vancouver Canada >X-Message: #5 >Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 19:56:20 -0500 >From: "John Farrall" <jfarrall@cox.rr.com> >To: BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <000201c17872$a9088fc0$e3dda818@cox.rr.com> >Subject: [BKHD] Certificates >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="Windows-1252" > >Anyone, > I am preparing to send several checks to obtain marriage and birth certificates. The only information I have are from the CRO file designators, which leave me in a bind. Two birth certificates are for two uncles and the

Found in the Hawarden (Flint) Parish Church Records, the following: Baptism August 15th 1863. Born at Birkenhead on July 11 1863, Rowley Vere son of Hugh and Elizabeth FENTON, of Aston Hall, fathers occupation Wiremaker, privately baptised in the presence of his mother. In the margin noted that the mothers maiden name DUMBELL Regards Marjorie Mealor Australia.

unsubscribe Whilst my computer is being mended See you soon. Denise Kent, UK Researching:- BATHGATE - Cheshire, Scotland and Essex BUTLAND - Tenby, Pembrokeshire CLARKE - Cheshire and Northants FABER - London, Middlesex and Essex JONES - Haverfordwest, Pembrokeshire MORRISSEY - Templemore, Ireland PURCELL - Dublin, Ireland O'BRIEN - Dublin, Ireland ROBINSON - Cork, Ireland THELWELL - Cheshire TOWN - Sussex

So sorry the address of the website came out wrongly. I checked it before sending the message and was sure I had got it right! However, here it is correctly: http://www.mimas.ac.uk/~mfscprdb Hazel ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Farrall" <jfarrall@cox.rr.com> To: <BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 28 November 2001 01:23 Subject: Re: [BKHD] BEBINGTON Surname > Hazel, > The URL does not work. Cheers, John > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Hazel Fuller" <hazel@fullerh.freeserve.co.uk> > To: <BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 5:15 PM > Subject: Re: [BKHD] BEBINGTON Surname > > > > I don't know if this young man is related to Mary Bebington but on the > > Mimas site (online parish records for the Wirral) there is a christening > > of a James Bebington in 1847. His parents are given as Elizabeth and > > James Bebington and the father's occupation is Publican in Liverpool. > > > > The Mimas site is extremely helpful to all seekers of family in a large > > area of the Wirral and if you haven't already found it the address is: > > www.mimas.ac/~mfscprdb > > > > Hazel Fuller > > Researching in and around Bebington: Ledsome/sham; Williams; Rimmer; > > Dodd; White; Go(u)ldson; Roberts; Owens > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John Farrall" <jfarrall@cox.rr.com> > > To: <BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: 26 November 2001 20:49 > > Subject: [BKHD] BEBINGTON Surname > > > > > > > Greetings Birkenhead Members, > > > I would greatly appreciate learning any information about my great > > grandmother Mary BEBINGTON Farrall. The only information I have is from > > news articles celebrating her 100th birthday and receiving a telegram > > from King George VI. The articles state that Mary BEBINGTON was born on > > 6 June 1850, in Lower Bebington. (She died 11 October 1950 in Oxton, > > Birkenhead). Since Mary was born before births had to be registered, I > > am at a loss to find her birth parents. I asked one of your members to > > do a search of the 1851 census for Bebington, from that period and this > > is what she found: > > > I had a look for your Mary > > > Bebington on the 1851 and this came to light:- > > > > > > Thos Green, Head Married 36 Agricultural Labourer born Bebington > > > Hannah Green, married 40 born Stockport > > > Ellen Green daughter age 7 born Bebington > > > Robert Green son age 4 born Bebington > > > Thomas Green son age 2 born Bebington > > > John Langley stepson age 18 Agricultural labourer born Birkenhead > > > Ann Langley stepdaughter age 12 born Lancashire Liverpool > > > MARY BEBINGTON nurs(e) child age 9 months. On the line above for Ann > > > Langley place of birth is Lancashire Liverpool. For Mary the > > enumerator > > > has put a ditto under Lancashire and then a capital R? Not sure what > > that > > > means. > > > > > > There are only two Bebington names on the census - the other a > > > George is lodging in Birkenhead. > > > > > > Also what is interesting is that this family is at the same reference > > and > > > page number as your Whitehead family so must have lived very close. > > The > > > Greens are at the bottom of page 111a and top of 111b then one house > > > uninhabited, a Davies family and then the Whitehead family. No > > address as > > > such is given except for Bebington Township. > > > > > > For the record, Mary BEBINGTON is my paternal great grandmother and > > Alice WHITEHEAD (above) is my maternal great grandmother, who lived > > three residences apart. > > > > > > Obviously, my questions are many. First and foremost is who were > > Mary's parents. Since she grew up in Lower Bebington, perhaps she was > > baptized at St Andrews (CofE). What is significance of a "nurse child"? > > If she is an orphan would she be given the name of the town for record > > purposes - is this normal? > > > > > > As one can see from the above, it is difficult to decipher there > > information. I cannot locate the birth parents of either my great > > grandfather John FARRALL (from Manley) or my great grandmother Mary > > BEBINGTON (FROM Bebington) John and Mary were married in 1872: > > > > > > Cheshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1871 to 1875 > > > FARRALL John - BEBINGTON Mary Tranmere, St. Catherine WR BK16/1/364 > > > > > > Any information the readers may find is greatly appreciated. Thanks > > again. > > > > > > Cheers and regards, > > > John Farrall > > > Burke, Virginia > > > > > > Researching: FARRALL, DAWSON, BEBINGTON, BRAITHWAITE, WHITEHEAD, > > SWINDLES, WHITE, HALL > > > > > > ______________________________ > > > > > > ============================== > > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237 > > > > ______________________________

Anyone, I am preparing to send several checks to obtain marriage and birth certificates. The only information I have are from the CRO file designators, which leave me in a bind. Two birth certificates are for two uncles and the birth location is "BIRKENHEAD". Since it will cost me 10 Pounds Sterling just to obtain a check, to which office to I address the check? I have to obtain 3 checks for three offices = 30 pounds ( that is without the cost of the certificates). Unfortunately, Wirral is one of those backwater areas that does not have much information on the Cheshire BDM database and does not accept credit cards. I have many births, deaths, and marriages in the Wirral area that do not exist on the Cheshire BDM database. Other contributors on CHESHIRE-L and BIRKENHEAD-L have provided clues for the location of the information - Quarter timeframes in "Birkenhead" and "Wirral" - mostly obtained from London. Any advice? John Farrall Burke, Virginia

Hello List, Could I have someone with a little more experience , then my six mounths help me work though this. After receiving my G Grandparents marriage cert. I found I had followed a line of Peter FULTON as being my Thomas's father. OK that I found was wrong. It says James FULTON is the father of my Thomas (married to Rebecca (nee FOGG) Going back though my notes I have from SKS (Marjorie MEALOR) the 1851 census. were I have a James FULTON at 32 yrs (1919)born Hoylake. wife to Margaret FULTON 30 yrs. (1821) Hoylake with a son Thomas FULTON 2 mos or 2 yrs born in Birkenhead. (And other children ) Now the Peter I had been following was from Hoose had a brother James FULTON born Hoylake 1919. I think this James in the 1851 census could well be Peters brother ? Now my question what are the chances of two Thomas FULTON being born in Birkenhead (I have 1852 on the 1881 census and 1851 (If 2 mos is right ) on the 1851 census. With the father's name of James. I don,t want to go down the wrong path again.(I think this could be my James ) I would like to send for a birth cert. But not having a Qt. for this birth or a Mothers name. How can I find out if this is indeed my Thomas FULTON. (If my James is Peters brothers I,m not too far off line ) with the searching that I have done.Your help would be very much appreciated. Pat and Bill (/)__(/) (= ',' =) (")__(") pat0bill@telusplanet.net

Hello To All, I now have a new name to add to my list and would like to make contact with anyone who is researching the name of POTTER. William POTTER was born in 1844 Liverpool Lancashire, he married Margaret ANDERSON in Wirral. At the time of the 1881 census they had 3 children who were all born in Rock Ferry. Frederick born 1874, Stuart born 1877 and Ethel born 1880. Anne.

Hi Hazel, How do I access the Mimas site, your url does'nt work for me ?. Sue. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hazel Fuller" <hazel@fullerh.freeserve.co.uk> To: <BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 10:16 PM Subject: Re: [BKHD] BEBINGTON Surname > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Hazel Fuller" <hazel@fullerh.freeserve.co.uk> > To: "John Farrall" <jfarrall@cox.rr.com>; <BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: 27 November 2001 22:15 > Subject: Re: [BKHD] BEBINGTON Surname > > > > I don't know if this young man is related to Mary Bebington but on the > > Mimas site (online parish records for the Wirral) there is a > christening > > of a James Bebington in 1847. His parents are given as Elizabeth and > > James Bebington and the father's occupation is Publican in Liverpool. > > > > The Mimas site is extremely helpful to all seekers of family in a > large > > area of the Wirral and if you haven't already found it the address is: > > www.mimas.ac/~mfscprdb > > > > Hazel Fuller > > Researching in and around Bebington: Ledsome/sham; Williams; Rimmer; > > Dodd; White; Go(u)ldson; Roberts; Owens > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John Farrall" <jfarrall@cox.rr.com> > > To: <BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: 26 November 2001 20:49 > > Subject: [BKHD] BEBINGTON Surname > > > > > > > Greetings Birkenhead Members, > > > I would greatly appreciate learning any information about my > great > > grandmother Mary BEBINGTON Farrall. The only information I have is > from > > news articles celebrating her 100th birthday and receiving a telegram > > from King George VI. The articles state that Mary BEBINGTON was born > on > > 6 June 1850, in Lower Bebington. (She died 11 October 1950 in Oxton, > > Birkenhead). Since Mary was born before births had to be registered, I > > am at a loss to find her birth parents. I asked one of your members > to > > do a search of the 1851 census for Bebington, from that period and > this > > is what she found: > > > I had a look for your Mary > > > Bebington on the 1851 and this came to light:- > > > > > > Thos Green, Head Married 36 Agricultural Labourer born Bebington > > > Hannah Green, married 40 born Stockport > > > Ellen Green daughter age 7 born Bebington > > > Robert Green son age 4 born Bebington > > > Thomas Green son age 2 born Bebington > > > John Langley stepson age 18 Agricultural labourer born Birkenhead > > > Ann Langley stepdaughter age 12 born Lancashire Liverpool > > > MARY BEBINGTON nurs(e) child age 9 months. On the line above for > Ann > > > Langley place of birth is Lancashire Liverpool. For Mary the > > enumerator > > > has put a ditto under Lancashire and then a capital R? Not sure > what > > that > > > means. > > > > > > There are only two Bebington names on the census - the other a > > > George is lodging in Birkenhead. > > > > > > Also what is interesting is that this family is at the same > reference > > and > > > page number as your Whitehead family so must have lived very close. > > The > > > Greens are at the bottom of page 111a and top of 111b then one house > > > uninhabited, a Davies family and then the Whitehead family. No > > address as > > > such is given except for Bebington Township. > > > > > > For the record, Mary BEBINGTON is my paternal great grandmother and > > Alice WHITEHEAD (above) is my maternal great grandmother, who lived > > three residences apart. > > > > > > Obviously, my questions are many. First and foremost is who > were > > Mary's parents. Since she grew up in Lower Bebington, perhaps she was > > baptized at St Andrews (CofE). What is significance of a "nurse > child"? > > If she is an orphan would she be given the name of the town for record > > purposes - is this normal? > > > > > > As one can see from the above, it is difficult to decipher there > > information. I cannot locate the birth parents of either my great > > grandfather John FARRALL (from Manley) or my great grandmother Mary > > BEBINGTON (FROM Bebington) John and Mary were married in 1872: > > > > > > Cheshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1871 to 1875 > > > FARRALL John - BEBINGTON Mary Tranmere, St. Catherine WR BK16/1/364 > > > > > > Any information the readers may find is greatly appreciated. Thanks > > again. > > > > > > Cheers and regards, > > > John Farrall > > > Burke, Virginia > > > > > > Researching: FARRALL, DAWSON, BEBINGTON, BRAITHWAITE, WHITEHEAD, > > SWINDLES, WHITE, HALL > > > > > > ______________________________ > > > > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Hazel Fuller" <hazel@fullerh.freeserve.co.uk> To: "John Farrall" <jfarrall@cox.rr.com>; <BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 27 November 2001 22:15 Subject: Re: [BKHD] BEBINGTON Surname > I don't know if this young man is related to Mary Bebington but on the > Mimas site (online parish records for the Wirral) there is a christening > of a James Bebington in 1847. His parents are given as Elizabeth and > James Bebington and the father's occupation is Publican in Liverpool. > > The Mimas site is extremely helpful to all seekers of family in a large > area of the Wirral and if you haven't already found it the address is: > www.mimas.ac/~mfscprdb > > Hazel Fuller > Researching in and around Bebington: Ledsome/sham; Williams; Rimmer; > Dodd; White; Go(u)ldson; Roberts; Owens > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Farrall" <jfarrall@cox.rr.com> > To: <BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: 26 November 2001 20:49 > Subject: [BKHD] BEBINGTON Surname > > > > Greetings Birkenhead Members, > > I would greatly appreciate learning any information about my great > grandmother Mary BEBINGTON Farrall. The only information I have is from > news articles celebrating her 100th birthday and receiving a telegram > from King George VI. The articles state that Mary BEBINGTON was born on > 6 June 1850, in Lower Bebington. (She died 11 October 1950 in Oxton, > Birkenhead). Since Mary was born before births had to be registered, I > am at a loss to find her birth parents. I asked one of your members to > do a search of the 1851 census for Bebington, from that period and this > is what she found: > > I had a look for your Mary > > Bebington on the 1851 and this came to light:- > > > > Thos Green, Head Married 36 Agricultural Labourer born Bebington > > Hannah Green, married 40 born Stockport > > Ellen Green daughter age 7 born Bebington > > Robert Green son age 4 born Bebington > > Thomas Green son age 2 born Bebington > > John Langley stepson age 18 Agricultural labourer born Birkenhead > > Ann Langley stepdaughter age 12 born Lancashire Liverpool > > MARY BEBINGTON nurs(e) child age 9 months. On the line above for Ann > > Langley place of birth is Lancashire Liverpool. For Mary the > enumerator > > has put a ditto under Lancashire and then a capital R? Not sure what > that > > means. > > > > There are only two Bebington names on the census - the other a > > George is lodging in Birkenhead. > > > > Also what is interesting is that this family is at the same reference > and > > page number as your Whitehead family so must have lived very close. > The > > Greens are at the bottom of page 111a and top of 111b then one house > > uninhabited, a Davies family and then the Whitehead family. No > address as > > such is given except for Bebington Township. > > > > For the record, Mary BEBINGTON is my paternal great grandmother and > Alice WHITEHEAD (above) is my maternal great grandmother, who lived > three residences apart. > > > > Obviously, my questions are many. First and foremost is who were > Mary's parents. Since she grew up in Lower Bebington, perhaps she was > baptized at St Andrews (CofE). What is significance of a "nurse child"? > If she is an orphan would she be given the name of the town for record > purposes - is this normal? > > > > As one can see from the above, it is difficult to decipher there > information. I cannot locate the birth parents of either my great > grandfather John FARRALL (from Manley) or my great grandmother Mary > BEBINGTON (FROM Bebington) John and Mary were married in 1872: > > > > Cheshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1871 to 1875 > > FARRALL John - BEBINGTON Mary Tranmere, St. Catherine WR BK16/1/364 > > > > Any information the readers may find is greatly appreciated. Thanks > again. > > > > Cheers and regards, > > John Farrall > > Burke, Virginia > > > > Researching: FARRALL, DAWSON, BEBINGTON, BRAITHWAITE, WHITEHEAD, > SWINDLES, WHITE, HALL > > > > ______________________________ >

I don't know if this young man is related to Mary Bebington but on the Mimas site (online parish records for the Wirral) there is a christening of a James Bebington in 1847. His parents are given as Elizabeth and James Bebington and the father's occupation is Publican in Liverpool. The Mimas site is extremely helpful to all seekers of family in a large area of the Wirral and if you haven't already found it the address is: www.mimas.ac/~mfscprdb Hazel Fuller Researching in and around Bebington: Ledsome/sham; Williams; Rimmer; Dodd; White; Go(u)ldson; Roberts; Owens ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Farrall" <jfarrall@cox.rr.com> To: <BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 26 November 2001 20:49 Subject: [BKHD] BEBINGTON Surname > Greetings Birkenhead Members, > I would greatly appreciate learning any information about my great grandmother Mary BEBINGTON Farrall. The only information I have is from news articles celebrating her 100th birthday and receiving a telegram from King George VI. The articles state that Mary BEBINGTON was born on 6 June 1850, in Lower Bebington. (She died 11 October 1950 in Oxton, Birkenhead). Since Mary was born before births had to be registered, I am at a loss to find her birth parents. I asked one of your members to do a search of the 1851 census for Bebington, from that period and this is what she found: > I had a look for your Mary > Bebington on the 1851 and this came to light:- > > Thos Green, Head Married 36 Agricultural Labourer born Bebington > Hannah Green, married 40 born Stockport > Ellen Green daughter age 7 born Bebington > Robert Green son age 4 born Bebington > Thomas Green son age 2 born Bebington > John Langley stepson age 18 Agricultural labourer born Birkenhead > Ann Langley stepdaughter age 12 born Lancashire Liverpool > MARY BEBINGTON nurs(e) child age 9 months. On the line above for Ann > Langley place of birth is Lancashire Liverpool. For Mary the enumerator > has put a ditto under Lancashire and then a capital R? Not sure what that > means. > > There are only two Bebington names on the census - the other a > George is lodging in Birkenhead. > > Also what is interesting is that this family is at the same reference and > page number as your Whitehead family so must have lived very close. The > Greens are at the bottom of page 111a and top of 111b then one house > uninhabited, a Davies family and then the Whitehead family. No address as > such is given except for Bebington Township. > > For the record, Mary BEBINGTON is my paternal great grandmother and Alice WHITEHEAD (above) is my maternal great grandmother, who lived three residences apart. > > Obviously, my questions are many. First and foremost is who were Mary's parents. Since she grew up in Lower Bebington, perhaps she was baptized at St Andrews (CofE). What is significance of a "nurse child"? If she is an orphan would she be given the name of the town for record purposes - is this normal? > > As one can see from the above, it is difficult to decipher there information. I cannot locate the birth parents of either my great grandfather John FARRALL (from Manley) or my great grandmother Mary BEBINGTON (FROM Bebington) John and Mary were married in 1872: > > Cheshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1871 to 1875 > FARRALL John - BEBINGTON Mary Tranmere, St. Catherine WR BK16/1/364 > > Any information the readers may find is greatly appreciated. Thanks again. > > Cheers and regards, > John Farrall > Burke, Virginia > > Researching: FARRALL, DAWSON, BEBINGTON, BRAITHWAITE, WHITEHEAD, SWINDLES, WHITE, HALL > > ______________________________

Hazel, The URL does not work. Cheers, John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hazel Fuller" <hazel@fullerh.freeserve.co.uk> To: <BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [BKHD] BEBINGTON Surname > I don't know if this young man is related to Mary Bebington but on the > Mimas site (online parish records for the Wirral) there is a christening > of a James Bebington in 1847. His parents are given as Elizabeth and > James Bebington and the father's occupation is Publican in Liverpool. > > The Mimas site is extremely helpful to all seekers of family in a large > area of the Wirral and if you haven't already found it the address is: > www.mimas.ac/~mfscprdb > > Hazel Fuller > Researching in and around Bebington: Ledsome/sham; Williams; Rimmer; > Dodd; White; Go(u)ldson; Roberts; Owens > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Farrall" <jfarrall@cox.rr.com> > To: <BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: 26 November 2001 20:49 > Subject: [BKHD] BEBINGTON Surname > > > > Greetings Birkenhead Members, > > I would greatly appreciate learning any information about my great > grandmother Mary BEBINGTON Farrall. The only information I have is from > news articles celebrating her 100th birthday and receiving a telegram > from King George VI. The articles state that Mary BEBINGTON was born on > 6 June 1850, in Lower Bebington. (She died 11 October 1950 in Oxton, > Birkenhead). Since Mary was born before births had to be registered, I > am at a loss to find her birth parents. I asked one of your members to > do a search of the 1851 census for Bebington, from that period and this > is what she found: > > I had a look for your Mary > > Bebington on the 1851 and this came to light:- > > > > Thos Green, Head Married 36 Agricultural Labourer born Bebington > > Hannah Green, married 40 born Stockport > > Ellen Green daughter age 7 born Bebington > > Robert Green son age 4 born Bebington > > Thomas Green son age 2 born Bebington > > John Langley stepson age 18 Agricultural labourer born Birkenhead > > Ann Langley stepdaughter age 12 born Lancashire Liverpool > > MARY BEBINGTON nurs(e) child age 9 months. On the line above for Ann > > Langley place of birth is Lancashire Liverpool. For Mary the > enumerator > > has put a ditto under Lancashire and then a capital R? Not sure what > that > > means. > > > > There are only two Bebington names on the census - the other a > > George is lodging in Birkenhead. > > > > Also what is interesting is that this family is at the same reference > and > > page number as your Whitehead family so must have lived very close. > The > > Greens are at the bottom of page 111a and top of 111b then one house > > uninhabited, a Davies family and then the Whitehead family. No > address as > > such is given except for Bebington Township. > > > > For the record, Mary BEBINGTON is my paternal great grandmother and > Alice WHITEHEAD (above) is my maternal great grandmother, who lived > three residences apart. > > > > Obviously, my questions are many. First and foremost is who were > Mary's parents. Since she grew up in Lower Bebington, perhaps she was > baptized at St Andrews (CofE). What is significance of a "nurse child"? > If she is an orphan would she be given the name of the town for record > purposes - is this normal? > > > > As one can see from the above, it is difficult to decipher there > information. I cannot locate the birth parents of either my great > grandfather John FARRALL (from Manley) or my great grandmother Mary > BEBINGTON (FROM Bebington) John and Mary were married in 1872: > > > > Cheshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1871 to 1875 > > FARRALL John - BEBINGTON Mary Tranmere, St. Catherine WR BK16/1/364 > > > > Any information the readers may find is greatly appreciated. Thanks > again. > > > > Cheers and regards, > > John Farrall > > Burke, Virginia > > > > Researching: FARRALL, DAWSON, BEBINGTON, BRAITHWAITE, WHITEHEAD, > SWINDLES, WHITE, HALL > > > > ______________________________ > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237 >

Hello List. On my James FULTON, I have found one on LDS IGI site it has James FULTON christening June 23, 1829. Wesleyan, Stalybridge. Cheshire, Eng. with parents Hugh FULTON and Margart. (Don,t know if this is mine )?? Now my next question. Is this place anywere near Birkenhead ?? I have looked on the Multi Map. But I,m none the wiser. sorry. Pat and Bill (/)__(/) (= ',' =) (")__(") pat0bill@telusplanet.net

Hazel, Thank you for the information for Mary Bebington. Being on the other side of the pond, could you explain the term "publican"? My dictionary says "chiefly British- the licensee of the public house" (???) Does this mean that he was a realtor? Would this require him to leave a child with a "babysitter" for an extended period of time? Regards, John from Burke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hazel Fuller" <hazel@fullerh.freeserve.co.uk> To: <BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [BKHD] BEBINGTON Surname > I don't know if this young man is related to Mary Bebington but on the > Mimas site (online parish records for the Wirral) there is a christening > of a James Bebington in 1847. His parents are given as Elizabeth and > James Bebington and the father's occupation is Publican in Liverpool. > > The Mimas site is extremely helpful to all seekers of family in a large > area of the Wirral and if you haven't already found it the address is: > www.mimas.ac/~mfscprdb > > Hazel Fuller > Researching in and around Bebington: Ledsome/sham; Williams; Rimmer; > Dodd; White; Go(u)ldson; Roberts; Owens > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Farrall" <jfarrall@cox.rr.com> > To: <BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: 26 November 2001 20:49 > Subject: [BKHD] BEBINGTON Surname > > > > Greetings Birkenhead Members, > > I would greatly appreciate learning any information about my great > grandmother Mary BEBINGTON Farrall. The only information I have is from > news articles celebrating her 100th birthday and receiving a telegram > from King George VI. The articles state that Mary BEBINGTON was born on > 6 June 1850, in Lower Bebington. (She died 11 October 1950 in Oxton, > Birkenhead). Since Mary was born before births had to be registered, I > am at a loss to find her birth parents. I asked one of your members to > do a search of the 1851 census for Bebington, from that period and this > is what she found: > > I had a look for your Mary > > Bebington on the 1851 and this came to light:- > > > > Thos Green, Head Married 36 Agricultural Labourer born Bebington > > Hannah Green, married 40 born Stockport > > Ellen Green daughter age 7 born Bebington > > Robert Green son age 4 born Bebington > > Thomas Green son age 2 born Bebington > > John Langley stepson age 18 Agricultural labourer born Birkenhead > > Ann Langley stepdaughter age 12 born Lancashire Liverpool > > MARY BEBINGTON nurs(e) child age 9 months. On the line above for Ann > > Langley place of birth is Lancashire Liverpool. For Mary the > enumerator > > has put a ditto under Lancashire and then a capital R? Not sure what > that > > means. > > > > There are only two Bebington names on the census - the other a > > George is lodging in Birkenhead. > > > > Also what is interesting is that this family is at the same reference > and > > page number as your Whitehead family so must have lived very close. > The > > Greens are at the bottom of page 111a and top of 111b then one house > > uninhabited, a Davies family and then the Whitehead family. No > address as > > such is given except for Bebington Township. > > > > For the record, Mary BEBINGTON is my paternal great grandmother and > Alice WHITEHEAD (above) is my maternal great grandmother, who lived > three residences apart. > > > > Obviously, my questions are many. First and foremost is who were > Mary's parents. Since she grew up in Lower Bebington, perhaps she was > baptized at St Andrews (CofE). What is significance of a "nurse child"? > If she is an orphan would she be given the name of the town for record > purposes - is this normal? > > > > As one can see from the above, it is difficult to decipher there > information. I cannot locate the birth parents of either my great > grandfather John FARRALL (from Manley) or my great grandmother Mary > BEBINGTON (FROM Bebington) John and Mary were married in 1872: > > > > Cheshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1871 to 1875 > > FARRALL John - BEBINGTON Mary Tranmere, St. Catherine WR BK16/1/364 > > > > Any information the readers may find is greatly appreciated. Thanks > again. > > > > Cheers and regards, > > John Farrall > > Burke, Virginia > > > > Researching: FARRALL, DAWSON, BEBINGTON, BRAITHWAITE, WHITEHEAD, > SWINDLES, WHITE, HALL > > > > ______________________________ > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237 >

Hello List, I see you all scurrying to try and help me. And this is truely appreciated. I have Rebecca and Thomas FULTON in the 1881 census. I also have them on IGI familysearch. Thomas being born 1852.. So I would think his father JAMES would be about 1830 ?? So that would put James about 51 in 1881. If he was still alive ?? On the cert. it just says Thomas was full age. Rebecca miner (She was 19 according to the 1881 census.Both Thomas and his Father were carters. It gives no Mothers names. And no perents address. This it witnessed by John HARDING and Elizabeth HARDING. (could be family or just friends )?? I have to find James FULTON ~grin ~. I guess the only other way is to send for Thomas FULTON birth cert. after Christmas. But there I just have 1852 from the census. I have looked in the Cheshire BMD and also the IGI. Just nothing that I can find. Except Thomas and Rebecca marriage. Thank You so much everyone for trying to help. Lets crack this branch. Pat and Bill (/)__(/) (= ',' =) (")__(") pat0bill@telusplanet.net

Hello List, I am down in the dumps today. I received my G Grandparents marriage cert. You guessed it. I have to start all over. Now it says my G Grandparents were Thomas FULTON and Rebecca (nee FOGG ) married Jan 21, 1877 Saint Nicholas, Liverpool. It says they lived at it looks like Norman St, (I would think this to be in Birkenhead )as that is were Thomas was born. Rebecca was born in Seacombe, Cheshire. But now there parents were James FULTON. and Thomas FOGG. If you feel you can help me get another start on my James FULTON , likely in Birkenhead .It dose not tell me on the cert. or give me his wifes name. I would truely appreciate a new start. Thank You So Much. Pat and Bill (/)__(/) (= ',' =) (")__(") pat0bill@telusplanet.net

Hi All, I would like to publicly thank Peter and Caryl for their help in finding my cousin Len Johnstone and his family nr Perth in Australia. Within half an hour of posting yesterday, Peter had phoned the family and let them know of my existence, they emailed me and today I spoke to Len and Madge for an hour. I am absloutely chuffed for my Mum as well, she lives in Liverpool and thought she had no rellies left after the death of her twin in 1991. Len tells me there are loads of cousins in and around the Wirral still, so loads of work to do. Many, many thanks to you and the list. Sue. Research Interests:- Liverpool and Lancashire CALLAN, DILLON, GARVEY, Ann HOLT b1835, HUGHES, LEAH, LEEKE, MANSURE, McLENNON, ROBERTS, THOMPSON, UPTON, WALSHAM Norfolk:- WYER and/or variants - early 1800's. Wirral:- Henry CLARE, DILLON, EDMONDSON, MORRIN, WYER/WYRE Yorkshire:- BARRACLOUGH, BARRON/BERRON, BASTOW, BLAMIRES, CHARLESWORTH, CLOUGH, EDMONDSON, FIRTH, GARTHWAITE, ILLINGWORTH, JOWETT, KNOWLES, LUMB, MITCHELL, NEWSOME, PRIESTLEY

Re Sue Rylands posting: "Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 Subject: [BKHD] JOHNSTONE in Australia Hi All, I would like to publicly thank Peter and Caryl for their help in finding my cousin Len Johnstone and his family nr Perth in Australia. Within half an hour of posting yesterday, Peter had phoned the family and let them know of my existence, they emailed me and today I spoke to Len and Madge for an hour.... Len tells me there are loads of cousins in and around the Wirral still, so loads of work to do. Many, many thanks to you and the list. Sue." ***************************************** I read Sue Rylands letter with excitement and wondered if I could have such luck for I am hoping there might be some Fairclough descendents from my family still living in the Birkenhead area. Last year I found some of the Fairclough names in the 411 pages and sent out 22 letters to B'head & surrounding area with no luck. Only about 5 replied and they weren't related that I could see. Perhaps someone could even tell me how to go about posting a letter to the B'head newspaper, i.e. their address, the charge, etc. I posted my initial info when I joined this list a couple of weeks ago but have some further details that might be further clues. I am looking for descendents of Henry Fairclough (& Ellen Potts Williams), a miller, baker and shopkeeper (corn & flour dealer) in Birkenhead. Their children were all born in Birkenhead. They were: John Robert (1869), Henry (1872), Mary Ellen (1873), William Henry (1875), Edith (1878), Ernest Richard (1880), Maggie Hoylake, my grandmother (1882), Charles Harold (1885) and Lily (1886). It is the descendents of some of these families below that I am hoping to find. John Robert 1870-?, had 6 children: Doris (1895-?)-married Ron BUCK & moved to Australia, Laura (1897-?, was a VAD in WW1 ), Amy (1898-?, married a ?HAIRD), Jack (1904-?), Harold (1906-?), twins Harry & Nellie (1909-?). Ernest Richard had Edith, Ernest, Lillian & ?Laura. I believe they all stayed in Birkenhead. I have a small card, from Aug. 4, 1930 that has written on it "Edith Fairclough, -with Mr. & Mrs. Harold Jones' compliments-12 Iris Ave. Birkenhead" Charles Harold's youngest child was Edward (1916-?1943). He was killed in WW11. I have yet to find him on the CWG Commission site for some reason although I found Charles H. who was killed in WW1. Edward married a Peggy? prior to 1938 and they had 2-3 children. I would really love to find these children or their descendents. Charles H.'s 3 oldest children were sent to an orphanage after he was killed for his wife died a year later. I was told it was Christ Church Orphanage. Would anyone know if there was such a place by that name or any further information about it? I have been in touch with descendents of these families but they know nothing about the orphanage or Eddie. That's the basic information that I have about this family at this point in time. If anyone can help steer me in the right direction to obtain further clues I would be most appreciative. Sandy Stokes in Canada

Someone asked about Cefn Coed N Wales? their Birkenhead ancestor was born there? I live in N Wales, as far as I'm aware there isn't a Cefn Coed in N Wales Looked in the gazeteer, map and the web, this is the only Cefn Coed I found, it's in S Wales: http://www.brecon-beacons.com/places-cefn-coed.htm However Cefn Coed is right on the A470 road that leads directly to Glan Conwy in N Wales Maybe this is the one? Caryl

Thank you Caryl for the information on Cefn Coed, It could possibly be just what I am looking for. I appreciate your help. Joyce (Texas).