Hi Lorraine, My eldest son is in England nursing is there any way we can look at council records to see if we can pinpoint the time that they were registrated. I am 62 years of age and the only memory I have is of a Uncle Nick at the later end of World War 2.I have a complete family of Lacy's that I know nothing about. Thank you for your response. Best Wishes. Ron. ----- Original Message ----- From: <LORRAINELKEILAUS@aol.com> To: <BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 9:14 PM Subject: Re: [BKHD] New Subscriber. > Hi > I spoke to my brother who is a lot older than me and he said that they must > have moved very early on as he doesn't recvollect the name. I f there is > anything you wish to know about the area please contact me and I will tell > you. > > Lorraine > > > ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== > Search the archives of Birkenhead-L > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/BIRKENHEAD.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

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----- Original Message ----- From: <LORRAINELKEILAUS@aol.com> To: <BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 8:21 PM Subject: Re: [BKHD] New Subscriber. > Hi > What year did they live in School Place,I was brought up at no 24 but I can't > recollect the name |Lacy. > Lorraine > > Hi Lorraine, On my Mother birth certificate it said she was born 1912 10 School Place. Good to hear from some-one in the same area. Ron. > ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== > Search the archives of Birkenhead-L > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/BIRKENHEAD.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

Hi Lorraine, They lived there approx. 1912 as my mother has that address on her birth certificate. It is wonderful to hear from some-one who knows the area. Thank you for your email. Ron. ----- Original Message ----- From: <LORRAINELKEILAUS@aol.com> To: <BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 8:21 PM Subject: Re: [BKHD] New Subscriber. > Hi > What year did they live in School Place,I was brought up at no 24 but I can't > recollect the name |Lacy. > Lorraine > > > ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== > Search the archives of Birkenhead-L > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/BIRKENHEAD.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

Hi Listers, My name is Ron,I am trying to trace my family who came from Birkenhead. Grand-father Nicholas Lacy married to Mary Ellen O'Connor about 1903. I believe they had 5 children. Sylvestor. John. Ellen Mary. who was my Mother born 1912. Kath. Nick. Last known address 10 School Place Birkenhead. Love to hear from any-one,related to this family. I believe Nicholas Lacy worked in the shipyard there. Thank you. Ron McKeon. Queensland Australia..

My husbands family are Catholics, and I have found details of them at St Winefrid's RC Church Neston. They were living in Raby from about 1850. I cannot find a marriage in around 1850 for RICHARD CATON and ANN MAHER or RYAN, as it is not listed in the BMD Indexes, and was not at St Winefrid's. Also I am looking for the baptism of RICHARD CATON about 1820. As St Winefrid's was not around in 1820, would anyone have any suggestions as to where he might be baptised? I have looked at the Cheshire Parish Churches site and cannot find a Catholic Church listed at that time. Incidently, none of this family appear on Census records. I have been through the Wirral and Birkenhead CD roms page by page and they just are not there, despite having children baptised at Neston within a few days of the census. I would be very grateful for any suggestions. June Clough

LORRAINE Do you know if you can pay someone to look up records in the Town Hall if (like me) you are very far away?? Yukon/Canada Heather ----- Original Message ----- From: <LORRAINELKEILAUS@aol.com> To: <BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 5:35 AM Subject: Re: [BKHD] New Subscriber. > Hi > The only way he could do that is to visit Birkenhead Town Hall where they > have all the old records in the archives they have school records and > everything. > Lorraine > > > ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== > Search the archives of Birkenhead-L > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/BIRKENHEAD.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

Hello I am trying to trace my family in Birkenhead. James Warrington and Annie had a daughter Dianne (sp) abt. 1939. Annie's mother and stepfather were also in Birkenhead early mid-1920's - James GOLDIE and Annie (ms-Gilogley) DICK I would appreciate ANY assistance anyone can be. I blv Di (Dianne) married prior to 1968 but I do not know to WHOM. Rgrds Heather

Hi The only way he could do that is to visit Birkenhead Town Hall where they have all the old records in the archives they have school records and everything. Lorraine

Hi I spoke to my brother who is a lot older than me and he said that they must have moved very early on as he doesn't recvollect the name. I f there is anything you wish to know about the area please contact me and I will tell you. Lorraine

Hi What year did they live in School Place,I was brought up at no 24 but I can't recollect the name |Lacy. Lorraine

Hi Jane No books specifically about that area that I know of but some of the general pictorial books of old Birkenhead might have a glimpse. I am sure one of them has a photo of St Anne's RC church. I think it still stands but has been de-consecrated and it's some kind of community centre now. That part of town had the poorest reputation in town both for the human poverty with the attendant social evils and for the very poor housing stock. My mum you to say, if I was naughty, that I was no better than one of those kids from Back St Anne Street (but she didn't mean it, of course!). Many of the streets and some original housing are still there so if you ever visit you can get an idea of what the place used to look like. Regards, Gil -----Original Message----- From: Jane Lachs [mailto:jane@janelachs.de] Sent: 05 February 2002 09:22 To: BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [BKHD] New subscriber CARR FADDEN HASTY Thank-you Gil, that's just what I wanted .. I'll order that map. Do you know of any books about that area/time ? My mother once visited in-laws there .. said it was the poorest area she had ever seen .. and she came from a "poor" back-ground as well :-) Cheers Jane www.janelachs.de -----Original Message----- From: Gilbert Upton [mailto:uptonga@cybase.co.uk] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 10:37 PM To: BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [BKHD] New subscriber CARR FADDEN HASTY Jane It's Flamank Street which has long since disappeared. Not sure when - probably blitzed by the Luftwaffe in WW2. It lay parallel between Brook Street and Price Street near where they meet Duke Street near Birkenhead Docks. You will find it on the highly recommended 1909 map of Birkenhead (Godfrey Edition, Cheshire Sheet 13.03). This was a strong Irish Catholic enclave and noted for unruliness. Nearest Catholic Church was St Anne's, now closed. Field Street a couple of blocks away (also on the 1909 Godfrey Map) but do not know if it survives. My great grandparents who were Irish too lived there when they arrived from King's County (now Co Offaly) in the late 1880s. Gil Upton

George CARTER of Wavertree employed by London North Western Railway Co knocked down by a train on saturday morning and killed. The parentage of a male child aged 5mths found on the 29th ult in Bootle traced to William James GALLAGHER and Margaret Smith GRIER both of Belfast, both now in custody for manslaughter. William O'NEILL aged 42 Dock labourer living in a court off Beau St was engaged in discharging cargo from the Steamer LILY in the Langton dock were he was jammed against a door of dock shed by a sling of deals, owing to a guy rope breaking. His injuries proved fatal. Mr P. H. GRIFFITH died on Tuesday at his residence, Innisfallen, Warren Dr, New Brighton, he was a prominent member of the Liverpool Cotton Trade Ass for 35yrs and head of the firm GRIFFITH WILLIAMS and Co Grain.Commercial Merchants, Brunswick Buildings, Fenwick St. Death announced of Mr Bancroft COOKE, aged 61, residing Silverdale Rd, Oxton, last Sunday, has been retired 10yrs, actively associated with the Financial Reform Almanac and son of one of the oldest cotton brokers in Liverpool, Mr Isaac COOKE. Margaret WOOD of 15 Adelaide St, Wigan was left in a neighbours house playing, when her clothes caught fire, she died from her injuries. Death at Douglas of Mr Edward CHADWICK aged 64, ex mayor. The death occured of Mr Henry MATHWIN. B.A, J.P, aged 80, at Lipwood, Oxford Rd, Birkdale, Shoolmaster and president of Southport and Birkdale Private school, assisted from 1894, he was a Kentish man. Tuesday while building work was going on, on a building on the corner of Paradise St and Park Lane a brick layer fell from a great height to the pavement bringing debris down. people injuried and taken to the Southern Hospital, Alfred CORKHILL, age 15 of Cecil St ,Wavertree, points boy, bruised his back and cut his head and was detained. William WILSON, aged 59, Stonemason, bruised his foot and back and was released. Arthur SPEIGHT aged 25, Tenderden St, Scotland Rd fractured his skull and died soon after admission. Jane

Thank-you Gil, that's just what I wanted .. I'll order that map. Do you know of any books about that area/time ? My mother once visited in-laws there .. said it was the poorest area she had ever seen .. and she came from a "poor" back-ground as well :-) Cheers Jane www.janelachs.de -----Original Message----- From: Gilbert Upton [mailto:uptonga@cybase.co.uk] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 10:37 PM To: BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [BKHD] New subscriber CARR FADDEN HASTY Jane It's Flamank Street which has long since disappeared. Not sure when - probably blitzed by the Luftwaffe in WW2. It lay parallel between Brook Street and Price Street near where they meet Duke Street near Birkenhead Docks. You will find it on the highly recommended 1909 map of Birkenhead (Godfrey Edition, Cheshire Sheet 13.03). This was a strong Irish Catholic enclave and noted for unruliness. Nearest Catholic Church was St Anne's, now closed. Field Street a couple of blocks away (also on the 1909 Godfrey Map) but do not know if it survives. My great grandparents who were Irish too lived there when they arrived from King's County (now Co Offaly) in the late 1880s. Gil Upton

Jane It's Flamank Street which has long since disappeared. Not sure when - probably blitzed by the Luftwaffe in WW2. It lay parallel between Brook Street and Price Street near where they meet Duke Street near Birkenhead Docks. You will find it on the highly recommended 1909 map of Birkenhead (Godfrey Edition, Cheshire Sheet 13.03). This was a strong Irish Catholic enclave and noted for unruliness. Nearest Catholic Church was St Anne's, now closed. Field Street a couple of blocks away (also on the 1909 Godfrey Map) but do not know if it survives. My great grandparents who were Irish too lived there when they arrived from King's County (now Co Offaly) in the late 1880s. Gil Upton -----Original Message----- From: Jane Lachs [mailto:jane@janelachs.de] Sent: 03 February 2002 22:55 To: BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [BKHD] New subscriber CARR FADDEN HASTY Evening :-) (or whatever) I "adopted" this family below 2 1/2 years ago as "most likely" but it wasn't until yesterday that I found the final proof that they are "MINE" :-)) Would be grateful for any earlier/later census records and some back-ground information on the streets they lived in: Field Street/Flambank Street .. are they near to each other ? near the docks ? still existent ? Which Catholic Churches, schools are there in those areas ? Christopher is my Grand-Dad .. more that that I don't know .. not even the name of his wife. Has anyone on this list access to electoral roles ? TIA and Regards from Munich, Germany Jane Lachs

Hello To All, I too would be interested to know if all the cemeteries in St Helens Lancashire were filmed by LDS. Anne. ----- Original Message ----- From: <CRETEYET@aol.com> To: <BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 5:26 PM Subject: [BKHD] Re: BIRKENHEAD-D Digest V02 #32 > In a message dated 2/4/2002 1:02:22 AM Eastern Standard Time, > BIRKENHEAD-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > > > > that all the Wirral cemeteries were filmed by the LDS '''Would Tom or any > > other lister know if the same hold true for Lancashire cemeteries, in > > Particular the ones in St. Helens, I know its not in Cheshire but perhaps > > someone familiar with LDS and their filming would be able to reply. > > Joyce > > > > ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== > Search the archives of Birkenhead-L > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/BIRKENHEAD.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

In a message dated 2/4/2002 1:02:22 AM Eastern Standard Time, BIRKENHEAD-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > that all the Wirral cemeteries were filmed by the LDS '''Would Tom or any > other lister know if the same hold true for Lancashire cemeteries, in > Particular the ones in St. Helens, I know its not in Cheshire but perhaps > someone familiar with LDS and their filming would be able to reply. > Joyce

Evening :-) (or whatever) I "adopted" this family below 2 1/2 years ago as "most likely" but it wasn't until yesterday that I found the final proof that they are "MINE" :-)) Would be grateful for any earlier/later census records and some back-ground information on the streets they lived in: Field Street/Flambank Street .. are they near to each other ? near the docks ? still existent ? Which Catholic Churches, schools are there in those areas ? Christopher is my Grand-Dad .. more that that I don't know .. not even the name of his wife. Has anyone on this list access to electoral roles ? TIA and Regards from Munich, Germany Jane Lachs www.bolsterstone.de 1881 census Dwelling: 39 Field St, Birkenhead Bartholemew CARR born ca. 1841 in Ireland Occ: Dock Laborer his wife Mary Ann CARR (maybe maiden name FADDEN) born ca. 1841 in Ireland I've found a marriage on the Cheshire BMDs and will order the certificate. Children (from the 1881 census .. maybe more born later) Mark CARR, born ca. 1861 in Birkenhead, Occ: Dock Laborer (I found him in Denver Colorado in 1920, naturalised as USA citizen 1884) (Also found on FreeBMD Births Sep 1860 CARR Mark Wirral 8a 419) Patrick CARR, born ca. 1861 in Birkenhead, Occ: Soldier I have Patrick in the 1891 census, at 35, Field St., married with wife Ellen and son Patrick) (his wife could be Ellen HASTY, also in Field Street in 1881. Marriage found on FreeBMD) John CARR born ca. 1863 Birkenhead, Occ: Dock Laborer Josh CARR born ca. 1866 Birkenhead, Occ: Dock Laborer Bartholomew CARR born ca. 1868 in Birkenhead (Found on FreeBMD Births Mar 1870 CARR Bartholomew Birkenhead 8a 475) Norah CARR born ca. 1872 in Birkenhead (Found a possible marriage on FreeBMD) Michael CARR born ca. 1874 in Birkenhead Christopher CARR 3 months old in the 1881 census, born Birkenhead (In 1920 at 53, Flambank Street, Birkenhead)

Hi Maureen I looked for John ROWBOTTOM for you on the 1851 census for Birkenhead and there is no-one of that name listed. There is also nothing on the Wirral CDs either. Closest is a family called ROWBOTHAM but they are from Sheffield. Regards, Jen

Thanks for your help Mary....... I really appreciate what your doing. Bryan in cold Colorado.