Hello Listers - I had written asking if anyone had a book about English names similar to Seary`s in Nfld I guess its one of those that got lost. I have looked for some English names in Seary`s , Howards and Crosbies,in Nfld but am interested in the name of GLAZEBROOK and GOAT neither of which were in any of their books. The following was found for EVANS and if anyone is interested I have similar type of information on the name CREW(E). Regards Joyce There was nothing in Seary's book of Nfld for the surname Goat but the following is what there was for the surname Evans.EVANS, a surname of Wales, England and Ireland, from one of the Welsh forms of John - son of John,or sometimes from the Romano-British personal name Eugenius - well-born; in Ireland also an anglicized form of the rare O h Eimhin, in Ormond, derived from a word meaning swift. (Withycombe, Reaney, Cottle, MacLysaght). Guppy fou nd Evans widespread especially in Wales and the adjoining counties; MacLysaght in Ormond ("much of Co.Kilkenny and north Tipperary").     In Newfoundland:     Early instances: James Ewen, of St.John's Harbour,1675,"17 years an inhabitant in 1681, "that is, since 1664 (spelt Evans in 1681,2)(CO 1);  Edward Evans, of Port de Grave, 1751 (CO 194.13); John, of Western Bay,1771 (CO  199.18); Robert of Adam's Cove, 1786 (CO 199.18); John, J.P. of Placentia,1791  (D'Alberti 4);____, merchant of Grand Bank,1802 (D'Alberti 12); John,of Carbonear,1802 (CO 199.18); Andrew Evans or Evens, of Harbour Grace  Parish, 1807 (Nfld. Archives HGRC); James Evans, of Ochre Pit Cove, 1816 (DPHW  52A); Andrew, of Fogo,1817 (Nfld.Archives  CRC); lizabeth, born at Cape St.Francis,1819 (DPHW 52A); Andrew, of Kings Cove, 1820 (Nfld. Archives KCRC); James, of Hant's Harbour,1823 (DPHW 58); Robert, planter of Renews,1825 (DPHW 31) Andrew, from Lismore (Co.Waterford), of Trinity, 1827 (Nfld. Archives KCRC); Andrew, of Turks Cove (Tinity B.), 1829 (Nfld. Archives KCRC); Robert, planter of SCilly Cove (now Winterton),1834 (DPHW 48); T homas, of Brunette Island,1835 (DPHW 30);Eleanor,of Fortune,1838 (DPHW 106); William Evins,of Pouch Cove,1839 (Nfld.Archives BRC);Edward Evans,of Exploits Burnt Island,1843 (DPHW 86);William,  of Bay Roberts,1848 (DPHW 39); Philip,of Mose Ambrose,1853 (DPHW 104);John,of Fox Harbour (Trinity B.),1855 (DPHW  59A);George,of Channel,1858 (DPHW 98);widespread in Lovell 1871.      Modern status:Widespread,especially at English Harbour  West, Femme (Fortune B.)(Electors 1955),St.John's and Pouch Cove.     Place names:Evans Bight (Labrador)59-18 63-32;____Head 47-0455-47;___Lake(Labrador)54-29 66-11:____Point 49-09 55-23;___Ridge 47-1156-06

Hello List , Can anyone.. tell me anything about the ROYAL ROCK HOTEL ?.. I believe it was ONCE situated on the ROCK FERRY ESPLAINADES..and was demolished about 1930..My interest is - that at some point prior to it being demolished the Figure Head of the Ship " Forteviot" stood in the Gardens ..My grt-grt-Grnadfather was the Ships First Captain( the ship was launched in Liverpool in 1891)there was supposed to have been a photograph of the figure head in the gardens ,in a book titled " The Forgotton Shores of the Wirral" however -when i was finaly able to locate a copy of the book -there was no picture !!. Regards Louise Birkenhead UK. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

I'm afraid I have to disagree with John's comment that public graves are a polite way of describing pauper's graves. During my researches, I have many ancestors buried in public graves....in Liverpool....and on checking the order books, I've found that some money was paid towards the burials as a contribution...therefore the balance was paid by whoever - church, local council etc. Everton Cemetery for instance has the private and public graves, and just recently I discovered that they also have a section for pauper burials. It's possible that other cemeteries have sections which cover the paupers, but you have to ask at the record office or the cemetery concerned. Freda ----- Original Message ----- From: John Oliver <john@oliver5617.freeserve.co.uk> To: <BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 10:09 PM Subject: Re: [BKHD] Flaybrick Cemetery Records > Hello Tom, > Public Graves are a polite way of describing "pauper's > graves", in Flaybrick they usually hold about 25 people, occasionally there > is a plaque on the wall to commemorate a person who is buried there ,but not > many. I have several ancestors buried in them, but no plaques. Flaybrick is > on the side of a rocky hill so there are rock walls dotted about, the public > graves seemed to be put against a rock face, unfortunately I don't think > that would help you find any other graves. regards John Oliver (Upton, > Wirral UK) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Webb/Davies Research <gospeloak@hotmail.com> > To: <BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 6:42 PM > Subject: [BKHD] Flaybrick Cemetery Records > > > > List , > > After a 9 month wait, I was finally able to look at the film of "Burials in > consecrated ground, 1864-1883" for Flaybrick cemetery. The following entries > are the brother and daughter respectively of my great grandfather Thomas > Ramsbottom: > > No. 916 8782 > # In Order Book 925 7 > Buried 26 Feb 1866 7 Feb 1882 > Name Henry Ramsbottom Elizabeth A.Ramsbottom > Age 7 4 Months > Mode of Burial Public Grave Public Grave > Section 8 8 > Grave # 187 473 > > Is there anyone familiar with the records for this cemetery that could > answer a few questions: > > What is the definition of a public grave? Do families own the plot or are > people that are buried in public graves just put in the next available > grave? > > Is any of the information from the two records above sufficient to lead me > to the rest of the family's graves? > > Tom Wood > Pittsburgh, PA USA > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > > ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== > Search the archives of Birkenhead-L > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/BIRKENHEAD.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== > Search the archives of Birkenhead-L > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/BIRKENHEAD.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Dear John, Sycamore Road still exists. It is not located in the main town area of Birkenhead. It is located in a residential area known as Tranmere. For you info the following is directions for getting there. From Derby Road (a main road with side roads leading to Borough Road another main road). From Derby Road turn into Milton Road, halfway down turn right into Sycamore Road. Sycamore runs parallel with Derby Road and Borough Road. Hope this helps you. Dorothy McCrary

Hello Jo Anne, Birkenhead Institute in Whetstone Lane was demolished about 1970, the junior school, which was next door, towards Clifton Road was used as a school library and 6th form when I went there in the 50s. Regards John Oliver (Upton, Wirral UK) ----- Original Message ----- From: Jo Anne Gaddy <jogaddy@saber.net> To: <BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 5:58 AM Subject: [BKHD] Birkenhead Institute > I've responded privately but thanks once again to all those who replied to > my query about school records. All very helpful. George Galloway was > apparently very active in the Church as well as educational life and is > supposed to have been President of both the Liverpool and the Birkenhead > Teacher's Associations at various times. The advice given may help me there > as well. > > I realized I have some additional information which may help locate the last > school he established. My notes say that in 1904 Clifton Park School was > amalgamated with the nearby Birkenhead Institute and that Clifton Park was > used to house the Junior School. Does this Institute still exist and would > anyone know where this Junior School is/was located? > > Thank you, > Jo Anne Gaddy, California > jogaddy@saber.net > > > > > ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== > Search the archives of Birkenhead-L > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/BIRKENHEAD.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi there , According to my husband ! the BI merged with Tollemache Boys School in Tollemache Road Claughton in the mid 1970's ..and sometime during the mid 1990's this was demolished and replaced with a small housing estate . Hope this of some help ! Regards Louise Birkenhead. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

Freda and list, In the information that I got from the Flaybrick cemetery records was an entry titled "# In Order Book". Could someone explain what this term means and if this information has any value with regard to finding other family members graves. Tom >From: "freda.elsdon" <freda.elsdon@ntlworld.com> >Reply-To: BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com >To: BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [BKHD] Flaybrick Cemetery Records >Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 21:11:35 -0000 > >I'm afraid I have to disagree with John's comment that public graves are a >polite way of describing pauper's graves. During my researches, I have >many >ancestors buried in public graves....in Liverpool....and on checking the >order books, I've found that some money was paid towards the burials as a >contribution...therefore the balance was paid by whoever - church, local >council etc. Everton Cemetery for instance has the private and public >graves, and just recently I discovered that they also have a section for >pauper burials. It's possible that other cemeteries have sections which >cover the paupers, but you have to ask at the record office or the cemetery >concerned. > >Freda >----- Original Message ----- >From: John Oliver <john@oliver5617.freeserve.co.uk> >To: <BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 10:09 PM >Subject: Re: [BKHD] Flaybrick Cemetery Records > > > > Hello Tom, > > Public Graves are a polite way of describing "pauper's > > graves", in Flaybrick they usually hold about 25 people, occasionally >there > > is a plaque on the wall to commemorate a person who is buried there ,but >not > > many. I have several ancestors buried in them, but no plaques. Flaybrick >is > > on the side of a rocky hill so there are rock walls dotted about, the >public > > graves seemed to be put against a rock face, unfortunately I don't think > > that would help you find any other graves. regards John Oliver (Upton, > > Wirral UK) > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Webb/Davies Research <gospeloak@hotmail.com> > > To: <BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 6:42 PM > > Subject: [BKHD] Flaybrick Cemetery Records > > > > > > > > List , > > > > After a 9 month wait, I was finally able to look at the film of "Burials >in > > consecrated ground, 1864-1883" for Flaybrick cemetery. The following >entries > > are the brother and daughter respectively of my great grandfather Thomas > > Ramsbottom: > > > > No. 916 8782 > > # In Order Book 925 7 > > Buried 26 Feb 1866 7 Feb 1882 > > Name Henry Ramsbottom Elizabeth A.Ramsbottom > > Age 7 4 Months > > Mode of Burial Public Grave Public Grave > > Section 8 8 > > Grave # 187 473 > > > > Is there anyone familiar with the records for this cemetery that could > > answer a few questions: > > > > What is the definition of a public grave? Do families own the plot or >are > > people that are buried in public graves just put in the next available > > grave? > > > > Is any of the information from the two records above sufficient to lead >me > > to the rest of the family's graves? > > > > Tom Wood > > Pittsburgh, PA USA > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > > > > > ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== > > Search the archives of Birkenhead-L > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/BIRKENHEAD.html > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy >records, >go > > to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== > > Search the archives of Birkenhead-L > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/BIRKENHEAD.html > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy >records, >go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > >==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== >Search the archives of Birkenhead-L >http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/BIRKENHEAD.html > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

Dear Friend of Birkenhead list. When I wrote the email earlier today, I thought there was something wrong, but only after, did I realise that I should have written MEACOCK and not Meakin....must have been thinking of special china.... Hope this fixes the problem...Thelma in Australia. COX www.angelfire.com/rnb/mrbirrell/ BOSTOCK http://birrell.1hwy.com/index.htm SCOTS/IRISH http://matthewbirrell.50megs.com/index.html BIRRELL www.electricscotland.com/webclans/atoc/birrell2.html MONTGOMERY http://home.talkcity.com/BookmarkBlvd/mrbirrell/ STOKES/YATES www.freehomepages.com/mrbirrell/ "If we did all we were capable of, we would astound ourselves." I Wrote earlier today.... > I am been lurking for a few weeks and now would like to post > my interests in the region. We visited there in 1995, so understand > the landscape a little. > MANIFOLD and MEACOCK of the county - Bromborough are > relevant to Elizabeth Landy and myself. My direct links are to > BOSTOCK - BLEASE - WILKINSON - BARKER - BETTS. > > The web pages below explain. > Robert Bostock (1743 - 1793) R.N. was a shipowner (dare I say) > slave trader (1779-1793), in the years when all industry, government > and civillians wanted it continued for the prosperity of industry, business > and dare I say, church buildings.

BIRTHS february 5th, 21 Osborne Rd, Belmont Rd, R. Anthony THOMAS a dau 9th, 11 Jolliffe St, Princes Pk, B. FRANCIS a dau 11th, 3 St Andrew's Rd Anfield, Thomas BRYDE a son 11th, 135 Hawthorne Rd Bootle, Owen CLANCY a son 12th, 8 Carlton Rd, New Brighton, W. D. SHIMMIN a dau 13th, Rockwood Waterloo, Thomas B. BENTLEY, a dau MARRIAGES 8th, Sephton Pk Church, John CHRISTIE of Admiral St to Jeanne Runcie eld dau Thomas BEGG, Chief Engineer SS. MORANTIN, late of Aberdeen. 12th, Willaston Church, by Rev W.E. TORR Vicar of Eastham, brother of the Groom, Herbert James TORR of Riseholme Hall Lincoln, youngest son of the late John TORR, to Rosita eldest dau of Duncan GRAHAM Esq Lydiate, Willaston, Cheshire House Sefton Pk. 12th, Fredrick William ROBERTS eldest son of Colonel ROBERTS of Windsor, to Eugene Augusta youngest dau of Sir James W. MACKEY. D.L. 13th, Norwood Cong Church, John Mathews HAY, son of David HAY of Fairfield to Susan Emily 6th dau of William ROBERTS of Anfield. DEATHS 2nd, At Valparasio, Rev David TRUMBULL. D.D, age 69, Union Church Pastor 3rd, 34 Clevedon St, Capt John GABRIEL age 51, late of the Downshire Lodge of Freemasons. 8th, 32 Seabank Rd, Southport, Edward Skelhorne GOULDING, late of Warrington, Interment Grappenhall Parish Church. ? 7 Ridley St B'Head, Robert Kent JONES, age 47, interment Flaybrick Hill 9th, 6 Blackbutne Terrace, Mr A. H. SAUNDERS of the firm Ayrton and Saunders, interment St James. 10th, 48 Redrock St, Mary age 63, widow of Fredrick LEE, interment Anfield 10th, 43 Egerton St, Alexander Mc LELLAND of H. M. Customs Liverpool 11th, At Prescot James Bruce MACPHERSON. L.R.C.P, and S Ed, son of Frances Alexander MACPHERSON of Londonderry. 11th, 69 Oriel Rd Bootle, Frances age 40 yrs wife of Fergus FERGUSON and dau of the late John STACEY. 12th, Frank age 22 son of W and S. A. BOWDEN 12th, At Cannes, William Page RILEY, age 38, of 38 Hartington Rd, Eldest son of John RILEY, Croxteth House, Princes Gate 12th, At fathers residence Orrell Rd, Liscard, Adian 4th son of James COOBAN, interment Wallasey 12th, 13 Moses St, Annie Grassie, age 13mths youngest dau of George and Sophia BRUCE 12th, 235 Whitefield Rd, Catherine, age 44, wife of Maurice EVANS, interment Anfield 12th, 123 Robson St, age 2yrs 5mths Frances [Cissy] dau of Thomas and Catherine FLANAGAN 13th, Lea Hurst, Newsham Pk, Pepe age 8, son of Ramon and Florence ROSES 13th, 37 Watford Rd, Martha Elizabeth, wife of William MARRIOTT, Interment Anfield. 13th, Fathers residence, 14 Churchill St, Willam Henry eldest son of Richard SANDERSON for 19yrs with the Shropshire Union Canal Co, interment Smithdown Rd. MEMORY Mother Charlotte WHITTINGHAM Died 14th Feb 1883 Age 50 yrs Jane ______________________________ ------------------------------

Hi Leigh, I do not know whether there is a connection to this family or not, but I have a family also in 1881 living at 1 Birkenhead Cliffs (which I cannot find on a map) and they are:- Ellen Evans, widow 51 born Barnhill, Cheshire Henry Evans, son 22 labourer born Chester John Evans, son 20 born Macclesfield Rachel Evans, dau 18 born Denbigh. I think that the deseased husband could have been William Evans, gent whi is mentioned on his sone Henry's marriage cert in 1894. not being able to find Henry's birth record, I cannot at the moment, marry up the father with the mother! If you go back to 1851 for example and come across a William and Ellen, I would be most greatful. They obviously lived at Denbigh in abt 1863 when Rachel weas born - maybe I should just buy her birth cert and done with it! regards Juliet Evans ----- Original Message ----- From: <YeagerLA@aol.com> To: <BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 10:05 PM Subject: [BKHD] Mary Ann JONES and John EVANS, Borough Road, Birkenhead > Hi > > I am new to the list so thought I'd start by posting my interests. > > In 1881 my ancestors were living at 352 Borough Rd Birkenhead, Cheshire > > John EVANS M 52 M Wrexham, Denbigh, Wales > Rel: Head > Occ: Gardener (Dom) > Mary A. EVANS M 53 F Wrexham, Denbigh, Wales > Rel: Wife > Occ: Laundress > William EVANS W 70 M Shrewbury, Shropshire, England > Rel: Lodger > Occ: Gardener (Dom) > Maud EVANS U 20 F Birkenhead, Cheshire, England > Rel: Dau > Occ: Serv Gen > Ada EVANS U 17 F Birkenhead, Cheshire, England > Rel: Dau > Occ: Serv Gen > Anne EVANS U 15 F Birkenhead, Cheshire, England > Rel: Dau > Occ: Scholar > Charles EVANS U 15 M Birkenhead, Cheshire, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Errand Boy > > Another of their children - John Henry EVANS also lived in Borough Road > (probably around No.47) at that time with his wife Mary Ann (nee STOREY) and > their children Harriet Emily and Nellie. > > John Henry (an undertaker's coachman and cab driver) had been born at 59 > Brook Street, Birkenhead, Cheshire on 31 May 1853. > > If anyone can see a connection or if you have information that might be of > use to me I would be extremely happy to hear from you. > > Kind regards > Leigh Yeager > YeagerLA@aol.com > > > ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== > Search the archives of Birkenhead-L > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/BIRKENHEAD.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

I am been lurking for a few weeks and now would like to post my interests in the region. We visited there in 1995, so understand the landscape a little. MANIFOLD and MEAKIN of the county - Bromborough are relevant to Elizabeth Landy and myself. My direct links are to BOSTOCK - BLEASE - WILKINSON - BARKER - BETTS. The web pages below explain. Robert Bostock (1743 - 1793) R.N. was a shipowner (dare I say) slave trader (1779-1793), in the years when all industry, government and civillians wanted it continued for the prosperity of industry, business and dare I say, church buildings. Although the Bostock family are native to Cheshire, they lived in Liverpool in the latter part up to 1846 when my last Bostock name is found. Addresses - Union Street, Bootle and Hope Street, Liverpool. Charles Bostock R.N. and family lived at 30 Marine Crescent, Waterloo and died at Fareham, Hants. However, the Birkenhead light was important to the shipping on the Mersey, with Bostock's flag number 43. I have a 'Sadler' mug c.1778 which depicts the Birkenhead Light and relevant flags.. I would love to make contact with anyone who has links to any of the above names... Sincerely in Searching...Thelma (Bostock) Birrell in Queensland Australia. BOSTOCK http://birrell.1hwy.com/index.htm COX www.angelfire.com/rnb/mrbirrell/ SCOTS/IRISH http://matthewbirrell.50megs.com/index.html BIRRELL www.electricscotland.com/webclans/atoc/birrell2.html MONTGOMERY http://home.talkcity.com/BookmarkBlvd/mrbirrell/ STOKES/YATES www.freehomepages.com/mrbirrell/ "Experience is what we get, when we don't get what we want"

Dear Jane, Many kind thanks for your effort in helping others in their quest for ancestors. I am one just lurking at the moment, as so much seems to keep me busy. However, I appreciate your efforts and am emailing to let you know your efforts are not in vain. Sincerely in Searching. Thelma (Bostock) Birrell at Maroochydore, Qld. COX www.angelfire.com/rnb/mrbirrell/ BOSTOCK http://birrell.1hwy.com/index.htm SCOTS/IRISH http://matthewbirrell.50megs.com/index.html BIRRELL www.electricscotland.com/webclans/atoc/birrell2.html MONTGOMERY http://home.talkcity.com/BookmarkBlvd/mrbirrell/ STOKES/YATES www.freehomepages.com/mrbirrell/ "Experience is what we get, when we don't get what we want" records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

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Try Wirral Archives -----Original Message----- From: Jo Anne Gaddy [mailto:jogaddy@saber.net] Sent: 23 February 2002 22:26 To: BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [BKHD] GALLOWAY Greetings from Northern California My name is Jo Anne and I have just discovered this list. My maternal Grandfather, Walter GALLOWAY, was born in Birkenhead in 1886. According to some notes I have, Walter's Grandfather, George GALLOWAY was the Headmaster of St. Andrew's Presbyterian School until 1878 when he established Ashford House School in partnership with John BRUCE M.A. In 1881 the partnership was dissolved and George established Clifton Park School. Could someone advise me how to go about confirming and adding to this information? Were school records kept and where would they be now? I've found George and most of the family on the 1881 CD's at 18 Falcon Grove, Birkenhead. Would their residence be the school? They had two young boys, listed as scholars, boarding with them. Any help would be appreciated. In case anyone is interested a brief outline of my family is listed below my signature. Best Wishes, Jo Anne Chellew Gaddy, California jogaddy@saber.net Descendants of George Galloway:- 1 George GALLOWAY b: 19 March 1828 in Cuthberts, Midlothian, Scotland d: 13 July 1893 Birkenhead, Cheshire, England . +Elizabeth CHISHOLM b: Abt. 1832 in Scotland m: 01 January 1851 Edinburgh, Edinburgh Parish, Midlothian, Scotland d: 1896 ... 2 John Chisholm GALLOWAY b: 1853 in Edinburgh, Scotland d: 1932 England ....... + Lillie (Lily) JONES m: 1879 (possibly St. Paul, Tranmere) d: 1920 ... 2 George GALLOWAY b: 23 September 1855 in George St., Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland d: 20 January 1935 Liverpool, Lancashire, England ....... +Christina MENZIES b: 03 January 1862 m: 01 January 1895 Aberfeldy ... 2 Robert GALLOWAY b: 24 June 1857 in Houston, Renfrewshire, Scotland d: 1940 ....... +Ellen GRANT b: Abt. 1857 in Kerrimiur, Scotland m: 1886 d: 1932 ... 2 Elizabeth GALLOWAY aka: Bessie b: 15 August 1859 in Houston, Renfrewshire, Scotland d: 1886 London, England ....... +David Whilton MCINNES m: 1884 Birkenhead, Cheshire, England d: 1909 ... 2 William Chisholm GALLOWAY b: 24 November 1861 in Houston, Renfrewshire, Scotland ....... +Ellen Margaret M A MUNDAY aka: Nellie b: in Clifton, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England m: 1890 Barton Regis, Gloucestershire, England ... 2 Isabella GALLOWAY aka: Belle b: Abt. 1864 in Birkenhead, Cheshire, England d: 1923 ....... +Robert Buckham JONES m: 1901 [Brother of Lillie JONES wife of John C GALLOWAY above] ... 2 James GALLOWAY b: Abt. 1866 in Birkenhead, Cheshire, England d: 1896 ....... +Adelaid Elizabeth ELLSWORTH b: Abt. 1871 in Liverpool, Lancashire, England m: 1892 ... 2 Margaret GALLOWAY b: 1868 in Birkenhead, Cheshire, England d: 1954 ... 2 Mary GALLOWAY d: 1905 ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== Search the archives of Birkenhead-L http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/BIRKENHEAD.htm l ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourc eid=1237

Hi there , There is a small village called BRIMSTAGE between Heswall and Clatterbridge . Louise Wirral. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

Hello Tom, Public Graves are a polite way of describing "pauper's graves", in Flaybrick they usually hold about 25 people, occasionally there is a plaque on the wall to commemorate a person who is buried there ,but not many. I have several ancestors buried in them, but no plaques. Flaybrick is on the side of a rocky hill so there are rock walls dotted about, the public graves seemed to be put against a rock face, unfortunately I don't think that would help you find any other graves. regards John Oliver (Upton, Wirral UK) ----- Original Message ----- From: Webb/Davies Research <gospeloak@hotmail.com> To: <BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 6:42 PM Subject: [BKHD] Flaybrick Cemetery Records List , After a 9 month wait, I was finally able to look at the film of "Burials in consecrated ground, 1864-1883" for Flaybrick cemetery. The following entries are the brother and daughter respectively of my great grandfather Thomas Ramsbottom: No. 916 8782 # In Order Book 925 7 Buried 26 Feb 1866 7 Feb 1882 Name Henry Ramsbottom Elizabeth A.Ramsbottom Age 7 4 Months Mode of Burial Public Grave Public Grave Section 8 8 Grave # 187 473 Is there anyone familiar with the records for this cemetery that could answer a few questions: What is the definition of a public grave? Do families own the plot or are people that are buried in public graves just put in the next available grave? Is any of the information from the two records above sufficient to lead me to the rest of the family's graves? Tom Wood Pittsburgh, PA USA _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== Search the archives of Birkenhead-L http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/BIRKENHEAD.html ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

I've responded privately but thanks once again to all those who replied to my query about school records. All very helpful. George Galloway was apparently very active in the Church as well as educational life and is supposed to have been President of both the Liverpool and the Birkenhead Teacher's Associations at various times. The advice given may help me there as well. I realized I have some additional information which may help locate the last school he established. My notes say that in 1904 Clifton Park School was amalgamated with the nearby Birkenhead Institute and that Clifton Park was used to house the Junior School. Does this Institute still exist and would anyone know where this Junior School is/was located? Thank you, Jo Anne Gaddy, California jogaddy@saber.net

Hello Jo Anne, I have a fact sheet from WIRRAL ARCHIVES the place that holds the old school records, and the name of the school you mentioned is on it. ref:: B/329 St Andrew's Pres. School Birkenhead 1862 - 1936. ref: B/331/6-10 St Andrew's Pres School Tranmere 1868 - 1964. If you write to them at: WIRRAL ARCHIVES Wirral Museum Birkenhead Town Hall Birkenhead CH41 5BR. I am sure they will be happy to help you further. Hope this helps Good luck Barbara Terrace Northwich Cheshire. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jo Anne Gaddy" <jogaddy@saber.net> To: <BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 10:25 PM Subject: [BKHD] GALLOWAY > Greetings from Northern California > > My name is Jo Anne and I have just discovered this list. > > My maternal Grandfather, Walter GALLOWAY, was born in Birkenhead in 1886. > According to some notes I have, Walter's Grandfather, George GALLOWAY was > the Headmaster of St. Andrew's Presbyterian School until 1878 when he > established Ashford House School in partnership with John BRUCE M.A. In > 1881 the partnership was dissolved and George established Clifton Park > School. Could someone advise me how to go about confirming and adding to > this information? Were school records kept and where would they be now? > I've found George and most of the family on the 1881 CD's at 18 Falcon > Grove, Birkenhead. Would their residence be the school? They had two young > boys, listed as scholars, boarding with them. > > Any help would be appreciated. In case anyone is interested a brief outline > of my family is listed below my signature. > > Best Wishes, > Jo Anne Chellew Gaddy, California > jogaddy@saber.net > > > Descendants of George Galloway:- > > 1 George GALLOWAY b: 19 March 1828 in Cuthberts, Midlothian, Scotland > d: 13 July 1893 Birkenhead, Cheshire, England > . +Elizabeth CHISHOLM b: Abt. 1832 in Scotland m: 01 January 1851 > Edinburgh, Edinburgh Parish, Midlothian, Scotland d: 1896 > ... 2 John Chisholm GALLOWAY b: 1853 in Edinburgh, Scotland d: 1932 > England > ....... + Lillie (Lily) JONES m: 1879 (possibly St. Paul, Tranmere) d: > 1920 > ... 2 George GALLOWAY b: 23 September 1855 in George St., Edinburgh, > Midlothian, Scotland d: 20 January 1935 Liverpool, Lancashire, England > ....... +Christina MENZIES b: 03 January 1862 m: 01 January 1895 > Aberfeldy > ... 2 Robert GALLOWAY b: 24 June 1857 in Houston, Renfrewshire, Scotland > d: 1940 > ....... +Ellen GRANT b: Abt. 1857 in Kerrimiur, Scotland m: 1886 d: 1932 > ... 2 Elizabeth GALLOWAY aka: Bessie b: 15 August 1859 in Houston, > Renfrewshire, Scotland d: 1886 London, England > ....... +David Whilton MCINNES m: 1884 Birkenhead, Cheshire, England d: > 1909 > ... 2 William Chisholm GALLOWAY b: 24 November 1861 in Houston, > Renfrewshire, Scotland > ....... +Ellen Margaret M A MUNDAY aka: Nellie b: in Clifton, Bristol, > Gloucestershire, England m: 1890 Barton Regis, Gloucestershire, England > ... 2 Isabella GALLOWAY aka: Belle b: Abt. 1864 in Birkenhead, Cheshire, > England d: 1923 > ....... +Robert Buckham JONES m: 1901 [Brother of Lillie JONES wife of > John C GALLOWAY above] > ... 2 James GALLOWAY b: Abt. 1866 in Birkenhead, Cheshire, England d: > 1896 > ....... +Adelaid Elizabeth ELLSWORTH b: Abt. 1871 in Liverpool, > Lancashire, England m: 1892 > ... 2 Margaret GALLOWAY b: 1868 in Birkenhead, Cheshire, England d: > 1954 > ... 2 Mary GALLOWAY d: 1905 > > > > ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== > Search the archives of Birkenhead-L > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/BIRKENHEAD.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hello Annabelle, School records are usually held at local record offices or sometimes at the schools themselves. The Wirral Archives have a leaflet listing all the school records they hold. Most are for Birkenhead schools but others named are in Wallasey, Heswall, Tranmere etc. Other records administered by Cheshire County Council before 1974 are likely to have been deposited at Cheshire Record Office; the majority of these are from Church of England schools. The Archive phone no. in Birkenhead is 0151 647 39965 and their address is: Wirral Museum, Birkenhead town Hall, Hamilton Square, Birkenhead CH41 5BR The school I am particularly interested in is the old school at Hr. Bebington but these appear to have gone missing. If anyone has any idea where they are I shall be glad to hear from them. Hazel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Annabelle Sutton" <Annabelle@sutton86.fsnet.co.uk> To: <BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 24 February 2002 12:18 Subject: [BKHD] SCHOOLS > Hi all, > i am very interested in schools as extra imformation on my ancestors.I recently tracked a school in my area ( Devon) through the census returns 1841-1891.and discovered a lot about the owners who also had a sister school 50 miles away run by other members of the same family.My local record office however have no records on it, presumably because it was a private school,they did however have the local church run school records.Birkenhead may of course be different,and i would also be interested to know if ,or what records exist. > annabelle@sutton86.fsnet.co.uk >

Louise I will log that for ref. Thank you Heather