Hi,List, Still hoping someone could look up the 1871 and 1891 census for me please for Rhyll Street Birkenhead,Hoping to find details of Fisher family also Barker family same street.Any help apreciated Thankyou. Coreen Liverpool
Hey Laurie, not too bright, huh? You a Yank by any chance? XXXXX _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
Unkind and uncalled for.. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Bell" <ajb1605@hotmail.com> To: <BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 7:03 PM Subject: [BKHD] Re: BIRKENHEAD-D Digest V02 #57 > Hey Laurie, > not too bright, huh? > You a Yank by any chance? > XXXXX > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > > ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== > Search the archives of Birkenhead-L > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/BIRKENHEAD.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >
Listers, I have really enjoyed the vignettes about home delivery of bottled milk. When I was growing up, here in the States (in the 40's), the milk would freeze on the porch during the winter. In the process, the milk would push the freezing cream out of the bottle. When you went outside to retrieve your milk, you would have these frozen "tubes" of cream. We would sprinkle sugar on them and have "ice cream". That was before we knew what ICE-CREAM really was. More interestingly, was the Iceman, who would arrive with one foot square cubes of solid ice for your icebox. (To me a refrigerator is still an icebox). What I remember the most is how the ice was handled. The Iceman would grab a set of huge black metal tongs that were "S" shaped scissors with a large rivet-pin in the middle and sharp points on the ends. These tongs had large looped handles on either end, which he would grab with gloves, and smack the large ice cubes with the tongs. If he was experienced, he could i! mbed the teeth of the tongs into the ice and carry it with one hand, with the bottom pin pointing upwards to hold the weight. Then he would load the ice into the bottom compartment of the icebox. Surprisingly, the large cubes would last quite a while. Did they have Icemen in England? Regards, John Farrall Burke, Virginia
Has anyone lost any Bibbys who may be in Birkenhead in 1841, while searching for mine, I have found Ellen Bibby age 60, born outside the county and Margaret Bibby aged 18 born in county. Do these belong to anyone? Juliet
Hello Laurie and list Here is my two pennorth. Because one of my distant US cousins (Barbara) married a greek american with a rare name I was able to find this man - her former husband - who was then also found by another long lost US cousin (Jim) who is also researching the family. Jim put an ad in a US gen magazine and somehow found Barbara. They have sent me photos of their side, plus little tid bits of info so of which didnt mean much to them, but I could interpret the misspellings etc and fit it in with what I know. I helps that in live in Edinburgh, where our mutual ancestors were married in 1828. There is a possibility that an elderly relative who was the second wife of a younger son -thus taking us much further back into past generations- will have stuff in her attic elsewhere in the US. The family lived in the same house a long time whilst mine moved about and kept having disasters. Who knows what will turn up, all because Jim and I took the trouble to find living relatives. I could tell you another tale about my Oz relatives, but I think ive made my point ;-) When you are doing a jigsaw like we are doing, you need to find the people with the missing pieces! Judy ---------- >From: BMcCrary1@aol.com >To: BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [BKHD] I do not Mind but do you >Date: Fri, Mar 1, 2002, 12:50 am > > Sorry Laurie, > > You must not know much about research, which is what genealogy is all about.
Laurie, I'd just read your email on the Birkenhead list then went to read my mail in Yorksgen and see you have posted it there as well. Genealogy doesn't start in the 19th cent. it starts with the child born to-day. Jane in Munich www.janelachs.de www.bolsterstone.de -----Original Message----- From: Marilyn M Coster [mailto:marilyn@mcoster.freeserve.co.uk] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 1:30 AM To: BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [BKHD] I do not Mind but do you Hello Listers, I thought, may I am wrong list holders, that the sites were for Genealogy, ( maybe I misunderstand the word Genealogy) but I see people,asking about the 1930's, 40s. 50's 60's 70's 80's and even the 1990's trying to trace relatives. Should these people not better off with the Salvation Army instead of Glogging up these sites. we cannot look at records after 1901 in general terms in England- Other countries are earlier but never, or rarely later, so can someone not put something in the rules to stop this or advise people of the reason for the Web site. I have never objected to supplying data to people that I have that is prior to 1901, some have but they also agree that the data requested is Genealogical, and tell then were to go to get the data. That said it is wrong in my opinion to be requested of who lived where and who lived where for the aforementioned dates. Laurie. ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== Search the archives of Birkenhead-L http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/BIRKENHEAD.html ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237
Enough of this thread please before it gets out of hand. Rootsweb genealogy mailing lists ARE for the discussion of Genealogy AND family history and are not restricted to any date limits. It is extremely important to get all of the family history facts from the documents and oral history of living relatives and recent past events before beginning to research our own genealogy any further back - as most of us are aware. If anyone is bothered by the amount of mails coming from the Rootsweb mailing lists they are subscribed to they can do either one of two things - Go to Digest and have the postings to that list delivered to them in digest mails or they can unsubscribe and do their research elsewhere. Beginners please read the following guides both are useful Rootsweb guide for beginners http://rwguide.rootsweb.com/ Roy Stockdill's guide for Newbie genealogists (UK) http://www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html Caryl List Admin
Hi Laurie, Genealogy does not start with 1901,There are people on the other side of the world who may know nothing or have been adopted out in the war years they have to start somewhere it is not just looking back at the 18th 19th century they have to find their way back and the best way for Genealogy as everyone or nearly everyone knows is to start with facts from the here and now and work backwards,after all if you find relatives who you didn`t know you had who are alive now then they may have all the info you need.maybe one day you may be looking for dates which are closer now as you may find offsprings from branches of the family you don`t know about,so always be willing to help as one day them same people may help you. Best Wishes Coreen ----- Original Message ----- From: Marilyn M Coster <marilyn@mcoster.freeserve.co.uk> To: <BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 12:29 AM Subject: [BKHD] I do not Mind but do you > Hello Listers, > > I thought, may I am wrong list holders, that the sites were for Genealogy, ( maybe I misunderstand the word Genealogy) but I see people,asking about the 1930's, 40s. 50's 60's 70's 80's and even the 1990's trying to trace relatives. Should these people not better off with the Salvation Army instead of Glogging up these sites. we cannot look at records after 1901 in general terms in England- Other countries are earlier but never, or rarely later, so can someone not put something in the rules to stop this or advise people of the reason for the Web site. > > I have never objected to supplying data to people that I have that is prior to 1901, some have but they also agree that the data requested is Genealogical, and tell then were to go to get the data. That said it is wrong in my opinion to be requested of who lived where and who lived where for the aforementioned dates. > > Laurie. > > > > > ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== > Search the archives of Birkenhead-L > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/BIRKENHEAD.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >
Hello Listers, I thought, may I am wrong list holders, that the sites were for Genealogy, ( maybe I misunderstand the word Genealogy) but I see people,asking about the 1930's, 40s. 50's 60's 70's 80's and even the 1990's trying to trace relatives. Should these people not better off with the Salvation Army instead of Glogging up these sites. we cannot look at records after 1901 in general terms in England- Other countries are earlier but never, or rarely later, so can someone not put something in the rules to stop this or advise people of the reason for the Web site. I have never objected to supplying data to people that I have that is prior to 1901, some have but they also agree that the data requested is Genealogical, and tell then were to go to get the data. That said it is wrong in my opinion to be requested of who lived where and who lived where for the aforementioned dates. Laurie.
Hi Heather. I lived in the Harp Inn which is at 40 Old Chester Road. This was 1959 -1962. Number 24 would have been just a short distance from where I lived but near to the train station, that part of the road has been knocked down now although the station is still there and so is the pub where I lived. The properties were mainly terrace houses, although there were a few shops. If I can help further let me know. regards Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heather Fromme" <fromme@marshlake.polarcom.com> To: <BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 7:26 PM Subject: [BKHD] Old Chester Rd. > Hello > > I am looking for a family that in 1952 lived at # 24 Old Chest Rd. Birkenhead. > Can anyone tell me if it still exists??? > > Thank you > > Heather > > > ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== > Search the archives of Birkenhead-L > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/BIRKENHEAD.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >
Hello Listers, Please copy this onto other sites that you are on I think that the various programs around, to use a pun, various Adobe viewers, I have 3, 4 & 5, they all are geared to various software. I see so many people saying that they have this that and the other and to will not open. If you read the programs clearly it will explain which viewer that you need to read a program. I do stand to be corrected by others who may be wiser that me Laurie
Hi John, Me again! I noticed your request for help on the Birkenhead List. I have found information from the Birkenhead Advertiser by asking the Wirral Archives staff. They appear to hold a good backlog of local papers and they produced a report for me from an edition in 1902. It's worth a try. Their email address is: archives@wirral-libraries.net They also have court records, Birkenhead Board of Guardians and workhouse records, hospital and school records, businesses and trades, societies, clubs etc. Also family and estate papers and census returns and solicitors' records. I went to the Archives in December and found them a very helpful lot. Best wishes, Hazel ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Farrall" <jfarrall@cox.rr.com> To: <BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 28 February 2002 02:04 Subject: [BKHD] Birkenhead Obituaries - 1950's > Hi All, > I am trying to gather information on two great aunts - Susan and Mary FARRALL. Susan was the oldest sibling in the family of eight and was born c. 1873 in Bebington (according to the 1881 census). No one knows when or where Mary was born. Since Susan's birth is unavailable in St Catherine's Index or any other index, I am left to seek out the death records or the obituaries for her and sister Mary. Susan corresponded with my parents, aunts, and uncles until 1954. She lived at 3, Barnard Road, Oxton - Birkenhead from the turn of the century until her death. Her last letter, dated 17 July 1954, lamented the fact that her younger sister Mary Farrall died of a heart attack on 12 January 1954. I am attempting to obtain a death certificate for her sister Mary based on that date. As for Susan, no one knows when she died, but it had to been after 1954. I have written the church that Susan attended - St. Saviour's - and received a "never-heard-of-her" letter in response. ! > This only leaves the possibility of obituaries being reported in local Birkenhead newspapers. Any ideas as to where I should search or write? I value your input and recommendations. > > Thanks and regards, > > John Farrall > Burke, Virginia > > ______________________________
Hello Heather I lived at 19 Old Chester Road from about 1970 until it was demolished to make a car park in 1979. 24 Old Chester Road, being on the opposite side of the road, was demolished some time earlier, before 1970, as that side of the road was always a piece of waste ground until it too was made into a car park at about the same time as the odd numbered side. 24 was probably opposite me, and close to Green Lane railway station. Kind regards Cath Mrs C E McGrath BA MA Chief Dogsbody of Boxer Rescue (UK) e-mail: boxerlady@quista.net www.boxer-rescue.co.uk Postal address: PO Box 127 Hoylake CH47 2AU UK Home: 0151 632 5887 - until 31/12/01 New home: 01352 714833 - from about 15/11/01 07789870117 - until the dogs eat yet another mobile phone! Best contact times: 9-12 most mornings 8-10 most evenings The dogs here rely on our dedicated care and your generosity! ----- Original Message ----- From: Heather Fromme <fromme@marshlake.polarcom.com> To: <BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 7:26 PM Subject: [BKHD] Old Chester Rd. > Hello > > I am looking for a family that in 1952 lived at # 24 Old Chest Rd. Birkenhead. > Can anyone tell me if it still exists??? > > Thank you > > Heather > > > ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== > Search the archives of Birkenhead-L > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/BIRKENHEAD.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >
Laurie, I am 60 years old and my father is 86. I am asking for information from the 1950's primarily to gain access to information that will unlock additional information from 1850 - 1880, primarily to learn more about my early great grandparents. Death information will, hopefully, allow me a glimpse into their birth data, which, for some reason or another, is currently obscured. For instance, I can find no record of my great grandfather's birth (circa 1852) or my great grandmothers official birth (exactly 6 June 1850), but the death certificate in 1906 for my great grandfather confirms that he was born in 1852. Sometimes you have to clarify the present to uncover the past. My inquiry into Smethwicks Safest Milk, in 1925, was to learn about my cousins potential aunts and uncles in the area of Smethwich/Birmingham, not to learn about milk - although the comments have been very enlightening. My great grandfather's worked on the British railway system in the 1800's. By learning more about that system, I hope to learn more about THEM. My aunt's death in the 1950's will, hopefully provide clues to her date and place of birth in 1873. Hope this helps. Regards, John Farrall Burke, Virginia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marilyn M Coster" <marilyn@mcoster.freeserve.co.uk> To: <BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 7:29 PM Subject: [BKHD] I do not Mind but do you > Hello Listers, > > I thought, may I am wrong list holders, that the sites were for Genealogy, ( maybe I misunderstand the word Genealogy) but I see people,asking about the 1930's, 40s. 50's 60's 70's 80's and even the 1990's trying to trace relatives. Should these people not better off with the Salvation Army instead of Glogging up these sites. we cannot look at records after 1901 in general terms in England- Other countries are earlier but never, or rarely later, so can someone not put something in the rules to stop this or advise people of the reason for the Web site. > > I have never objected to supplying data to people that I have that is prior to 1901, some have but they also agree that the data requested is Genealogical, and tell then were to go to get the data. That said it is wrong in my opinion to be requested of who lived where and who lived where for the aforementioned dates. > > Laurie. > > > > > ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== > Search the archives of Birkenhead-L > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/BIRKENHEAD.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >
Hello there , 25 Old Chester Road ... That part had been a row of Terrace Houses which were demolished early 2001. Regards Louise Birkenhead Wirral. _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com
Sorry Laurie, You must not know much about research, which is what genealogy is all about. Personally I asked about information about family members in the 1920's and 30's, was contacted by an unknown distant relative who sent me 25 years of research, including old photos, birth certificates, census, etc. As for your cut-off date of 1901, I have a copy of a 1920 U.S. Federal Census in my files - that I received through the lists, I might add. There are some of us, fairly new at this, who cannot begin our journey back in the 1800's. We have asked for assistance, and I have received more than I ever dreamed possible and met some relatives along the way. That's what we are searching for, our roots. I hope you don't take this personal, but I thought it might help you to a better understanding of why us amateur researchers use the lists the way we do. Bill McCrary
HI ALL, Is anybody researching the Glovers I am trying to find the death of MARY GLOVER who lived in NAPLES ROAD BIRKENHEAD. She was married to EDWARD GLOVER and I think she died about 1912 to 1920 , I have been searching in LEIGH as that is were she was born and her family came from. Her husband is buried in BIRKENHEAD but he is on his own (BILLY NO MATES). So if anyone could help it would be great Speak to you all soon CHRIS.
Hi Hazel, Thanks for the reply. I shall go through the Wirral Library and see what transpires. Do they have a telephone number available or would that be a useless excercise? Timing is everything in genealogy. John and Mary FARRALL were married in Tranmere in 1872 and Susan was the first child, Susan, is born in Bebington in 1873. For some strange reason, child number two is born in Merthyr Tydfil, Wales in 1875 - why? His occupation is listed as "stoker". The next child - Hannah - is born in Bebington in 1877. As for the WHITEHEAD's, John and Sarah were married in Great Broughton in 1837. John's father's name was Peter. Sarah's father's name was Robert. Regards, John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hazel Fuller" <hazel@fullerh.freeserve.co.uk> To: <BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 5:40 PM Subject: Re: [BKHD] Birkenhead Obituaries - 1950's > Hi John, > > Me again! I noticed your request for help on the Birkenhead List. > > I have found information from the Birkenhead Advertiser by asking the > Wirral Archives staff. They appear to hold a good backlog of local > papers and they produced a report for me from an edition in 1902. It's > worth a try. Their email address is: archives@wirral-libraries.net > > They also have court records, Birkenhead Board of Guardians and > workhouse records, hospital and school records, businesses and trades, > societies, clubs etc. Also family and estate papers and census returns > and solicitors' records. > > I went to the Archives in December and found them a very helpful lot. > > Best wishes, > > Hazel > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Farrall" <jfarrall@cox.rr.com> > To: <BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: 28 February 2002 02:04 > Subject: [BKHD] Birkenhead Obituaries - 1950's > > > > Hi All, > > I am trying to gather information on two great aunts - Susan and > Mary FARRALL. Susan was the oldest sibling in the family of eight and > was born c. 1873 in Bebington (according to the 1881 census). No one > knows when or where Mary was born. Since Susan's birth is unavailable > in St Catherine's Index or any other index, I am left to seek out the > death records or the obituaries for her and sister Mary. Susan > corresponded with my parents, aunts, and uncles until 1954. She lived > at 3, Barnard Road, Oxton - Birkenhead from the turn of the century > until her death. Her last letter, dated 17 July 1954, lamented the fact > that her younger sister Mary Farrall died of a heart attack on 12 > January 1954. I am attempting to obtain a death certificate for her > sister Mary based on that date. As for Susan, no one knows when she > died, but it had to been after 1954. I have written the church that > Susan attended - St. Saviour's - and received a "never-heard-of-her" > letter in response. ! > > This only leaves the possibility of obituaries being reported in > local Birkenhead newspapers. Any ideas as to where I should search or > write? I value your input and recommendations. > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > John Farrall > > Burke, Virginia > > > > ______________________________ > > > ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== > Search the archives of Birkenhead-L > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/BIRKENHEAD.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >
Hi Lorraine The only other family I knew in Tranmere Birkenhead with the Kewley name lived in Fountain Street off Derby Road Higher Tranmere. The only one I can remember was Frank who I guess would be around sixty five years old now. My father came from the I.O.M. around the early 1930's . Kewley is a Manx name. My brother and I were born in Mill Street off Derby Road Tranmere. Dot