How inconsiderate! Wish the archives ladies had mentioned that! At least it explains why there is no trace! Thanks Babs Just a thought to bear in mind the area mentioned was razed to the ground in the Blitz of 1941 Bob Tennant

I do have to come in here and say that the Anchor Inn and the Irby Mill Inn are two different places, some miles apart. Irby Mill Inn is actually nearer to Frankby than Irby Bob Tennant----- Original Message ----- From: "Lavendersblue" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [BKHD-Wirral] Roll Call. WHARTON,YOUDS,CHATTERTON,WILKINSON,SMITH,DWERRYHOUSE,PEACOCK,KENYON,COGHLAN, POVALL,BARLOW. > Hi John, > Just trying to get my barings. This must be on the corner of Irby Road and > Thingwall Road, opposite Irby Hall? > > Helen > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Oliver" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 6:29 PM > Subject: Re: [BKHD-Wirral] Roll Call. > WHARTON,YOUDS,CHATTERTON,WILKINSON,SMITH,DWERRYHOUSE,PEACOCK,KENYON,COGHLAN, POVALL,BARLOW. > > > > Hello Helen, > > I think you're talking about Irby Mill Inn, > > it used to be a mill a long time ago, then it was Lumsden's Cafe, just > > before and after the War. It was converted to an Inn (tavern) in the > > 1980s(approx). Regards John Oliver > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "barbjack" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 1:37 AM > > Subject: Re: [BKHD-Wirral] Roll Call. > > WHARTON,YOUDS,CHATTERTON,WILKINSON,SMITH,DWERRYHOUSE,PEACOCK,KENYON,COGHLAN, > > POVALL,BARLOW. > > > > > >> Dear Helen. It was a tavern which was converted from the old farmhouse > > and > >> Mill, I know it was at Irby, I will have to ask my sister who lives at > >> Upton, her husband always took us there on a Wednesday night so that he > >> could have his glasses of beer, and she would have 2 whiskys. It was a > >> ritual, they did it every Wednesday night., I was staying with them for > > a > >> while. My sister is Joan and her husband was Hugh. Graham. Cheers. > > Barbara, > >> New Zealand. > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Lavendersblue" <[email protected]> > >> To: <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 8:44 AM > >> Subject: Re: [BKHD-Wirral] Roll Call. > >> > > WHARTON,YOUDS,CHATTERTON,WILKINSON,SMITH,DWERRYHOUSE,PEACOCK,KENYON,COGHLAN, > >> POVALL,BARLOW. > >> > >> > >> > Barbara, is this the Anchor pub you're talking about on Irby Road? When > > I > >> > lived over there there was a Youds family living on the opposite side > >> > of > >> the > >> > pub and a bit further down. > >> > Helen > >> > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: "barbjack" <[email protected]> > >> > To: <[email protected]> > >> > Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 8:12 PM > >> > Subject: Re: [BKHD-Wirral] Roll Call. > >> > > >> > > WHARTON,YOUDS,CHATTERTON,WILKINSON,SMITH,DWERRYHOUSE,PEACOCK,KENYON,COGHLAN, > >> POVALL,BARLOW. > >> > > >> > > >> > > Dear Gordon. Well you have done your homework, Good on you. In my > >> > > wanderings, looking for connections, I have come to the conclusion > > that > >> > > our > >> > > origins came from Irby, because the Mill (which is now a public > >> > > house) > >> > > seems > >> > > to be the place where they have been living at one time. (I have > >> actually > >> > > had a sherry in what would have been the kitchen ) I did not know at > > the > >> > > time the significance . I am so grateful for any snippit of > > information, > >> > > My > >> > > grandma Youds as we call Catherine who married John Wilkinson the > >> younger, > >> > > was a Quaker she was born in Bidston, but John Wilkinson was born in > >> > > Warrington, his father was Joseph, but I don't think Joseph was from > >> > > Warrington. Catherine and John had 10 children, 9 were sons, many > >> > > were > >> > > killed in the 1st world war, I never met them, but I did meet Jack > >> > > and > >> Jo, > >> > > so they must have had children, you are spread all over the Wirral, > > one > >> > > would be a butcher, some went to sea, my grandfather followed in the > >> > > footsteps of his father, he was a boilermaker. John Wilkinson played > > the > >> > > violin, and played for local hops, and I suspect was in the orchestra > >> for > >> > > the operas. Anyway, thanks for communicating , perhaps we will > >> eventually > >> > > find connections, it is good, I think I have sparked a flood of info > > for > >> > > others on the list. That much be good. Regards, Barbara., New > > Zealand. > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > > From: "gordon evans" <[email protected]> > >> > > To: <[email protected]> > >> > > Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 4:03 AM > >> > > Subject: Re: [BKHD-Wirral] Roll Call. > >> > > > >> > > WHARTON,YOUDS,CHATTERTON,WILKINSON,SMITH,DWERRYHOUSE,PEACOCK,KENYON,COGHLAN, > >> > > POVALL,BARLOW. > >> > > > >> > > > >> > >> Hi Barbara > >> > >> > >> > >> When I said I had ALL the names in your list I meant all the one's I > >> > >> could > >> > >> see in the subject line viz WHARTON, YOUDS, CHATTERTON and > >> > >> WILKINSON. > > I > >> > >> didn't appreciate that there were another seven names off the edge > >> > >> of > >> the > >> > >> page! > >> > >> As it happens I do also have PEACOCK's, SMITH's, POVALL's and > > BARLOW's, > >> > > but > >> > >> no KENYON's, DWERRYHOUSE's or COGHLAN's I'm afraid. > >> > >> My WILKINSON's are mostly from Saughall Massey & > >> > >> Upton-in-Overchurch, > >> > >> whereas your great-grandfather John WILKINSON appears to be from > >> > > Warrington. > >> > >> My YOUD's are from Irby, Thurstaston and Hoose whereas yours are > >> > >> from > >> > >> Bidston. > >> > >> I have a Frances WHARTON (b1809 Bidston) who married Joseph SHERLOCK > > in > >> > > 1829 > >> > >> but her parents were James and Elizabeth. > >> > >> As Ann Nazari has pointed out, there will be many North Wirral > > listers > >> > >> who > >> > >> can > >> > >> identify with your names - it's just a question of finding the right > >> > >> ones! > >> > >> Good luck, anyway. > >> > >> Gordon > >> > >> > >> > >> >Dear Gordon. My Kenyon is John, in 1789 his daughter Alice > >> > >> > >married > >> > >> >John > >> > >> >Dwerryhouse, at Childwall, Stanley Youds married Mary Chatterton, > >> >they > >> > > had > >> > >> >my gt grandmother Catherine Youds who married John Wilkinson, > >> >Catherine > >> > >> was > >> > >> >born in Bidston in 1833, married John in 1858, their son my > >> >grandfather > >> > >> was > >> > >> >Samuel Wilkinson born 1876 in Birkenhead married my grandmother > >> >Harriet > >> > >> >Dwerryhouse in I think 1899, my mother Harriet Wilkinson married > >> >Thomas > >> > >> >Jackson Smith at St Anne , Stanley, Liverpool in April 1931, I was > >> >born > >> > > in > >> > >> >1933. that is my grandfathers line, my grandmother Harriets mother > >> >was > >> > >> Eliza > >> > >> >Jane Peacock, she married John Dwerryhouse in 1873 December , at > >> > >> > >St > >> > >> >Nicholas, Liverpool landing stage. her father was William Peacock > >>and > >> I > >> > >> >think not proven yet, that William may have married Catherine > >>Coghlan > >> > > 1848 > >> > >> >at Cork, Ireland. Povall and Barlow are intermarried with the Youds > >> >and > >> > >> >Wilkinson. I know that are but cannot at this stage find the dates, > >> > >>Barlow > >> > >> >was Catherine Youds (Wilkinson) sister in law who lived with her > >> > >> >for > > a > >> > >> >time > >> > >> >in Birkenhead. Catherine Wilkinson new Youds had a brother 2 years > >> > >>younger > >> > >> >than her named Thomas. The Youds lived at Bidston, and I am told > >>that > >> > >> >we > >> > >> are > >> > >> >related to Robert Youds who had the flour Mill on Bidston Hill. Any > >> > >> >connections that you can see ? Cheers, Barbara <New Zealand.Oh! > >> > >> > >I > >> > > forgot > >> > >> >Wharton, I think he was Thomas, his daughter married William >Youds > > in > >> > >> 1700s. > >> > >> >Somewhere there is a connection with the Royal family, not sure > >>who, > >> > >> >but > >> > >> it > >> > >> >was all hushed up and we were told as children we were not allowed > >>to > >> > > tell > >> > >> >anyone, as Queen Victoria was a cousin Cheers. Barbara. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== > >> > >> Our list Web site with links useful for Wirral genealogy > >> > >> > >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/BIRKENHEAD-WIRRAL.html > >> > >> > >> > >> ============================== > >> > >> Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > >> > >> Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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Thanks for that Bob - at least I now know that there was ONE Little there!!I shall keep up the search! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Tennant" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 12:10 PM Subject: Re: [BKHD-Wirral] roll call LITTLE/HASTHORPE/possibly McARDELL > I knew a Frank Little of Dingle Road Tranmere in about 1978/9. He was in is > early 70's but was still working as a Taxi driver. He told me he had lied > about his age many years previous to get into the army? and was unable to > retire until reaching 65 on paper! Just a thought if you come up against a > blank wall. > Bob Tennant > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "brenda.davison" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 9:45 PM > Subject: [BKHD-Wirral] roll call LITTLE/HASTHORPE/possibly McARDELL > > > > Hello list, > > I am still looking for descendants of my grandfather's brother and sister > (born Grimsby Lincs) who both married and moved to Birkenhead (or possibly > Fleetwood). > > My elderly aunt tells me that they both married -Thomas Henry Little to > Florence Green 1916 and Florence Little to George Hasthorpe 1911. > > I understand that Thomas Henry had ''some sons'' who may be almost the > only ones to carry on the family name LITTLE. > > I have been looking at my grandfather's mother's family (McARDELL)and > think that possibly some of her siblings were at that time in Birkenhead, > which may account for why Thomas and Florence went there. > > Any contact with these names would be welcome. > > Brenda in Suffolk > > > > > > ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== > > Our list Web site with links useful for Wirral genealogy > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/BIRKENHEAD-WIRRAL.html > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== > Our list Web site with links useful for Wirral genealogy > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/BIRKENHEAD-WIRRAL.html > > ============================== > You can manage your RootsWeb-Review subscription from > http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ > >

I knew a Frank Little of Dingle Road Tranmere in about 1978/9. He was in is early 70's but was still working as a Taxi driver. He told me he had lied about his age many years previous to get into the army? and was unable to retire until reaching 65 on paper! Just a thought if you come up against a blank wall. Bob Tennant ----- Original Message ----- From: "brenda.davison" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 9:45 PM Subject: [BKHD-Wirral] roll call LITTLE/HASTHORPE/possibly McARDELL > Hello list, > I am still looking for descendants of my grandfather's brother and sister (born Grimsby Lincs) who both married and moved to Birkenhead (or possibly Fleetwood). > My elderly aunt tells me that they both married -Thomas Henry Little to Florence Green 1916 and Florence Little to George Hasthorpe 1911. > I understand that Thomas Henry had ''some sons'' who may be almost the only ones to carry on the family name LITTLE. > I have been looking at my grandfather's mother's family (McARDELL)and think that possibly some of her siblings were at that time in Birkenhead, which may account for why Thomas and Florence went there. > Any contact with these names would be welcome. > Brenda in Suffolk > > > ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== > Our list Web site with links useful for Wirral genealogy > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/BIRKENHEAD-WIRRAL.html > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Just a thought to bear in mind the area mentioned was razed to the ground in the Blitz of 1941 Bob Tennant ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Greenly" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [BKHD-Wirral] Roll Call - Youds > > Barbara wrote: (Snipped) > > <I would also love it if anyone knows anything about a bakery that might have > been at 434 Borough Road. There is just grass there now.> > > > > > In 1915 shown as a bakery owned by McLeod Bros who were also at 71 Price St. One of the owners could be Percy McLeod at 13 Camden St. > > HTH > > Whereabouts was 434 Borough Rd, say in relation to where the Library is now? > > Dave > > > > > --------------------------------- > ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! > > > ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== > Our list Web site with links useful for Wirral genealogy > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/BIRKENHEAD-WIRRAL.html > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Hi George, Births at Haslington. No.108,23 July 1815,Fanny illigitimate d/o Acton Bostock and Hannah Denoril,minister J.S.Cattlow. No.285,24 Sept.1820,James s/o Acton & Mary Bostock Labourer,minister R.L.Salmon No.286,24 Sept.1820,Sarah,d/o Acton & Mary Bostock Labourer,minister R.L.Salmon No.287,24 Sept.1820,Francis d/o Acton & Mary Bostock,Labourer,minister R.L.Salmon No.403,9Nov 1823,Joh s/o Acton & Mary Bostock Labourer,minister R.L.Salmon No.541,9 Oct 1828,Mary d/o Acton & Mary Bostock Labourer,minister Frederick Ford No.542,9 Oct 1828,Ann d/o Acton & Mary Bostock Labourer,minister Frederick Ford No.741,27 Dec.1835,Joseph s/o Acton & Mary Bostock,Labourer,Curate R.D. Hile No.778,1Jan.1837,Elizabeth d/o Acton & Mary Bostock Labourer,minister R.D.Hile. DEATHS. No.733,1 Sept.1864,Mary Bostock,Haslington,74 yrs. minister C.White. No.778,7 Feb. 1867,Acton Bostock,Haslington,80yrs minister C.N.Dalton. Bertram Merrill Marriage Index 14 August 1815 St.Bertoline,Barthomley Acton Bostock Married Mary Cook. I have not Checked the Marriage at Chester Records Office yet. I have not heard from Rob Platt. Regards Patricia ----- Original Message ----- From: "GEORGE HIGHTON" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [BKHD-Wirral] Roll Call Highton Barlow Pearce Price Gillam Platt > Hi Pat yes please Mary Bostock b.1-12-1827 thats all I have on Her it will > be nice to flesh out the Bostocks Cheers George > > Pats Mail <[email protected]> wrote:Dear George, > I have eight Bostock births at Haslington if you would like them.One of > them > is Mary wife of William Platt. > Patricia. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "GEORGE HIGHTON" > To: > Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 4:27 PM > Subject: [BKHD-Wirral] Roll Call Highton Barlow Pearce Price Gillam Platt > > >> Highton or Huyton -------mainly Lancashire and Liverpool >> Barlow------------------------Liverpool >> Pearce----------------------Lpool, B'head,Sandbach,Wiltshire >> Price ------------------------Lpool, Lancashire >> Whiteley--------------------Lpool >> Doherty or Docherty----Prescot >> Wood-------------------------Lpool >> Busby------------------------Lpool >> Ormrod, Omerod----------Anywhere >> Shaw -------------------------Cheshire >> Gillam------------------------------" >> Platt--------------------------------" >> Williams--------------------------" >> Hardy------------------------------" >> Jones------------------------------" >> Roberts--------------------------" >> Griffiths--------------------------" >> Bostock------------------------" >> Mcmanas---------------------" >> Truman------------------------" >> Betterly------------------------" >> Davies------------------------" >> Hope S K S can help Cheers George >> >> >> >> Cheers George >> >> --------------------------------- >> ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! >> >> >> ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== >> Our list Web site with links useful for Wirral genealogy >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/BIRKENHEAD-WIRRAL.html >> >> ============================== >> Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >> Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >> > > > ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== > Our list Web site with links useful for Wirral genealogy > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/BIRKENHEAD-WIRRAL.html > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > Cheers George > > --------------------------------- > ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! > > > ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== > Our list Web site with links useful for Wirral genealogy > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/BIRKENHEAD-WIRRAL.html > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

I am trying to reasearch the follow people:- Smith, New Brighton Clowes, New Brighton Okell, Liscard & St Helens Mills, Liscard I started about a year ago then had a lapse and am starting again!! Many thanks Vicky ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Tennant <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [BKHD-Wirral] ADMIN Roll Call, COX > This is far out but as I know it, so I pass it on to you for your > reference. > I have in my house a pocket watch and photograph of a Gentleman known only > to me as Mr Cox. He was a sea captain and lived in a very large house in > Bedford Road Rock Ferry Birkenhead. This house became a Baptist Church with > a hall built on for the worshipping area pre WWII. The house part was > demolish in the late 1960's or early 1970's and new houses now stand there > but the hall was taken over as a workshop/warehouse and although re-clad > with new roof and sides still stands to-day. Capt. Cox was looked up to by > my father, who I suspect ran errands for him and he influenced my dad to > join the Royal Navy at the age of 14 years he was still employed as a > civilian employee when he died in 1973. My dad was born in 1911, so the > seagoing member of the Cox family you seek may just be the old man my dad > befriended. Sorry if I have rambled on. > Bob Tennant > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ray jones" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 2:06 PM > Subject: Re: [BKHD-Wirral] ADMIN Roll Call, COX > > > > I am researching the COX Family of Birkenhead.I have researched > > parents,William and Mary COX but son,Thomas and his wife Mary COX are > > proving difficult.Both families were living in Birkenhead in 1841. > > I am trying to find the marriage of Thomas and Mary COX in Cheshire or > > Liverpool circa 1822 and the whereabouts of Thomas COX in the 1851 > > Census.There is a Thomas COX on the Bebington Workhouse in 1851 but he was > > born in Liverpool and my Thomas COX was born in Cheshire.I suspect that my > > Thomas COX may have been at sea in 1851 or living in Liverpool. > > Any help appreciated. > > Ray.Jones,Ontario > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 6:27 AM > > Subject: [BKHD-Wirral] ADMIN Roll Call > > > > > > > I would just like to welcome new subscribers to this list and also to > > thank > > > all of the subscribers and posters. This list has evolved into a great > > > resource with a good spirit of helpfulness and friendly co-operation. > > > > > > It would be nice once more for us to know exactly what names and lines > are > > > being researched in the Birkenhead Wirral area from our subscribers so > > that new > > > connections can be made and any lurkers can join in and take part in > this > > > community. > > > > > > Any listers who object to roll calls and the extra mail these posts > > generate > > > into their mail box is welcome to unsubscribe and rejoin at a later > date > > > once the roll call has taken place. Please do not complain on list > > > > > > When posting a 'Roll Call' message please put Roll Call and the surnames > > you > > > are researching in the subject line and the dates and other information > > > about your ancestors in the body of the message. > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > > > > Caryl Williams > > > List Admin > > > BIRKENHEAD-L > > > ENG-MERSEYSIDE-L > > > UK-NEWS-EXTRACTS-L > > > > > > > > > ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== > > > Our list Web site with links useful for Wirral genealogy > > > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/BIRKENHEAD-WIRRAL.html > > > > > > ============================== > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== > > Our list Web site with links useful for Wirral genealogy > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/BIRKENHEAD-WIRRAL.html > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== > Our list Web site with links useful for Wirral genealogy > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/BIRKENHEAD-WIRRAL.html > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

This is far out but as I know it, so I pass it on to you for your reference. I have in my house a pocket watch and photograph of a Gentleman known only to me as Mr Cox. He was a sea captain and lived in a very large house in Bedford Road Rock Ferry Birkenhead. This house became a Baptist Church with a hall built on for the worshipping area pre WWII. The house part was demolish in the late 1960's or early 1970's and new houses now stand there but the hall was taken over as a workshop/warehouse and although re-clad with new roof and sides still stands to-day. Capt. Cox was looked up to by my father, who I suspect ran errands for him and he influenced my dad to join the Royal Navy at the age of 14 years he was still employed as a civilian employee when he died in 1973. My dad was born in 1911, so the seagoing member of the Cox family you seek may just be the old man my dad befriended. Sorry if I have rambled on. Bob Tennant ----- Original Message ----- From: "ray jones" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 2:06 PM Subject: Re: [BKHD-Wirral] ADMIN Roll Call, COX > I am researching the COX Family of Birkenhead.I have researched > parents,William and Mary COX but son,Thomas and his wife Mary COX are > proving difficult.Both families were living in Birkenhead in 1841. > I am trying to find the marriage of Thomas and Mary COX in Cheshire or > Liverpool circa 1822 and the whereabouts of Thomas COX in the 1851 > Census.There is a Thomas COX on the Bebington Workhouse in 1851 but he was > born in Liverpool and my Thomas COX was born in Cheshire.I suspect that my > Thomas COX may have been at sea in 1851 or living in Liverpool. > Any help appreciated. > Ray.Jones,Ontario > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 6:27 AM > Subject: [BKHD-Wirral] ADMIN Roll Call > > > > I would just like to welcome new subscribers to this list and also to > thank > > all of the subscribers and posters. This list has evolved into a great > > resource with a good spirit of helpfulness and friendly co-operation. > > > > It would be nice once more for us to know exactly what names and lines are > > being researched in the Birkenhead Wirral area from our subscribers so > that new > > connections can be made and any lurkers can join in and take part in this > > community. > > > > Any listers who object to roll calls and the extra mail these posts > generate > > into their mail box is welcome to unsubscribe and rejoin at a later date > > once the roll call has taken place. Please do not complain on list > > > > When posting a 'Roll Call' message please put Roll Call and the surnames > you > > are researching in the subject line and the dates and other information > > about your ancestors in the body of the message. > > > > Best Wishes > > > > Caryl Williams > > List Admin > > BIRKENHEAD-L > > ENG-MERSEYSIDE-L > > UK-NEWS-EXTRACTS-L > > > > > > ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== > > Our list Web site with links useful for Wirral genealogy > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/BIRKENHEAD-WIRRAL.html > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== > Our list Web site with links useful for Wirral genealogy > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/BIRKENHEAD-WIRRAL.html > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

DIXON LEAY OXTON WALTON COUPLAND GRIFFITH CLEMENTS ROBERTS EASTMAN BRADBURY I would like to trace the descendents of WILLIAM HENRY DIXON and AGNES JANE LEAY. As well, I am interested in OXTON female line. This is because it is through this line that there is a mitochondrial mutation and I am interested in finding out the incidence of the symptoms in other descendants. I know that MARY OXTON appears to have died as a result of this mutation. I would love to know who her mother was, so any experts on the OXTON family who can help - would love to hear from you. Below is a synopsis of the family line Elisabeth DIXON, George 1787 (Broughton-in-Furness, Cumbria; Birkenhead) Joiner married COUPLAND, Margaretta 1781 (Millom, Cumbria; Birkenhead) DIXON, George 1804-1891 (Broughton-in-Furness, Birkenhead) Joiner married BULLOCK Ellen 1814 - 1875 (Wigan, Birkenhead) DIXON, William Henry 1854 - 1929 (Birkenhead) Joiner, Mariner married LEAY, Agnes Jane 1850 - 1905 (St Helens, Tranmere, Birkenhead) Children: * ELIZABETH ELLEN (1877) - married 5.8.1900 Liscard McDONALD, William 1864 widower Print compositor * MARY AGNES (1879 - 1905) (Birkenhead) * LOUISA MARY (1881-) (Birkenhead) married GRIFFITH Evan child: GRIFFITH Agnes married CLEMENTS Frank Evan * ALBERT EDWARD 1883 shipping agent (Birkenhead, Fiji) married THOMAS, Ethel 1890 (Fiji) * ISABELLA ANNE 1885 (Birkenhead) * EMILY BEATRICE 1887 (Birkenhead) * RUBINA JESSIE 1888 - 1977 (Birkenhead, Australia) married DREVER, William (Orkney, Australia) LEAY Peter 1743 - 1782 (Liverpool, Burton) WILSON Ann 1744 - 1816 (Burton) LEAY Peter 1779 - 1858 (Backford, Rock Ferry) WALTON Ellen 1785 -1855 (Great Mollington, Rock Ferry) LEAY William 1827 - 1857 (Rock Ferry, Birkenhead) OXTON Mary 1825 -1886 (Tranmere, Birkenhead) OXTON Richard (Tranmere) Ellen? -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 8:27 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [BKHD-Wirral] ADMIN Roll Call I would just like to welcome new subscribers to this list and also to thank all of the subscribers and posters. This list has evolved into a great resource with a good spirit of helpfulness and friendly co-operation. It would be nice once more for us to know exactly what names and lines are being researched in the Birkenhead Wirral area from our subscribers so that new connections can be made and any lurkers can join in and take part in this community. Any listers who object to roll calls and the extra mail these posts generate into their mail box is welcome to unsubscribe and rejoin at a later date once the roll call has taken place. Please do not complain on list When posting a 'Roll Call' message please put Roll Call and the surnames you are researching in the subject line and the dates and other information about your ancestors in the body of the message. Best Wishes Caryl Williams List Admin BIRKENHEAD-L ENG-MERSEYSIDE-L UK-NEWS-EXTRACTS-L ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== Our list Web site with links useful for Wirral genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/BIRKENHEAD-WIRRAL.htm l ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Thanks very much for the information. That does add another generation to my information. I presume the parish was St Mary's. ----- Original Message ----- From: "gordon evans" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 3:33 PM Subject: Re: [BKHD-Wirral] roll call willett espley and rimmer > Hi Fred > > Upton-in-Overchurch PR's have the baptism on 21 December 1733 of an Isabel, > illegitimate daughter of Ann RYMMER, widow. > John and Isabel HOUGHLAND had a daughter Anne, baptised in West Kirby St > Bridget on 24 June 1761. > Regards > Gordon Evans > > > >I have a Isabel Rimmer- who married Richard Houghland in 1754 in >West > Kirby. > >If you happen to have birth, death, or parent information, it would be > >most > >appreciated. > >Fred Waring > > > > ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== > Our list Web site with links useful for Wirral genealogy > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/BIRKENHEAD-WIRRAL.html > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

In a message dated 19/10/2004 14:45:11 GMT Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Roll Call- Dalziel,Makin.Corlett,Beswick,McClelland,McClennan and other variants ,McGuiness, McGinnis, Redhead I have most info from censuses etc Thanks Dot Who are your McClellands? My husband's family are McClellands, mostly from Liverpool. Maybe we connect somehow. Sue

In a recent post, Elisabeth Wegener indicated interest in the following families: >DIXON >LEAY >OXTON >WALTON >COUPLAND >GRIFFITH >CLEMENTS >ROBERTS >EASTMAN >BRADBURY Elisabeth, may I ask about your EASTMAN connection? My greatgrandfather, Josiah EASTMAN (b 1822 in Portsea, Hampshire) managed a Cocoa Rooms establishment in Chester St, Birkenhead -- this from the 1881 census. His wife Susannah (nee BASSETT, m 1844 in Stepney, London) was dead by this date. Cocoa Rooms were part of an extensive temperance movement of the time. His daughter, Sarah Louisa EASTMAN (b 1848, Islington, London) married my greatgrandfather, Thomas BURTON, in 1869 in Liverpool. Josiah also had a daughter, Esther Ann, who was 17 in 1881 and living with her father. Another EASTMAN, William (b1852, London, and probably Josiah's son) also operated a Cocoa Rooms on Price St, Birkenhead. William's wife was named Hannah and, in 1881, they had one daughter named Louisa. Any connection possible? Dave Burton

Sorry Sue, all I know about James Austin came from the marriage cert of Alice Hannah to William Banner. Just his name and occupation. Margaret

Stan Sorry for the delay in replying My CARTER family came to Liverpool and then Wallasey after 1901 but before 1917, I don't know exactly when. They lived in Aigburth for a while and moved to the Wirral. My family Grandfather worked for Carters seeds but I haven't found a connection other than a common surname. My Uncles (all born 1908 or earlier) were nearly all Cunard or White Star Seafarers of various ranks, but I believe my Uncle who drove for the CO-OP was the driver of the first vehicle through the Mersey Tunnel ( the old bendy one) but I have no proof or evidence of that. I have numerous cousins on the Wirral and in Australia and Canada. I don't think we have any common ground yet. By the way I was born in Tranmere. Regards Alan Alan Sutton www.ownersinportugal.com -----Original Message----- From: Stan Neill [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 16 October 2004 10:25 To: [email protected] Subject: [BKHD-Wirral] Roll Call - CARTER My CARTER interests in Wirral are: John William b. 1861 Tranmere, Wirral Edward Henry b. 11/11/1862 " " Mary Elizabeth b. 1865 " " Joseph Thomas b. 1866 " " Emigrated to Australia abt 1898/1900 Andrew Richard b. 1869 " " Robert Sylvester b. 31/12/1870 " " Emigrated to USA abt 1898/1900 Rev Richard b. abt 1750 Neston Wirral John b. abt Feb 1780 " " Agnes b. abt April 1781 " " Betsy (Elizabeth) b. abt May 1782 " " Richard Wadeson b. abt Nov 1784 " " John b. abt 1815 " " Jane b. abt 1831 Scotland Richard b. 1851 Neston Wirral Fanny Heitmann b. 1853 " " Maud Agnes Garvan b. 1860 Birkenhead " Jane b. 1863 Seacombe " Edward Heathcote b. 1865 Birkenhead " Susan b. 1867 Tranmere " Samuel R b. 1869 " " Any information with regard to any of the above named CARTER's would be greatly appreciated Stan Neill ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== Our list Web site with links useful for Wirral genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/BIRKENHEAD-WIRRAL.htm l ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Helen I have early memories of the old lady (Mrs McCardle I think) yelling at the lorry drivers as they warmed up their lorries on a cold winters morning " I'll get the west Cheshire council onto you, Roebuck !!" Poor old dear they drove her to distraction. The quarry was quite deep but had an access off quarry road, but it must be quite something to build there. Mrs Millie was a dear old soul always ready to give me sweets when I was a boy and she sold me CHEWING GUM (which I wasn't allowed by dad !!) Also in our row of shops the Barbers (Seth Foster) The Greengrocers Mr ? (cant remember) The Chemist Mr Tunley The Newsagent Mr Stockdale The Electric Shop Mr Jones The Grocers Mr ? The Butchers The Chip Shop Charlie Firth The Pet Shop The Wool shop The Dairy (health food shop later which was a joke cause the guy that ran it looked so poorly) The carpenter Mr Ball And more I have probably forgotten Happy Days Alan Alan Sutton www.ownersinportugal.com -----Original Message----- From: Lavendersblue [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 18 October 2004 20:18 To: Alan Sutton Subject: Re: [BKHD-Wirral] Roll Call. WHARTON,YOUDS,CHATTERTON,WILKINSON,SMITH,DWERRYH... Fancy that! Yes, I remember your mum and dad's wine shop - not that I went in of course! I was always in Millie's sweet shop near the end of the block. You won't remember the time when the a car ended up in The Pantry; I made a good profit that day, when I bet everyone that there was a car in the pantry! Well there was! I think my mum threw a party the day Roebucks was finally flattened. We lived on Irby road, at the junction of Quarry Road East, a beautiful walk, especially after the snow had fallen. I believe the old quarry was built on several years ago. I can't imagine how they did that! I think it was 1984 when I moved over to Birkenhead - my independence! Helen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Sutton" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; "'Lavendersblue'" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 6:53 PM Subject: RE: [BKHD-Wirral] Roll Call. WHARTON,YOUDS,CHATTERTON,WILKINSON,SMITH,DWERRYH... > Helen > > I imagine you were in Irby/Heswall later than me. My Mum & Dad had the > Pensby Wine Stores from 1959 to 1975 when we moved away after my Dad > retired early. This is close to the junction of Pensby Road and > Whitfield Lane. > > The Harvest Mouse was built on the old transport yard (Roebucks) after > we moved so I think you must have been there later. > > Regards > > Alan > > Alan Sutton > www.ownersinportugal.com > > >

Fred, sorry i cant help i have a brick wall 1800 for william rimmer. Keith in Malta. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred Waring" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 8:30 PM Subject: Re: [BKHD-Wirral] roll call willett espley and rimmer >I have a Isabel Rimmer- who married Richard Houghland in 1754 in West >Kirby. If you happen to have birth, death, or parent information, it would >be most appreciated. > > Fred Waring > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "keith hammond" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 6:59 AM > Subject: [BKHD-Wirral] roll call willett espley and rimmer > > >> Hi, >> i am researching the names WILLETT 1890 to date BIRKENHEAD. >> >> ESPLEY 1870 TO DATE BIRKENHEAD AREA >> >> RIMMER OF BIDSTON HALL 1820S >> >> Thanks. >> Keith in Malta. >> >> >> ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== >> Our list Web site with links useful for Wirral genealogy >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/BIRKENHEAD-WIRRAL.html >> >> ============================== >> Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >> Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >> > > > ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== > Our list Web site with links useful for Wirral genealogy > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/BIRKENHEAD-WIRRAL.html > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

That`s rather odd isn`t it George. Maybe it was Ann`s second marriage. Going by their surnames they may have originated in Wales. I`ll certainly keep your contribution and if I can make a connection I`ll let you know. Cassandra ----- Original Message ----- From: "GEORGE HIGHTON" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 8:22 PM Subject: Re: [BKHD-Wirral] roll call > Hi can I but in I have an ANN JONES m. DAVID WILLIAMS in 1867 she gave as > her father HUGH ROBERTS can anyone explain George > > Sandra Casson <[email protected]> wrote:Hello, Alice. > > I have an Ellen Jones married to George Ely. In 1864 they were living at > Princes Place, Tranmere. Does this name ring any bells with you? > I`m just about to gather my thoughts together and post my interests on > theBirkenhead rootsweb. > Regards > Cassandra > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 6:21 PM > Subject: [BKHD-Wirral] roll call > > >> looking for , jones birkenhead liverpool >> henshaw birkenhead and liverpool >> mckay birkenhead and ireland >> farrell birkenhead / ireland >> >> >> ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== >> Our list Web site with links useful for Wirral genealogy >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/BIRKENHEAD-WIRRAL.html >> >> ============================== >> Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >> Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >> >> >> > > > > ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== > Our list Web site with links useful for Wirral genealogy > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/BIRKENHEAD-WIRRAL.html > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > Cheers George > > --------------------------------- > ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! > > > ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== > Our list Web site with links useful for Wirral genealogy > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/BIRKENHEAD-WIRRAL.html > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > >

>John and Isabel HOUGHLAND had a daughter Anne..... Should have read RICHARD and Isabel of course. Apologies. Gordon >Hi Fred >Upton-in-Overchurch PR's have the baptism on 21 December 1733 of >an >Isabel, >illegitimate daughter of Ann RYMMER, widow. >John and Isabel HOUGHLAND had a daughter Anne, baptised in >West Kirby St >Bridget on 24 June 1761. >Regards >Gordon Evans >I have a Isabel Rimmer- who married Richard Houghland in 1754 in >West >Kirby. >If you happen to have birth, death, or parent information, it would be >most >appreciated. >Fred Waring

Hello Barbara Here are your family on the 1901 census, I don't know if you already have it but if not you do now. 1901 Census 231 Brook Street, Birkenhead Samuel Wilkinson, Head, M, 24, Boiler Makers Assistant, Birkenhead Harriet Wilkinson, Wife, M, 24, Liverpool Thomas Wilkinson, Son, 5 mo, Birkenhead Regards Paul Dwerryhouse Hawarden, Flintshire, UK. --- All Dwerryhouse email is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.777 / Virus Database: 524 - Release Date: 14/10/2004

Hi Fred Upton-in-Overchurch PR's have the baptism on 21 December 1733 of an Isabel, illegitimate daughter of Ann RYMMER, widow. John and Isabel HOUGHLAND had a daughter Anne, baptised in West Kirby St Bridget on 24 June 1761. Regards Gordon Evans >I have a Isabel Rimmer- who married Richard Houghland in 1754 in >West Kirby. >If you happen to have birth, death, or parent information, it would be >most >appreciated. >Fred Waring